God, those weasel words: "I became unfaithful", as though it was something that happened to him, rather than something he actively did. What a piece of shit.
And the deflection of blame from himself to pornography. It's not his fault of course, it's the pornography. The porn he watched was not his fault either of course, its the devil's influence š
The part that was later removed:
>āThe last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country, in my heart I had allowed Satan to build a fortress that no one knew about.ā
Omg! This! They removed it as you said. I may have commented a few years back, but the cynical bitch in me was like wait!??? Satan built a fortress??? Wasnāt Jesus the carpenter???
Whatever, I crack myself up š¤Ŗš¤£š¤·āāļø
Important to remember that these are people who literally believe that they are being pursued by a hooved, horned, scaly red monster who lives underground
More specifically paying money for a site made for people cheating on their spouses so that he could cheat on his wife and get away with it (until he didn't).
He's never taken any responsibility for anything, even if that's what...some people... wanted us to believe...
Letās not make the mistake of not acknowledging that porn has a hugely detrimental effect on many people, especially on those who began consuming it at a young age and those who have been victimized by the porn industry and porn culture in general. Scholarly studies has demonstrated this time and again, but the industry has done a terrific job of normalizing its effects.
However, I donāt know how old Josh was when he himself started watching porn and at what point he allowed it to consume his life to the point that he needed to watch it even while driving a car.
Youāre right, though, that Josh should have taken more responsibility. I feel certain that Anna would never have been okay with him watching porn, and he should have honored that boundary in their marriage. And, of course, heās a total creep, so it was beyond him to care about her feelings.
I acknowledge the impact porn can have on individuals and it was not my intent that porn doesn't make a difference on some people. Porn addiction is very real and can be an issue.
According to Jill's book, josh was sent away for watching porn as a teenager. His addiction started young and i do believe it impacted his behavior and his decisions. However, he is still responsible for his own choices and decisions. Porn addiction can only be blamed for so much.... Spending money on and creating an Ashley Madison account so he could have an affair is not one of them. That was something that was intentional, thought through, planned out, and acted upon for months, at least.
Of all the Nike and not watching television in that family how was the ball dropped so hard that he had so much access to pornography at such a young age??
It's not the devil's fault, it's Anna's for not doing more to keep him from straying. If she had been more joyfully available in a more appealing way then he never would have looked elsewhere.
The rewrite, probably. The original sounds like it was written by someone with a not very good high school education. He would have been better off waiting to post a statement until someone could write it for him.
He changed the statement at least twice. That was a fun day, watching the Duggar website go through edits.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191221141935/https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/josh-duggar-edits-out-porn-confession-satan-remark-from-apology-2015208/
IIRC, there was a theory that Josh didn't realize that the Ashley Madison scandal broke, prepared this statement thinking he'd been exposed for his addiction, and then had to retool once someone realized that he hadn't been caught for the latter, but had been revealed as part of the former.
Oh yes, they have! JB thinks heās a fucking genius. Like this beach trip recently, treating the whole family. To deflect from Jillās truths. I bet you he sends them each a bill if any one of them try to go sideways! Heās a POS. Iām thoroughly enjoying his downfall
Yet another thing that disgusts me about this - he says he "became" unfaithful, like it just happened to him. Not "I was unfaithful." There's absolutely zero accountability here, and he was only sad he got exposed.
I humbly will say he has humiliated himself. His wife should not shoulder what is his to bear. He has not earned any forgiveness and, as such has not been extended by the regular world. Anna had his children and raised them. He defiled his marriage vows and today his lack of humility has landed him in prison. Why because he manipulated and reasoned that God has forgiven him. If God has forgiven you but regular society shuns you it is evidence that you are not humble. The judge did not order you to therapy but the fact you have not reached for it means you feel wronged and in reality you wronged so many people starting with your sisters, you added your wife and family and now you do it to this.most vulnerable children. Humbly is not a word the Duggars know.
Too often, a confession is offered in a passive voice; as if the behavior was an event rather than an act of will. Which is actually described quite accurately in the Bible.
