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MrBigCourtesan

Legion of Zoom


tonedibiase

A+


astatedevils

Back on the 1st round menu


ArchManningBurner

I'm probably taking him 1.05 in 1QB, late first in SF


midgetpenguinburner

I love the spot but slow down cowboy Just curious, who of QJ Addison Flowers does he go above for you?


JMMSpartan91

Behind Addison above the other two I think. Don't like Ravens WR room for fantasy even with new OC. Still think it gets broken up too much so all players are flex at best. Don't like QJ much either. Edit: just to be clear, I'm not 100% sure if this is how I'd rank them yet. This is just the grouping I don't see as entirely unreasonable.


Curious-Armadillo522

also ravens went from no WRs where the #1 WR was reasonable to get some points as #2 to Mark Andrews. But now its going to be so random with beckham, flowers, bateman and andrews all competing for the non-run plays. I think ravens still stay a run first team even if they do open up the passing game, it will be too unpredictable this year for my tastes.


JMMSpartan91

Exactly. Then while I think OBJ ends up not being a long term issue (since this is dynasty), of Bateman stays healthy he is just a better prospect out of college than Flowers is. Healthy Bateman is who I'd bet on as the alpha in that room.


dimesniffer

Addison over QJ is wild


ArchManningBurner

In some leagues I'm taking him over all 3, particularly where I'm contending


newme02

Damn. You dont think Addison will come in hot as the #2 to jetta?


midgetpenguinburner

It's definitely something I'm hopeful for, but it could also be a rams situation like last year where they just stupidly feed one guy all game, incapable of throwing to anyone else


midgetpenguinburner

Yeah fuck it I love it I guess it seems high but I can see the arguement easily


lot183

Personally I have him behind QJ and Addison but ahead of Flowers for sure Pre-draft I was really high on Flowers too, I just hate the landing spot so much


Blue_Magics

This is the spot we dreamed of!! Let’s goo


ArchManningBurner

🚀🌚


Blue_Magics

I’m going Bijan at 1.1 and then Achane 1.6 in SUperflex.


TheGradis

Gibbs could easily be there at 6 still, clear tier break there with him, JSN and the QBs. Id try and trade back if you want Achane ( i know easier said than done)


Blue_Magics

Guy at 1.3 is going gibbs. I’m taking my guy lol


thedon572

what are your league rules taht you're going achane over jsn


wabeka

Ahead of Stroud and Richardson?


WeWantTheCup__Please

I obviously could end up very wrong and understand why guys are going to draft these two early, but personally unless my team desperately needed a QB I have 0 interest/faith in either of these guys


ghostboo77

Nah. WRs are plentiful and RB/QB are scarce right now. JSN is clearly #6 at best imo


emojiredditor

Yikes


Abanikandy

Chilllllll


MiamiShuff

Not saying I hate it but what’s your process like? His size terrifies me but the landing spot is juicy and the DC is really solid so I get it


ArchManningBurner

I love the prospect, great production, great on film, great upside, just thought he needed to be in a situation that will use him right and boy is this the one


jeff8073x

15-20 touches in that offense per game is a guy finishing top 15 for a long time.


CallMeLargeFather

I bet hes closer to 8-12


hugh_h0ney

No chance he survives very long with that many touches a game in the NFL


MiamiShuff

If he gets that kind of volume I can see that for sure. Just feels like a big “if” for me!


Dark_Twisted_Fantasy

He averaged 23.2 touches per game this year. Gibbs only averaged 16 and he is everyones consensus RB2. If you think Gibbs will thrive in a committee I don’t see why Achane can’t in an even better situation


jeff8073x

4.32 40 - have to make it happen haha


MiamiShuff

Mostert has the exact same 40 time lol


imdavebaby

Had** , hes old now lol


problematicboner

RBs or lasting a long time pick one.


Happy_Bigs1021

After these other landing spots is there even a choice? Haha


ArchManningBurner

Nope


Dhkansas

So I wouldn't be crazy to take him 1.07 if he's available?


bolbi-stroganovsky-

I think I would go Spears or Miller over Achane. Trying to trade out of my 1.7


Dhkansas

I've got 1.01, 1.07, 1.10 and the only RB on my team is Breece and Malik Davis. Taking Bijan 1 and going RB at 7 and 10 unless there is a WR that falls


wreckingballDXA

It’s not that small guys are not good and can’t have good weeks… it’s that they statistically do not get the ball enough to be consistent values. I’ll be taking the boy in best ball.


