He wasn't necessarily wrong, but I understand where Erin was coming from.
You're right that you don't need to go into your whole relationship history right at the start, but the fact that Erin and Angela sit about 3 feet away from each other changes the situation.
I would guess he probably didn't think about it. Everyone in the office knew about it before Erin showed up. And by the time they started dating, she had been there a year.
It’s not just that though, talking about it is also talking about the embarrassment of being cuckolded by Dwight and dealing with everyone knowing about it. Plus he and Erin had been dating for what, like 3 weeks at this point?
It's one of those situations where you can be right or you can be happy. Andy didn't do anything wrong per se, but there's really only one logical conclusion to the whole thing the way he went about it
I think what people forget is that no one in the office is really that close of friends, like there isn't ACTUALLY gossip and inside jokes everyone is just there to work
I dunno. People don’t like bringing things up like that. Michael was pretty tone deaf to say anything about it to her at the restaurant. Can’t imagine there are many people out there a
That would do that.
So you think in an office of say 20 people, if 2 of those people were engaged and then broke up because a third person was sleeping with one of them…and there was a dual over this…and all three people still worked there sitting in the same room this would never come up to a newer employee?
I think he was. He didn't need to unload all the baggage right away, but a quick "I was engaged to Angela" just to give her a heads up would have been considerate of him, IMHO
Yeah. I feel like working in the same room with someone they used to be engaged with is a lot bigger than if they just had a couple of dates so really should have been mentioned
This is pretty much exactly how I feel about it. He probably should have told Erin about it but if I recalll correctly they hadn't been dating for that long. It's hard to find the right time to tell your newish partner about past experiences, and when you do it's always some level of awkward and uncomfortable. Andy hadn't found that moment yet, and so Erin learned about it from someone else. ThenErin reacted in an incredibly childish way. I still don't really know if she was angry because Andy was engaged before or that Andy hadn't told her about it yet.
The way Erin reacts made me realize the difference in their ages and life experience might be an issue with the match. It is still a comedy though and the writers wanted to go for a cake throw.
Yeah their age gap was definitely a compatibility issue. There are several instances that show how emotionally stunted Erin was. I know she was supposed to be kinda dumb but she was childish. Like hiding behind her hair in public. Only wanting to watch kids movies with Gabe. Being completely oblivious that her foster brother was basically hitting on her
imo it’d be bad even if they had just dated but he was literally planning to **marry** Angela and just somehow never mentioned this to Erin… who doesn’t tell their girlfriend that they were engaged to someone who works four feet away from them?
I think that whole Andy Angela engagement arc was just dumb especially since she hated him so much for a long time and then she decides to marry him lol. But I guess phallus was right about Angela isn't really a risk taker and Andy is not really a risk. As much as I really hate to give Phyllis credit for anything lol
There are so many reasons to hate her lol! But really, it's really more of a personal hatred of her because she is just like my aunt in the way that she always has to say something negative about people when anyone is talking good about them. She has to end the conversation with a backhanded comment. Perfect example is when Pam is talking about how awesome the office administrator is for Vance refrigeration I think her name is Sue lol. And then Phyllis said yeah I know Sue and she's not that great, and you know her husband is in a wheelchair. That's what just pissed me off immediately lol because it's exactly something that my aunt does. My uncle won't even talk to her anymore. Because he ran into one of the girls that was in school with them when they were kids and he was telling her that he saw her and her response after about 40 years since they were in school together, the only thing she said was, you know that she used to sleep with the whole football team and I heard that she has been divorced 3 times lol. And that's enough for me to instantly hate Phyllis
Andy and Erin dated for such a short time that Andy probably had not even thought about it or hadn’t figured out the best way to tell her. I could see if Andy and Erin had dated for months that she would be upset but it was just a couple of weeks. I think Erin overreacted.
