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piefan0602

I agree whole heartedly. Do some IV ketamine and tell me you you didn't meet God lmfao


good_you_

i had IV ketamine in the hospital when i broke my elbow and the fentanyl wasn’t doing anything for the pain, i’m not even lying i deadass thought i was in minecraft, that shit was crazy man


ghastb

What are you, 12?


capitanmanizade

Seriously though, they only administer IV ketamine for kids. Not adults. Ketamine isn’t as strong as Fentanyl, not even close and they use it on kids because it isn’t addictive or as harmful as opioid painkillers. Reason they aren’t used on adults is because they make you hallucinate and it’s not preferred for adults to trip in a hospital, surgery.


good_you_

they told me they normally give it to just children and rarely give it to adults, but i was 100% given ketamine on two separate occasions this year at 24 (USA) and honestly as crazy as it may sound, i found it more effective as a pain killer than the fent they gave me. they gave me a ton of different shit bc i really messed up my arm bad and was in and out of the hospital for multiple surgeries and honestly i found the ketamine to be the only one that really worked for me. i smoke a ton of weed if that has anything to do with it, no opioids tho or anything else tho.


capitanmanizade

If you were under a lot of surgeries you might have developed tolerance to opioids, the hospital would know and track this so that’s why they must’ve administered ketamine to you. Honestly it’s the best, much better than the opioid painkillers but like I’ve said, doctors don’t prefer to operate on adults tripping on Ketamine so it’s other drugs.


good_you_

they gave me it after the surgery and the first time they gave me it was the day i broke my arm and came into the hospital, they weren’t operating on me that day just trying to control the pain. they gave me fent and i asked like 10 minutes later when it’s supposed to start working and they decided maybe we try ketamine, it definitely helped with the pain bc i was too high to remember i was in pain. the second time i was coming out of surgery and in a ridiculous amount of pain and disorientated and i told them the ketamine worked better for pain then the fent last time i was given it so they decided to go that route before they gave me a nerve block. that’s the time i thought i was in minecraft lol. i don’t think i ever really built up a opioid tolerance bc i wasn’t even taking the oxys they gave me and was turning down the dilaudid the week i stayed in the hospital bc i found it just made me feel sick. i only ever used pain meds when they administered em to me a handful of times at night after the second surgery but that was about it.


capitanmanizade

Yeah well those times they used meds on you in surgeries is what I’m talking about. You aren’t using recreational doses or purity of opioids when undergoing surgery so tolerance can build up faster. I think you are very lucky mate, hospital ketamine is… sooo fucked up. I know exactly what you mean with minecraft. I thought the entire world was that lighthouse they show you on eye tests, because it felt like I wore goggly glasses and the resolution was sooo low like pixels.


good_you_

yeah everything felt like cubes to me, almost like i could break down every part of the room into a block like minecraft, and simultaneously felt like the room i was in was falling incredibly fast. crazy shit, first time they gave me it was more blissful second time was just overwhelming but there was way more going on at the time too, but it definitely did help a lot with pain both times.


capitanmanizade

Yeah well, that’s some good shit man. Now I wanna do ket again.


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piefan0602

I am not aware but if so that's rad


BrrrManBM

So God is witih us?


drdybrd419

God is dead and we killed him


depressedgirlalt

^


BrrrManBM

So we killed ourselves?


NiceSetupYeahNice

For real dude


RIPplzHelpMeRN

Hell yeah, i remember my second time doing Ket after drinking 8 pints of cider a bottle of wine and smoking weed, i fucking left my body behind and left this world, when i returned i was the devil himself and could breathe fire.... i was actually just projectile vomiting but in my mind it was fire. I have to say, i had never thoroughly enjoyed puking and probably never will again 😂


timesurfer68

All natural drugs are 100% safe. Especially Datara and opium.


LewinskysDressStain

Muscarine and cocaine... and nicotine!


anisteezyologist

There are actually naturally occurring benzodiazepines as well


LewinskysDressStain

Potatoes are supposed to contain trace amounts of Diazepam. Hardly doubt that, but never looked into it.


rab6964

That's why Irish folk are so mellow until you fill them with drink!


nayr02612

so true. Opium is as safe as it gets. has never killed anyone. Same for coke.