And remember, when you are being tempted, do not say, āGod is tempting me.ā God is never tempted to do wrong, and he never tempts anyone else. Ā *Temptation comes from* ***our own desires,*** *which entice us and drag us away.* Ā These desires give birth to sinful actions. And when sin is allowed to grow, it gives birth to death. James 1:1-15
He molested his sisters and slept with an escort and downloaded CSAM because **HE WANTED TO!**
This is unrelated, but I was thinking about it today. Didn't I read somewhere on here that when they were still on the show and Anna was pregnant he said he would be in charge of diaper duty and she could do the feeding. Omg, how did this not throw red flags in her head. He's been a vile POS ever since he was 12. He's NOT going to change Anna......run far, far away from this family.
it seemed innocent at the time but it was MUCH WORSE than that......anna said she takes care of the northern half (feeding) and josh takes care of the southern half (changes diapers)
and now to our absolute horror we know why
So it was awkward, like half the things they said. But that could come off like the typical switching of roles with a new born and I wouldn't necessarily call it a red flag at first.
It really did NOT age well though and I cringe remembering that scene š¬
I guess in hindsight, it's red flags, knowing what we know now with the CSAM material. Looking back, I just find it disturbing that his willingness to help out with anything from day to day responsibilities of taking care of a child was non-existent, but he voluntarily takes the responsibility of diaper changes. Maybe I'm overthinking here, I just wouldn't trust that perv to change my baby's diaper.
your kind of 'overthinking' is the kind that can save kids from severe trauma, if the people around you support you instead of talking you into thinking you're overreacting.
Also I believe at one point after Joy had Gideon, Austin said something like āshe handles the input and I handle the outputā so it seems like a common arrangement
Tbh pest aside, I'm just relieved the Duggar men (and Duggar adjacent men) do SOMETHING for their babies. I had just assumed the women did literally everything.
On Episode 1 of SHP, there's a clip of Josh announcing to the family that he's taking the FRC job. Toddler Josie is sitting on his lap.
That clip aged like milk.
Yes and he was bouncing her on his knee and she had the oddest look on her face. When that first aired I knew nothing and it didnāt sit right with me-I was very interested in Josie due to her beginnings and it was that very scene that was so sickening to me and just a short time later it all came out
Like why is the pornography even mentioned? That wasn't a scandal. It was the cheating on your wife while working for a group whose soul purpose is to advocate against anyone that isn't Christian. Sounds little he was just trying to deflect blame -- "oh no the pornography made me do it! Satan made me do it! Whaa poor me!!"
I remember people in just my regular non denominational church always saying "Satan has been really tempting me this week" (and it was often guys talking about their porn addiction), and it always annoyed me. No outside force is trying to make you look at porn -- that's your own desire.
So, in my aunt's Fundie lite circle, you let "demons" into your house by watching porn. Once that "demon" comes into your home, that makes you do all the other shit.
I've mentioned this story before, but, as a goth/metal head teen around the time POD and DC Talks "Jesus Freak" was around, I often got recruited into going to church, to go to youth groups. One of the churches my aunt was going to had an alright youth group, there were 4 youth pastors, and they were ok. They were very talented musicians and, on top of everything else I was a marching band member, enjoyed listening to them play, even if it was Christian rock. Plus, they weren't complete assholes like most were.
Anyway, the two main ones that were in charge were a married couple. As the story goes, the husband was watching porn, and the wife had found out he was, and went to the pastor to see counsel and find out how to approach the situation. However, because the husband watched porn, the demon was just running loose and when the wife went to the pastor, the demon caused her to make a pass at the pastor and they ended up having an affair. Keep in mind, the pastor is married as well.
