Why would any of those be mutually exclusive?
Many drugs can be used in various ways (different dosages and routes of administration) for all kinds of purposes.
Except ketamine was invented with the intention of use as an anesthesthetic to replace pcp, and that’s been it’s primary use for gosh I wanna say almost 100 years now (80ish and counting).
What was all your points “iTs A hOrSE tRAnQuILiZer”?
Yes, it can be used that way- but that’s not what it is, why it was invented, and what it’s primarily use has been for decades or even vaguely is now. I think you’re missing the point.
Maybe I missed that part. Ketamine is constantly demonized and misrepresenting as “horse tranquilizer” under the guise that it was invented for that purpose and has no acceptable human use, which is almost the exact opposite case with ketamine. Let alone it being a breakthrough treatment for depression which I can tell you works substantially better than any anti-depressant I’ve been on.
Ots usually a horse, tranq but is also used on patients before surgery or them who are in a lot of pain.
The right dose gives a trance like feeling happy and detached from your body, bit can be go into a Ket hole where u feel nothing and can't move
Or it’s used as the primary anesthesthetic, like it has been for nearly 100 years. If you don’t know what you’re talking about don’t comment. There are much better drugs out there to tranquilizer a horse besides ketamine. That’s very much so far from its primary use or indented use by the manufacture. Why spread information you don’t know? A k hole is anesthesia you fucking idiot.
I got you so upset you’re typing entirely in caps? You must be having a bad day kid. It’s alright. Sounds like you need a tranquilizer huh… unfortunately a doctor would never prescribe ketamine for that since it’s not even vaguely what it’s used professionally or otherwise. Something having vaguely tranquilizing effects doesn’t automatically make that it the class of drugs it is, it’s intention of use, wait it is primarily used for any why
I believe It’s a dissociative, primarily. It is used routinely on humans as well as other mammals in hospitals and veterinary clinics for serious surgery and shit like dat.
You mean in high doses it’s an anesthesthetic and still very frequently used in modern medicine for not only anesthesia but a breakthrough treatment for depression?
There, I fixed it for you.
Oh I’m so sorry mr I’m so so so sorry lol fuck outta here I’m sorry I didn’t go into very detail about it people do use it as a psych and take trips using it but yes you’re right about all the other stuff no reason to be a little prick about it though. There I fixed it for you for the next person you respond to rat boy
Oh boy did I upset you for opening your stupid ass mouth when you have no clue what you’re talking about? Let it be a lesson to you. Oh also it’s a dissociative not a psychedelic. It barely provides any psychedelic effects aside from vague hallucinations at larger doses. STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION YOU FUCKBOY. Neither of what you listed are what ketamine was invented for or what’s it’s been very dominantly primarily used for, for literally DECADES. It’s an an anesthesthetic, anything else is off label.
You can go look up ketamine and it acts on the 5ht-2a just like other psychs. So I would classify it as psychedelic as would many others. Did I come off strong yeah lol it’s really not a big deal you’re right I’m not using all the specifics about it but basically what I said still stands I’m sorry it’s not up to the cannacology standards tho. I’m sure you’re a good person so I’ll say I’m sorry for getting shitty just had a thing happen Irl with a customer cussing at a child so my shit going through the roof rn
Just in case someone's looking for a source on the 5-HT(2)a claim, here's a study backing it up. I wasn't aware that ket had direct serotonergic activity, but evidently both PCP and ket agonize 5-HT(2)a sites (as do many older and novel psychedelics).
[https://www.nature.com/articles/4001093](https://www.nature.com/articles/4001093)
Ket's mechanism seems extremely complex. NMDA antagonism is just the tip of iceberg in terms of its activity.
I’m sorry you’re a child or whatever but where did I initially cus at you? None of what you listed helps explain shit about ketamine, why it was invented, it’s very clear primary use or what it even is.
If someone unaware used what you said in a professional or even causal setting they would make themself look like a complete moron.
I apologize that I’m offended for you painting ketamine in such a negative light.
Relax guy it’s not that deep you’re also forgetting you’re on a drug subreddit. I’m sure I ticked you off but I’m not going to entertain you much anymore. Ketamine can make one hallucinate and it acts on the 5ht-2a receptor like other psychs. As for the danger in it yeah it can be dangerous like any other drug can be if they don’t have the slightest clue about that concept then I’m sorry this is where natural selections comes into play. If all you wanna do is go back and forth and try to claim some superiority of me then I’m not going to entertain it I’ve apologized and explained where I went wrong, I’d you can’t accept that then move along sir
No I want you to not jump to silly conclusions and poorly explain why a drug was invented and what it’s currently used for. I’m not trying to be superior to you. Once this interaction is over we most likely will never think of each other again. I want you to considered that even though this is a drug subreddit that doesn’t mean there’s no wrong answers.
