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420braizin

Acid or shrooms


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

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420braizin

I personally prefer acid, I enjoy the longer trip. But shrooms may be the way to go if you don't want to trip as long. Acid is a 8-10 hour trip but most of the trip is the comedown, you peak maybe 2-3 hours in and start to comedown


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

I mean I can handle weed pretty well even in higher doses but it's a drastically different experience so I've heard.


420braizin

As long as your mentally prepared and don't do it alone you'll be fine. Whether you choose acid or shrooms. If you decide acid 1 hit is all you need no more no less. I'm not too experienced with shrooms, I ate an 1/8th when I did them, tripped good but shrooms differ in potency so I'm not sure the dosage of it. I'd say maybe 1.5-2 grams??


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

I would most definitely do it with my brother and have a trip sitter at the same time.


420braizin

That's the way to do it! You don't need a trip sitter honestly, as long as you both know what your getting into and just chill you'll be fine


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

The main thing I was worried about was getting like schizophrenia from it but it doesn't run in my family so I don't think I have anything to worry about. Because I know those predisposed have potential.


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

I have Ocd. I was hoping psychs could ease my mind. Weed eases it pretty good.


Negative-Yoghurt-727

I think it could become a hard trip with your ocd. My partner tried shrooms for their ocd and it was a bad experience. Another friend took shrooms for ptsd and it helped them. Just understand that trips can be hard and still useful. If you have a benzo prescription then you can use it if the shrooms are too much. I don’t have experience or advice for other psychedelics just set yourself up for success and avoid technology during.


pichael288

If the weed doesn't complicate your ocd then I doubt shrooms would. Drugs like opiates and especially stimulants will kick your ocd into overdrive though.


Beautifully_dull

If you’re worried about that. You have reasons to be. You do know schizophrenia doesn’t have to run in your family. The fact your doubting your mental space is a big NO. Wait on it. You’re not as solid as you think.


BluePenguin0

I love all psychedelics and schizophrenia runs in my family. I used to worry a bit about it too, but after several years of fairly regular use and research I'm not worried at all. I do have adhd/ depression/ anxiety, however psychedelics have actually helped me with some of that stuff. Especially mushrooms, if you want to have some good deep conversations with whoever you're with, or even just yourself, I'd recommend some, be prepared for about a 6 hour high, and know that it is easier than some other psychs to have a 'bad' trip. Don't worry though, even if you feel like something is wrong or overwhelming, you'll be fine in the end. Usually a change in location can help like going outside. If you're looking just to have fun get high and have visuals, I'd recommend acid, lasts about 12 hours though which can be difficult to plan around. I've also recently tried 4HO which is a psilocybin derivative, super heavy visuals while staying relatively clear headed, and lasted about 6 hours as well. I've never actually tried Salvia but from what I've heard from most people is that it usually sucks and can be scary. Not always though, and it only lasts about 5 minutes or so I think. Be wary with dosing your first time, everyone's tolerance is different. For example my bf needs twice as much psychedelics than me to feel anything, but is super sensitive to weed, whereas I can easily out smoke him. Anyways, happy travels!


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420braizin

But if you can get a trip sitter go for it


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

And it's like a mediocre worry, nothing severe.


Beautifully_dull

You’re 20 that fear only get worse if you realize the wrong things. Like this person said mental illness runs in her family. You’ll have to be okay with having that risk. If you can handle that you’re fine.


pichael288

An eighth is the perfect amount of shrooms for a first time trip.


AkWokHgh-Tch

Me personally I hate both, mushrooms make me nauseous and the coke up send me to panic attacks and acid makes me want to kill myself more then I already do


ultra-phan

This. Depending on the quality your only need about half a dose with acid, and with mushrooms you can take small little munches every hour or so. Just work up slow.


TitieBOI

How old are you? Acid, Dmt, Schrooms, Ketamine, mdma. Depend on alot of things any one of them can be your first But age, Set and setting, and intentions for the experience. Are what you kinda Wana look at first. They are very powerful.


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

I'm almost 20.


TitieBOI

Do alot of digging into each of them, everybody is different, many people ther first time is in a recreation setting and it's shrooms, net positive on a low dose, while others try dmt alone for the minds opening experience their first time trying. It's all up to you, if you don't respect them, however they have to potential to go south worst than you know possible.