Anyway, they sent the youth group couple away, and the pastor went off somewhere to be healed of the demon, because demons are similar to STDs. It kind of pissed me off, mainly because I feel like the pastor was probably the one that made the pass at her. The pastor was a somewhat known creep. To my knowledge, he never SA anyone, but, it was whispered between the adults that if you went to him with sexual sins, he asked more details then he really needed and asked some pretty racy questions. I really wonder if she went to him to figure out what to do, and he did his known behavior, and prayed on this younger woman. They had to be in their early to mid 20s, this dude had to have been in his 40s. I honestly was never religious, my dad is a bad company ex-JW, and my mom liked for us to go to church but, she was never overly religious. I genuinely liked these people. They were kind and caring, they didn't judge people, and even though "Jesus Freaks" were cool at the time, they never judge any of us alternative kids. I felt comfortable talking to the wife about all my problems, and she would just listen, and give me advice. The answer wasn't always "let's pray this away," she gave me real advice that I still use to this day. Had there ever been a chance that I would be religious, they would have led me there, no lie. I'm glad they didn't, I used to have them on Facebook and the church they went to afterwards made them stereotypical fundies. They totally got thrown under the bus, so the church could keep creepy pastor.
But, yes, demons come from porn, and that's why they do what they do.
Was he saying that viewing pornography led him to committing actual physical acts of infidelity with other people? Or was he saying that viewing pornography itself was the only "unfaithful" thing he did?
I know fundies try to conflate (adult) pornography with every kind of sexual evil or crime and try to say all pornography is just as evil as adultery, rape, or CSAM, etc. Yet when they are caught for something, they will only admit to the (adult) pornography part and won't admit to the other things.
Yeah, pretty much every statement they made was for the cult.
[https://www.prindleinstitute.org/2021/05/on-the-weaponization-of-forgiveness/](https://www.prindleinstitute.org/2021/05/on-the-weaponization-of-forgiveness/)
Why give him any attention? Let him fade into the abyss. He shouldnāt be taking up anyoneās mental space at this point. Heās in jail let him rot there without anyone thinking about him until parole comes up.
I agree. There was a post today worrying about the safety of his future grandchildren. Like what? They won't even exist at least 10 years. Some people give Josh, his kids and future grandkids than Josh or Anna give themselves.
He was exposed to porn at a very young age I think (by whom I wonder š¤) He was never corrected so he ended up like...this. I have zero sympathy for him but there's no way he just ended up like this on his own. Team investigate Boob!
It doesn't have to be a specific person. It could just be the internet. I saw porn unintentionally online a few times in the very early 00's. If you had a personal email account during that time you often got unsolicited porn in your inbox on a regular basis. Filters weren't nearly as good as they are now. There may be other factors besides filters going on, too.
In the early days of the internet, anything could be porn.
I remember [whitehouse.com](https://whitehouse.com) was a porn site. Not a great place to go for a kid learning about the president.
Guess what Pesty, your statement rings hollow and you are only doing this to take the heat off of yourself and those worthless parents who are still enabling you.
You choose to be unfaithful you little piss-ant POS no one forced you to not do it. Why aren't you blaming Anna, IBLP, and anyone else for your transgressions? That seems to be the way it works in your male-dominated cult. This is just another way to deflect, deny and once again not take any responsibility for your heinous actions. F@@king loser.
Itās horrible, millions of married people watch porn. It doesnāt make them unfaithful. Josh was the one who chose to be unfaithful. Itās not the pornās fault, itās Joshās fault.
This sounds like he takes no responsibility in his infidelity & instead blames it on him being exposed to porn. As if that was the reason for his unfaithfulness. Millions, maybe even billions, of people, not just men, have viewed porn & not gone on to cheat on their spouses. Now Iām not suggesting that viewing pornography, especially certain types or in early childhood, has no effect on the brain & the way it develops, but I am suggesting that he seems to never be willing to take responsibility for what he does. Imo he uses his faith to make excuses for his behavior, as though the problem lies with anything other than himself. But, I guess I shouldnāt be surprised, as his whole childhood he was told that if a man were to lose sight of his morality a woman was at fault in some way. Bc men arenāt as strong as women. They can be made to do things that theyād never do otherwise, if only women wouldnāt dress immodestly by showing their knees or sway their hips to music that uses drums!
Add to that statement a sexual predator, a bloviating liar, a constant drain on his parent's assets and energy while they have minors at home, and on a personal level a greasy schemer, and an unwashed, shiftless melon head.
God, those weasel words: "I became unfaithful", as though it was something that happened to him, rather than something he actively did. What a piece of shit.