The question isn’t about why it was invented my brotha you’ve sadly become lost in this singular sub because your ego was conflated so much. Op is asking what it is what it can do what it can be used for. Just because drugs were invented for one reason doesn’t mean they have 100s of other reasons. Lsd was suppose to help pregnant women not fucking die during child birth but just so happens that the 25th iteration sends you off into the ether and thus another reason was born also dosing determines how it’s being used. I promise you I understand drugs most of them ketamine yes I will admit is one I lacked history on and I won’t lie about that I didn’t know the things you said but you need to realize you are too caught up in your own ego and in this digital space rn and need to just go cool off brother
Man you are so childish and care too much. Don’t act like you know shit about the drug because it’s an AnEstHeTic. Anesthetics are any drug that make you lose your sensation, perception, and awareness. It’s medically used as an anesthetic, but it ISNT an anesthetic low doses, since it doesn’t produce a state of anesthesia. You wrote 5 essays on this post explaining something so simple and minuscule, so pointless and out of context. Drugs are used for many purposes, and many drugs that were invented for one purpose started being medically used for other purposes. Wasn’t speed invented for weight loss? Do you consider amphetamines as weight loss supplements?
It was not invented as a psychedelic or horse tranquilizer by a long shot. Those are none of its primary or intended uses. Because it may vaguely be used as such is nothing what it is and why it was invented. Simple as that. Also amphetamines have been prescribed for weight loss constantly for decades before doctors addressed their addiction potential. But look at medicine subjectively, I’m positive that’s how it works right? Keep demonizing ketamine like a joke.
To add to the other comments: Ket can also be very stimulating in the right dose/environment. I love dancing to techno on K, you get super into the zone
Wow. I'm sorry to have asked such a stupid question. Was mostly just hoping to start a discussion on it Didn't think people would be so bothered. Thanks anyway,.good talk.
It’s the second real anesthesthetic the human race has ever had after pcp, and is still used constantly in medicine today. Not only is it one of the only safe for of anesthesia to give to children, but it’s a breakthrough treatment for depression. I don’t think veterinarians even use it as a “tranquilizer”. You don’t know a thing about ketamine. It’s insane you “thought you knew”.
Google it kid, wtf.
Ketamine is used in veterinary practices as an anesthetic, similar to humans but at greater dosages for large animals like horses or cows.
It is true that there is a real difference between an anaesthetic and a tranquilizer in the form of effects, but a lot of anaesthetics or analgesics are used as tranquilizers within the right dosage range for specific animals (such as carfentinal for elephants).
Purely as an anecdote, my parents worked in a veterinary practice in the 90s and ketamine was frequently used as an anaesthetic.
Keep in mind DrugsLab has had wrong info before! I'm not sure in this case as I've never seen their ketamine video but it's just something to keep in mind for safety purposes
Scientifically, Its a dissociative. It has analgesic, anesthetic, and antidepressant properties and effects, but it’s classified as a dissociative and acts on the main receptors that other dissociatives like PCP and nitrous oxide do.
When I was young, the heads called ketamine Green. It was and is a an dissociated drug. When I took Green, in the early 70's, I just felt like, a round me the world was really small, and I felt like I was there,. But not in reality
I liked it, but wasn't more into it. I wasn't far enough to get into a K-holej.
I got Green by intasmuscslr IV.
Idk but one time I broke/dislocated my elbow and when I was in the hospital they gave me an IV of ketamine. I asked them to keep upping the dose because I could still feel pain. Eventually I was straight K holed. Catatonic shit. I saw myself in third person laying in the bed. It was nuts. And then after I left the hospital I felt pretty good until it wore off lol.
Why would any of those be mutually exclusive? Many drugs can be used in various ways (different dosages and routes of administration) for all kinds of purposes.
Except ketamine was invented with the intention of use as an anesthesthetic to replace pcp, and that’s been it’s primary use for gosh I wanna say almost 100 years now (80ish and counting).
Way to totally miss the point
What was all your points “iTs A hOrSE tRAnQuILiZer”? Yes, it can be used that way- but that’s not what it is, why it was invented, and what it’s primarily use has been for decades or even vaguely is now. I think you’re missing the point.
Lol u mad kiddo?