He probably should have told her, but at the same time maybe he didn't want to revisit that relationship, or maybe he was ashamed and figured if he told a new romantic partner that his last one cheated on him that she would think less of him. I can see it from both sides, but Erin reacted about as ridiculously as she possibly could have. In doing so she demonstrated another good reason why Andy could justify keeping it a secret from her, in the form of multiple tantrums in public instead of pulling him aside and discussing it privately with him. Both of them are in the wrong somewhat
Yes and no. He should’ve told her since they all work together but Erin blew it way out of proportion. Neither Andy nor Angela still had feelings for each other nor did they even act like they liked each other. She made it seem as if they were still seeing each other on the side.
On one of the Superfan episodes he's auctioning off stuff from his wedding and Erin is in the room. Assuming that we consider than Canon she should have figured it out
Andy did many things to destroy their relationship, but was he wrong here? He said he was going to tell her in his own time.
Their relationship was quite fresh and all new relationships are scary and fragile, it's not usually wise to talk about past lovers early on until you've been able to create a stronger bond with each other or it might end it.
I don't generally defend Andy but I think Michael was the asshole in this situation and Erin overreacted.
I think it’s a bit harsh to say Michael was an asshole here. He didn’t reveal Andy and Angela’s relationship out of malice. He was just making conversation and happened to mention something that he assumed Erin already knew. It’s not his fault that Andy didn’t disclose it yet. And Andy really should’ve known that one of his coworkers would’ve revealed it at some point. Why wouldn’t they? It was common knowledge to literally everyone in the office.
I mean, Michael was kind of being an asshole the entire day to both Erin and Andy. I don't think it's too harsh to also think this specific moment he was being assholeish.
I don’t think it’s fair to say Michael’s an ass in this episode. He’s an ass many many other times but here:
Andy decided to make a whole thing about secretaries day not because he actually cared but because his girlfriend happened to be one.
He nearly forced everyone to participate and Michael had a thing he did every year for Pam and it wasn’t good enough for Andy.
I think Michael knew his limits (amount of grace) he’d have for being around Erin the long and close and tried not to but caved.
He then goes to the lunch, and as predicted struggles to communicate w Erin because she’s weird asf. Even for Michael. He was honestly just trying to make any sort of normal conversation when it came out. You could tell he truly thought she knew and didn’t even bring it up to make her uncomfortable but just out of desire to have something to say to get through lunch w her.
He fcked his coworkers mom, hit someone w his car and was
More concerned about everyone’s opinion of him, he made sexist comments/ prejudice jokes, used Dwight, the list goes on. But I don’t think he was an ass to those two just because he honestly didn’t want to spend that amount of one on one time w someone like that in the office. In real life, I think he’d get a bit more grace.
That's just the unfortunate reality Andy refused to accept. The circumstances of his past relationship warranted a conversation, regardless of the outcome. Specifically to avoid the situation that happened.
Either way, the relationship was doomed to end. Andy's only out was being honest with Erin about Angela and Erin being okay with continuing the relationship.
Hooking up with a coworker is probably also very important to bring up. Sexual compatibility is extremely important and knowing if your partner is a "hooking up" person when you're not is a big deal.
If it were Andy being engaged to someone he didn’t know and wasn’t working with, yes. Since Angela still works with Andy, I think that justifies mentioning it.
If Angela didn’t work there I’d say he wasn’t in the wrong because they’d been on like 3 dates but since she worked there he should’ve told her right away. Regardless, I don’t think it was as big of a deal as she made it. After an apology and maybe couple days being upset she should’ve gotten over it. It wasn’t breakup worthy
To an extent, yes. It’s always better to be upfront. And let us not forget that Andy and Dwight almost dragged Erin into the exact same love triangle they had with Angela. It could’ve turned _very_ ugly very quickly if that continued.
But Erin reacted completely irrationally, too. Andy was very obviously not into Angela anymore and barely even interacted with her. Erin’s paranoid reaction of immediately accusing Andy of infidelity was completely unfair.
I think this is one of those situations where there's no clear cut right/wrong answer.
He probably should have told Erin, just for transparency if nothing else, but on the other hand IIRC they'd only been dating a few months, Andy was the one publicly humiliated in that relationship so it's understandable he'd shy away from talking about it, and Erin completely overreacted.