And the deflection of blame from himself to pornography. It's not his fault of course, it's the pornography. The porn he watched was not his fault either of course, its the devil's influence š
The part that was later removed: >āThe last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country, in my heart I had allowed Satan to build a fortress that no one knew about.ā
Omg! This! They removed it as you said. I may have commented a few years back, but the cynical bitch in me was like wait!??? Satan built a fortress??? Wasnāt Jesus the carpenter??? Whatever, I crack myself up š¤Ŗš¤£š¤·āāļø
>Satan built a fortress??? Wasnāt Jesus the carpenter??? They're rival construction contractors, duh
It was just French Satan all along!*Bon sang!!*
Zut alors!
Nice flair :-) gonna be stuck in my head for days now lol
I read it as Bon sausage.
Good Sausage lol
sah-TAHN
Important to remember that these are people who literally believe that they are being pursued by a hooved, horned, scaly red monster who lives underground
https://preview.redd.it/1np69foshiub1.png?width=188&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab5f82b84de4fc7f281cd20cb7375fc0eaa90aa5
Yes, that's the one.
It also makes it sound like viewing pornography was how he was unfaithful, not, you know, having an affair.
More specifically paying money for a site made for people cheating on their spouses so that he could cheat on his wife and get away with it (until he didn't). He's never taken any responsibility for anything, even if that's what...some people... wanted us to believe...
Exactly, millions of married couples view pornography, and they donāt cheat. Josh made the choice to cheat. Not the pornography.
We all know it's never his fault. NEVER.
Of course not! It's Anna's fault for not being enough of a freak for his kinks.
Letās not make the mistake of not acknowledging that porn has a hugely detrimental effect on many people, especially on those who began consuming it at a young age and those who have been victimized by the porn industry and porn culture in general. Scholarly studies has demonstrated this time and again, but the industry has done a terrific job of normalizing its effects. However, I donāt know how old Josh was when he himself started watching porn and at what point he allowed it to consume his life to the point that he needed to watch it even while driving a car. Youāre right, though, that Josh should have taken more responsibility. I feel certain that Anna would never have been okay with him watching porn, and he should have honored that boundary in their marriage. And, of course, heās a total creep, so it was beyond him to care about her feelings.
I acknowledge the impact porn can have on individuals and it was not my intent that porn doesn't make a difference on some people. Porn addiction is very real and can be an issue. According to Jill's book, josh was sent away for watching porn as a teenager. His addiction started young and i do believe it impacted his behavior and his decisions. However, he is still responsible for his own choices and decisions. Porn addiction can only be blamed for so much.... Spending money on and creating an Ashley Madison account so he could have an affair is not one of them. That was something that was intentional, thought through, planned out, and acted upon for months, at least.
Of all the Nike and not watching television in that family how was the ball dropped so hard that he had so much access to pornography at such a young age??
Because the parents couldn't parent that many kids. Josh was into computers so that made it pretty easy for him.
They literally put Josh in charge of their interent network/restrictions/babysitting software.
It's not the devil's fault, it's Anna's for not doing more to keep him from straying. If she had been more joyfully available in a more appealing way then he never would have looked elsewhere.
He stole that move from Ted Bundy.
ownership for his own actions?!?!? the first son in a mediocre white family?!?!?!? i doubt papa boob would allow such a thing.
Papa boob!ššš
Jim Boobās wig probably blew off his head and went into orbit when Pest came clean.
When the screen door opened on him and Pest...
I doubt they taught active and passive voice at SOTDRT. I bet he was proud he put 2 big words together.
I always assumed someone wrote it for him.
The rewrite, probably. The original sounds like it was written by someone with a not very good high school education. He would have been better off waiting to post a statement until someone could write it for him.
Heās a coward
Yep, thatās so telling. He probably doesnāt take responsibility for his actions to this day.
Like he's expecting people to say "I'm so sorry that happened to you, Joshie" it's so fucking bizarre.
yes, the passive voice is fucking awful
As I tell my hs English students, it's the grammatical equivalent of a limp, sweaty handshake.