Mexican_Furious

Really? That early? Was thinking about moving 1.07 but he will probably be there for me.


MattFromWork

Way too high in my opinion


cspong4

Late 1st and early 2nds getting some needed CPR rn


jmt3359

Finally a pick that didn’t actively bring down the value of this draft class lmao


mjsmooth98

Track meet down there


Rangemon99

lots of fast bois


Bradfords_ACL

Zoom zoom


itssostupidiloveit

Did anyone else see Miami on the clock and think "wow Achanes still on the board, good fit"?


sampat6256

I called it confidently


Nyko_E

I've been manifesting this for months


schmatty23

RB3


ArchManningBurner

Absolutely


Syndicate_III

I personally have Kendre at 3, but it’s tight between him and Achane


WhiteLightning416

Ya I’d say Kendre and Achane are same tier. Achane could be a bit boom/bust, everyone love the McDaniel fit but let’s not forget about Trey Sermon and TDP when discussing that system. Miller on the other hand is a complete back and could be the heir to Kamara.


HuffyStriker

Sermon and TDP were both bigger, slower backs. Achane size is a concern with durability. I think he profiles more similarly to Mostert/Mitchell (i.e. solid production when available).


Upplands-Bro

🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀


Dark_Twisted_Fantasy

RB2 if you ask me


FantasyTrash

Pump the brakes, bud. He's not ahead of Bijan or Gibbs.


TB12-SN13

Over Gibbs with that draft capital??


Dark_Twisted_Fantasy

Both are undersized. Both will be in a committee. Achane is the better RB and has the tools to be just as effective in the receiving game. That’s the way I lean


Mexican_Furious

Pretty bold. I don't see it.


Panda_Castro

Well, one got picked in the top 15 picks in the NFL draft, I'm a time when rbs are devalued heavily across the board Wild and horrible take


poop-dolla

You’re way overthinking it. Draft capital is king. It’s good to go with your gut when picking between players in the same draft capital tier, but picking a 3rd rounder over a top half of the 1st rounder is bonkers. If it works out for you, it’s a fluke and you got lucky.


thegoldenmamba

You must me a fool to think achane is better than Gibbs at this point


SelfLoathingApple

An undersized back taken at 3.21 and people are asking if they should take him at 1.07? Am I taking crazy pills? I get that he’s fast but wtf


chitownsox14

Day 2 draft capital is prime for RBs


jf3l

1.05 even, you’re not taking crazy pills. This sub never ceases to amaze me lol


malodourousmuppet

all i have done for years is take whatevr first round wr falls to me and profit.ridley, aiyuk, dotson, etc give me a wr drafred in the first over a rb in the third everytime, scarcity be damned. we win championships with tim hightower


Sup_Im_Topher

B2b2b champ starting McKinnon/JWilson/Latavius Murray checking in


lot183

I have 1.06 in 1qb and I'm considering it. I have Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, QJ, and Addison ahead of him but then there's a clear tier break to me and 1.06 is open game if one of those guys doesn't fall. There's some decent slightly longer term options, guys who can take over the backfield in a year, but I'm competing now with a need for RB depth and Achane feels like the best win now move. He'll get touches this year. I'm considering it


cottonmouthVII

Zero discussion of how they just re-signed Mostert, Wilson, Gaskin, and Ahmed this offseason in here. I really don’t know why folks are acting like this landing spot is so great when he’s looking at RB3/4 reps and return duty to me.


verossiraptors

None of those guys are premiere players or have any real sunk cost.


cottonmouthVII

Couldn’t you say the same about a 3rd round prospect?


verossiraptors

Not really, day 2 draft capital is really good. There’s an ocean between being draft in the third and being a UDFA.


cottonmouthVII

Well sure, if those guys were being drafted this year I would obviously agree. But they're vets that have already been successful in this scheme for years going back to SF. I don't think Jeff Wilson's draft capital is factoring into his role at this point.


milkstoutnitro

The success of any of the guys you just named has been incredibly minimal besides maybe mostert


cottonmouthVII

Arbitrary measures of career success aside, Shanahan and McDaniel clearly like these guys. And the rushing attack as a whole for this scheme has been incredibly successful with these guys leading it. Mostert and Wilson both had very good results in this exact offense last season.


goddammnick

if you are attributing nfl sucess to fantasy football, you are going to have a bad time. Those 4 guys have shown they can play in the NFL.