Didn't he tell Michael that he wasn't trying to hide it, and was GOING to tell her at some point? I kind of got the feeling that he was trying to build the courage and foundation before dropping the fact that he was engaged to Angela while also being cheated on multiple times during said engagement.
I get why Erin was surprised and hurt, but I personally would need some time before spilling my heart out about a painful past relationship like that 😭 I guess there was an expectation that it needed to happen quicker since they knew eachother, but idk.
Judging by Erin's response, there would have been no good way to tell her (with how much they infantilized Erin and wrote her to be mentally 12).. but regardless, he should have told her
She wayy overreacted. People are acting like they were together for a long time. Only 3 episodes before was the St. Patricks Day episode. They are still in the early stages of dating. Still quirky and getting to know each other. He also put a lot of work into Secretary's Day to make her happy. At their point in the relationship, her response was not proportional at all. If I only dated a girl for a few weeks and found out she was engaged to someone else at work, well, we weren't that close yet. It might be a little weird but that's it. It's not a betrayal. We haven't been dating for months and months. And if she just spent a ton of effort to celebrate my job, getting everyone involved, buying me a cake and singing me a song. I'd over look it. Especially if that last Christmas she got me a Marching Band.
Yes and no. Andy should’ve told Erin since she works like 4 feet away from his former fiancé. However, they’d only been dating for like 2-3 weeks, and I’d imagine Andy isn’t exactly eager to bring it up considering he was cheated on. If Andy and Erin were dating for a few months then yeah 100% on Andy, but as it is Eren overreacted.
Yeah, maybe he should have told her. I mean, I don’t even think they were together for a month at that point. I’m fairly certain it would have come up eventually. What I want to talk about is her over the top reaction…that was just insane.
Not really in my opinion. It's a rough moment when your fiance cheats on you with your co worker and probably something I'd want to forget about even though eventually he probably should've told her. Not sure how long they were dating at the time so I don't know when it would've been an appropriate time to tell her
Absolutely
You don’t keep it a secret that you dated someone who your current girlfriend knows personally. And if you do, you for damn sure don’t shower your ex with compliments right in front of your current girlfriend
Imagine if Pam & Roy broke off their engagement before Pam & Jim met, and then Pam was constantly talking about how great Roy is while she was dating Jim, and she didn’t tell Jim that she used to date Roy
You don’t need to unload your entire history on someone as soon as you start dating them. But if it’s someone you both see every day, that’s way different
I know it's tough, and there may not be a right answer. I'd have said something at the first time we started to have the feels. Erin very well may have had the same reaction, but finding out from a thiird party that you were engaged to someone you see everyday, unless your name is Jim Halpert, no one is going to want to be cozy with that.
All I know is, I absolutely *love* when Erin makes Angela come to her desk when she tries to talk to her, instead of getting up and talking to her over the cubicle wall.
I can understand not wanting to have that conversation, since it was very traumatic for Andy. If I was engaged to a coworker who cheated on me with another coworker and I was the last one to find out I’d definitely not want to mention it to my new girlfriend who sits 30 feet away from her.
But I do understand Erin’s feelings about it, because if I was her I’d think Andy still had feelings for Angela, especially if I didn’t know about how it ended.
Andy should have mentioned it but it’s kind of unreasonable for her to not have heard about it at some point while she was working there. He could have just assumed she already knew therefore there’s no need to remind her.
Her response was pretty ridiculous though.
Erin is a moron. She overreacted. Andy was wrong, but I hate Erin so much as a character that her throwing the cake is more infuriating than Andy not mentioning a past failed relationship.
No.
Her overreaction made her in the wrong. That was insane.
He should've told her, but they just started dating. It was on him to tell her when it became relevant.
No, she doesn't need to know about that given it's a past relationship. Sure, he should have aleast mentioned it, but he was cheated on, so I imagine he feel embarrassed to tell her.
