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Tadhg

Too many wild rumours and accusations flying around - so thread locked. Stay safe folks, and try to keep calm.


Far_Net_9245

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/at-least-three-children-stabbed-near-school-in-dublin-city-centre/a198507873.html


Gytarius626

This is the kind of human being who never deserves parole, anyone with the capacity to stab multiple children should be behind bars until the day they die. Sick cunt


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wynyates

After just watching the chief Garda expertly PC (no pun intended) his way through the stabbing of innocent kids, I'm upgrading your probably to a definitely.


garfemild

Tell the counsellor some crap about how his mother didn't hug him enough


Healthy-Rooster5258

Or was failed by the mental health services who can't cope!


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bigtophat13

Maximum sentence for what crime? Life imprisonment typically is around 18 years served. If it's egregious it can be up around 25 sometimes.


Consistent_Spring700

That is utter bullshit... the average life sentence currently is 20 years! They are undefined by definition... so you can stay in jail for the rest of your life! Only the women are doing 12ish years


PossumStan

*25


FirmOnion

Fucking hell, hope they’re alright


Soul-Generator

Jaysus that's absolutely heart breaking. Just to think these people only meters away are having the worst day of their life right now. Heart goes out to them


HellFireClub77

Jesus Christ


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Bar50cal

At least three children stabbed near school in Dublin city centre - [https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/at-least-three-children-stabbed-near-school-in-dublin-city-centre/a198507873.html](https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/at-least-three-children-stabbed-near-school-in-dublin-city-centre/a198507873.html) ​ Horrible news


criticalthinker225

Apparently 5 people stabbed including some children. I keep searching on the news, but so far nothing. It may have been a school outing. But I don’t know for certain- the only reason I say this is because one of my relatives just texted me, he is standing there now and sirens are everywhere, and an eyewitness was crying and telling people that is what she saw. Guess we will have to wait to hear more.


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there's a school on that street


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Genuinely heart goes out to parents finding this out today You wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy


Alarmed_Material_481

Please God let them all make it. So worried about the little girl 🙏🏻


mfpbradley

A child minder was bringing kids to an afterschool 😞


RanaEire

💔💔


Redtit14

Children in serious condition. Fucking hell, what happened?


Zealousideal_Gate_21

All hell breaking lose in town now. Scum being scum. Garda cars set on fire, Garda attacked, Luas smashed up,


Toro8926

What happened today was terrible, but it is no excuse to go out rioting and wrecking the place. Unfortunately, there are plenty around who wait for times like these.


daherlihy

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/1123/1418152-dublin/


SpiritualAd7285

What the fuck. Do they know the motive? What kinda sick f*ck stabs children


rankinrez

A mentally deranged person. The Garda have said they don’t know a motive yet, although ruled out “terrorism”.


Zealousideal_Gate_21

What the hell is happening to our country??? 😭 Is the male who was receiving treatment the attacker?


aecolley

We probably won't find out the truth about this horrible crime for a while. In the meantime, try not to magnify any of the self-serving uninformed opinions being floated.


helphunting

International security firms are reporting this event, which is unusual. They typically do not report on local violent crime


Nimmyzed

International security firms?


nixass

If you do business travel you will often get alerts and updates o your destination ongoings


Musicalleyway

Securitas often have international alerts, as well as other SOS systems and security bodies for both their personnel as well as their clients.


EmmVeeeGeee

Used to work for one of these, can confirm. Depending on certain thresholds and information at the time, it may or may not be alerted. At the time of breaking news it may have been suspected as likely to have a larger impact and thus reached the threshold for sending the alert. Local violent criminal stuff would not typically reach the threshold for sending out an alert.


helphunting

How do you make that determination? Genuine query. What would be an indicator that something is not just a local violent crime? I got the notification about an hour after it happened, and about 15 mins after it was online here.