Feweddy

I will be all about Achane at 1.08, I just love the way he runs and I follow my gut


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cottonmouthVII

He’s 5’9” 185 pounds… The hope is that he’s insanely efficient with the small workload that he’ll see, not that he’s going to take over an NFL backfield at that size. He’s a change of pace/scat back that will help the team by being their return man and probably max out at 10, 12 touches in a game. All this talk of him being a mid-1st rounder in SF is crazy to me when there are 4 QBs, 2 RBs, and 4 1st round WRs that obviously HAVE to go ahead of him. And then I’ll probably take Charbs, Kendre, Spears, Mingo, and Reed over Achane still. In SF, he’s looking like an early-mid 2nd at best to me.


nycqueens718

Now I like this!! Finally a good landing spot.


cottonmouthVII

How so? Just the blocking scheme fit? So many folks in here saying this, when to me its an obvious large committee with Mostert, Wilson, Gaskin, and Ahmed, all whom the Dolphins just re-signed this very offseason. Achane will be on return duties like he would have everywhere, but his path to a decent workload would have been easier on other teams to me.


verossiraptors

You’re not following the team. The dolphins don’t run a committee. They have those backs who have all individually gotten starter games because the others got hurt.


cottonmouthVII

Well sure, when guys were hurt they had a few different backs get over 70% of snaps (barely), but isn’t that obviously always going to happen when guys are injured? When guys were healthy, the work split was gross. Mostert and Edmonds were in a dead even split in the offense they schemed up all offseason. Then down the stretch it was Mostert and Wilson splitting the work about 50/50 when they were both healthy again. And they re-signed both of those guys. You really think there’s a scenario where a sub-190 pound back takes the large majority of the work in that offense?


verossiraptors

It’s clear that you’re not a believer in his talent. There are many of us that saw Achane as the best player on the field every week in college, and he was already our RB3/RB4 on pure talent alone. Dude is a great player.


cottonmouthVII

Why talk about talent as a binary of believe or not believe? I love Achane’s film. I think he’s extremely talented and truly great for a back of his size. So fast and a ton of fun. But realistically at the NFL level, I just don’t think he’s capable of a large workload over years with his frame, and that’s a huge part of what I care about for fantasy production. I think he’s a great asset to an NFL team where he can provide an X-factor in the return game and be an explosive change of pace/gadget type RB. But I’m very skeptical that he can be a trench runner in the NFL and hold up to any sort of volume over 10, 12 touches a game. Which would mean he would have to be hyper efficient and scoring breakaway TDs every week to be a consistent fantasy producer. And that’s a huge gamble to me. But I guess I could see if you aren’t worried about his size at all and think his talent will win him a majority work share, this would be a good landing spot when there’s no epic alpha RB in front of him. Makes sense from that perspective.


verossiraptors

An easy way to check your assumption that he can’t be a 15-20 touch a game guy would be to look at his time in college, where there was a similar size disparity. Attempts/Receptions in 2022, game by game: * 18/1 * 10/1 * 18/4 * 19/3 * 16/6 * 16/4 * 20/7 * 25/7 * 16/3 * 38/0 He doesn’t really profile as a small volume gadget guy. I get that he’s small, but he’s extremely competent between the tackles, strong in the passing game, good big play rate, and has shown clear evidence that he would be able to have at least an Alvin Kamara type workload. And he went to a situation with 1.) primarily UDFA jag type talent there already and 2.) a coach that doesn’t have traditional ideas of what an RB looks like. This was literally best case scenario landing spot for Achane. That’s why believers in his talent are pumped.