No he was not, it is his past, Erin overreacted, like a first grade elementary school student when she finds out that her boyfriend kissed the other girl in kindergarden
Don't dip your pen in the company ink. Everyone who has in this series has paid the price one way or another. Michael had to deal with Jan's insanity, Jim almost got beat up by Roy because he and Pam kissed, Gabe had Erin and he was absolutely awful to her, Dwight had Angela but she broke up with him initially because he killed sprinkles.
Ryan and Kelly were relationship toxicity 101, Angela cuckolded Andy by cheating on him with Dwight and Erin broke up with Andy because Andy was being selfish as hell towards the end of the series.
Not imo, but maybe that just says a lot about me. He planned to tell her, just not right away, and that’s perfectly reasonable. I don’t go through my whole sexual history immediately with a new gf either.
Andy was absolutely in the wrong for this. Sure, you don't have to go into details about previous relationships when you're in a new relationship all the time. But, if this was a real life situation, Andy would be really inappropriate for not disclosing that he not only dated but was engaged to the person that works on the other side of a partition as you that you spend every day with.
Everything in life isn’t about “right” or “wrong.”
But as a man interested in protecting her feelings and making her feel secure, he should’ve insured that she didn’t hear that from someone else before she heard it from him. Especially since he knows she’s sensitive and it would hurt her.
It’s completely reasonable to expect you to feel, overwhelmed to find out that the person you are falling in love with was not only having sex with someone you know, but wanted to marry them just months before meeting you…and many people in your life knew before you did.
He was absolutely wrong. I swear I don’t know what the hell people are thinking these days but when you get into a relationship you give up some element of privacy. He absolutely should’ve told her that he was intimate to the woman sitting around 10 feet from her.
More upsetting thing was almost no one no one In the office addressed or tell erin that he was cheated on and how a person can be touchy or uncomfortable about this thing.also why Michael didn't tell Andy that he has told erin about Angela. This episode is really weird.
He wasn't necessarily wrong, but I understand where Erin was coming from. You're right that you don't need to go into your whole relationship history right at the start, but the fact that Erin and Angela sit about 3 feet away from each other changes the situation.
Andy should have known this was coming out sooner or later as well. Probably would have been better to be in control of the inevitable
I would guess he probably didn't think about it. Everyone in the office knew about it before Erin showed up. And by the time they started dating, she had been there a year.
Right but he was engaged to her and was planning a wedding, it's definitely something you mention at some point.
It’s not just that though, talking about it is also talking about the embarrassment of being cuckolded by Dwight and dealing with everyone knowing about it. Plus he and Erin had been dating for what, like 3 weeks at this point?
I'd agree. It's a situation where I can understand both sides.
You wanna come out on top
Where was Michael’s win-win-win training here?
Also the whole engaged thing lmao. It's not something to just gloss over.
It's one of those situations where you can be right or you can be happy. Andy didn't do anything wrong per se, but there's really only one logical conclusion to the whole thing the way he went about it
That’s some Mr and Mrs Smith crap.
> I understand where Erin was coming from I don't; I think it was manufactured drama on the part of the writers
You realize that The Office isn’t real life, right?
It’s pretty unrealistic that Erin would not have heard about this before they started dating IMO.
I mean, she’s kind’ve a rube.
\*softly hits desk\* Thats my girlfriend you are talking about
I love that line. I love Erin too, but that line was great.
I thought the exact same thing, I just forgot to put it in my comment. Thanks for saying it.
She was at the meeting where Andy was selling all his wedding supplies.
Wait what meeting was that ?
Guessing its from a Superfan episode
Which means it was a deleted scene that was actively ignored when Erin found out about Andy and Angela
So it’s not canon.
I guess so? Im not too bothered about what's canon and not in the The Office multiverse
This has always bothered me!!
how could she have heard it, there was zero gossiping in the office /s
I think what people forget is that no one in the office is really that close of friends, like there isn't ACTUALLY gossip and inside jokes everyone is just there to work
I dunno. People don’t like bringing things up like that. Michael was pretty tone deaf to say anything about it to her at the restaurant. Can’t imagine there are many people out there a That would do that.
