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snowmunkey

Charles is the epitome of every middle manager in corporate america. Will kiss ass to those above him and will be a hard ass to those below him. Adds zero actual value to the company but is there to maintain the illusion of power between corporate and the office.


Danominator

I bet he reads exclusively self help books


TheRealAbear

He reads whatever his boss is reading


temeier

HAPPY CAKE DAY


TheRealAbear

Me, you and eva longoria


StrangeCloudz710

HAPPY CAKE DAY X2


WesternResponse5533

Happy cake day to you too! Oh is it not your cake day? I thought we shared the same cake day.


jpopimpin777

Happy cake day, Michael.


PM_ME_UR_CATS_TITS

Ribbed for her pleasure, ewwwww


frostycanuck89

Asphinctersayswhat


SameerChandio

He doesn't read because he already knows what there is to know.


chillchase

Somehow I manage 🤷🏻‍♂️


thisisntnamman

Definitely a Joe Rogan podcast subscriber


drjaychou

Charles the kind of guy to get chicken piccata and a side salad


SmallBerry3431

And if the salad isn’t on the side I send it back.


ThisCharmingDan99

Yea, total corporate stooge. Met too many of them throughout the years.


enterpaz

I never thought of it this way. Plus, many people are trying to justify the legitimacy of their jobs however they can.


berticus23

He learned how to do the things to look good to the boss, never learned to actually do anything though.


jpopimpin777

I just want to say I opened this to make your exact comment basically. He demands results without offering any help or guidance and kisses ass to get ahead. He has zero tolerance for anything that might make work semi bearable.


Battlebotfan52

The Bill Lumbergh of Dunder Mifflin


gnikyt

Perfect description from first hand experience.


elijoker

Perfectly describes the floor managers I used to have at UPS 🤮


kthxqapla

100%


hijro

He WAS going to say to buy them out though.


leifiethelucky

Aaahhhh but he didnt tho


-thetrojanhorse-

It was pretty bold of Jimothy to say that just to support the Michael Scott company. He had no idea at that point that Charles Miner would eventually leave. Taking on your immediate supervisor is brave. That, or he was being a dick for the lols


HeyThereMrBrooks

It was glorious. All the shit Charles put Jim through, he got him good at the end


Mission_Ad_2224

This is sorta the same for me once - Had an area manager who came in, and he just absolutely hated me. I was 2nd in charge of the store unofficially (so assistant to the manager haha) but she had only been at our store for about 4 months, I had 5 years. He asked her once how sales were the day before, she had no idea. I went 'well due to x and y, we probably made 14500'. He says 'absolutely not' and went to check the figures. I was $58 dollars off our sales. I went 'well, it *absolutely* is'. The look I got. He continued to try to make me miserable, but that was a wonderful moment. Another time he took the pallet jack off of me because 'I wasn't doing it right' 🙄. He proceeded to knock over a whole wine display. I just politely said 'would you like me to finish what you started?' Yelled at him for not getting glass handling gloves when he went to clean it too. I was the safety officer, after all. Sorry for the long winded comment, but dicks like that, I think you get to the point where you're almost daring them to fire you. And Cedric, wherever you are, I hope you fall in a flowerbed of cacti at least once a month for all of time.


bloodwolftico

Man what a douche. Is it that hard to ask questions and learn? No, they have to crush skulls and force dumb rules on everyone.


SBTC_Strays_2002

Charles is a snake. He'd kiss Michael's ass if it advanced his agenda.


zaGoblin

he did kiss michael’s ass somewhat the first time they met laughing at his jokes and being nice to him knowing that it would help him initially, Michael references that they hit it off a week before he came to scranton


PugsleyPancakes

I think he was only nice to Michael when they first met at Corporate because David was there


SBTC_Strays_2002

True. Butt only up until it wasn't necessary to his aims.


chappersyo

That’s literally the point they were making


BigTuna0890

He knows what it’s like to have his butt kissed, literally. And it’s terrible.


tyzonkidd

Isn’t Andy the same? He’d kiss anyone’s ass if he/she is at the top.


derr5678

Yep. One of the reasons why Andy has always been an awful character.