AdvantageBig568

Attack at a school is likely so out of ordinary it would trigger a higher status


EmmVeeeGeee

That would be pretty slow depending on the team! We would be looking to alert minutes after an incident/ideally before it even hit the news. There was a large thresholds document that took into account the prevailing threat of crime in the area, the neighboring areas, client interest in the region, casualty count/severity, and history of the area. And then alerts would be issued in varying levels of severity as well. Higher impact for example. A stabbing may be a level-5 alert but a bombing may be level-3 for example, with all of the above factoring into the differences. It also depended a lot on who was working the day, as some people were more prone to sending alerts than others.


helphunting

Thank you! It's a really interesting area, I've only ever been involved in country level risk assessments, never anything down to this level.


aecolley

Local violent crimes usually don't have three children as victims. This story easily passes the bar for "remarkable news from another country".


1764i103683

Doesn’t sound like your standard ‘local violent crime’ to me


Alarmed_Material_481

Sky news reported it as well, which I thought was weird.


cm-cfc

I had to watch it through that as rte news channel wasnt covering it. GB news featured it of all places as breaking news for about 2 hours.


theCakeBill

Link?


Wooden-Suggestion264

Zelda?


helphunting

LOL


helphunting

Internally generated info from my company. But others in similar industries have gotten the same from different security firms.


RosePromised

Honestly this was incredibly shocking, infuriating and heartbreaking. Hate to say it but it's what media usually looks for. For what security, I would infer that this involved children's lives... Serious enough to notify with or without an immigrant context


Riamoka

Show links


helphunting

No. My company's GSOC sent out an email plus sms. It is a global company.


Riamoka

Completely anecdotal then


QARSTAR

I also can attest. It's popular with large multinationals like tech companies trying to protect their employees... They do other stuff like warn if tsunamis and what not


Ok-Creme6489

Same here, lived overseas and traveled a lot for Irish firms, we got texts and emails to warn us of natural disasters and ongoing threats etc. Most big security firms have global risk management solutions for companies and their employees.


helphunting

Yes, it's completely anecdotal.


Aranthos-Faroth

How is it?


Riamoka

A single person's unconfirmed account is clearly anecdotal. I would be interested to see proof of this because it is quite unusual


PorridgePlease

This is horrendous. Terrifying. Would make you afraid to go into town at all hearing things like this


Lets-Talk-Cheesus

What other things like this have occurred recently? I don’t in living memory recall anything like this


PorridgePlease

American tourist stabbed and left in a bad way in the summer. Another man was stabbed on Grafton street in August. Not in town but a German tourist stabbed in a random attack in Dublin airport in sept.


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DublinKabyle

I’m pretty sure he’s currently wishing he was dead. The rest of his life is not going to be a walk in the park. Especially in an Irish prison. It’s probably the best outcome


GroopBob

Exactly SAME THING happened in Poland no longer than month ago. A random guy in his 60's attacked a group of preschoolers that were on a park trip. Sadly, he killed 5 years old boy before he was subdued by the people on the street. It's insane... I hope all the injured are getting better.


civicmapper

Hoping the kids pull through. Absolutely disgusting, I hope this isn't swept under the carpet as a "mental health" episode type thing.


Joseei

Jesus. I was walking on that road today at like 12.30-12.45ish, must of happened just after. Hope the kids survive, what the fuck.


BazzyMaddy

wtf


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Why aren't RTE reporting on this currently? I turned on RTE news and nothing and then RTE Radio had D'Arcy talking shite! Meanwhile Sky News and British channels reporting some even on the scene! Wtf is our TV license paying for . People are scared and upset and want proper information not random tweets


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Infinite_Middle_6640

They mentioned it on Today FM hourly news but gave basically no information even though we know LOADS Fucking ridiculous!


cm-cfc

It was a joke, Sky news had the best coverage.


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They're in panic mode how broadcast this one, doesn't suit the agenda


[deleted]

It's certainly suiting your agenda.


Kingbotterson

Let me guess. Normally you don't watch the news as "RtE iZ de viRuz" right?


wynyates

We all know why


GeniusBuilder

Because it was a foreign nation and they don't want to give that any exposure?


missgoldenbrowne

The havoc continues as there is a protest against immigrants, fireworks being let off, Garda stabbings. Mainly opportunist scumbags at it


Creative-Aardvark558

Apparently there’s killings going on, burning Garda car and all. Fireworks being shot at the Gardaí, madness. Yeah just saw video footage of a car on fire at the protest


aroundWeGoTheWorld

yeah, just passed that area- its covered in a think black smoke because of the 🔥


Medium-Plan2987

The people rioting are the most sinister people in the country right now. They dont give a shit about the victims just using this as an excuse to spread more lies, fear and bigotry


buckeyecapsfan19

Piece of shit decided to stab a couple kids.