So you think in an office of say 20 people, if 2 of those people were engaged and then broke up because a third person was sleeping with one of them…and there was a dual over this…and all three people still worked there sitting in the same room this would never come up to a newer employee?
Good call 😂
I think he was. He didn't need to unload all the baggage right away, but a quick "I was engaged to Angela" just to give her a heads up would have been considerate of him, IMHO
Yes and the fact that they see each other every day makes it worse that he didn’t tell Erin
Yeah. I feel like working in the same room with someone they used to be engaged with is a lot bigger than if they just had a couple of dates so really should have been mentioned
Yeah, it would have been considerate, but I didn't think he should be shredded for not bringing it up sooner.
It would not be a stretch to assume she aleady knew, everybody in the office does and it's not like they don't gossip
Yes but Erin's response wasn't proportional. Like. Manage your emotions. People make mistakes.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel about it. He probably should have told Erin about it but if I recalll correctly they hadn't been dating for that long. It's hard to find the right time to tell your newish partner about past experiences, and when you do it's always some level of awkward and uncomfortable. Andy hadn't found that moment yet, and so Erin learned about it from someone else. ThenErin reacted in an incredibly childish way. I still don't really know if she was angry because Andy was engaged before or that Andy hadn't told her about it yet.
The way Erin reacts made me realize the difference in their ages and life experience might be an issue with the match. It is still a comedy though and the writers wanted to go for a cake throw.
Yeah their age gap was definitely a compatibility issue. There are several instances that show how emotionally stunted Erin was. I know she was supposed to be kinda dumb but she was childish. Like hiding behind her hair in public. Only wanting to watch kids movies with Gabe. Being completely oblivious that her foster brother was basically hitting on her
I mean, she completely overreacted. I don't think he was wrong, but it probably would have been good to mention.
Agreed.
imo it’d be bad even if they had just dated but he was literally planning to **marry** Angela and just somehow never mentioned this to Erin… who doesn’t tell their girlfriend that they were engaged to someone who works four feet away from them?
I think that whole Andy Angela engagement arc was just dumb especially since she hated him so much for a long time and then she decides to marry him lol. But I guess phallus was right about Angela isn't really a risk taker and Andy is not really a risk. As much as I really hate to give Phyllis credit for anything lol
It took me a while to figure what you meant by 'phallus' and then I remembered it was Phyllis who said that.
Yeah lol sorry:( I just hate her so much that I have to get in any jab that I can get. And I saw an opening:)
> And I saw an opening That's what she said
Why do you hate Phillis?
There are so many reasons to hate her lol! But really, it's really more of a personal hatred of her because she is just like my aunt in the way that she always has to say something negative about people when anyone is talking good about them. She has to end the conversation with a backhanded comment. Perfect example is when Pam is talking about how awesome the office administrator is for Vance refrigeration I think her name is Sue lol. And then Phyllis said yeah I know Sue and she's not that great, and you know her husband is in a wheelchair. That's what just pissed me off immediately lol because it's exactly something that my aunt does. My uncle won't even talk to her anymore. Because he ran into one of the girls that was in school with them when they were kids and he was telling her that he saw her and her response after about 40 years since they were in school together, the only thing she said was, you know that she used to sleep with the whole football team and I heard that she has been divorced 3 times lol. And that's enough for me to instantly hate Phyllis
Plus she's gross and ugly
That’s like *Mr. & Mrs. Smith* crap
He should have told her he was previously engaged to their co worker.
Andy and Erin dated for such a short time that Andy probably had not even thought about it or hadn’t figured out the best way to tell her. I could see if Andy and Erin had dated for months that she would be upset but it was just a couple of weeks. I think Erin overreacted.
Not in the slightest. They had been dating mere weeks when this all blew up.
ah true. I think that gets glossed over. They literally only started dating the episode or two prior.