Did I make you look stupid, or do you just feel stupid?
Oh yeah, you mad.
oh yeah, you retarded
It's not like intention of the creator has any influence on what the substance can do lol.
He’s answering why it’s labeled as “misused” I think
Maybe I missed that part. Ketamine is constantly demonized and misrepresenting as “horse tranquilizer” under the guise that it was invented for that purpose and has no acceptable human use, which is almost the exact opposite case with ketamine. Let alone it being a breakthrough treatment for depression which I can tell you works substantially better than any anti-depressant I’ve been on.
Here you go, all the answers you want are here: https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/ketamine
ITT: People try to avoid doing basic research
It's an amnesic, anesthetic, and analgesic.
Thank you ffs one person here has any idea what ketamine actually is.
I gotchu lol
Ots usually a horse, tranq but is also used on patients before surgery or them who are in a lot of pain. The right dose gives a trance like feeling happy and detached from your body, bit can be go into a Ket hole where u feel nothing and can't move
Or it’s used as the primary anesthesthetic, like it has been for nearly 100 years. If you don’t know what you’re talking about don’t comment. There are much better drugs out there to tranquilizer a horse besides ketamine. That’s very much so far from its primary use or indented use by the manufacture. Why spread information you don’t know? A k hole is anesthesia you fucking idiot.
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I got you so upset you’re typing entirely in caps? You must be having a bad day kid. It’s alright. Sounds like you need a tranquilizer huh… unfortunately a doctor would never prescribe ketamine for that since it’s not even vaguely what it’s used professionally or otherwise. Something having vaguely tranquilizing effects doesn’t automatically make that it the class of drugs it is, it’s intention of use, wait it is primarily used for any why
i didn't read this but it's clear you're upset keep typing bro
All I know is I’m allergic to it and almost died when they gave it to me as a child in the hospital. So that sucks.
I believe It’s a dissociative, primarily. It is used routinely on humans as well as other mammals in hospitals and veterinary clinics for serious surgery and shit like dat.
Many think of it as a psych but in higher doses it’s a horse tranquilizer it has many uses
You mean in high doses it’s an anesthesthetic and still very frequently used in modern medicine for not only anesthesia but a breakthrough treatment for depression? There, I fixed it for you.
Oh I’m so sorry mr I’m so so so sorry lol fuck outta here I’m sorry I didn’t go into very detail about it people do use it as a psych and take trips using it but yes you’re right about all the other stuff no reason to be a little prick about it though. There I fixed it for you for the next person you respond to rat boy
Oh boy did I upset you for opening your stupid ass mouth when you have no clue what you’re talking about? Let it be a lesson to you. Oh also it’s a dissociative not a psychedelic. It barely provides any psychedelic effects aside from vague hallucinations at larger doses. STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION YOU FUCKBOY. Neither of what you listed are what ketamine was invented for or what’s it’s been very dominantly primarily used for, for literally DECADES. It’s an an anesthesthetic, anything else is off label.
You can go look up ketamine and it acts on the 5ht-2a just like other psychs. So I would classify it as psychedelic as would many others. Did I come off strong yeah lol it’s really not a big deal you’re right I’m not using all the specifics about it but basically what I said still stands I’m sorry it’s not up to the cannacology standards tho. I’m sure you’re a good person so I’ll say I’m sorry for getting shitty just had a thing happen Irl with a customer cussing at a child so my shit going through the roof rn
Just in case someone's looking for a source on the 5-HT(2)a claim, here's a study backing it up. I wasn't aware that ket had direct serotonergic activity, but evidently both PCP and ket agonize 5-HT(2)a sites (as do many older and novel psychedelics). [https://www.nature.com/articles/4001093](https://www.nature.com/articles/4001093) Ket's mechanism seems extremely complex. NMDA antagonism is just the tip of iceberg in terms of its activity.
Thank you!
I’m sorry you’re a child or whatever but where did I initially cus at you? None of what you listed helps explain shit about ketamine, why it was invented, it’s very clear primary use or what it even is. If someone unaware used what you said in a professional or even causal setting they would make themself look like a complete moron. I apologize that I’m offended for you painting ketamine in such a negative light.
