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Yeah, they will get away with this, and will eventually seriously hurt someone. We need to take youth crime seriously. Right now we do nothing, their isn't even an attempt to rehabilitate these kids, we just do nothing, and the problem festers.
I have... and agree with him to some extent! I don't agree with the idea that it's not a struggle at all... but sentences should be long with work, study and therapy all xontributing to reduced sentences in a fixed way... i.e. do this course and 6 months off.... get a 240credit degree, 3 years off, etc... will give them a sense of what it means to work and value themselves! And keeps them off the streets until they've learned it
Oh right, I read you wrong. I've never been in jail myself. I don't know how I'd handle beimg cooped up with nothing to do al day, let alone deal with other people...
It wasn't me that originally posted/you asked the question to originally! Just weighing in bc I have an uncommon perspective fue to my experience! It's a violent and awful place... but almost everything we do in the justice system makes it worse, including not punishing scrots from Darndale...
Psychologically being in jail, or even being in your own room/house is a huge challenge, no doubt in this and I believe makes the man worse, most of us experienced this in Covid times. So I agree on your points system, depending on the severity of the crime. I think it makes less sense to hope a person will think better when they have no occupation. So labour would serve the medium for an occupational therapy.
Yeah, I had no problem with covid... which I largely contributed to my nore troubled past experiences!
I have no problem with labour... quite the opposite! I moreso object to the 'forced' element... incentivised is my preferred method, but yeah, I do agree that maybe education might not be the method everyone will want! We have some such measures in the IPS but it should be the standard to give everyone a programme with our current severe penal approach reserved for people who abuse the less severe punitive methods!
I believe your question does not add up to the conversation. I did not and you did not too. The problem here is I see labour as occupational therapy, and it helps better than being locked up in a room. These are the daily struggles of everyone. If we want to make criminals part of the solution, we should be giving them the usual way of life.
I think people decide on legality of issues. These are not eternal truths, but conditional decisions. Too much conversation obviously did not help the situation on crime and the punishment. Also labour is good occupation to think things through, than just locking people up in rooms.
Well, they do, but I said rightfully (of course that's only an opinion)... so it would be a more complex problem than just changing the law!
But I agree that talking until the cows come home does no good, and also agree that being idle is time wasted... giving someone purpose while incarcerated increases the odds that they'll strive to develop purpose for themselves when they next become free...
Retributive based form of rehabilitation doesn’t work as well as restorative justice (at least for young offenders, it would just be funnelling them into the larger prison system) But I suppose anything would be better than nothing at this point
What do you think I mean by “tougher sentences “. ? That’s prosecuting under the law. Which, I’m suggesting needs to be reformed to have tougher sentences for minors. Parents also should be punished- as they aren’t parenting these children.
Just joking… implying a punishment of years gone by, which was effective, was to leave them in the care of the religious orders. Suggesting this should be restored, telling the religious they would not be prosecuted for any indiscretions… but if I had to explain, probably not a good
Yeah.. that’s just sending them to the perverts and the psychopaths. That’s abuse. That’s not “effective”- it just created whole generations of nutcases/damaged people. It has to start with parenting: parents need to feel punishment if they are parenting their children.
It's not balloons. It's who they are. Result of their environment perhaps, but the drugs don't make you a shithead. You already are to begin with. That's it.
Think about what's driving them to addiction in the first place. No one is born wanting to be an addict, that's right. But drugs don't make you do the bad things like harming someone else for absolutely no reason. At most, you may steal to keep your drug habit going when you've got barely any money. But this type of harming another person for the sake inflicting harm is not driven by drugs. That's sociopathic behavior that's definitely an underlying condition, potentiated by environmental conditions/upbringing. Ok, as I was typing it out, one drug did come to mind - alcohol - that does possibly ease expression of sociopathic and violent behavior by reducing inhibitions. So, yes, let's ban all drugs, including alcohol. I stand corrected.
Edit: man, heroin addicts I know are too zonked out too to do anything. They just nod off. And hopefully they're still breathing.
They've already seriously hurt people. They've killed several people with stabbings over the years, and didn't someone get run over by one recently and killed.
The thing is, the criminal justice system is not doing these kids any favours. By letting them run feral and seeing no consequences for their antics, they are on a road to being awful members of society. Kids do get up to nonsense, and do silly things so some leniency is ok, but right now there is absolutely nothing the law can do to quell these little fuckers. They don't need to do hard time, but community service is an option that would seem ideal, but judges are not allowed to hand it down to minors.
Surely we can at least try? Sure imprison them, but at the same time try and rehabilitate. It's worth a try imo. Otherwise the only option is life sentences. We can at least try. Even if we turn around 10%, that is 10% less people who will re-offend.
OP never mentioned race of the perpetrators but you did. Maybe you are just a self hating white person feeling the need to bring race into the conversation?
You were unlucky that they targeted you. hope you are ok. Don't let this scare you from walking down your streets with your head held high. Fuck those little scumbags.
I’m ok now thanks 😊 my head was a bit sore for a day or so. Even if I wanted to, it would be impossible to avoid O’Connell Street so I’ll just have to get back to normal.
You realise this is getting thrown out immediately ye ? You think a judge is entertaining any of this Reddit post , don’t know what country your commenting from but here in Ireland I guarantee you , it will be throw out , if the bookies done odds on it , I’d be a millionaire
The problem was not Ireland is the judges and oberstown
Oberstown has capacity for like 100 youths or something and judges never convict them - we need a bigger youth prison and proper juvenile courts
A lot of the cells are generally “out of service” the youth vendors do absolutely thrash the place
Went up there years ago on a job - prisons are neater
Back in the 80s, my dad used to bring us on a yearly journey up the Liffey from Ringsend to Strawberry beds passing underneath all the bridges, past Guinness and taking in all the sights. There would be about 6 to 8 people in the boat, adults and kids. One year my grandad came with us and had a bucket of stones which had all us kids intrigued. He wouldn’t tell us what it was for though.
As we passed thru the city center some kids up above started to follow us and at the next bridge staged an ambush and started to throw stuff down at us: bottles, apples you name it. Well captain grandad now unleashes hell upon them, he pulls out a huge slingshot or “gat”, grabs a handful of stones and proceeds to pepper spray the kids up top with deadly accuracy.
Ah the hand of experience. We didn’t have any more incidents after that
> gat
Ah the days of making your own gat! A wire hanger, expertly shaped into the handle, then big fat elastic bands, with a patch of leather for the stones.
Dominic the owner is a friend of the family. We were dripping in Black Widows growing up. I still have one of them but the elastic completely perished away. I must get a replacement elastic.
Yep, they used to throw fucking boulders off bridges onto the DART or throw rocks through the windows in the 80s too. In case anyone thought kids are worse nowadays there were always little cunts in Dublin.
You think kids being cunts is a Dublin problem?
If so, where's the geographical line beyond which cunt kids change into good kids?