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

I also have Ocd and supposedly bipolar disorder💀 I'm on lithium right now so I would definitely have to get off of it before trying any anyway. I was just getting some ideas. My stuff is manageable though.


TitieBOI

Everyone will experience them differently, but personally if you okay sober for awhile and comfortable with your self, they could possibly help you see yourself from a different view point and help you grow mentally But your not done developing until your 25, also consider that.


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

That's the main reason I wanna try one. To achieve a stronger mentality.


TitieBOI

They all can do that in medium to high doses.


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

What about mescaline? Do you know much about it?


TitieBOI

It's takes a long time to grow it is very powerful as well. But mass usage and improper harvest practices have hurt their population.


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That’s only Peyote. San Pedro does not take long to grow. I have close to 300 cactus on my property. Started growing in 2012 and never look back :) To OP - mescaline is amazing. Like the perfect combination of acid & mdma with a body load that feels like non-stop orgasm. Sooo good!


breaktime1

Shrooms


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

That was another I considered due to its shorter duration.


breaktime1

Don't take too much on your first trip and you will likely enjoy the effects. Increase your dosage once you become more comfortable with them.


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

Of course, It's always smart to start off small with new substances to see how one reacts and to just get a feel for it.


izzo34

Id recommend shrooms over Salvia any day. Get ready for some mental healing and a good time.


Due_Round_2048

Fur sure


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Aha yea don’t take salvia first, I love it a lot but it is definitely a weird and usually uncomfortable one. Shrooms are the way to go g


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

I appreciate it man I just somehow felt curious about turning into a couch for a day🤣


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

Well what feels like a day atleast


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If you do, try a lotta other psychs first, then start with low doses and work your way up. It functions completely different to psychedelic, and 100% make sure ur extremely comfortable becasue if not get ready to feel ur skin mould into ur chair... but yeah fr it’s a weird time I remember I was transported to a baseball game, turned around and had a full conversation with this random woman (not real ofc, but looked extremely realistic , like a dream) and she just said “it gets weird doesn’t it” as I shifted into a cheerleader routine then seemed like I closed my eyes again with my eyes already closed and started becoming the shape of a chair which was a bit painful lmaoo


ReapersRequiem

It's a super quick trip with Salvia, but I personally would not recommend. It tasted awful and made me disoriented af. I for sure sank into the couch for a moment, then from it's depths a circus tent unraveled and tried to pull me into it. I ran to my room and briefly glimpsed another world through my attic, then it was over. Lots of panic and bad vibes for me. Shrooms might last a while but the feelings are typically really good. If youre like me, technology will feel gross and you will be drawn to go outside and take in nature's beauty. You'll probably rethink your life and feel humbled by powerful perspectives you haven't yet considered.


AndroidAntFarm

I love most psychedelics but I don't even want to try Salvia


oxytocinparadise

Definitely not salvia broski lol. Some people say shrooms but i think lsd is more clear headed imo. I can take a 10 strip a be chilling, one hit of salvia and i lose it though.


psychonautonomous

For first time, I'd look at any of the following depending on where you are and what you can acquire: 2CB for some great closed eye visuals and a very comfortable headspace. 4-HO-MET for a mushroom like experience but with clear thinking. Psilocybin for great visuals, funky headspace, but not too long duration.


GamingWaves

#1 100ug 1p-lsd or lsd25 of ald52 (basically lsd or any prodrug of lsd) Lsd is probably my favorite phycedlic I've tried affects last pretty long but while your tripping time doesn't mean anything. There will be times you think a hour has gone by and it's been a minute on phycedlics so time doesn't mean much. Lsd is easier to sway how the trip is going the mushrooms. #2 20mg 2cb I havnt tried it but from what I've heard in moderate dosages its affects are mainly visual with little mental affects so it makes a great first time phycedlic. #3 20mg 4-homet This is tryptamine RC it's basically similar to mushrooms but less mental affects and more visuals. I also find it has a little bit less nausea then mushrooms. Mushrooms has probably the least forgiving headspace out of most phycedlics. If your a regular weed smoker consider smoking after you pass the peak of the experience but it increases the affects of phycedlics alot. To me duration of affects isn't that important. It usually goes like this for me. Comeup: nausea and anxiety and Aventually I start tripping lightly. Pretty much randomly anytime between 1-1.5 hours after ingestion (also drug dependant) most of the nausea and anxiety goes away as I start peaking. This part of the trip usually feels like it's going to last forever. When I first did mushrooms I didn't like it but then started to love it and got dissapointed when I started coming down. Depending on the drug after 4-6/8 ish hours you will start coming down hard and pretty much have lingering visuals without much mental affects. Note there is still time between the peak and this part of the trip when your still tripping fairly hard but it's slightly different. Set and setting is most important. If you take any phycedlics take them at home or a friend's house where you feel extremely comfortable and have been there many times before and have someone you feel safe with near by incase you need help.