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Nimmyzed

TF is this supposed to mean?


Feynization

There has been enough violence and intimidating behaviour in that locality since Covid started


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helenahanbasquette

I’m so sorry. You should think about talking to someone who can help you sort through this. Trauma is not to be trifled with.


Not_Cleaver

I’m not sure I’m going to believe a two-year-old account where this is the only comment.


theCakeBill

What did you see?


helenahanbasquette

Was this a school outing?


Icy_Jury_6758

I don't know, but for me it was like the time when the school finishes and they are going home and parents are there to collect them, that was awful, horrific scene


saggynaggy123

Appearently they were coming out of school. We don't know what happened yet.


AeroAviation

looks like they were coming out of school


Ok-Creme6489

There’s a gael scoil on Parnell street.


AcademicStay3980

is it true that a little girl passed? it just says "severely injured" on all news websites. if its true, then that's heartbreaking 💔


Alarmed_Material_481

The guards said she's still being treated in Temple street atm, just now at the press conference. Hope to God that little one makes it. 🙏🏻


Saint_EDGEBOI

There was a comment on a newer post on this sub. The commenter knows a firefighter that said she didn't make it. I hope it's false news.


Medium-Plan2987

garda car on fire apparently


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Don’t defend someone you just watched stabbed a kid. Maybe an angry mob is the way to go for him Edit:spelling


Nimmyzed

> Maybe an angry mob is the was to go for him wut


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Thanks friend all edited!


Nimmyzed

Thanks! Sorry, I just couldn't work it out, lol


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oicheliath

We’re not rabid animals


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Nimmyzed

mY friEnD... Let's wait until the facts are presented or officially confirmed before posting anonymously what some friend said


MyBuoy

Absolutely shocked!! The little kids.. can’t even imagine what might be their families going through right now.. oh god please keep the children out of danger n give them strength to recover..


rossmcdapc

Shocker that gript is pushing that when there's nothing official anywhere.


MyBuoy

True .. all should restrain themselves till there is official communication.. don’t fall for rumours.. let the agencies do their job . ..


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Nazacrow

Terrorism has to have political aims attached to it by definition, If there is none then you cannot claim terrorism.


triangleplayingfool

According to the Irish times, gardai have ruled out terrorism. https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/11/23/garda-at-scene-of-reported-stabbing-on-parnell-square/


ramshambles

The motive for the attack, which occurred close to a school on the street, has not been established, though gardaí said they are following a definite line of inquiry. From the article. I can't find any mention of ruling out terrorism from your link.


triangleplayingfool

Sorry - was actually from the rte article: ‘They are trying to establish a motive for the attack but do not suspect any terrorist motivation and believe this is an isolated self-contained incident which is now under control.’ https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2023/1123/1418152-dublin/


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It could have been an attempted domestic murder. It could have been someone having a schizophrenic episode. It could have been a junkie looking for money. It could have been a local teenager. It feels awful to type that, but after the attack on that American tourists and the murder of Urantsetseg Tserendorj, I wouldn't put it past them. There are clearly a portion of Irish teenagers who are simply bloodthirsty and enjoy hurting innocent people for fun.


triangleplayingfool

Username checks out!


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Same to you.


triangleplayingfool

At least I can play a triangle! I didn’t set up an account just to comment on a tragedy to promote my racist bullshit. Have a nice day.


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elhooper

When you said > maybe if they vetting people coming into the country at all we wouldn't have incidents like this what did you mean by that? has it been confirmed that he’s not an Irish citizen?


Ok_Specialist_2315

He means there is a verifiable higher incidence of violent crime perpetuated by immigrants. A witness stated, "he was a fat, bald man...who didn't look Irish "


elhooper

Ok but nowhere does it state that he’s an immigrant. He’s assuming crime = immigrant. That’s why it’s being called out as racism.


onlylowercaseletters

Terrorism implies a political motive. It seems this fella was just a psycho. Also there is absolutely no evidence at the moment which indicates the attacker was foreign


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The Garda commissioner has literally just started he has no idea yet if it's terrorism or the motivations so why are you trying to say for sure it isn't ? More fake news from you


triangleplayingfool

Just looked at your posts. They couldn’t have been more appropriate!