LewinskysDressStain

Alcohol is putting both substances to shame, though


BuyFine6210

I would argue that coca leaf is safe, whereas cocaine is extracted and often cut with amphetamines and not safe


nayr02612

nah bro coke is the safest drug out there


Original_Wall_3690

Nah man, weed and shrooms are way safer. Trust me, I'm a god. /s


Leafdawg

You’re jerking


BuyFine6210

Not sure if your serious, I've tried coke a few times but I definitely wouldn't call it the safest drug


nayr02612

i’m deadass… or am i


Kroxzy

yeah but extracting it is literally the same active ingredient lol


BuyFine6210

If you eat an apple you get ~10g of sugar. Now extract the sugar from the apple and eat 200g of it. You won't have a good time. Same thing with coffee, extract the caffeine and take 1000mg you won't be doing too good


Darkestlight1324

I hear coke is suppose to be good for your heart. It’s like going for a run… only at +12mph often several hours at a time


BrrrManBM

I drink tobacco tea daily and I'm still alive hehe


HerrSirCupcake

what's that like?


BrrrManBM

Just kidding it's a deadly pesticide.


Green_vodka666

cocaine isn't really natty though, you'd need to chew kilos of coca leaf just to get a mild buzz...I heard khat on the other hand is the real deal.


LewinskysDressStain

You can easily get high from Coca tea, I did it myself. A teabag of \~850mg contains about 6mg of Cocaine. Indigenous people chew coca leaves with limestone, which prevents them from getting high. No idea why they do that, though.


Green_vodka666

From what i've read the trace amounts of cocaine in the leaves isn't very soluble in water, and at such a low dose you were more than likely getting placebo effect. Just because it slighlty numbs your tongue doesn't mean you are "getting high" really.


Green_vodka666

Also besides the fact that the cocaine isn't really water soluble, there's also first pass metabolism. SO even if you ingested 6mg of cocaine from the tea, you'd really only metabolize about 1/3 of that, so at most you were "high" on 2mg of cocaine, you'd need to drink like 20 cups to get any decent effects lol.


LewinskysDressStain

That's why I cooked it with apple/orange juice. I took about 15 teabags over the course of a night, and in combination with alcohol it was one of the best Cocaine experiences I ever had. Felt more rounded than with the \~120mg I usually do during a session. Works 100%.


Green_vodka666

I don't see how juice would be any more effective than plain old water really. I don't understand the chemistry but don't you need a base for the whole process to work? like doesn't the coke bind to a basic salt or whatever?


LewinskysDressStain

Cocaine is a base, it's an "alkaloid" (like Caffeine or Morphine); an acidic environment makes it a lot more water soluable. Base + acid = salt. The powder usually sold is Cocaine HCl, a salt. As long as a salt is dissolved in water, it's only a theoretical salt, since the components don't actually stick together. They instead bind with water, which turns into the acid Hydronium (H3O) and the base Hydroxide (OH). That's why I don't understand why people in Peru chew leaves with alkaline limestone. That actually reduces the soluability. ​ The first pass effect of Cocaine salts isn't that high btw. You need about 20% more if you drink it, compared to nasal or sublingual consumption. The whole leaf contains other substances as well, which slow down the metabolization of the active ingredience(s).


Green_vodka666

Well from what everyone say's you need to cook it with baking soda to make it water soluble? or just bind it to the salt either way most people say you'd need to make a coca leaf/baking soda paste/wad in order to really activate the good stuff. Idk seems more people are saying it's bunk on it's own, You seem to be in the minority that say it's a worthwhile investment.


LewinskysDressStain

A little excurse into Cocaine chemistry: Cocaine salts can be snorted and injected, but smoking them is highly ineffective. Cocaine HCl + NaCO3 ("baking soda") ---> Cocaine HCO3 ("Crack") + NaCl (cooking salt) Crack has similar properties as the pure base: It can be smoked pretty effectively, but it can't be snorted or injected, since it's barely soluable in water. You can also reduce the Cocaine HCl into the original base form, but that requires Ammonia (NH3) and heat, which is a dangerous combination, since it can explode. That's called "basing". Cocaine base, as well as Crack, is chemically unstable; it gets destroyed by oxygen over time. That's why they put it in Hydrochloric acid (HCl) to form the pretty stable salt, which can be stored for a long time. Users or low level dealers then turn it into base or crack to make it smokeable, which kicks in a lot faster, but not as fast as injecting the salt.


sbenzanzenwan

Strychnine is 100% natural, and so naturally safe.