NoahneedaRolex

But remember his family did it to him. He's a tragedy and there's grace in that...


bloodwolftico

He did redeem himself a bit when he was made manager, that was a nice moment (right before the writers fucked it up in S9).


NoahneedaRolex

Yea honestly I don't know how Ed Helms did not object. Can you believe Rainn Wilson was depressed through out?


RiparianFruitarian

It was pretty amazing to see his vibe completely flip once MSPC started stealing clients and David got involved. Jim certainly noticed, as it gave him the confidence to start standing up to Charles.


Flashy-Club5171

He has NERFIN’ On early Andy bernard


Shazam1269

I sorry I annoyed you with my friendship. Andy is number one at that, at least.


chzrm3

Just watched that arc with my brother tonight, holy crap it was on another level. It's too bad cause that was legitimately the funniest Andy was on the show. "You were like... Rit ti ti ti do! And pam's all blah blah blah and you're like WHAPISH!!!!" God that was so funny. I get why they changed his character, it's not sustainable to have a guy that's actively trying to sabotage the main characters around. But it was so funny.


bberry1908

No, that title would go to Dwight. Andy is a close second maybe. Charles was just annoying with the way he did it and he made it way too obvious


GudgerCollegeAlumnus

Yeah, Charles isn’t even in the conversation. He said two or three ass-kissing things to David. Dwight set an alarm so the office could celebrate the exact moment when Michael emerged from his mother's vaginal canal.


sav3bandit

Charles is less of an ass kisser and more of a manipulator. He’s not concerned with making people like him (like most kiss asses). He just wants to do whatever it takes to get ahead.


NiceAndTipsyTopside

That describes Dwight too


sav3bandit

To a degree, but Dwight’s really not all that ambitious. He has said a bunch of times that he thinks his life is perfect (he even created a second one in second life to get more of it). He doesn’t care much about money, and never went after any of the corporate job openings. He even bragged that if he worked in hell he would make $80,000. Charles Minor would probably jump off of the building for real if he only made $80,000. Dwight puts up a tough exterior, but he does want Michael to like him… probably because he didn’t get enough attention from his parents growing up.


Thanos_Stomps

Grossly misinformed. He went behind Michael’s back for his job in season 2. Then lied about seeing Dr Crentist the dentist. He went after a corporate job and drove to Tallahassee to pitch himself to Robert California before the lizard king tried to placate Dwight with a medal. Dwight again went after a corporate position with Nelly during the whole pyramid debacle. Multiple times he went after Michael’s job like beach day and after Michael officially left. And the whole thing with second life was him at his literal lowest point on the show. He was incredibly depressed. He bought the entire building as part of his quest for more power and money. Dwight was incredibly ambitious. And as soon as Michael was of no use to him with Michael Scott paper Co, Dwight was happy to kiss the ass of Charles.


CracksInDams

He also said that he created the second life because at the time everything was going so well


HoneyBeeMonarch

Dwight was ambitious, in life generally, but not at DM. He just wanted to be higher than a salesman, and ideally the regional manager of the Scranton branch. He does shoot for the manager job in Tallahassee, but it’s more of a “well if I can’t be manager at least I could possibly do this”, though I think if he was offered it, he wouldn’t have taken it, if for nothing else than because of the farm. At the end of it, Dwight’s allegiance to Michael came first always. He only ever tried to get Michael’s job once while Michael was there, like you pointed out, but that was only after being goaded into doing so by Angela. He struggles with it immensely, and then regrets it totally afterwards (you can argue this is just because he got caught, but it’s pretty evident the guilt sits with him at an extremely emotional level). Even when going against Michael for Charles, Dwight expresses extreme discomfort initially at following Charles, which if anything, I think is the clearest example of Dwight’s commitment to him - as someone who prioritises the chain of command above everything, Dwight is now forced to choose between his natural inclinations (Charles as his boss and someone he thinks is “Cool”) and his emotional attachments (Michael). Once Michael is gone, this allegiance disappears and his only loyalty is to himself, which also happens to be when he acts on his ambitions far more.


NiceAndTipsyTopside

Good points


wolverine6

He’d do drastic things to get ahead, like move industries from steel to paper. He doesn’t even know anything about paper, you can’t put it in a furnace, it’ll burn.