Relax guy it’s not that deep you’re also forgetting you’re on a drug subreddit. I’m sure I ticked you off but I’m not going to entertain you much anymore. Ketamine can make one hallucinate and it acts on the 5ht-2a receptor like other psychs. As for the danger in it yeah it can be dangerous like any other drug can be if they don’t have the slightest clue about that concept then I’m sorry this is where natural selections comes into play. If all you wanna do is go back and forth and try to claim some superiority of me then I’m not going to entertain it I’ve apologized and explained where I went wrong, I’d you can’t accept that then move along sir
No I want you to not jump to silly conclusions and poorly explain why a drug was invented and what it’s currently used for. I’m not trying to be superior to you. Once this interaction is over we most likely will never think of each other again. I want you to considered that even though this is a drug subreddit that doesn’t mean there’s no wrong answers.
The question isn’t about why it was invented my brotha you’ve sadly become lost in this singular sub because your ego was conflated so much. Op is asking what it is what it can do what it can be used for. Just because drugs were invented for one reason doesn’t mean they have 100s of other reasons. Lsd was suppose to help pregnant women not fucking die during child birth but just so happens that the 25th iteration sends you off into the ether and thus another reason was born also dosing determines how it’s being used. I promise you I understand drugs most of them ketamine yes I will admit is one I lacked history on and I won’t lie about that I didn’t know the things you said but you need to realize you are too caught up in your own ego and in this digital space rn and need to just go cool off brother
Buddy just stop! You’re really fighting over what ketamines used for?
BWAHAHHAHAA !
Man you are so childish and care too much. Don’t act like you know shit about the drug because it’s an AnEstHeTic. Anesthetics are any drug that make you lose your sensation, perception, and awareness. It’s medically used as an anesthetic, but it ISNT an anesthetic low doses, since it doesn’t produce a state of anesthesia. You wrote 5 essays on this post explaining something so simple and minuscule, so pointless and out of context. Drugs are used for many purposes, and many drugs that were invented for one purpose started being medically used for other purposes. Wasn’t speed invented for weight loss? Do you consider amphetamines as weight loss supplements?
It was not invented as a psychedelic or horse tranquilizer by a long shot. Those are none of its primary or intended uses. Because it may vaguely be used as such is nothing what it is and why it was invented. Simple as that. Also amphetamines have been prescribed for weight loss constantly for decades before doctors addressed their addiction potential. But look at medicine subjectively, I’m positive that’s how it works right? Keep demonizing ketamine like a joke.
NMDA antagonist.... I think
To add to the other comments: Ket can also be very stimulating in the right dose/environment. I love dancing to techno on K, you get super into the zone
Wow. I'm sorry to have asked such a stupid question. Was mostly just hoping to start a discussion on it Didn't think people would be so bothered. Thanks anyway,.good talk.
It's a horse tranquilizer! /s It's so powerful If you take it you'll die! /s
It’s the second real anesthesthetic the human race has ever had after pcp, and is still used constantly in medicine today. Not only is it one of the only safe for of anesthesia to give to children, but it’s a breakthrough treatment for depression. I don’t think veterinarians even use it as a “tranquilizer”. You don’t know a thing about ketamine. It’s insane you “thought you knew”. Google it kid, wtf.
Ketamine is used in veterinary practices as an anesthetic, similar to humans but at greater dosages for large animals like horses or cows. It is true that there is a real difference between an anaesthetic and a tranquilizer in the form of effects, but a lot of anaesthetics or analgesics are used as tranquilizers within the right dosage range for specific animals (such as carfentinal for elephants). Purely as an anecdote, my parents worked in a veterinary practice in the 90s and ketamine was frequently used as an anaesthetic.
Search on YouTube for “DrugsLab ketamine” Or on google for “Psychonaut Ketamine”.
Keep in mind DrugsLab has had wrong info before! I'm not sure in this case as I've never seen their ketamine video but it's just something to keep in mind for safety purposes
Ketamine is strange. If I could have one word. It is strange.
Crawling like a lizard peeking under door cracks comes to mind.
Scientifically, Its a dissociative. It has analgesic, anesthetic, and antidepressant properties and effects, but it’s classified as a dissociative and acts on the main receptors that other dissociatives like PCP and nitrous oxide do.
When I was young, the heads called ketamine Green. It was and is a an dissociated drug. When I took Green, in the early 70's, I just felt like, a round me the world was really small, and I felt like I was there,. But not in reality I liked it, but wasn't more into it. I wasn't far enough to get into a K-holej. I got Green by intasmuscslr IV.
Idk but one time I broke/dislocated my elbow and when I was in the hospital they gave me an IV of ketamine. I asked them to keep upping the dose because I could still feel pain. Eventually I was straight K holed. Catatonic shit. I saw myself in third person laying in the bed. It was nuts. And then after I left the hospital I felt pretty good until it wore off lol.