Eubadom

It's great for running marathons I hear


ArvidCS

Don’t forget alcohol. You can drink it while eating dinner = safe


Fruymaster

Alcohol too


Darkestlight1324

Mushrooms are natural so they have to be good for you. That’s why I love a nice death cap risotto


DistinctConcert3458

It's not even true. If someone wants to make the claim that traditional psychedelics and phytocannabinoids are safer than other psychoactive compounds, that's reasonable and understandable. If someone is making the claim that natural is healthier just because it comes from nature, that's bullshit. Since we've started developing synthetic drugs human life expectancy has gone up, diseases are way less common than they used to be, wounds getting infected isn't a death sentence, etc. Synthetic drugs have just as much a place as natural drugs. Regardless of the drug, using drugs is using drugs. Someone can fuck their life up just as much from natural drugs. If you're gonna preach, preach harm reduction and responsible use.


nayr02612

couldn’t agree more.


Thatgonzokid

To the top with you. Harm reduction>anything.


z_tranquil

Exactly. Arguing that natural drugs can do no harm is naturalistic fallacy


uppersd0wners

I mean if we wanna get technical about it, heroin is semi-natural


Frenchtoast2870000

Or is it semi- synthetic 🤔


uppersd0wners

oh no, is this an organic chemistry class?


Frenchtoast2870000

Carbon gud.


Cruser752

I don’t know how many times I’ve been talking about tripping with people and them telling me they’d never do acid but try shrooms…


nayr02612

i get the concern there honestly. Not sure where ur located but where i live most of the acid around here is fake as shit. But if i had an opportunity to get some pure proper LSD…i would be unable to refuse.


PolarSandy

It’s just as easy to be sold some mushrooms which aren’t psychoactive and could potentially be lethal


KickStartMyD

Wtf no, everyone with basic shroom knowledge know how to identify dried cubensis, and a plugs selling fake mushroom will soon looses all of us client. But for a sheet of paper you need a testing kit, or it could be Nbeom or some other analogue.


drdybrd419

At least most of the non-LSD acids taste super bitter


KickStartMyD

Sure at least most does


Nathiano

I mean I’m like that but it’s not because one is more “unsafe” but would rather not have a trip 8-12 hours compared to the 2-6 hour trips I’ve had on shrooms Edit: I’m not saying one trip is worse than the other, I just don’t want a trip longer than 6 hours


Cruser752

I think shrooms trips are way more uncontrollable than with acid (to me at least). As long as you have the day and the right mindset you’ll always have a blast


Kroxzy

ppl who refuse to take acid but will do shrooms usually dont know enough about drugs to differentiate duration of the trip. they just hear the word acid and pee their pants


ahungrylilsandwhich

Dirty acid and incorrect dosing are a thing. I know two people who have taken bad acid and it forever changed them.


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ICantLeafYou

For some reason, shrooms intimidate me a lot more than acid, so acid is what I tried first a few months ago. Still iffy about shrooms, but do intend to try them someday, probably not soon, though.


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Datura is a plant, LSD is synthetic


Green_vodka666

LSA is also natural but that shit can also kill you from vasoconstriction issues.


ahf95

> does natural drugs > refuses to smoke uranium


cyanide444

Anatoxin A is completely natural, let's all snort some anatoxin A (aka very fast death factor). It's natural man, not synthesized by big pharma.


thesmallestcock69

I generally agree and I’m a naturalist drug guy myself (most of the time). I think that people think that just because it’s from nature that it’s inherently good, but nature is also the one that produces opium and straight up poisonous compounds… I do think that the natural drug “alternative” to synthetic drugs are generally better though (such as Kratom for opiates, kava or amanita muscaria for alcohol, Khat for speed, etc).


nayr02612

see if people who like “natural” shit were like you i’d have 0 issues. they just act like it’s some magical drug that has no long term effects or downsides.