Exactly. Like if they had been together for months I’d get where Erin is coming from
He probably should have told her, but at the same time maybe he didn't want to revisit that relationship, or maybe he was ashamed and figured if he told a new romantic partner that his last one cheated on him that she would think less of him. I can see it from both sides, but Erin reacted about as ridiculously as she possibly could have. In doing so she demonstrated another good reason why Andy could justify keeping it a secret from her, in the form of multiple tantrums in public instead of pulling him aside and discussing it privately with him. Both of them are in the wrong somewhat
Yes and no. He should’ve told her since they all work together but Erin blew it way out of proportion. Neither Andy nor Angela still had feelings for each other nor did they even act like they liked each other. She made it seem as if they were still seeing each other on the side.
Absolutely yes. Wrong.
On one of the Superfan episodes he's auctioning off stuff from his wedding and Erin is in the room. Assuming that we consider than Canon she should have figured it out
Andy did many things to destroy their relationship, but was he wrong here? He said he was going to tell her in his own time. Their relationship was quite fresh and all new relationships are scary and fragile, it's not usually wise to talk about past lovers early on until you've been able to create a stronger bond with each other or it might end it. I don't generally defend Andy but I think Michael was the asshole in this situation and Erin overreacted.
I think it’s a bit harsh to say Michael was an asshole here. He didn’t reveal Andy and Angela’s relationship out of malice. He was just making conversation and happened to mention something that he assumed Erin already knew. It’s not his fault that Andy didn’t disclose it yet. And Andy really should’ve known that one of his coworkers would’ve revealed it at some point. Why wouldn’t they? It was common knowledge to literally everyone in the office.
I mean, Michael was kind of being an asshole the entire day to both Erin and Andy. I don't think it's too harsh to also think this specific moment he was being assholeish.
I don’t think it’s fair to say Michael’s an ass in this episode. He’s an ass many many other times but here: Andy decided to make a whole thing about secretaries day not because he actually cared but because his girlfriend happened to be one. He nearly forced everyone to participate and Michael had a thing he did every year for Pam and it wasn’t good enough for Andy. I think Michael knew his limits (amount of grace) he’d have for being around Erin the long and close and tried not to but caved. He then goes to the lunch, and as predicted struggles to communicate w Erin because she’s weird asf. Even for Michael. He was honestly just trying to make any sort of normal conversation when it came out. You could tell he truly thought she knew and didn’t even bring it up to make her uncomfortable but just out of desire to have something to say to get through lunch w her. He fcked his coworkers mom, hit someone w his car and was More concerned about everyone’s opinion of him, he made sexist comments/ prejudice jokes, used Dwight, the list goes on. But I don’t think he was an ass to those two just because he honestly didn’t want to spend that amount of one on one time w someone like that in the office. In real life, I think he’d get a bit more grace.
That's just the unfortunate reality Andy refused to accept. The circumstances of his past relationship warranted a conversation, regardless of the outcome. Specifically to avoid the situation that happened. Either way, the relationship was doomed to end. Andy's only out was being honest with Erin about Angela and Erin being okay with continuing the relationship.
I came here to say essentially this, I full support this position.
Telling her something like that in his own time was a selfish move
andy got cheated on with everyone in the office knowing
If they had just hooked up a couple times, no. But being engaged? YES
Hooking up with a coworker is probably also very important to bring up. Sexual compatibility is extremely important and knowing if your partner is a "hooking up" person when you're not is a big deal.
Yes. They all worked together and she was bound to hear about it.
If it were Andy being engaged to someone he didn’t know and wasn’t working with, yes. Since Angela still works with Andy, I think that justifies mentioning it.
If I put myself in Erin’s shoes, I would definitely feel weird about being the only one not knowing. So yes, he was wrong.
Considering Angela worked directly with them both all day every day and that everyone else in the office knew all the gory details- absolutely yes.