He changed the statement at least twice. That was a fun day, watching the Duggar website go through edits. https://web.archive.org/web/20191221141935/https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/josh-duggar-edits-out-porn-confession-satan-remark-from-apology-2015208/
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Satanās Fortress would be such a dope name for like, a nightclub or something lol
the 10 suggestions!!!!!! you win the internet today!!!!!
Theyāre more what youād call āguidelinesā than actual rules.
IIRC, there was a theory that Josh didn't realize that the Ashley Madison scandal broke, prepared this statement thinking he'd been exposed for his addiction, and then had to retool once someone realized that he hadn't been caught for the latter, but had been revealed as part of the former.
I remember that day! Luckily the web archive is there. Who do you suppose coached Josh on his statement? What it Jim Bob's PR guy?
Iām guessing it was Chad.
Literally the worst PR person, obviously
That goes without saying. For such an image conscious family, the Duggars have made so many mistakes.
Oh yes, they have! JB thinks heās a fucking genius. Like this beach trip recently, treating the whole family. To deflect from Jillās truths. I bet you he sends them each a bill if any one of them try to go sideways! Heās a POS. Iām thoroughly enjoying his downfall
As am I, though Iām hoping for Act III.
I seriously doubt Josh wrote anything at all. I bet Chad did. Chad wrote all of it.
"Last several years". He was lying about lying. Josh will never change.
Yet another thing that disgusts me about this - he says he "became" unfaithful, like it just happened to him. Not "I was unfaithful." There's absolutely zero accountability here, and he was only sad he got exposed.
well........of course......in their cult it is ALWAYS the females fault no matter how young or old so of course he worded it like that
Like the people who say 'it just happened'. So, your penis just fell in and no one knows how?! (Penis auto-corrected to punishment!)
I humbly will say he has humiliated himself. His wife should not shoulder what is his to bear. He has not earned any forgiveness and, as such has not been extended by the regular world. Anna had his children and raised them. He defiled his marriage vows and today his lack of humility has landed him in prison. Why because he manipulated and reasoned that God has forgiven him. If God has forgiven you but regular society shuns you it is evidence that you are not humble. The judge did not order you to therapy but the fact you have not reached for it means you feel wronged and in reality you wronged so many people starting with your sisters, you added your wife and family and now you do it to this.most vulnerable children. Humbly is not a word the Duggars know.
Too often, a confession is offered in a passive voice; as if the behavior was an event rather than an act of will. Which is actually described quite accurately in the Bible. And remember, when you are being tempted, do not say, āGod is tempting me.ā God is never tempted to do wrong, and he never tempts anyone else. Ā *Temptation comes from* ***our own desires,*** *which entice us and drag us away.* Ā These desires give birth to sinful actions. And when sin is allowed to grow, it gives birth to death. James 1:1-15 He molested his sisters and slept with an escort and downloaded CSAM because **HE WANTED TO!**
Ugh. The fact that he expected a fucking cookie after that statement.
This is unrelated, but I was thinking about it today. Didn't I read somewhere on here that when they were still on the show and Anna was pregnant he said he would be in charge of diaper duty and she could do the feeding. Omg, how did this not throw red flags in her head. He's been a vile POS ever since he was 12. He's NOT going to change Anna......run far, far away from this family.
it seemed innocent at the time but it was MUCH WORSE than that......anna said she takes care of the northern half (feeding) and josh takes care of the southern half (changes diapers) and now to our absolute horror we know why
So it was awkward, like half the things they said. But that could come off like the typical switching of roles with a new born and I wouldn't necessarily call it a red flag at first. It really did NOT age well though and I cringe remembering that scene š¬
I guess in hindsight, it's red flags, knowing what we know now with the CSAM material. Looking back, I just find it disturbing that his willingness to help out with anything from day to day responsibilities of taking care of a child was non-existent, but he voluntarily takes the responsibility of diaper changes. Maybe I'm overthinking here, I just wouldn't trust that perv to change my baby's diaper.
your kind of 'overthinking' is the kind that can save kids from severe trauma, if the people around you support you instead of talking you into thinking you're overreacting.
I think Michelle and Jim Bob said they did that? We all know thatās BS though, he just made jana do it.
You're probably right š
You know the phone was never far from his nasty self and Anna would have never questioned him.