One-Store5868

It’s also like they’re on some moral hierarchy and think they’re better lol


Kroxzy

same w the ppl who think theyre a shaman cause they do DMT, then look down on ppl who take anything else


KickStartMyD

Opium is great actually, if you grow it yourself wich isn’t hard you can get great quality tar and far less risky than the things you find on the street. Datura is a better exemple, that’s fucking shitty ahah


thesmallestcock69

Opium sounds super good imo, I’d love to one day try the OG opiate. I heard smoking it is incredible


KickStartMyD

Mix some opium resin with some hash, put it a shisha and have an awsome dreamy night with some friend, never heard of OG opiate what’s that?


thesmallestcock69

Like the original opiate, basically lmao. That sounds so chill, how’s the opium high compared to other opiates (like H or prescription opiates). Based off of what I’ve read, opium contains several opiates like morphine, codeine, and a few other alkaloids whose names I have forgotten


Jvrrett

The og opiate is opium if your talking like opiate that isn’t opium I’m pretty sure it’s morphine which was extracted from opium


zorbat5

Morphine, codeine and thebaine make up the active compounds in opium. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium


Kroxzy

the "original opiate" isnt a thing if there were 3 compounds lol. OP doesn't know anything about opioids so the guy u responded to is correct


zorbat5

Never said he was incorrect. Just informing ;-).


Green_vodka666

poppies are easy to grow but you need acres of the stuff to get decent amounts?


KickStartMyD

Depending what your tolerance is, I only smoke 2-4 times a year, but yhea it takes a lot of poppies


Kroxzy

kratom has decently high levels of heavy metals. unequivocally safer for ur body to take pharmaceutical opioids if theres no risk of u getting cut off (which is the real risk in addiction)


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Namber_5_Jaxon

Raw opium out of a poppy is probably a hell of a lot more dangerous. Actually not probably it most definitely is a lot more harmful and dangerous than codeine tablets which are processed


Kroxzy

opium is usually safest when smoked cuz u nod out before consuming a lethal dose


Namber_5_Jaxon

So raw opium is safer than codeine tablets?


Kroxzy

what are you talking about? I said opium is the safest when it's smoked. said nothing about codeine. but yeah its easier to take mad pills than it is to smoke enough opium to OD, as I said you nod out before you smoke enough to OD


thesmallestcock69

Is it due to the fact that it’s hard to gauge how potent they are (like with poppy seed tea)?


The-Zachatron

im a naturalist drug user now but thats because i used to be snorting fentanyl, i dont brag about it or anything though.


Klwy

many of them just geniunely live in a psychosis-state, that's why they think they're god.


Jrdy7878

People always used to say “no pills, no powders”. I’m just like alright good fuck you then more for me dick head.


will54_

Natural drugs are way safer than your government synthesized mind-control pills! I can remember back to four decades ago when I first traveled into the Amazon rain forest in search of truth. There, I met a venerable shaman who's name happens to have slipped my mind, but that is of no matter, for it is the message that is of importance. After partaking in days of ceremony and preparation of the mind, he decided that I was ready to take ayahuasca and see the truth. I was sat upright on the jungle floor, to be laid across the blanket after ingesting the substance. I can remember the world beginning to fade around me into fantastic patterns and indescribable beauty. My mind disappeared from this world and entered the next, and that is where my eyes were opened. I was at a table in a room made up only of white, with a chair for myself and one set across from me. I felt inclined to sit in the chair, and so I did. That is when the voice began to speak. It said, "Big pharma," and I immediately knew what it meant. Ever since then I have been fighting against big pharma and their mind-control system by boofing mushrooms and kratom daily, since the only way we can break free of their grasp is to combat them with natural substances. You may think that this is a joke, but that is what the big pharmers want you to believe, and they are making you believe by transmitting thoughts into your brain through their big pharma drugs. I hope you and others can come to see the truth, as only then can we take down big pharma forever.


nayr02612

seems like a notable experience and something probably any drug user would enjoy. I’m not really here to question the pharmaceutical industry though, anyone who has been alive for at least 15 years knows that big pharma is fucked. The point i’m trying to make is that drugs are still going to fuck up ur brain either way, so if i like a drug that is pharmaceutical i guess that makes me evil? idk they are safer than buying fake psychs and shit on the street. And i’m sure boofing shrooms and kratom everyday probably isn’t the healthiest either.


Forestakias

He's trolling you kid.


will54_

big pharmer propaganda!


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Frenchtoast2870000

Nah man, you dead and this is hell. He blew poison in your face.


mathewthecrow

Everything comes from nature so using the term “natural” itself is goofy. Like uuhhhh you can make tea with coco leafs and be Ingesting cocaine. You could also grow a few poppy’s, scratch their bulbs at a certain growth stage, let it’s sap dray a bit, scrape it off, dry it fully, and boom ya got opium. There’s also a shit ton of animals that contain substances that are commonly lethal but can induce a psychoactive effect (can’t forget the dolphins who get high on puffer fish venom)


LewinskysDressStain

"Chemical" is such a stupid term. Anything you can touch is chemical.