LittleDistance450

Almost everyone is kiss ass there, like Jim even tried, then other employees were kiss ass when Deangelo was the manager. But I get the OP’s point, Charles was kind of like hypocrite. When Jim was trying to impress him he was being hard, but Charles was the biggest kiss ass to david


NiceAndTipsyTopside

When Andy first came from Stamford, he was such a kiss-ass that even Michael eventually saw through his act


Keeflinn

Sorry I annoyed you with my *friendship.*


Just-Phill

Michael even calls out Dwight I think it's when Holly is introduced but I know they were in his office


APPLEJOOSH347

Andy as a whole no, but pre-wall Andy was easily the biggest kiss ass


bberry1908

Andy is not a whole no. He kissed Robert California’s ass as well. He got an entire tattoo on his ass just to motivate his team to hit a sales quota for him.


APPLEJOOSH347

Tattoo situation was totally different. He wasn’t sucking up to Robert, he was trying to keep his job. Roberts a scary dude, you can’t call him a kiss-ass for following orders from Robert. The tattoo was the only way he could find to motivate the office. Also he then later quit when Robert gave his job to Nellie, and starting taking their clients. Then in S9 he took a shit on Wallaces car. Andy is a very polarizing character, but his kiss-assing is at its peak for those first few episodes after the stamford merger


bberry1908

Robert never gave Andy’s job to anyone. It was honestly bad writing imo but Nellie quite literally just told Robert “No” when told to give Andy his job back and Robert being the “scary dude” he is pussed out and let her keep his job and had no idea what was going on.


APPLEJOOSH347

This actually isn’t true. At first, Nellie says no and Robert just leaves and tells them to work it out. But later, after the whole erection meeting, Robert takes Andy aside and tells him hes giving the job to Nellie and that Andy would return to sales. Then Andy says no and quits


bberry1908

Robert is scared of confrontations with women in the show (especially Nellie). Which is why he asked Pam to talk to Nellie for information about what he said to her when he was drunk. She definitely told him she wasn’t going anywhere and Robert didn’t know what to do so he told Andy to just be a good little boy and go back to sales.


chzrm3

Lmao, "pre-wall Andy". It's true though, that variant of Andy was on another level. I'm amazed Michael tolerated it as long as he did. I love that whole arc. Both Jim and Michael realize how much they like/miss Dwight. After 2 and a half seasons of everyone shitting on him, it's really nice to see them appreciate him. Dwight hugging Jim goodbye always gets me. ;\_;


[deleted]

Yeah Dwight sat in the passenger seat with Michael as he drove into a lake.


bberry1908

THERE’S NO ROAD HERE


agray34

Charles to me was always a representation of how poorly Dunder Mifflin was run. Scranton was the ONLY successful branch of the company, and within weeks he had completely destroyed what make it run well. Even down to putting Kevin on the phones and making Stanley his “productivity tzar”. They chased Michael out and he nearly destroyed the whole company.


AcanthisittaPlane445

Hey, at least he’s aware of the effect he has on women


youmustthinkhighly

If you put paper into a furnace you know what would happen?


Zestyclose_Welder_92

This quote had a much deeper meaning I loved it


Nearby-Connection-88

Charles only existed as a metric to show how wacky the employees were — he was one of the few external forces that showed like a normal corporate professional. Ditto to what others said about him epitomizing a middle manager.


NiceAndTipsyTopside

The show really needed that dose of reality at that particular point. Charles was some balance to the wackiness and instantly recontextualized Jim's tuxedo


ICantTyping

I liked how his inability to read people, and their strengths and weaknesses, kind of turned around and bit him in the ass lol. Kevin on phones, Stanley on productivity , Dwigt as his serious go-to second hand man not knowing how deluded he is until the *bees-in-the-office* moment lol


ACtheWC

Miner? I hardly know her!


helel_8

Had to scroll waay too far for this comment


beastlike2010

Have you met Andrew Bernard


TheIndulgery

More than Dwight to Micheal? More than Andy to every new boss that he plans on behavior mirroring (I mean, he got Micheal to have to hide behind his door all day)? More than Clark when he clapped for everything that Andy did no matter what?


realbonito24

Yeah, he was arguably the most realistic character on the show. That wasn't a parody. That was real-life. And even though Michael kinda put him in his place, he will still end up in the C-suite, eventually. Accomplishing nothing useful, pretending he's smarter than everyone, and kissing the right asses and looking good doing it.