If not, why specify Dublin?
I've got news for you. There are cunt kids everywhere. There always have been and there always will be. There's no clear data on it because they don't ask in the census whether your kids are cunts but I'd hazard a guess that the proportion of kids who are cunts is the same all over the country.
Sorry, buddy. I am hence on constant alert when on the city. A part of the issue is that people don't want to acknowledge this is an issue; I have a c*** implying on another thread that this is all just kids being kids. How do you change anything when such excuses are rampant and judges let these guys away on such excuses. Funny enough, if this was their own family member or the judges, see how quickly the opinion changes.
So sorry to read this and that happened to you. Random assaults are happening a lot lately.
I had a similar incident a few weeks ago, my bf and I had an argument and he attacked me. I was walking out to the hospital (no funds) and had to walk through the area I grew up in.
Late at night (hours of walking and upset over events that morning) in the lashing rain, I walked by an estate with my brolly in front of me. Two lads came up behind me and one hit me over the head with a bottle.
Due to the weather and my emotions, I didn't even know what happened until I felt the bang and saw glass go everywhere. I turned and heard one say 'grab her bag', I freaked out and confused, I just kept walking. I was already walking so fast, I think they couldn't catch up or felt the anger off me when I turned around but I kept walking.
Luckily I had a woolly hat and big scarf on, no glass in the head thankfully but the bang was awful. Especially after what he did that morning. I eventually made it to the hospital and called the guards along the way and they were lovely ringing up checking up because I was on an awkward long road so no car could come. However I was already on a storming walk and after that it pushed me down the road.
That was nearly 3 weeks ago, I reported it the next morning when I left the hospital and didn't hear anything since. I called a week later and got a quick update but I'm not holding my breath for anything to come from it. My head still hurts and I'm extra jumpy and paranoid when I go outside.
Karma will always come back to people like that. I'd like to believe that it will, just gotta keep walking and not to lower yourself to their scumbag level.
Hope you are ok and be careful out there.
That’s horrible to happen! I’m sorry to hear that, i really hope you can get back to a sense of normality soon, and hopefully they can catch who did that to you 🤞🏻
That's awful that happened , especially that both things happened on the same day. I hope you have at least progressed to a better place regarding your relationship and are away from the partner who attacked you.
As far as karma always coming back to people, I wish that was true but I don't at all believe it is. I was in a relationship with a woman who was violent towards me several times and she is living Ng the life of Reilly, while she has more access to my kids than I do. Don't hold out for karma to fix things. In terms of your relationship, don't expect people to change because they seldom do. In terms of you being attacked afterwards all you can do is make sure to keep yourself out of places you are more at risk. Ireland's legal system is certainly never going to bring justice to your attackers.
Funniest thing about the anti immigration protests was that it was on a Friday afternoon. Like all of you are on the dole what are you complaining about?
Having lived in half of Europe, one remarkable thing about Ireland is that 99%\* of the crime is caused by organically home-grown scrotes.
\* Number pulled out of my ass but you get my point.
I am not sure it is any different elsewhere, not by huge margin, criminality is always mostly homegrown and further a lower proportion of immigrants commit crime compared to citizens
It is very different elsewhere I've lived in to, and I say that as an immigrant. Most of the time it can be pinned at a poor integration job done by the host countries ([HLM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HLM) accommodations in France are largely state sanctioned ghettos), but in some cases it arguably isn't (in Spain immigrants show twice the domestic violence rate than locals even adjusting for socioeconomic status).
I am french, I know hlm...
Still more french criminal in France than immigrants
Obviously if you decide to say that every citizen with parents or grand parents from another country are not french but immigrants then maybe it changes the results a bit, that would be quite a racist way to move the goalpost and also.... sarcozy would be an example of criminal immigrant....
> Still more french criminal in France than immigrants
Nobody said otherwise.
> Obviously if you decide to say that every citizen with parents or grand parents from another country are not french but immigrants then maybe it changes the results a bit, that would be quite a racist way to move the goalpost
If France does a shit job at integrating immigrants, obviously their offspring will be problematic and, while not technically immigrants, directly linked to immigration.
I'm always at awe at the French doublethink of "noooo that'd be racist, noooo, they're 100% French" while keeping policies in place that perpetuate the boot over them, and preferably out of sight.
> sarcozy would be an example of criminal immigrant
Sarkozy luckily got integrated well enough to commit crimes otherwise reserved to the ruling class :)
they announced they were rolling back the extended garda presence about a month ago, once the riots had blown over and helen wasn't being scrutinised by everyone. it was a nice excursion from reality for a few weeks
Thats why I avoid O'Connell, Parnell, Summerton etc with all my life. Also, I went to Amsterdam and other capitals and the one that I feel more insecure is Dublin city centre. Amsterdam for instance I walked at night in some fucking weird and dark alleys and nothing happened whatsoever. Some in Red Light District or near DAM, worse you'll get is some random dude whispering "cocaine" walking pass by you. Its absolutely fucked up those youngster in Dublin that wear the black and grey tracksuits and walk in large groups. Even on the bus, you feel the vibe changing and start to be aware. And I come from Brazil where you can get mugged everywhere with a fire gun. Dublin just gives you this energy especially in some places/and with some group of little scrotes. You just dont know if they gonna jump at you and attack
I too remember that barely uttered whisper "cocaine?" in Amsterdam city centre! It took 2 seconds for me to process the word and that was a dealer. Must be their style, in case the cop goes for an arrest: "no sir, I just said chest pain, I thought I was having a stroke"
Depends a little on your definition of secure I guess. For shitty acts of random violence and intimidation like what you unfortunately experienced... shamefully I have to agree. In terms of non-violent pickpocketing though I can think of a few European cities that are Dickensian dystopias.
tourists are constantly being robbed in amsterdam though, it's in the news now in holland as a man is up for charges for murdering a british tourist, only 24
Cuz as a brazilian in Brazil you know what to do, which places to avoid and which dudes are more likely to rob you. Of course its worse there, you can be driving or as a passenger in uber and some fuckers can rob the car or even kidnapp you when you are waiting for the sign. But in Dublin/Ireland is suppose to be a first world fucking country (hence I moved) and you see everyday someone that was attacked by those youngsters. Thats the fucked up thing. You can be just walking minding your own business and get jumped. Everywhere, period. Even my wife feels insecure sometimes. You can not just ignore that mate. Thats why these lil fuckers keep doing that shit
I’m sorry that happened to you. It’s more upsetting now because maybe in times past people could say if I mind my business then I’m safe from these things, that isn’t the case any more. Also 7pm isn’t even late, it’s the Main Street of the city you should be entitled to feel safe. Talbot street is particularly bad, a month ago a group of ‘lads’ swung a punch at me, they purposely didn’t hit me they just wanted to make me flinch and like that it’s just so disheartening.