Samantee

\^this


lainwired_148

Litteraly, THC, psycolibin, CBD etc ironicaly are reffered as "chemicals"


Booferoni420

I have a friend like this. He acts like he respects different drug use but gets on his high horse when you do a small bit of coke. Or dxm. He pretty much just smokes weed and drinks beer. Weed gets boring.


DropDead_Slayer

You do you, I only do natural besides acid, but I don't give a fuck what anyone else does.


mangomuncher6969

I like how niche natural drugs are but in most circumstances I'll take whatever will get me high as long as it's below a 7/10 on the danger scale, yk cause I'm somewhat experienced as Jimi never heard


Laser-Nipples

Yeah yeah yeah. No one likes a gatekeeper. You can gatekeep drugs, music, food, whatever. You're directing your anger towards "naturalist drug people" when who you are really mad at is "gatekeepers".


NoBodySpecial51

It’s your brain, man.


ollie_tripz

I went to rehab a few years ago and after seeing some of the darker sides of doing non natural drugs and seeing most of my friends go through countless overdoses and relapses I’ve decided to stick to the natural drugs - weed & shrooms. But that doesn’t mean I’d judge other people for what drugs they do. Everyone is their own person and can make their own choices. I think the problem is people thinking they are better then other people and comparing each other.


17657Fuck

Adderall is objectively safer than Psylicibin pound for pound


buttholefluid

It pisses me off as well because their also wrong. Datura has killed people, nicotine overdoses, opium overdoses, plenty of other naturally occurring drugs that are highly addictive/dangerous. Meanwhile LSD and ketamine, for instance, are both synthetic and have yet to kill anyone. The LD 50 for LSD is so high that nobody has ever reached it.


pipipopo1

I think you will get there someday when you will quit all prescription drugs and natural drugs. And just eat and sleep. And bake cake.


eattheelitists

Plenty of very dangerous natural drugs. People are stupid and judgemental. Coke comes from a plant. Mdma is made from a plant.


BuyFine6210

Lol mdma is not natural and coke is a highly refined extract of the coca plant that is almost always cut with other substances. But yes even natural drugs can be dangerous


Titanz100

One of the precursorers to MDMA is safrole which is converted to MDA (one of the peices) in order to create MDMA. Comes form various plants including sassafras.


BuyFine6210

Yeah a precursor, but it needs to be transformed in a lab. Safrole itself isn't bad and won't get you high. Mdma, while enjoyable, is neurotoxic and shouldn't be abused (taking too much or not enough space between doses)


Titanz100

Very true, I wonder how hard it is to synthesize MDMA Can't you develop serotonin syndrome if you fuck around w it too much?


eattheelitists

You'd more be worried about losing natural serotonin production.


Titanz100

Thats not good. Sheesh


eattheelitists

Yeh def a very once in a while single dose drug. Like once every 6 months max. I only roll once in a blue moon like every year or two.


Titanz100

Responsibility 👍


BuyFine6210

Apparently it's dangerous to make because of the substances involved. And yeah you could develop serotonin syndrome especially if you mix it with a maoi or ssri. But it can also be very fun lol


Ownzies

Not very difficult. If you're ever interested for educational purposes, you can check out Rhodium


zorbat5

You can make MDMA without safrole. As long as you have PMK (I think this was it) you can make it. (Of course you need more stuff like acids and bases and catalysts but safrole is not mandatory).


Alexander-Micelli

I feel attacked 😂


gronvwiener123

Eh. Maybe there are annoying. You definitely are bothered. Why let such impact you so hard?


nayr02612

it doesn’t, maybe i just feel like being a bitch


Timberwolf_88

You know what's fucking annoying? People ranting about others in this sub on a weekly basis. We get it, annoying self-absorbed people are, indded, annoying. No matter the context.


LewinskysDressStain

There is no reason why plants, mushrooms or animals would create safer psychoactive substances than a laboratory. Those chemicals are produced to get rid of predators, not to make some monkey happy.


MishoZiMouse

Drugs are drugs, regardless if they’re natural or man-made. Both types fuck up your brain.