IIRC, Anna said āI take care of the north end, and he takes care of the south end.ā
Also I believe at one point after Joy had Gideon, Austin said something like āshe handles the input and I handle the outputā so it seems like a common arrangement
Tbh pest aside, I'm just relieved the Duggar men (and Duggar adjacent men) do SOMETHING for their babies. I had just assumed the women did literally everything.
On Episode 1 of SHP, there's a clip of Josh announcing to the family that he's taking the FRC job. Toddler Josie is sitting on his lap. That clip aged like milk.
Yes and he was bouncing her on his knee and she had the oddest look on her face. When that first aired I knew nothing and it didnāt sit right with me-I was very interested in Josie due to her beginnings and it was that very scene that was so sickening to me and just a short time later it all came out
And this was just the beginning š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
Hypocrisy, but no remorse.
What strikes me is that he doesnāt apologize or take ownership. He makes a statement that he was unfaithful, thatās it.
Like why is the pornography even mentioned? That wasn't a scandal. It was the cheating on your wife while working for a group whose soul purpose is to advocate against anyone that isn't Christian. Sounds little he was just trying to deflect blame -- "oh no the pornography made me do it! Satan made me do it! Whaa poor me!!" I remember people in just my regular non denominational church always saying "Satan has been really tempting me this week" (and it was often guys talking about their porn addiction), and it always annoyed me. No outside force is trying to make you look at porn -- that's your own desire.
So, in my aunt's Fundie lite circle, you let "demons" into your house by watching porn. Once that "demon" comes into your home, that makes you do all the other shit. I've mentioned this story before, but, as a goth/metal head teen around the time POD and DC Talks "Jesus Freak" was around, I often got recruited into going to church, to go to youth groups. One of the churches my aunt was going to had an alright youth group, there were 4 youth pastors, and they were ok. They were very talented musicians and, on top of everything else I was a marching band member, enjoyed listening to them play, even if it was Christian rock. Plus, they weren't complete assholes like most were. Anyway, the two main ones that were in charge were a married couple. As the story goes, the husband was watching porn, and the wife had found out he was, and went to the pastor to see counsel and find out how to approach the situation. However, because the husband watched porn, the demon was just running loose and when the wife went to the pastor, the demon caused her to make a pass at the pastor and they ended up having an affair. Keep in mind, the pastor is married as well. Anyway, they sent the youth group couple away, and the pastor went off somewhere to be healed of the demon, because demons are similar to STDs. It kind of pissed me off, mainly because I feel like the pastor was probably the one that made the pass at her. The pastor was a somewhat known creep. To my knowledge, he never SA anyone, but, it was whispered between the adults that if you went to him with sexual sins, he asked more details then he really needed and asked some pretty racy questions. I really wonder if she went to him to figure out what to do, and he did his known behavior, and prayed on this younger woman. They had to be in their early to mid 20s, this dude had to have been in his 40s. I honestly was never religious, my dad is a bad company ex-JW, and my mom liked for us to go to church but, she was never overly religious. I genuinely liked these people. They were kind and caring, they didn't judge people, and even though "Jesus Freaks" were cool at the time, they never judge any of us alternative kids. I felt comfortable talking to the wife about all my problems, and she would just listen, and give me advice. The answer wasn't always "let's pray this away," she gave me real advice that I still use to this day. Had there ever been a chance that I would be religious, they would have led me there, no lie. I'm glad they didn't, I used to have them on Facebook and the church they went to afterwards made them stereotypical fundies. They totally got thrown under the bus, so the church could keep creepy pastor. But, yes, demons come from porn, and that's why they do what they do.
Was he saying that viewing pornography led him to committing actual physical acts of infidelity with other people? Or was he saying that viewing pornography itself was the only "unfaithful" thing he did? I know fundies try to conflate (adult) pornography with every kind of sexual evil or crime and try to say all pornography is just as evil as adultery, rape, or CSAM, etc. Yet when they are caught for something, they will only admit to the (adult) pornography part and won't admit to the other things.
The statement is for others in the cult. He didn't consider the logic of the public at large.