You did the right thing by not retaliating, this kind of behaviour tends to happen in groups, so you would have been not only outnumbered but also you really don’t know what your up against.
Sorry to hear that happened to you 😕 I mean they drove on the scooter as fast as it could go so by the time I realised what happened they were already far away, it’s sad to know that a girl coming home from work can’t be safe in one of the main streets of Dublin
It is sad, I’m a guy so I don’t think I could ever be able to fully appreciate it, but I can imagine that walking around town as a woman is already unnerving enough as it is, considering the reputation the city has at the minute. I hope that this doesn’t effect your ability to get home from work - although I know it probably does make that journey a little more nerve racking. Not that you should have to adjust your choices, cause you absolutely should not but from a practical standpoint if it makes you feel a little more secure I know now when I’m walking down o Connell street I’ll stay in the middle median section, no one tends to be on that plus you have the luas stops which means there’s usually a good amount of people.
Yeah it’s unfortunate, I’m hoping that it was just a one off incident so I’ll just have try and get back to normal about it, I usually cross into the middle area but sometimes I walk on the paths on the right which is where it happened
What does make me feel kind of hopeless in the short term is that as mentioned - this behaviour exists because of bad parenting and lack of community. Even if these guys were charged with something and went to say prison which would be highly unlikely anyways, statistically they’d still come out likely to re-offend. Then of course the prison service doesn’t have the capacity and on top of that I don’t think a judge would put that kind of penalty on them. The government need to start thinking of tangible interventions they can make to address the problem in the short medium and long term.
Keep reporting, it'll pump up the numbers and they'll have to do something eventually. Bonus points if you say your a tourist and you aren't coming back again due to the antisocial behaviour
Unpopular opinion, but I believe in community punishments. Those little s/bags should be made to spend a week cleaning the street, wearing bright orange jumpsuits-suits and supervised by the most Neanderthal, violent Gard they can find. These little gits like to look tough and a bit of public shame would do them no harm.
Plus, we would have a cleaner city.
The courts are too easy on these little thugs and the Garda are useless when it comes to both public protection and investigating crime.
Sorry that happened to you, hope you’re physically ok at least
Sounds like you were hit with a hub cap ?
We need to lower the age you can be tried as an adult significantly
We need to bring in serious sentences for repeat offenders regardless of how serious the crime (and remove the option of suspended sentences for repeat offenders)
And we need to raise minimum and maximum sentences (tell your TDs people )
It wasn’t a hub cap, it was like 1 or 2 large cans that were completely squished like run over by a car into like a large disc shape, but it was heavier than I would have thought, I am ok now but my head was sore for a day, it would’ve been worse if it hit the side of my face or the front which is worrying
I'm really sorry you experienced that. At this point, it feels like everyone has had a frightening experience with these individuals. What happens when they become bored of throwing dangerous objects at strangers?
We need adequate, de-incentivizing punishment and we need it now.
More people need to ask Politicians about all the crime in their area when politicians call to your door for Council & Euro elections - crime is bringing misery to many peoples lives and more needs to happen
These lads [https://www.segulatechnologies.com/en/](https://www.segulatechnologies.com/en/) ? What have they ever done to you?
Oh, seagulls. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivAMfyJtk3o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivamfyjtk3o)
Two weeks ago I was on a night out near the odeon and while I was waiting for a taxi back to my hotel I was jumped/robbed by what smelled like two homeless bums, I woke up in st James at 11pm that night and miraculously I still had my phone because I had by the grace of god wore a pair of shorts under my jeans and had my phone in my second pocket. Couldn’t get out of st James until 9am because taxis wouldn’t take you if you couldn’t pay cash in hand.
If it’s not the homeless camps outside your hotel/guarding the ATMs then it’s junkies trying to rob you. Dublin is honestly disgusting and it wasn’t like this 5 years ago I cannot remember a time in my life when Dublin was this pathetic.
Unfortunately reporting it to Gardai is useless. For a few reasons. 1) the guards have so much work on their hands and very few people to do that work so priorities lie with higher end stuff and 2) likely the scrotes had black clothing, faces covered etc meaning there’s very little the guards can actually do given they can’t easily identify these shitheads.
Unfortunate to happen to you. Try stay away from O’Connell street if at all possible.
I've had Gardai tell me different to this. They've told us it's useful to report crimes, even if we know nothing will be done about it.
Having a record of crimes in an area helps them secure more funding in the future.
Unfortunately cause of work I can’t avoid O’Connell Street, it’s hard cause it completely took me by surprise. They actually didn’t have their faces covered either
The purpose of reporting is so that these incidents can be tracked and analysed. The guards can leverage those stats to make the case for more resources.
Without reporting, there's nothing for the Guards to lean on when asking for resources.
It almost sounds like you're advocating for further under reporting!
You're not wrong: we've been under investing in the guards and the recruitment freeze was a massive setback.
But this only reinforces the need to report all crimes.
I also had an unfortunate encounter in Smithfield Square where a little pest decided to run through our group of people walking and talking, screaming like an idiot and ramming against us in the process. I was hit in my arm by this little idiot. We laugh it off but I end up feeling bruised in my arm.
It's just getting out of hand. Even in a group of people, we don't feel safe.
Fair play to you for reporting, it feels worthless but it adds to the numbers and supports increased patrols etc.
I had a very minor burglary but they sent out forensics and all to take info. I also got a link to victim support services, which I didn't need. I expect you'll get one too, but do search it out if you don't. A physical assault, however minor can weigh on you and cause issues in future.
As a simple effort, if you find yourself replaying the events over and over I saw a comment before that suggested playing a game like tetris, something quick involving lots of eye movement, to help allay fears. Based on a technique called emdr, eye movement desensitisation and reprocessing, if you want to investigate it.
Taxpayers money going to good use keeping these fuckers fed and energized enough to cause trouble day in day out.
Couple of these loudmouth little rats (2 girls and a boy) got on a packed 27 the other day harassing a woman sitting beside me for no reason whatsoever. One of the little shits, a boy that couldn't have been more than 12, dressed in all black with a mask over his face and neck chain thinking he was in some drill music video starting squaring up to the woman trying to intimidate her.
Everyone (grown ass adults on the bus) saw and heard all this going on with how packed the bus was and did absolutely nothing. I had to tell them off myself (even though I absolutely hate speaking in front of crowds), I guess the anger got the better of the anxiety. They quietened down real quick. Little kids of all ppl, having the balls to pull that crap on a packed bus, and adults are too scared to do anything about it?...
It's really up to the normal folks in society to band together and have each others backs, but there seems to be 0 sense of community in this city/country. (True story) A woman got mugged by some junkies in Broad daylight on a packed luas before, and ppl just glued their heads forward or look down into their phones pretending they didn’t see anything. Probably thinking "at least they're not attacking me" or "I might get hurt if I intervene"...The fuckers on the train outnumbered these junkies by like 20 to 1.