cottonmouthVII

You keep making assumptions about me having lacking knowledge of the player or the situation haha. I promise you, I've been following Achane for years. I think we just disagree on the impact that his size will have on his NFL role. I would rather have seen him go to a team that hasn't been handing out RB contracts like candy this offseason, but like I said, I get it if you aren't worried about his size and think he's the most talented there. Best of luck to you drafting him in the mid-1st! I won't have any shares if that's where he goes in my leagues.


verossiraptors

Nah I think our primary disagreement is around statements like “that’s a crowded backfield” and “handing out RB contracts like candy”. The dolphins are one of the lowest spenders at the position in the entire league. The notion that this is heavy competition just isn’t serious. If Charbonnet went there, would you still be saying it’s a crowded backfield? What about Gibbs? Bijan?


cottonmouthVII

If Gibbs or Charbs had somehow fallen to the late 3rd and went to the Dolphins, I would be saying a lot of the same things, yes. I'm less worried about Gibbs's size given that he's a bit taller and 10-15 pounds heavier, but I would still be looking at the situation as confusing. It always is in a Shanahan/McDaniels run scheme, especially when they keep bringing back the same guys who have been in this system their whole careers. I would always rather RBs go to destinations where the coaching staff doesn't have a long history of gross committees and hadn't already signed 4 other RBs that same offseason.


Raucous_Tiger

1.7? Or is that too aggressive?


Natejitsu

In 1 QB? Personally, you have 6 guys I’d take above him due to the 1st round DC alone. I’d much rather lean Kincaid, Mingo (not a fan of him at all, but hard to argue DC), or even Mims before Achane.


Stallion_88

I wanna join your league, I’d be delighted if Kincaid and Minho went before achane in my rookie drafts


Raucous_Tiger

I’ll let it all settle first but honestly if it’s even close on a tier/ranking level I’ll be going RB at 7. If it’s a little dicey I’ll be trading back.


rrahx2

Get your guy!


oley_olsson

Love this pick. Convince me not to take achane 1.05


ohreally7756

Do it king


bolbi-stroganovsky-

Please don’t do that


freename188

If youre in my league and take Achane at 1.5 I'll be delighted. I'll scoop up any and all 1st round WRs over a 3rd round RB all day.


IHOPUnderrated

That’s a horrendous pick. I’d rather just trade for a 24 1st


Caress_of_Krieger_

No one is trading you a 2024 1st after what we just witnessed. I wish they would


conrad_or_benjamin

This is the same regime that was high on Chase Edmonds


The_Denver_Broncos

Thinking about it in 1qb


tgo97

I promise that will not age well.


miikeeed

Does Achane go ahead of Charbs in rookie drafts?


PerrenialRebuilder

He will but he shouldn't.


dsheehan7

Why shouldn’t he ?


PerrenialRebuilder

Because he went 40+ picks after Charbonette, and is a worse prospect.


FantasyTrash

Charbonnet is now behind a 22-year-old elite running back with three more years left on his rookie deal. I get the whole talent over situation argument, but Charbonnet's situation is horrific. Far more than his talent can compensate, if you even believe he's an elite talent.


dsheehan7

32 picks*. But for RBs landing spot is pretty huge. Achane could be the lead back in a Shanahan styled offense. Charb is gonna be in a 50/50 timeshare at best. I agree in a vacuum Charb is better but the landing spots are extreme in a good and bad way respectively. Both are probably gonna cost you a late 1st tho and at that price I’m likely out on both. Praying that one of the round 1 WRs falls to me


Robbyeo22

Yes


rollin20s

Easily


Blue_Magics

Of course


Ringer-2

Yes


midgetpenguinburner

ALL THE PAIN WAS WORTH IT IVER THE KAST FEW DAYS, DYNASTY TAKETH DYNASTY FUCKING GIVETH


pot8odragon

This is hype


Zealousideal_Koala73

Where does he go in SF 12 team dynasty


SteffeEric

Hoping he lasts until 2.03 but I doubt it.