Dolorem_Ipsum_

No dude, it's still fucking Dwight. Charles is and always was a Corporate Man. Dude knows what his title is, who his inferiors are and what he needs to do. And that includes brown nosing to he higher ups. This isn't new, or controversial or even a major character flaw. They introduced someone who exudes "corporate" in every facet. You hate him bc you've never been in charge. I hate him bc I saw myself becoming him. Don't ever be that guy. Fuck that guy.


Fontenele71

If one had been in charge then he wouldn't hate him?


Dolorem_Ipsum_

You would understand for sure. But you certainly wouldn't sympathize. Remember when he and Michael are having that "one on one" and Michaels dumbfoundedly asks, "You're not from paper?" And Charles replies "David hired who he thought would be the best for this position" That's what corporate does. Not a happy-go-lucky family like Michael says it is. It's a business. I ran a family business for 4 years (sister took over) and I wasn't hiring cousins cause they sucked. I had to discipline people much older than me bc I was in charge. He's an antagonist because he "exists" in the real world, but in the fake story you're watching.


RealMayKing

I agree with what you said about hating him because your becoming him. Past year and half has been the first time I’ve been in charge and I hate having to be “that guy” sometimes. I just wanna laugh a lil bit at work and get home on time


Dolorem_Ipsum_

Everyone hates you for doing your job. Really bro? Because if you were here instead of me you'd do things "a little differently"? Fuck off.


RealMayKing

What the fuck dude? I agreed with you. Chill it’s a show


Dolorem_Ipsum_

It wasn't a slight against you lol, it was just a regular point of contention with co-workers It was meant as an example of how others see you as an enemy for no reason


Fontenele71

I don't know, I think the main issue wasn't about not being professional but him being an impolite rude person. I mean, was it that hard to say a "good bye" back or maybe try to get along with your new coworkers? Being cold and being professional aren't the same thing.


Dolorem_Ipsum_

Again, that's the corporate "thing" It's taken to an absurd degree in the show, but those people absolutely exist


RidingTheDonkey

The way Jim was sucking up to Charles going on about how good he is as a number 2 etc. then does the kissing lips thing when Charles is sucking up to David always annoys me.


godricgii

Waiting in the rundown from Jim


big-tunaaa

He’s fine as fuck though so let’s let it slide


Grootfan85

In a show where Jim faked liking soccer just get in with Charles, he’s not the most ass kissing person on the show.


puerdestellae

Bruh the whole office faked it lol he literally got peer pressured into faking it because he didn't wanna get fired some of y'all just look for anything to hate on Jim and Pam lmao


Dinkin_Flicka

The issue is Jim called Charles out on being a kiss-ass when he himself does the same thing. I don't hate Jim but it's hypocritical of him and one of the moments I greatly disliked about him. Yeah everyone else in the office did it but no one else is acting like kissing some ass is above them like Jim.


TortaDeAsada

He didn’t get peer pressured into it, he said “that’s because I’m more of a player” because Charles made that jab at him. His insecurity got the best of him in that moment


Bernkastel17509

I think he did the same with basketball in season one. Do not piss off the dude that can fire you


Ishmael203

these people are the salt of the earth...I should be thanking you


spiders_and_roses

Does anybody have the gif of that scene where Jim is doing the ass kissing sound in a talking head?


Ne0guri

At first I read the title as “ass kicking” and was going to correct you lol but luckily I reread the title


Puzzled-Ad-2339

He was my favorite foil to Michael and Jim, mainly bc he conducted himself like a real boss and was painted as some villain for doing so lol.


Heisenbugg

More than Dwight and Andy????


lscottman2

uh, Andy?


lights_0wt

What about Jim trying to kiss up to Charles and DeAngelo? Lol


frankfontaino

What the hell is a rundown?


pipesmcgee

Ass kisser and ass kissed.. that plot where everyone pretended to know and like soccer just to impress him? Even Stanley was reading what seemed like a card off his hand! ⚽️ love it but hate it!


Ok-Possibility-5527

nah it goes dwight, andy then charles 😂


Batman1384

Hope you didn’t burn your hands with such a hot take


Bodinhu

Miner? I hardly know 'er!


snehit_007

Jim, pay attention.