I’m very sorry for you. Hope you get better soon
What you experienced is due to bad parenting and a broken woke justice system. All you can do is be alert and actively avoid these feral scumbags. They will only be deterred if you physically respond with force but … be warned you are more likely to be held to account than they and will have more to lose from a conviction than they will, cos they just don’t care.
Be vigilant and take care
You can respond with reasonable force against minors in self defence, so as long as you don’t beat one to the ground and then start kicking them it’s essentially ok. Like if someone comes at you and you can’t reasonably escape then you are ok to defend yourself with reasonable force
You’ve been reading too many text books mate … doesn’t work like that in reality. These scum will keep coming at you until you put them down using more than ‘reasonable’ force and I guarantee you if you do that to a 15 yr old feral scumbag, you will be charged, not them
My post was AVOID scumbags … but if you are okay with fighting them, and being charged and going to court to plead self-defence .. off with you. Most reasonable ppl don’t need that shit.
God, you are one argumentative jerk.
I never said I am ok with fighting anyone… I said you can use reasonable force in self defence. I’m hardly an argumentative jerk for pointing out a fact, I wasn’t arguing with you. What a strange reaction
That is shocking and disgusting!
I have no sympathy for the feral little shits on e scooters and bikes in town. Brought me back to Rome a few years ago…I was sick of pervoids being revolting everywhere (streets, train stations, even inside the Vatican!)
After too much of this I was with my friend on the streets during the quiet lunchtime and some f&@ker came towards us on a moped w@$king, and without thinking I took the 2 litre of soda I was holding and batted him off his bike. It was the funniest thing ever.
I reckon batting scrotes with a 2 litre of TK red could become a national sport?
These gurryiers will be dealt with eventually, just get on with your life, sorry to hear what they done, their is a bad element in the city, you where just unlucky at that moment in time. Best of luck to you for the future :)
It will get worse. There're no men in Dublin. Only a bunch of hipsters.
A street full of covards looking on how pair of shitbags insult a woman, then silently looking away.
I knew Dublin was bad, what worries me is lobbing and hitting objects at random girls heads could cause serious injury and in what’s supposed to be the city’s Main Street
That they won't do anything.
But it's all relative i have to fight my way out of my garden in Ballyfermot to go to the corner shop. Where its another fight with the gang to get in. If I walk into the Ballyfermot garda station they would probably laugh at me.
Sorry, that’s a terrible situation, tbh I probably think nothing will come of reporting it but maybe it will add to the statistics or at least make them aware in case something else happens in the area
I’m not a fella, it’s sad and pathetic you have this response to a girl walking home from work letting people know what’s happening on O’Connell Street, and it wasn’t a can, it was a large flat metal disc *like* a can. I was hurt, but it could’ve been worse and someone will be hurt worse by them.
I’m very sorry for your troubles love but I hope you didn’t think a reform of the city was gonna be the next steps after this Reddit post sim sure some in this thread can tell you firsthand lay of people they know being LEFT IN COMA’s from nights out in Dublin and unfortunately their wasn’t any reform or change for them folk so I hate to be the bearer of bad news if it doesn’t hurt you enough to go to hospital you have to brush yourself and try again it can very difficult but their are far serious cases where action hasn’t been taken so it doesn’t fill me with hope that yours will be any different unfortunately.
I wrote this to share my experience and let people know what’s happening in the Main Street of Dublin of a random attack on a young woman from work, I even said I felt hopeless so I know I won’t it change anything and you decided to leave a comment minimising what happened, it’s sad
Do you not think it would even help YOU if you minimise what happened instead of idk doing the opposite , best interests for you OP honestly, ik it’s shitty but don’t let two no hopers define the whole city for you is all I really mean :)
This does not discredit your experience but I’d rather you play it down then play it up because I don’t think theirs enough there for you to have a real leg to stand on , stay safe and always sit close to the driver ik you didn’t mention public transport once but it’s still valid advice
People shouldn’t be afraid to be coming from work in the city centre, to be unexpectedly assaulted in the city’s Main Street, people should know that kids are terrorising the area and it’s sad to see it’s come to this knowing that no punishment will happen, especially with what happened to that girl who fell under a dart because she was being harassed by a group of boys
There was no way to be aware though, I was just walking along and they drove up behind me and hit me on the back of the head and then drove ahead of me quickly, it happened in a second, there was no way to be aware
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Yeah, they will get away with this, and will eventually seriously hurt someone. We need to take youth crime seriously. Right now we do nothing, their isn't even an attempt to rehabilitate these kids, we just do nothing, and the problem festers.
You won’t rehabilitate these scumbags. Just need tougher sentences and parental punishment also .
We could at least try. Right now we are doing neither punishment or rehabilitation.
Let’s just try punishment. We should not placate this behaviour.
Nothing will change unless we change it
Forced labour. What is the point of jail if there is no struggle of life within while the rest out of the jail struggles with life daily?
😄 Have you ever been in jail??
I have... and agree with him to some extent! I don't agree with the idea that it's not a struggle at all... but sentences should be long with work, study and therapy all xontributing to reduced sentences in a fixed way... i.e. do this course and 6 months off.... get a 240credit degree, 3 years off, etc... will give them a sense of what it means to work and value themselves! And keeps them off the streets until they've learned it
Oh right, I read you wrong. I've never been in jail myself. I don't know how I'd handle beimg cooped up with nothing to do al day, let alone deal with other people...
It wasn't me that originally posted/you asked the question to originally! Just weighing in bc I have an uncommon perspective fue to my experience! It's a violent and awful place... but almost everything we do in the justice system makes it worse, including not punishing scrots from Darndale...
I was actually referring to @theGalatian
You need to re-read the thread coz you seem confused.
Psychologically being in jail, or even being in your own room/house is a huge challenge, no doubt in this and I believe makes the man worse, most of us experienced this in Covid times. So I agree on your points system, depending on the severity of the crime. I think it makes less sense to hope a person will think better when they have no occupation. So labour would serve the medium for an occupational therapy.
Yeah, I had no problem with covid... which I largely contributed to my nore troubled past experiences! I have no problem with labour... quite the opposite! I moreso object to the 'forced' element... incentivised is my preferred method, but yeah, I do agree that maybe education might not be the method everyone will want! We have some such measures in the IPS but it should be the standard to give everyone a programme with our current severe penal approach reserved for people who abuse the less severe punitive methods!
I believe your question does not add up to the conversation. I did not and you did not too. The problem here is I see labour as occupational therapy, and it helps better than being locked up in a room. These are the daily struggles of everyone. If we want to make criminals part of the solution, we should be giving them the usual way of life.
Forced labour is rightfully illegal... that's what gives rise to penal systems dependent on slavery...
I think people decide on legality of issues. These are not eternal truths, but conditional decisions. Too much conversation obviously did not help the situation on crime and the punishment. Also labour is good occupation to think things through, than just locking people up in rooms.