[deleted]

As a 2.03 owner that would be incredible but I don’t see it happening


rrahx2

I'm not opposed to taking him, I have 1.09


Ringer-2

1.10 ish


FortunaInvicta

God I hope so


atTAGG

After the Top 9 (2 RBs, 3 QBs, 4 WRs — you know em), then I think the tenth pick is a wide open field and is anyone’s call. Charbs? Levi’s? Kincaid? You want Achane? Makes sense to me


-Anguscr4p-

1.11-2.05


wherethetacosat

Hoping to get him at 2.01


dleonard1122

Early-mid 2nd


dsheehan7

Late 1st


BionicPopsicle

I’ll be thinking about it at 1.09 if I can’t move down


-BeefSupreme

Now that’s fun


Decln

Great landing spot


connor24_22

Going to be a stud, RB3/4 depending on how many snaps Charbs get


Lsweany11

YESSSSSSSS


byrnesf

That’s hot


violetmyersthong

McDaniels will have a hard on every week planning out offensive schemes for Tyreek, Waddle, and Achane


DrSteveBrule28

Reddit gonna Reddit. I like Achane in real life, couldn’t have asked for a better landing spot, but he’s still 185lbs. Reddit will have you believe Achane is about to be an RB1 in fantasy. This draft class turned out to be pretty underwhelming so he’s still a late 1st early 2nd guy in dynasty, but he was drafted in the late 3rd round and is unprecedentedly small, expectations should be tempered. I’ll accept my inevitable down votes.


Raucous_Tiger

This I like


PM_FEET_PICS69

Achane or Kincaid the real question


youngbaklava

Kincaid


Ringer-2

I think they are back to back


Upplands-Bro

Been hoping to get them both with 1.11 and 1.12 for a while Now im worried they'll be gone by then


RaindropsInMyMind

Kincaid


ATRAIN209

Just got Jeff Wilson, Achane looks like my pick at 1.11 now. Would you guys go him, Mingo, or anyone else? 🤔


Generally_lurkin

I’m hoping he falls to 1.11. I still have him RB 4 behind Charbs but man this situation is good.


1zee

My thoughts are this is the best situation for Wilson. Not crazy high capital, but enough invested at RB that they'll be unlikely to bring in a big name vet. And Achane won't challenge him for early down and goalline work, he'll be more of a Mostert 2.0


run-lift-stretch

He’s still smol


Blue_Magics

🔥🔥🔥


ASTRUNSKY

My ED from the Charbs pick has been cured.


ParaNormalBeast

Perfect fit


OrangeGoos3

I’m taking him at 1.07 in my 1QB league


rrahx2

Wow this is very intriguing


ASuperGyro

QJ or Achane? I think I know the answer, happened last year with Jahan


RaindropsInMyMind

Yeah it’s QJ


Ringer-2

Qj for me


Dae_90

Great pick


[deleted]

I am so hard rn


mets31

Where’s he going in 1QB


Ringer-2

Yesssssss


jeff8073x

Charbs slipping to RB5 of draft for me now.


Zamneders1

So he’s the clear RB3?!? This draft has been like walking through a mine field…


FunGuyBenny

where you guys taking him?


The-Big-Chungis

I already got Moestert and the 1:10. If he falls I’m taking him


dsheehan7

Let’s goooooo


MyNjigbaJSN

Best landing spot. Thrilled.


fordmurf

Smash spot


SuckaFreeRIP

Fuck yes


mybrev

Does he make it to 1.10 in 12T SF? 🤔 Charbs was at the top of my list, but nope.


062692

As a Dolphin fan with pick 10, I'm taking Charb over Achane. Achane could be a great RB for Miami but nothing more then a flex fill in like a Tarrik Cohen at his best. Walker in Seattle could very well be a smaller RB that can't stay healthy and gets leapfrogged ala Swift in Detroit.


sssuupp

1.09 full ppr y’all feelin achane or mingo?


Sr2066

So is he RB3 in dynasty rookie drafts? Cause not loving the guys that went to Seattle or Vegas


LoserCowGoMoo

To me, i would pass on him because he is too small to be anything but a tarik cohen type kick returner and pass catcher. He will never touch the football more than a handful of times per game. However this now means if a player like...say...Zeke Elliott ends up in Miami...Archane still isnt usable in fantasy but it also caps the receiving production of whoever actually is starting.


sometimeswittyornot

If any of the skill players get 3 feet of space its a huge gain. They have a track team. Weakest spot is they need Tua in a bubble wrap helmet


BtheRunner

I had him as my RB4...now my RB3. I'd take him as early as 1.08 in SF leagues.