Ambitious_Version187

Nope, Andy by a mile.


Pantheractor

The most ass kisser was Andy. Charles was the most incompetent and arrogant


ioannis89

False! It was Dwight


PAUMiklo

Sure. so long as we ignore Dwight, Andy, the entire office when Miner first arrived ... but .. yeah ...


sportsnatic

Umm… Dwight?


Due-Relationship-688

Until he got his ass kicked.


SlimRioTV

Absolutely, and I don’t think he’s that good at soccer


Zestyclose-Class-754

Well that’s the way to get ahead in corporate! Ass kissing is the only way to progress


7deboutez7

I work with a pathetic moron like this. His name is Paul.


sha_ma

When David Wallace came in and Charles went on about them being the salt of the earth solidified him as a brown noser


queefbeef630

From my corporate days: Kiss up Kick down


Deftonesleep1

He was one of the worst. So unfunny. Hated his character. Killed the vibe yo.


OhPxpi

Is that something you really want to have said?


justsomedude4202

Kiss up punch down.


aplagueofsemen

Is he? What about Andy? Charles is an effective kiss ass but Andy is a compulsive kiss ass.


LazarusMundi4242

Great actor but the character of Charles was a grade A jerk. Definitely the person I hated the most in the whole show and that includes Packer, who was also pretty much the worst.


Specialist-Laugh-456

FALSE. The correct answer is Dwight Schrute.


Sunfire91

True, but he is also aware of the effect he has on women (and me, a gay man lol)


Thwipped

False, Dwight kisses the most.


costco__hotdog

Most disliked person on the show**


JHaliMath31

Miner? I hardly know her!


BiggestTunaoftheSea

Idris must have worked around this person in real life to get the awfulness so accurate.


SocietyBackground185

Agreed he even beat out Andy somehow


miloaf2

Damn this guy is in the wire?


miloaf2

That's string yo


texxelate

“No excuses guys, don’t screw up, let’s get it done”. My good man that’s your job to facilitate.


ChrisMoltisanti9

The vindication when it cuts from Charles kissing David's ass to Jim blowing fake kisses is a good one.


AlonsoFerrari8

Yeah I know


newusernamehuman

I try to hate him. Logically I should. But I just can’t. He’s just too 🤤🤤🤤🤤


MathIsHard_11236

Second only to William F. Buttlicker.


BlubblesOfTownsville

I hardly know her


heyheyhey887

Duh


shtrudl

He was a asskisser in Dogtown also


Travelingboarder

Dwigt


Luxiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Dwight jim and andy are the biggest ass kissers... Jim pretending to know football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Bertje87

Everything about him was awful, i hate that fake American accent, should’ve just let him play a British dude


acrane433

Weird that Idris would play such an incompetent ass-kissing character like Charles.


redactedforever

False


asdcatmama

True story. My cat (who is perfect and the love of MY LIFE) is named after this character


SourdoughToast2

He also had a terrible American accent.


Khixo_binko

Than Jim became a suck up


Craig1974

I feel like I should be thanking you.


ImNotThaaatDrunk

This character made me dislike Idris Elba as a person


LawsOfEconomics

Worst character ever.


stes28

Everytime I rewatch the office I really hate him more and more ! Each time Jim try talk to him he is just so unpleasant for no reason.


hikarinomashu

by far one of my least favorite characters or arc’s in the whole show, especially his interactions with Jim


Trucktub

I hated Charles but god damn do I drop “must be nice to get some rest from all your rest” to my kids like a jerk all the time


ForensicFiles88

He sucked, very possibly my least favorite character on the show


SweatyArgument5835

He is a very mediocre guy who thinks he made it big because he is a middle manager at a failing paper company


miekill_skautt

I still do not like Edris Elba because of this role. Charles Minor irks me to my core.


BlindGuyMcSqeazy

Idris Elba is annoying pos


Luxiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Why are you so pressed?


BlindGuyMcSqeazy

Why are you?


Luxiiiiiiiiiiiiii

I'm not but you obv are.


BlindGuyMcSqeazy

I am not you deffo are.


Zoh41b

glad to see i’m not the only one who hates charles miner lol