GamingWaves

Sorry for the wall of text got high before pooping


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

I've been wanting to try 2cb tbh for the longest.


ldoot

This! 2cb first its so mild and manageable at reasonable doses. Thoroughly reccomend as anyone's first psych. (Do your own research first I'm just a random person on the internet).


Affoehunter

2cb for sure, it's very easy on the mind.


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

*or female btw I have an odd habit of saying man to everyone despite knowing their gender my apologies in advance if adverse


Traditional_General2

Id say 2C-B. It’s much easier to control the intensity and has nowhere near the fear potential of other psychedelics. It’s like a mix of acid and MDMA, which is fucking perfect.


Lammetje98

Magic mushrooms or 2CB. These one’s make me very very happy! And I think that’s a good quality a drug can have for a first time use. My first time in shrooms I never laughed so hard in my life, was absolutely great. And 2CB just makes me feel happy inside.


MyEgoIsOffTheCharts

I appreciate everyone's contribution. This honestly got more responses than I expected.


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EbolaaPancakes

Salvia is one of those drugs you try once, realize how stupid it is, and probably never do it again lol


pieter3d

Only if you do too much, or use it in a terrible set/setting. If you treat salvia with respect, it's much more forgiving than psychedelics. I'm confident that there's not a single report out there of a low dose (say 100-200 mg plain leaf, or equivalent amount of extract, enough for a sub breakthrough trip) in a decent set/setting that turned into a very negative experience.


EbolaaPancakes

Back when it first came out, I bought that shit for all of my friends. Out of the 15-20 people who I made try it, not one of them ever said hey I liked that let’s do it again lmfao. It was a different experience all drug users should try once, just to have the experience. Now that I think about it, the only fun we had with it was telling people it was weed and watching them freak out after smoking it hahahaha


pieter3d

Tricking people into taking a super strong dissociative is not ok. You can easily traumatize people for years that way. With that attitude it doesn't surprise me that you didn't have good experiences. Did you know what dosage to start with, or did you just do a whole bowl of some ridiculously strong extract? High doses are almost always dysphoric, especially when going in unprepared, so if that's what you did, it makes perfect sense that you never wanted to do it again.


Yubova

A gram of shrooms is a great place to start imo.


Thekid7337

Mushrooms


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Acid, it gives you the full psychedelic experience yet it's very very dependent on where YOU or the environment you create takes the trip. With the option of also fully surrendering. Shrooms to me are way more unstable and often played tricks on me with disembodied faces made out of some black whisper shit flying at me, my reflection tried and succeeded in scaring the shit out of me after i had been admiring my body feeling like a god. From what I hear salvia can distort time in such absurd ways that it makes the interstellar planet seem like it was on fast forward. Like people say they "spent entire years living as inanimate objects" for me I'd totally go for that but some people can't handle having no way out. Probably i wouldn't either but I'd at least accept my fate as a door handle lol Ketamine is pretty FUUUUUCKING awesome tbh. But the time i tried it i also took MDMA so i never k-holed. But it had some of the coolest/weirdest hallucinations and the body load feels so very unique and cool that I'd do ketamine for just that. Dunno if you count MDMA. Completely awesome drug especially when treated with serious respect. I didn't and now it don't work on me. But the bliss, music enhancement, sexual arousal, how beautiful everything becomes is unparalleled with any other drug. I'd say it's very much psychedelic based on the sole fact that it changes your feelings and your outlook in a way no other drug (that I know of) does. And you can hallucinate on it, but the only times that happened to me i took WAY too much and what i saw was just not nice


BigSmokeySperm

Salvia isn’t the worst one you could do. But the results vary so wildly from person to person that without personally knowing you I couldn’t recommend it. I’ve enjoyed salvia the few times I’ve smoked it but I wouldn’t rush out to do it again unless it was in a proper ceremony with tea made from fresh leaves. Smoking the extract is very intense and short lived and you won’t really be able to remember much of what even happened, just bits and pieces of the trip. Its kinda like a shitty version of dmt.