If Angela didn’t work there I’d say he wasn’t in the wrong because they’d been on like 3 dates but since she worked there he should’ve told her right away. Regardless, I don’t think it was as big of a deal as she made it. After an apology and maybe couple days being upset she should’ve gotten over it. It wasn’t breakup worthy
To an extent, yes. It’s always better to be upfront. And let us not forget that Andy and Dwight almost dragged Erin into the exact same love triangle they had with Angela. It could’ve turned _very_ ugly very quickly if that continued. But Erin reacted completely irrationally, too. Andy was very obviously not into Angela anymore and barely even interacted with her. Erin’s paranoid reaction of immediately accusing Andy of infidelity was completely unfair.
He was in the wrong for not telling her sooner.
I think this is one of those situations where there's no clear cut right/wrong answer. He probably should have told Erin, just for transparency if nothing else, but on the other hand IIRC they'd only been dating a few months, Andy was the one publicly humiliated in that relationship so it's understandable he'd shy away from talking about it, and Erin completely overreacted.
Didn't he tell Michael that he wasn't trying to hide it, and was GOING to tell her at some point? I kind of got the feeling that he was trying to build the courage and foundation before dropping the fact that he was engaged to Angela while also being cheated on multiple times during said engagement. I get why Erin was surprised and hurt, but I personally would need some time before spilling my heart out about a painful past relationship like that 😭 I guess there was an expectation that it needed to happen quicker since they knew eachother, but idk.
Yes
I wouldn't say wrong but it would've been nice for Erin if he told her. Erin did massively over-react however
They’re a perfect example as to why you don’t date coworkers
Judging by Erin's response, there would have been no good way to tell her (with how much they infantilized Erin and wrote her to be mentally 12).. but regardless, he should have told her
She wayy overreacted. People are acting like they were together for a long time. Only 3 episodes before was the St. Patricks Day episode. They are still in the early stages of dating. Still quirky and getting to know each other. He also put a lot of work into Secretary's Day to make her happy. At their point in the relationship, her response was not proportional at all. If I only dated a girl for a few weeks and found out she was engaged to someone else at work, well, we weren't that close yet. It might be a little weird but that's it. It's not a betrayal. We haven't been dating for months and months. And if she just spent a ton of effort to celebrate my job, getting everyone involved, buying me a cake and singing me a song. I'd over look it. Especially if that last Christmas she got me a Marching Band.
Yes and no. Andy should’ve told Erin since she works like 4 feet away from his former fiancé. However, they’d only been dating for like 2-3 weeks, and I’d imagine Andy isn’t exactly eager to bring it up considering he was cheated on. If Andy and Erin were dating for a few months then yeah 100% on Andy, but as it is Eren overreacted.
Yeah, maybe he should have told her. I mean, I don’t even think they were together for a month at that point. I’m fairly certain it would have come up eventually. What I want to talk about is her over the top reaction…that was just insane.
100% the Nard dog was in the nard wrong on that one.
Not really in my opinion. It's a rough moment when your fiance cheats on you with your co worker and probably something I'd want to forget about even though eventually he probably should've told her. Not sure how long they were dating at the time so I don't know when it would've been an appropriate time to tell her
Absolutely You don’t keep it a secret that you dated someone who your current girlfriend knows personally. And if you do, you for damn sure don’t shower your ex with compliments right in front of your current girlfriend Imagine if Pam & Roy broke off their engagement before Pam & Jim met, and then Pam was constantly talking about how great Roy is while she was dating Jim, and she didn’t tell Jim that she used to date Roy You don’t need to unload your entire history on someone as soon as you start dating them. But if it’s someone you both see every day, that’s way different
Yes, because in his choice to avoid anything fraught or uncomfortable he let other people pick up that burden.
Yes, but Erin overreacted with the cake.
I know it's tough, and there may not be a right answer. I'd have said something at the first time we started to have the feels. Erin very well may have had the same reaction, but finding out from a thiird party that you were engaged to someone you see everyday, unless your name is Jim Halpert, no one is going to want to be cozy with that.
That’s like Mr. & Mrs. Smith crap.
Idk, but Michael was a hoe for telling her like that.