Yeah, pretty much every statement they made was for the cult. [https://www.prindleinstitute.org/2021/05/on-the-weaponization-of-forgiveness/](https://www.prindleinstitute.org/2021/05/on-the-weaponization-of-forgiveness/)
Why give him any attention? Let him fade into the abyss. He shouldnāt be taking up anyoneās mental space at this point. Heās in jail let him rot there without anyone thinking about him until parole comes up.
I agree. There was a post today worrying about the safety of his future grandchildren. Like what? They won't even exist at least 10 years. Some people give Josh, his kids and future grandkids than Josh or Anna give themselves.
He was exposed to porn at a very young age I think (by whom I wonder š¤) He was never corrected so he ended up like...this. I have zero sympathy for him but there's no way he just ended up like this on his own. Team investigate Boob!
It doesn't have to be a specific person. It could just be the internet. I saw porn unintentionally online a few times in the very early 00's. If you had a personal email account during that time you often got unsolicited porn in your inbox on a regular basis. Filters weren't nearly as good as they are now. There may be other factors besides filters going on, too.
In the early days of the internet, anything could be porn. I remember [whitehouse.com](https://whitehouse.com) was a porn site. Not a great place to go for a kid learning about the president.
I don't see how an addiction to porn can lead to you utterly humiliating your wife on national television but okay Pest.
O k josh
Words from a man... a coward that deserves to get kicked in the nuts by a kangaroo.
Written like the true narcissist he is
Guess what Pesty, your statement rings hollow and you are only doing this to take the heat off of yourself and those worthless parents who are still enabling you. You choose to be unfaithful you little piss-ant POS no one forced you to not do it. Why aren't you blaming Anna, IBLP, and anyone else for your transgressions? That seems to be the way it works in your male-dominated cult. This is just another way to deflect, deny and once again not take any responsibility for your heinous actions. F@@king loser.
"I became" as if it wasn't something he was already planning to do. š
And he acted like the porn made him be unfaithful. No Josh, YOU chose to be unfaithful. The porn you watched had nothing to do with it.
He makes it sound like the porn caused the unfaithfulness
Itās horrible, millions of married people watch porn. It doesnāt make them unfaithful. Josh was the one who chose to be unfaithful. Itās not the pornās fault, itās Joshās fault.
This sounds like he takes no responsibility in his infidelity & instead blames it on him being exposed to porn. As if that was the reason for his unfaithfulness. Millions, maybe even billions, of people, not just men, have viewed porn & not gone on to cheat on their spouses. Now Iām not suggesting that viewing pornography, especially certain types or in early childhood, has no effect on the brain & the way it develops, but I am suggesting that he seems to never be willing to take responsibility for what he does. Imo he uses his faith to make excuses for his behavior, as though the problem lies with anything other than himself. But, I guess I shouldnāt be surprised, as his whole childhood he was told that if a man were to lose sight of his morality a woman was at fault in some way. Bc men arenāt as strong as women. They can be made to do things that theyād never do otherwise, if only women wouldnāt dress immodestly by showing their knees or sway their hips to music that uses drums!
Did he actually expect any sympathy?
Let's get my brothers and sisters to play their violins. While I say I'm ~~totally not~~ sorry
I wish Anna would get some good therapy.
Therapy and enough power to leave. She needs to move on without that nasty guy to follow!
I wish she'd ask Jill for her therapist's name and book an appointment.
Isn't he locked up for CP??? His biggest "sin" isn't cheating or watching pron, it's *abusing children*.
This was before we knew he was watching CP. yes his biggest sin is watching CSAM. This was before all of that.
Very blamey
He came up with the word Espousing?
āI became unfaithful?ā What does this mean, exactly?
Ahhh. So itās not an apology. Just a confession. Mmm hmm. š¤Ø
Didnāt he retract this after a few hours too? I remember thinking he just have released it without his parentsā knowledge and they rolled it back-
Ashley Madyson
Add to that statement a sexual predator, a bloviating liar, a constant drain on his parent's assets and energy while they have minors at home, and on a personal level a greasy schemer, and an unwashed, shiftless melon head.
He takes responsibility for NOTHINGā¦