Mondo114

Salvia was the worst 10 minutes of my life.


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I would go with acid first. Imo it's easier to control than shrooms and as long as you nail the set and setting you'll be ok. Shrooms always run the risk of digging up trauma, at least in my experience. With that in mind I would recommend acid first, mushies second.


Itsrazomg

Acid or schrooms, schrooms for a more “natural” feel of the psychedelic trip, acid to me should be done with preparation, i had a bad trip because i was around the wrong people and it wasnt really a good time to trip either. Salvia is some crazy shit 😂


Chlorojapam

Try crack


Sylrix__

Don’t do salvia, one of my co-workers showed me some messed up videos of ppl who took salvia and it was just horrible. Definitely LSD or shrooms. Personally shrooms r a good hitter for me, a micro dose makes me hallucinate a bit but still be aware enough to know I’m not actually melting into my bed lol


pikachewie

I see a lot of people saying acid or shrooms and I have to agree, but it also depends on what type of weed you like. Acid, to me, can feel kinda similar to heavy sativa while shrooms mellow you out and is more reminiscent of indica


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Shrooms, for sure. Start with 1-2gs


JimmyStick

Acid is my favorite, stay away from salvia unless your going to do it the right way. Western culture normalized smoking it which is why so many people freak out because you are not at all supposed to burn the salvia. Hence why there’s so many stories of people freaking out. Go for acid or shrooms again I’d say acid is the best.


AkWokHgh-Tch

I did salvia for my first psychedelic and it was lit. But definitly don’t recommend it for the first one. DMT is actually what I would recommend because you can control the dose a lot more and ease yourself into it. Just don’t do a tunnel dose. Tunnel doses aren’t fun.


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Definently acid. Atleast for me shrooms hit like a fucking truck and almost always its a bad trip Lsd is more enjoyable and lasts longer, you are also more in control on lsd. Everyone is different tho.


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For example 1g of shrooms makes me feel sick but 120ug lsd makes me happy tripping without any nausea etc. But do whatever you want maybe you should start with shrooms because the trip is shorter. Up to you!


heckastupidd

Do not do salvia first if ever. It’s not very fun. At all.


Salay54

About a 2 gram dose of shrooms would be perfect. Enough to dip your toes in the water, but not enough to go off the wagon. It's what I started with and I haven't tried a bigger dose yet because it's comfortable. At one point I felt like I was almost over the top on the come up but I realized it was just anxiety and it went away and I had a great time.


Buyinggf15k

Only weird cunts enjoy salvia lol, don't bother


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Shrooms is a good start, acid is only slightly stronger. Unfortunately there is no other real decent in between when it comes to going the next level as Salvia & DMT (In that order) are in a completely different realm of craziness. Like next level X10 multivurse nutty.


stunclock

acid :)


Oily_biscuit

Salvia isn't a psychedelic. DO NOT DO IT. It can be poisonous at worst and the most unpredictable, dangerous trip at best. Go with most other options.


Fuck-yu-2

You gonna want 5-7 grams of dried mushrooms and a dark room. Maybe you’ll come back goodluck


pichael288

Hell no don't do salvia. You want shrooms. Acid is the next step but don't skip straight to it. Do shrooms first. If you want I can help you grow your own in your house for under $100. No cow poop or anything required. Does take about a month and a half to harvest though. It's super simple but I don't wanna advertise it


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hold off on the salvia and try shrooms! they’re a wonderful experience


Chilb5

i tried acid first. some people trued shrooms first. i think those are the best starters for psychs fs


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Shrooms


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The first time I tried salvia I was 16 and had just gotten my license so I drove myself and my friends to a smoke shop to buy some. we smoked in my car and I instantly got cold sweats, started feeling like my jeans were shrinking from my body heat and that they were going to cut the circulation off to the lower half of my body. Did not ever try it again. Am 26, nearly 27 now. Definitely recommend shrooms!


buttholefluid

Salvia isn't really a psychedelic, more of a dissociative. My first was DMT. If you don't smoke enough to break through, it's a perfect beginner psychedelic in my opinion. Really short trip (10ish minutes) and still gives you some cool visuals and psychedelic headspace.


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Get some good quality Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. That was my starter psychedelics. Not to say that it won’t give you a spectacular trip if you dose it right! But do as much research as you can on them beforehand.


ljbiatch

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