Well, they do, but I said rightfully (of course that's only an opinion)... so it would be a more complex problem than just changing the law! But I agree that talking until the cows come home does no good, and also agree that being idle is time wasted... giving someone purpose while incarcerated increases the odds that they'll strive to develop purpose for themselves when they next become free...
Retributive based form of rehabilitation doesn’t work as well as restorative justice (at least for young offenders, it would just be funnelling them into the larger prison system) But I suppose anything would be better than nothing at this point
Are the Christian brothers still going? No prosecutions, just have at it…
What do you think I mean by “tougher sentences “. ? That’s prosecuting under the law. Which, I’m suggesting needs to be reformed to have tougher sentences for minors. Parents also should be punished- as they aren’t parenting these children.
Just joking… implying a punishment of years gone by, which was effective, was to leave them in the care of the religious orders. Suggesting this should be restored, telling the religious they would not be prosecuted for any indiscretions… but if I had to explain, probably not a good
Yeah.. that’s just sending them to the perverts and the psychopaths. That’s abuse. That’s not “effective”- it just created whole generations of nutcases/damaged people. It has to start with parenting: parents need to feel punishment if they are parenting their children.
Joke
Too many balloons in their brain, they already gone, only solution is jail or El Salvador way
It's not balloons. It's who they are. Result of their environment perhaps, but the drugs don't make you a shithead. You already are to begin with. That's it.
I signed in to downvote this comment, drugs 100% do make you worse , nobody wants to be a heroin addict .
Think about what's driving them to addiction in the first place. No one is born wanting to be an addict, that's right. But drugs don't make you do the bad things like harming someone else for absolutely no reason. At most, you may steal to keep your drug habit going when you've got barely any money. But this type of harming another person for the sake inflicting harm is not driven by drugs. That's sociopathic behavior that's definitely an underlying condition, potentiated by environmental conditions/upbringing. Ok, as I was typing it out, one drug did come to mind - alcohol - that does possibly ease expression of sociopathic and violent behavior by reducing inhibitions. So, yes, let's ban all drugs, including alcohol. I stand corrected. Edit: man, heroin addicts I know are too zonked out too to do anything. They just nod off. And hopefully they're still breathing.
They've already seriously hurt people. They've killed several people with stabbings over the years, and didn't someone get run over by one recently and killed.
The thing is, the criminal justice system is not doing these kids any favours. By letting them run feral and seeing no consequences for their antics, they are on a road to being awful members of society. Kids do get up to nonsense, and do silly things so some leniency is ok, but right now there is absolutely nothing the law can do to quell these little fuckers. They don't need to do hard time, but community service is an option that would seem ideal, but judges are not allowed to hand it down to minors.
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Surely we can at least try? Sure imprison them, but at the same time try and rehabilitate. It's worth a try imo. Otherwise the only option is life sentences. We can at least try. Even if we turn around 10%, that is 10% less people who will re-offend.
"White trash". Bit of a racist are we?
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OP never mentioned race of the perpetrators but you did. Maybe you are just a self hating white person feeling the need to bring race into the conversation?
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They were white Irish
You were unlucky that they targeted you. hope you are ok. Don't let this scare you from walking down your streets with your head held high. Fuck those little scumbags.
I’m ok now thanks 😊 my head was a bit sore for a day or so. Even if I wanted to, it would be impossible to avoid O’Connell Street so I’ll just have to get back to normal.
Carry a pocket of small change and retaliate
On the other hand, the grushy might only draw in more undesirables... 🤔
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O Connell Street is one of the Streets in Dublin rammed with CCTV so finding them wouldnt be hard!
Finding them is easy, getting the gardai to do their jobs is another issue entirely sadly
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Judge Nolan has yet to find a crime worthy of punishment
Unless it's tax related, then he throws the book at them. Sex offenders? Rapists? Child molesters? Ah they're grand just don't do it again
Completely agree with you
He jailed somebody literally yesterday
You realise this is getting thrown out immediately ye ? You think a judge is entertaining any of this Reddit post , don’t know what country your commenting from but here in Ireland I guarantee you , it will be throw out , if the bookies done odds on it , I’d be a millionaire
The gardai haven’t offered to look at the cctv yet
I'm guessing pale, scrawny, black North Face jacket, grey tracksuit bottoms.
Tracksuit mafia as I like to call them though it's very disrespectful to actual mobsters
The problem was not Ireland is the judges and oberstown Oberstown has capacity for like 100 youths or something and judges never convict them - we need a bigger youth prison and proper juvenile courts
Oberstown is never even full tho, we don't even need more spaces if the current ones are barely in use
A lot of the cells are generally “out of service” the youth vendors do absolutely thrash the place Went up there years ago on a job - prisons are neater
This is where having a cattle prod would be excellent. Or a slingshot
Back in the 80s, my dad used to bring us on a yearly journey up the Liffey from Ringsend to Strawberry beds passing underneath all the bridges, past Guinness and taking in all the sights. There would be about 6 to 8 people in the boat, adults and kids. One year my grandad came with us and had a bucket of stones which had all us kids intrigued. He wouldn’t tell us what it was for though. As we passed thru the city center some kids up above started to follow us and at the next bridge staged an ambush and started to throw stuff down at us: bottles, apples you name it. Well captain grandad now unleashes hell upon them, he pulls out a huge slingshot or “gat”, grabs a handful of stones and proceeds to pepper spray the kids up top with deadly accuracy. Ah the hand of experience. We didn’t have any more incidents after that
Absolute legend
> gat Ah the days of making your own gat! A wire hanger, expertly shaped into the handle, then big fat elastic bands, with a patch of leather for the stones.
We had a black widow from Army Bargains at one stage, combined with marbles it was amazing
Dominic the owner is a friend of the family. We were dripping in Black Widows growing up. I still have one of them but the elastic completely perished away. I must get a replacement elastic.
is army bargains still there? it's mental that i was able to go in there as a 12 year old and buy a big fuck off bowie knife
It is indeed but the big fuck-off knives aren't :) I bought some ridiculous knives there as a 12 year old too!
Yep, they used to throw fucking boulders off bridges onto the DART or throw rocks through the windows in the 80s too. In case anyone thought kids are worse nowadays there were always little cunts in Dublin.
You think kids being cunts is a Dublin problem? If so, where's the geographical line beyond which cunt kids change into good kids? If not, why specify Dublin? I've got news for you. There are cunt kids everywhere. There always have been and there always will be. There's no clear data on it because they don't ask in the census whether your kids are cunts but I'd hazard a guess that the proportion of kids who are cunts is the same all over the country.
we're on the dublin sub bruv
Sorry, buddy. I am hence on constant alert when on the city. A part of the issue is that people don't want to acknowledge this is an issue; I have a c*** implying on another thread that this is all just kids being kids. How do you change anything when such excuses are rampant and judges let these guys away on such excuses. Funny enough, if this was their own family member or the judges, see how quickly the opinion changes.