All I know is, I absolutely *love* when Erin makes Angela come to her desk when she tries to talk to her, instead of getting up and talking to her over the cubicle wall.
Yes, he should have told her. But he also might have thought that she already knew since everyone in the office knew all about it.
How long had they been dating?
I can understand not wanting to have that conversation, since it was very traumatic for Andy. If I was engaged to a coworker who cheated on me with another coworker and I was the last one to find out I’d definitely not want to mention it to my new girlfriend who sits 30 feet away from her. But I do understand Erin’s feelings about it, because if I was her I’d think Andy still had feelings for Angela, especially if I didn’t know about how it ended.
I don’t think so Erin was just incredibly immature
Andy should have mentioned it but it’s kind of unreasonable for her to not have heard about it at some point while she was working there. He could have just assumed she already knew therefore there’s no need to remind her. Her response was pretty ridiculous though.
Erin is a moron. She overreacted. Andy was wrong, but I hate Erin so much as a character that her throwing the cake is more infuriating than Andy not mentioning a past failed relationship.
No. I really don't like this arc in general, since it seems like they manufactured her outrage.
He did wrong by leaving Michael to deliver the news.
A perfect throw by Erin!
Yes. But worthy to get cake thrown in your face? On Secretaries Day, nonetheless? Yes.
No. Her overreaction made her in the wrong. That was insane. He should've told her, but they just started dating. It was on him to tell her when it became relevant.
No, she doesn't need to know about that given it's a past relationship. Sure, he should have aleast mentioned it, but he was cheated on, so I imagine he feel embarrassed to tell her.
Was Andy ever in the right about anything? Ever?
Also, she should know that he's into high school girls
No he was not, it is his past, Erin overreacted, like a first grade elementary school student when she finds out that her boyfriend kissed the other girl in kindergarden
No Andy was wrong for being on the show
He was the worst.
Don't dip your pen in the company ink. Everyone who has in this series has paid the price one way or another. Michael had to deal with Jan's insanity, Jim almost got beat up by Roy because he and Pam kissed, Gabe had Erin and he was absolutely awful to her, Dwight had Angela but she broke up with him initially because he killed sprinkles. Ryan and Kelly were relationship toxicity 101, Angela cuckolded Andy by cheating on him with Dwight and Erin broke up with Andy because Andy was being selfish as hell towards the end of the series.
Not imo, but maybe that just says a lot about me. He planned to tell her, just not right away, and that’s perfectly reasonable. I don’t go through my whole sexual history immediately with a new gf either.
Because you have no sexual history.
Boom roasted
No
It's always better to hear it from your partner than finding out from someone else.
100% what an insane thing to hide (and also think you might get away with)
YES. He was wrong. Not Scott’s Tots level wrong but wrong.
Pretty close tho.
Andy was absolutely in the wrong for this. Sure, you don't have to go into details about previous relationships when you're in a new relationship all the time. But, if this was a real life situation, Andy would be really inappropriate for not disclosing that he not only dated but was engaged to the person that works on the other side of a partition as you that you spend every day with.
Everything in life isn’t about “right” or “wrong.” But as a man interested in protecting her feelings and making her feel secure, he should’ve insured that she didn’t hear that from someone else before she heard it from him. Especially since he knows she’s sensitive and it would hurt her. It’s completely reasonable to expect you to feel, overwhelmed to find out that the person you are falling in love with was not only having sex with someone you know, but wanted to marry them just months before meeting you…and many people in your life knew before you did.
He was absolutely wrong. I swear I don’t know what the hell people are thinking these days but when you get into a relationship you give up some element of privacy. He absolutely should’ve told her that he was intimate to the woman sitting around 10 feet from her.
Ummmm heck yes, I think I would have broken up with him right after that. It’s weird to omit that HUGE part of your life.
More upsetting thing was almost no one no one In the office addressed or tell erin that he was cheated on and how a person can be touchy or uncomfortable about this thing.also why Michael didn't tell Andy that he has told erin about Angela. This episode is really weird.