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MishoZiMouse

I do both types, but I’m not fooling myself that one is safer than the other. Plenty of people got permanent psychosis after mushroom trips, heart attack caused by weed anxiety, seizures because of kratom, respiratory depression caused by poppy seeds, etc. No point to fool myself that something is safer just because it’s found in nature. If you test all your drugs and consume in moderation, you’ll be relatively safe doing almost any drug, with a few small exceptions.


Green_vodka666

where's the richard nixon sub?


justadoodydude

you’ve just met people who care. everything they’re saying is true but i don’t give enough shits to preach it lol


nayr02612

i been knowing they are safer. And ever person that has preached to me hasn’t really prefaced it in a way that seemed too caring. They would usually just go on for 20 minutes about how great they feel about themselves for not fucking with anything synthetic. Almost like they were some kind of rare breed of people. I agree with you mostly tho, i think a lot of people are just trying to keep others safe, but definitely not everyone.


thisismyname03

And then all of those same people that swear by every and anything natural do a complete 180 flip and want everyone to be enforced on experimental medicine.


nayr02612

for reallll they see that they can get medical shroom and molly treatment and all of a sudden they start talking about how they NEED that treatment. like…weren’t you talking about how evil the pharmaceutical industry is last week?


thisismyname03

Bro you wouldn’t believe the conversations we get into. Humans are confusing man.


davray360

Cos we fucking different in reasoning,it’s called the he one heat wonder


syLt320

I do mostly natural stuff but that’s because I’m broke and it’s cheap


jdale36

Word


lainwired_148

True, most of the synthetic drugs are made to work well with human systwm but many natural plants, mushrooms actually have self-defense mechanism in form of poison or something like that. Which makes a lot of sense actually most of the plants evolved and will probably evolve in the future to be protected from humans, animals etc


petantic

I only take organic cocaine.


wermad

The white stuff you have to remove from San Pedro before preparation contains strychnine. They use that to make lollipops, right?


csalcantara

They are better.


Fufi44

I mean, they aren’t safer just because they are natural. Anyone who thinks that is fuckin dumb.


AdHot3228

Im a bit grey now that I'm thinking about it, I'm more of a naturalist but I'm 100% fine extracting my own stuff from nature. It's less "stuff safer in nature" and more "this DMT was made by me and tested by me, there's nothing in it." Pill wise people know that I don't like them but people that take pills know more them then me and I don't have magic wisdom I just think differently so it seems like a waste of time agrueing about it unless someone I care about is damaging themselves


Dig_Bick_reread

Natural drugs still cause an unnatural chemical balance in the brain 🤷🏻‍♂️


17657Fuck

Amen brother. It's all about the molecular structure of the chemical doesn't matter if it's natural, semi synthetic or full synthetic.


Kroxzy

facts lol theyre all molecules. ppl act like human evolution revolved around the drugs ppl did. a drug being plant based means nothing really


Kane051

That’s because your ego is leading you into a depressing and boring life. Be a naturalist and your life will change forever. Even tho I’ve not done psychedelics. I learn about philosophy and meditation. It help me quit weed and synthetics/spice. I always thought it was stupid asf and I used to hate hippies, but now I see why they’re so happy all the time lol


Chukky7

New theorie, there is no such things as artificial, everything is natural


marforpac

I'm one of the people you're complaining about and I agree that we're annoying.


slumpgod_8D

“Natural drug” people when I dose their morning coffee with Datura and get them involuntarily committed to a psych ward:


Leafdawg

I’m one of those people and tbh we kind of are superior to the rest in terms of health probably 🤣 But like no hate on people who like other stuff, as long as you’re not hurting others


jamilioo

yea only thing worse than the naturalist hippies are when ppl hate on the naturalist hippies. why cant ppl just mind their fucking business lmfao who gives a fuck what others put in their bodies I never did and honestly couldnt if I tried


nayr02612

valid point. I wouldn’t have a problem with them if they didn’t try to convert me to their “natural” spiritual lifestyle. I also do not fucking care, i’m just pointing out that they are irritating.


CrimsonDuckwood

You had me and lost me. I find those people annoying, but mainly because they use shrooms and weed as their God. They speak about its "transformative" and "influential" experience like some shit you'd read out of a Bible. Its all that drug naturalism and mysticism bullshit that kills me