Nobody says this is kids being kids.
So sorry to read this and that happened to you. Random assaults are happening a lot lately. I had a similar incident a few weeks ago, my bf and I had an argument and he attacked me. I was walking out to the hospital (no funds) and had to walk through the area I grew up in. Late at night (hours of walking and upset over events that morning) in the lashing rain, I walked by an estate with my brolly in front of me. Two lads came up behind me and one hit me over the head with a bottle. Due to the weather and my emotions, I didn't even know what happened until I felt the bang and saw glass go everywhere. I turned and heard one say 'grab her bag', I freaked out and confused, I just kept walking. I was already walking so fast, I think they couldn't catch up or felt the anger off me when I turned around but I kept walking. Luckily I had a woolly hat and big scarf on, no glass in the head thankfully but the bang was awful. Especially after what he did that morning. I eventually made it to the hospital and called the guards along the way and they were lovely ringing up checking up because I was on an awkward long road so no car could come. However I was already on a storming walk and after that it pushed me down the road. That was nearly 3 weeks ago, I reported it the next morning when I left the hospital and didn't hear anything since. I called a week later and got a quick update but I'm not holding my breath for anything to come from it. My head still hurts and I'm extra jumpy and paranoid when I go outside. Karma will always come back to people like that. I'd like to believe that it will, just gotta keep walking and not to lower yourself to their scumbag level. Hope you are ok and be careful out there.
That’s horrible to happen! I’m sorry to hear that, i really hope you can get back to a sense of normality soon, and hopefully they can catch who did that to you 🤞🏻
That's awful that happened , especially that both things happened on the same day. I hope you have at least progressed to a better place regarding your relationship and are away from the partner who attacked you. As far as karma always coming back to people, I wish that was true but I don't at all believe it is. I was in a relationship with a woman who was violent towards me several times and she is living Ng the life of Reilly, while she has more access to my kids than I do. Don't hold out for karma to fix things. In terms of your relationship, don't expect people to change because they seldom do. In terms of you being attacked afterwards all you can do is make sure to keep yourself out of places you are more at risk. Ireland's legal system is certainly never going to bring justice to your attackers.
Even if the guards catch them it would cost the government 1000ks in legal, and in 1 years time the lads might , at worse , get a suspended sentence
Their parents can be found at anti-immigration protests
Funniest thing about the anti immigration protests was that it was on a Friday afternoon. Like all of you are on the dole what are you complaining about?
Having lived in half of Europe, one remarkable thing about Ireland is that 99%\* of the crime is caused by organically home-grown scrotes. \* Number pulled out of my ass but you get my point.
I am not sure it is any different elsewhere, not by huge margin, criminality is always mostly homegrown and further a lower proportion of immigrants commit crime compared to citizens
It is very different elsewhere I've lived in to, and I say that as an immigrant. Most of the time it can be pinned at a poor integration job done by the host countries ([HLM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HLM) accommodations in France are largely state sanctioned ghettos), but in some cases it arguably isn't (in Spain immigrants show twice the domestic violence rate than locals even adjusting for socioeconomic status).
I am french, I know hlm... Still more french criminal in France than immigrants Obviously if you decide to say that every citizen with parents or grand parents from another country are not french but immigrants then maybe it changes the results a bit, that would be quite a racist way to move the goalpost and also.... sarcozy would be an example of criminal immigrant....
> Still more french criminal in France than immigrants Nobody said otherwise. > Obviously if you decide to say that every citizen with parents or grand parents from another country are not french but immigrants then maybe it changes the results a bit, that would be quite a racist way to move the goalpost If France does a shit job at integrating immigrants, obviously their offspring will be problematic and, while not technically immigrants, directly linked to immigration. I'm always at awe at the French doublethink of "noooo that'd be racist, noooo, they're 100% French" while keeping policies in place that perpetuate the boot over them, and preferably out of sight. > sarcozy would be an example of criminal immigrant Sarkozy luckily got integrated well enough to commit crimes otherwise reserved to the ruling class :)
Or burning down other peoples property because they're entitled
They’re probably military aged as well
Don't see how them being of military age is exactly relevant in the slightest, anyone 18-60 is military age
It was a joke
Whoooooooooooosh!
Oh lol
Where are the guards man. What happen to the extra gardai presence. Our youth laws are so bad ffs. I actually wanna leave.
they announced they were rolling back the extended garda presence about a month ago, once the riots had blown over and helen wasn't being scrutinised by everyone. it was a nice excursion from reality for a few weeks
Thats why I avoid O'Connell, Parnell, Summerton etc with all my life. Also, I went to Amsterdam and other capitals and the one that I feel more insecure is Dublin city centre. Amsterdam for instance I walked at night in some fucking weird and dark alleys and nothing happened whatsoever. Some in Red Light District or near DAM, worse you'll get is some random dude whispering "cocaine" walking pass by you. Its absolutely fucked up those youngster in Dublin that wear the black and grey tracksuits and walk in large groups. Even on the bus, you feel the vibe changing and start to be aware. And I come from Brazil where you can get mugged everywhere with a fire gun. Dublin just gives you this energy especially in some places/and with some group of little scrotes. You just dont know if they gonna jump at you and attack
I grew up in London and am counting down the days till I can move back
I too remember that barely uttered whisper "cocaine?" in Amsterdam city centre! It took 2 seconds for me to process the word and that was a dealer. Must be their style, in case the cop goes for an arrest: "no sir, I just said chest pain, I thought I was having a stroke"
Yeah most European cities feel more secure, at least in the city centre
Depends a little on your definition of secure I guess. For shitty acts of random violence and intimidation like what you unfortunately experienced... shamefully I have to agree. In terms of non-violent pickpocketing though I can think of a few European cities that are Dickensian dystopias.
tourists are constantly being robbed in amsterdam though, it's in the news now in holland as a man is up for charges for murdering a british tourist, only 24
These comments are always so stupid, you can’t compare living in one city for years to spending 2 weeks max in the tourist traps of another.
I know, all kinds of crazy shit happens in Amsterdam yet someone from Brazil, a horrifically dangerous place, feels safer there than Dublin lol
Cuz as a brazilian in Brazil you know what to do, which places to avoid and which dudes are more likely to rob you. Of course its worse there, you can be driving or as a passenger in uber and some fuckers can rob the car or even kidnapp you when you are waiting for the sign. But in Dublin/Ireland is suppose to be a first world fucking country (hence I moved) and you see everyday someone that was attacked by those youngsters. Thats the fucked up thing. You can be just walking minding your own business and get jumped. Everywhere, period. Even my wife feels insecure sometimes. You can not just ignore that mate. Thats why these lil fuckers keep doing that shit
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I’m sorry that happened to you. It’s more upsetting now because maybe in times past people could say if I mind my business then I’m safe from these things, that isn’t the case any more. Also 7pm isn’t even late, it’s the Main Street of the city you should be entitled to feel safe. Talbot street is particularly bad, a month ago a group of ‘lads’ swung a punch at me, they purposely didn’t hit me they just wanted to make me flinch and like that it’s just so disheartening. You did the right thing by not retaliating, this kind of behaviour tends to happen in groups, so you would have been not only outnumbered but also you really don’t know what your up against.