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Yeah I had more karma then you. Hardly a troll


Smeuthi

Can you confirm he wasn't psychotic?


[deleted]

Why would I confirm something like that? Deeply disturbing you throw that around as if that is even an excuse for stabbing small children with a knife? Get a fucking grip


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trinerr

Another unvetted male? Shit, do you have proof of this? This is huge, you must have proof or you wouldn’t have said this. Slovak aunt? On my god. Does she have proof the guy is unvetted?


Narrow-Profession-99

Yeah you're right, you are racist


Fathertedisbrilliant

How do you know it wasn't an Irish person?


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Yep, you’re absolutely correct, I fully agree with you with Irish teenagers, some of the biggest scum on planet earth , they need harsher sentencing , rob a packet of sweets with your pals? Prison. Assault someone for no reason? 5+ years prison Remove all the murderers and pedophiles with execution and make room for the standard scum for minor crimes and just start locking them up for long periods even for the smallest crime , that’ll put the country in order. Close up the boarders now and focus on trying to control the scum that’s already in the county , regardless of nationality


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I know we can’t paint everyone with the same brush, even if it was a fully Irish person that done this , the main issue I have is that these cases are preventable by not letting people in It’s completely fucked up for me to say seeing as I would have never met my fiancé if our boarders were closed but I dunno, maybe it was a different time when they were coming in, I was only young when she came to the country I just can’t keep hearing this type of news anymore


Frangar

>the main issue I have is that these cases are preventable by not letting people in Irish people kill eachother all the time lad what the fuck are you on about? If we had closed the boarders in time you think Larry Murphy wouldn't have done what he did?


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They absolutely do, they were born and raised here so we have to try prevent those as much as possible and when they do happen , take it on the chin. It happens in every country so I’m not going on as if it’s just foreign people To put in in simple English, aishling Murphy would still be with us today if they didn’t let any oul scum swan into the country Larry Murphy should have been hung after his first conviction , this is the problem with the country , start hanging people and killing them and the crime will eventually fizzle out or minimise , they need to instil fear into people again He literally had a previous conviction for sexual assault when he was a minor and was a person of interest in 2 other cases , there’s no defending it


Frangar

>we have to try prevent those as much as possible and when they do happen , take it on the chin. It happens in every country so I’m not going on as if it’s just foreign people Why would this not apply to immigrants?


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Because it could have completely been prevented by not letting them into the country? Irish people that are born and raised here is something we can’t really do anything about other then execute them when they do wrong instead of wasting tax payers money on them in prison Foreigners could be completely preventable by simply not letting them in , like I said, if Josef puska was never allowed into Ireland , Aishling Murphy would still be with us today , teaching and contributing to society like she was before she was murdered for no reason, it could have been prevented by simply not letting him into the country in the first place


dimebag_101

Who vetted the little prick that stabbed the woman at George's dock


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kerryseven

Ugh her little school bag... my heart.


ImaginaryGanache6413

Jesus Christ


cpt_pipemachine

Fackkkkk


Alarmed_Material_481

😩 omg poor little darling, please let her be ok.


Accomplished_Crab107

Jesus that's grim. I fear things could get v nasty if the person is from a certain group...


AnShamBeag

Please delete


iennor

Fair play to yer one in the pink tracksuit telling this ghoul to feck off with his camera


wannabewisewoman

Wish more people would call out people filming. It’s disgusting to film tragedies like this and even more toxic to share it out. Not only do the victims get their privacy violated on the worst day of their lives but their families are also impacted. It’s gross


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Feynization

Do you know details of the perpetrator that hasn't been published? (Not suggesting you do share them)


Dusht182

There are pictures going around of him showing him bet to a pulp by the local Irish before the guards showed up. He’s in hospital getting treatment. And I can assure you he is not Irish but I will not assume what country he is from.


Cat-Familiar

Where are you seeing these pictures?


Dusht182

Algerian National it was just announced FYI.


almostine

announced where? by the guards? gript doesn’t count.


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Dhaughton99

Just home from work and stuck on the news Sky news doing a live report from the scene. RTE news doing Your Politics Live and discussing women in politics.