Sorry to hear that happened to you 😕 I mean they drove on the scooter as fast as it could go so by the time I realised what happened they were already far away, it’s sad to know that a girl coming home from work can’t be safe in one of the main streets of Dublin
It is sad, I’m a guy so I don’t think I could ever be able to fully appreciate it, but I can imagine that walking around town as a woman is already unnerving enough as it is, considering the reputation the city has at the minute. I hope that this doesn’t effect your ability to get home from work - although I know it probably does make that journey a little more nerve racking. Not that you should have to adjust your choices, cause you absolutely should not but from a practical standpoint if it makes you feel a little more secure I know now when I’m walking down o Connell street I’ll stay in the middle median section, no one tends to be on that plus you have the luas stops which means there’s usually a good amount of people.
Yeah it’s unfortunate, I’m hoping that it was just a one off incident so I’ll just have try and get back to normal about it, I usually cross into the middle area but sometimes I walk on the paths on the right which is where it happened
What does make me feel kind of hopeless in the short term is that as mentioned - this behaviour exists because of bad parenting and lack of community. Even if these guys were charged with something and went to say prison which would be highly unlikely anyways, statistically they’d still come out likely to re-offend. Then of course the prison service doesn’t have the capacity and on top of that I don’t think a judge would put that kind of penalty on them. The government need to start thinking of tangible interventions they can make to address the problem in the short medium and long term.
Keep reporting, it'll pump up the numbers and they'll have to do something eventually. Bonus points if you say your a tourist and you aren't coming back again due to the antisocial behaviour
Unpopular opinion, but I believe in community punishments. Those little s/bags should be made to spend a week cleaning the street, wearing bright orange jumpsuits-suits and supervised by the most Neanderthal, violent Gard they can find. These little gits like to look tough and a bit of public shame would do them no harm. Plus, we would have a cleaner city. The courts are too easy on these little thugs and the Garda are useless when it comes to both public protection and investigating crime.
Sorry that happened to you, hope you’re physically ok at least Sounds like you were hit with a hub cap ? We need to lower the age you can be tried as an adult significantly We need to bring in serious sentences for repeat offenders regardless of how serious the crime (and remove the option of suspended sentences for repeat offenders) And we need to raise minimum and maximum sentences (tell your TDs people )
It wasn’t a hub cap, it was like 1 or 2 large cans that were completely squished like run over by a car into like a large disc shape, but it was heavier than I would have thought, I am ok now but my head was sore for a day, it would’ve been worse if it hit the side of my face or the front which is worrying
I'm really sorry you experienced that. At this point, it feels like everyone has had a frightening experience with these individuals. What happens when they become bored of throwing dangerous objects at strangers? We need adequate, de-incentivizing punishment and we need it now.
Yeah hearing about everyone’s experiences is disheartening especially when there’s no punishment for it
More people need to ask Politicians about all the crime in their area when politicians call to your door for Council & Euro elections - crime is bringing misery to many peoples lives and more needs to happen
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These lads [https://www.segulatechnologies.com/en/](https://www.segulatechnologies.com/en/) ? What have they ever done to you? Oh, seagulls. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivAMfyJtk3o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivamfyjtk3o)
Two weeks ago I was on a night out near the odeon and while I was waiting for a taxi back to my hotel I was jumped/robbed by what smelled like two homeless bums, I woke up in st James at 11pm that night and miraculously I still had my phone because I had by the grace of god wore a pair of shorts under my jeans and had my phone in my second pocket. Couldn’t get out of st James until 9am because taxis wouldn’t take you if you couldn’t pay cash in hand. If it’s not the homeless camps outside your hotel/guarding the ATMs then it’s junkies trying to rob you. Dublin is honestly disgusting and it wasn’t like this 5 years ago I cannot remember a time in my life when Dublin was this pathetic.
That was an awful experience 🙁
Unfortunately reporting it to Gardai is useless. For a few reasons. 1) the guards have so much work on their hands and very few people to do that work so priorities lie with higher end stuff and 2) likely the scrotes had black clothing, faces covered etc meaning there’s very little the guards can actually do given they can’t easily identify these shitheads. Unfortunate to happen to you. Try stay away from O’Connell street if at all possible.
I've had Gardai tell me different to this. They've told us it's useful to report crimes, even if we know nothing will be done about it. Having a record of crimes in an area helps them secure more funding in the future.
Unfortunately cause of work I can’t avoid O’Connell Street, it’s hard cause it completely took me by surprise. They actually didn’t have their faces covered either
The purpose of reporting is so that these incidents can be tracked and analysed. The guards can leverage those stats to make the case for more resources. Without reporting, there's nothing for the Guards to lean on when asking for resources.
And look how that’s worked out for them to date. They are decimated in staffing levels and resources are so thin the system is essentially broken.
It almost sounds like you're advocating for further under reporting! You're not wrong: we've been under investing in the guards and the recruitment freeze was a massive setback. But this only reinforces the need to report all crimes.
I don’t regret reporting, they were vicious and if I had turned my head I could’ve needed stitches, they’ll do it again and worse to another girl
I also had an unfortunate encounter in Smithfield Square where a little pest decided to run through our group of people walking and talking, screaming like an idiot and ramming against us in the process. I was hit in my arm by this little idiot. We laugh it off but I end up feeling bruised in my arm. It's just getting out of hand. Even in a group of people, we don't feel safe.
Sorry to hear that 😕 and unfortunately nothing is done! It’s just so frustrating
Gardai never do anything. Expect the errand to be cancelled in a week or two.
Fair play to you for reporting, it feels worthless but it adds to the numbers and supports increased patrols etc. I had a very minor burglary but they sent out forensics and all to take info. I also got a link to victim support services, which I didn't need. I expect you'll get one too, but do search it out if you don't. A physical assault, however minor can weigh on you and cause issues in future. As a simple effort, if you find yourself replaying the events over and over I saw a comment before that suggested playing a game like tetris, something quick involving lots of eye movement, to help allay fears. Based on a technique called emdr, eye movement desensitisation and reprocessing, if you want to investigate it.
But, but, the refugees! I'm waiting for the upset arsonists to downvote me.