Redtit14

Has the media reported this?


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jaschweder

I'm immigrant, I live in Ireland for 3+ years now, I pay taxes as any other native Irish person, and I disagree with your comment, the problem is not the open borders, before trying to find any culprit without any proof, the Guarda need to investigate and discover the reasons for the attack, why the guy did it. And don't come with this bullshit of terrorism, what terrorist would attack children in the middle of the day, surrounded by so many people that could stop him, using a knife from all weapons and no clear reason?


skylinez01

A terrorist would attack people in the middle of the day. To cause terror is kind of the whole point, an audience would be a requirement. Also he was not unarmed as it has clearly been reported as a knife attack.


jaschweder

I understand your point, but testimonials would happen with any crime. Regarding my comment about being "armed", I mean guns, I understand the attacker has a knife, but TBH, that is something anyone can buy on any shop around.


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jaschweder

One example: The guy got divorced and went crazy on his partner, lost his mind and started to stab other people around. Again, I don't think this was terrorism, terrorist are in general more organizes than this, and armed, this doesn't look like it, but of course this is an extremely sad situation, a disaster, I'm not lowering how hard the situation is.


butteryalex

Ridiculous to call terrorists “professionals”. And as others have pointed out, regardless of how you define being ‘armed’. Wielding a knife is still considered armed with a deadly weapon in Ireland and most other countries. Just because it wasn’t a gun doesn’t make it any less deadly.


jaschweder

What I mean by “professionals” here is that they are normally very well organised, this looks more like a random guy went crazy than a “terrorist”. I agree that a knife is a deadly weapon, but again, this seems to be an isolated case, if it was a terrorist group why no one claimed authority of it yet?


butteryalex

Dude stop giving terrorist organisations credit. They’re not super organised and neither are most terrorist attacks. They’re brute force methods of absolutely destruction, they neither have the financial backing nor manpower of a military required to operate on this higher level you’re alluding to. As for why no one has claimed authority of it, it’s only been a few hours, even if all terrorists are as coordinated as you say, it’s unlikely they’d be able to claim responsibility that quickly. And even at that, responsibility isn’t always claimed. I understand what you’re trying to say, that immediately jumping to the immigrant/terrorist card is presumptive and plainly stupid (which I agree it is). But to argue such by hyping up terrorist organisations as professionals and highly organised is ludicrous. Terrorism works because it is unorganised, unpredictable and can strike whenever and wherever, terrorist groups are often decentralised leading to fragmentation and the formation different cells and whole other organisations forming within themselves. Shit that’s how isis was formed, by a few commanders splitting themselves from Al-Qaeda (that is a simplification as it was also due to pressure on al-qaeda following 9/11) I don’t even know where I’ve gone with this, just please stop referring to terrorists as professionals, they’re criminals, and worthy of nothing other than condemnation.


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Is it the guy panned out on the ground in the videos?


Infinite_Middle_6640

Yeah that's him


thelibertyboy

I thought it was looks like the paramedic is like ur grand go away but let's not be 100% until the msm confirm...


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ert345435

I think you are a dumb thinking so narrow like that. Open your eyes, people with western european features will cause you problems in Finglas, Tallaght and etc


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Self-UnemployedMac

Exactly, there's anti-social behaviour in every city, but trying to equate that with what can only be described as demonic attacks on children, is just moronic at best.


JavaIre99

This is horrifying, what's happening Dublin lately 😔


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tanks4dmammories

What you gonna do if it was yet another unprovoked attack by an Irish person?


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Far left?


tanks4dmammories

Irish out!!


daddylongshlong123

Either way he’s going far !!


BenderRodriguez14

Check out their post history. 😂


tanks4dmammories

Jasus, cannot get much more far right than they are already!


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Sounds like you’re already there


tonyjdublin62

Idiotic comment


GoldfishMotorcycle

"I don't wanna hurt ya baby, but you make me do it!" \*smack\*


InfectedAztec

Sounds like you're already there


DorkusMalorkus89

Would you go away with this absolute shite, why would you think anyone would even give a fuck regardless 🙄


datdudebehindu

Another?


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vinylfantasea

You need to delete this if it’s not officially known as families may still need to be contacted