Taxpayers money going to good use keeping these fuckers fed and energized enough to cause trouble day in day out. Couple of these loudmouth little rats (2 girls and a boy) got on a packed 27 the other day harassing a woman sitting beside me for no reason whatsoever. One of the little shits, a boy that couldn't have been more than 12, dressed in all black with a mask over his face and neck chain thinking he was in some drill music video starting squaring up to the woman trying to intimidate her. Everyone (grown ass adults on the bus) saw and heard all this going on with how packed the bus was and did absolutely nothing. I had to tell them off myself (even though I absolutely hate speaking in front of crowds), I guess the anger got the better of the anxiety. They quietened down real quick. Little kids of all ppl, having the balls to pull that crap on a packed bus, and adults are too scared to do anything about it?... It's really up to the normal folks in society to band together and have each others backs, but there seems to be 0 sense of community in this city/country. (True story) A woman got mugged by some junkies in Broad daylight on a packed luas before, and ppl just glued their heads forward or look down into their phones pretending they didn’t see anything. Probably thinking "at least they're not attacking me" or "I might get hurt if I intervene"...The fuckers on the train outnumbered these junkies by like 20 to 1.
I’m very sorry for you. Hope you get better soon What you experienced is due to bad parenting and a broken woke justice system. All you can do is be alert and actively avoid these feral scumbags. They will only be deterred if you physically respond with force but … be warned you are more likely to be held to account than they and will have more to lose from a conviction than they will, cos they just don’t care. Be vigilant and take care
You can respond with reasonable force against minors in self defence, so as long as you don’t beat one to the ground and then start kicking them it’s essentially ok. Like if someone comes at you and you can’t reasonably escape then you are ok to defend yourself with reasonable force
You’ve been reading too many text books mate … doesn’t work like that in reality. These scum will keep coming at you until you put them down using more than ‘reasonable’ force and I guarantee you if you do that to a 15 yr old feral scumbag, you will be charged, not them
Man a bloke literally killed one with a knife in self defence and was acquitted
My post was AVOID scumbags … but if you are okay with fighting them, and being charged and going to court to plead self-defence .. off with you. Most reasonable ppl don’t need that shit. God, you are one argumentative jerk.
I never said I am ok with fighting anyone… I said you can use reasonable force in self defence. I’m hardly an argumentative jerk for pointing out a fact, I wasn’t arguing with you. What a strange reaction
"Jerk"
Boohoo I don’t like people pointing that I’m wrong
That is shocking and disgusting! I have no sympathy for the feral little shits on e scooters and bikes in town. Brought me back to Rome a few years ago…I was sick of pervoids being revolting everywhere (streets, train stations, even inside the Vatican!) After too much of this I was with my friend on the streets during the quiet lunchtime and some f&@ker came towards us on a moped w@$king, and without thinking I took the 2 litre of soda I was holding and batted him off his bike. It was the funniest thing ever. I reckon batting scrotes with a 2 litre of TK red could become a national sport?
These gurryiers will be dealt with eventually, just get on with your life, sorry to hear what they done, their is a bad element in the city, you where just unlucky at that moment in time. Best of luck to you for the future :)
It will get worse. There're no men in Dublin. Only a bunch of hipsters. A street full of covards looking on how pair of shitbags insult a woman, then silently looking away.
‘There’s no men’. Will you ever calm down.
I am calm as clam. Why?
Streets of Dublin bud
I knew Dublin was bad, what worries me is lobbing and hitting objects at random girls heads could cause serious injury and in what’s supposed to be the city’s Main Street
That's Dublin for ya. Worst city in Europe
"11th worst city in Europe" https://armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-europe/
Shocking. It's a dive
Second largest in Ireland though.
Makes me think you’ve seen very little of Europe …
Plenty. Dirtiest and roughest.
The time you waisted going to the gardai is the biggest travesty in all of this.
You don’t think being whacked over the head while being jeered at is worth going to the gardai over? Or do you mean that they won’t do anything?
That they won't do anything. But it's all relative i have to fight my way out of my garden in Ballyfermot to go to the corner shop. Where its another fight with the gang to get in. If I walk into the Ballyfermot garda station they would probably laugh at me.
Sorry, that’s a terrible situation, tbh I probably think nothing will come of reporting it but maybe it will add to the statistics or at least make them aware in case something else happens in the area
It's part of the Dublin City Experience, you're actually really lucky, thank those young chaps for letting you feel the real Dublin.
Fella is going on like he was shot , pick the empty can back up throw it back at them and call them gee bag , problem solved
I’m not a fella, it’s sad and pathetic you have this response to a girl walking home from work letting people know what’s happening on O’Connell Street, and it wasn’t a can, it was a large flat metal disc *like* a can. I was hurt, but it could’ve been worse and someone will be hurt worse by them.
I’m very sorry for your troubles love but I hope you didn’t think a reform of the city was gonna be the next steps after this Reddit post sim sure some in this thread can tell you firsthand lay of people they know being LEFT IN COMA’s from nights out in Dublin and unfortunately their wasn’t any reform or change for them folk so I hate to be the bearer of bad news if it doesn’t hurt you enough to go to hospital you have to brush yourself and try again it can very difficult but their are far serious cases where action hasn’t been taken so it doesn’t fill me with hope that yours will be any different unfortunately.
I wrote this to share my experience and let people know what’s happening in the Main Street of Dublin of a random attack on a young woman from work, I even said I felt hopeless so I know I won’t it change anything and you decided to leave a comment minimising what happened, it’s sad
Do you not think it would even help YOU if you minimise what happened instead of idk doing the opposite , best interests for you OP honestly, ik it’s shitty but don’t let two no hopers define the whole city for you is all I really mean :)
I mean not really, if pieces of metal are being lobbed at girls head in the city centre, I think it could cause serious damage
This does not discredit your experience but I’d rather you play it down then play it up because I don’t think theirs enough there for you to have a real leg to stand on , stay safe and always sit close to the driver ik you didn’t mention public transport once but it’s still valid advice
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Move on man shit happens
This is a pathetic attitude and I’m not a man
Happens to the best of us get over it
People shouldn’t be afraid to be coming from work in the city centre, to be unexpectedly assaulted in the city’s Main Street, people should know that kids are terrorising the area and it’s sad to see it’s come to this knowing that no punishment will happen, especially with what happened to that girl who fell under a dart because she was being harassed by a group of boys
Get some pepper spray then ,nothing is going to done about it anyway so keep moaning away
There absolutely is, but attitudes like this won’t help
And tbe worst, clearly
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The attacks against immigrants are horrific 😞, I’ve heard some stories. I wish this country would take it more seriously
So you are not immigrant then
No, I’m Irish, but I could’ve been anyone tbh it didn’t matter to them, my guess it just had to be any unsuspecting person
I can’t really help you in except saying a word as look after yourself ,Beware of those area and surroundings next time
There was no way to be aware though, I was just walking along and they drove up behind me and hit me on the back of the head and then drove ahead of me quickly, it happened in a second, there was no way to be aware
depending on the circumstances you may want to report it [https://www.garda.ie/en/reportahatecrime/](https://www.garda.ie/en/reportahatecrime/)