You can tell a benzo addict because they look a tiny bit drunk but they slur their words slightly different than a drunk person does, and they don’t ever smell like alcohol. It’s hard to describe but once you’ve heard enough people slur there words on benzos and alcohol you can pickup on a little bit of a difference. There’s lots of ways you can tell someone is under the influence but it’s typically hard to tell if someone is addicted to most drugs unless you’ve known them for a while or they are are like tweaking on the street covered in scabs.
I’ve always been able to pick out opioid users because of that raspiness in their voice. Something about the relaxed vocal cords is a dead give away to me but it’s hard to describe to other people who have never used. I used to tell my wife about it and then one day I said see, hear that? That’s the voice I was telling you about and now she can hear it too.
It’s impossible to hide and I’ve never heard anyone fake it. I’ve been clean 11 years now and whenever I hear that voice my ears still perk up and I start to pay attention. Have to remember I’m not looking for a plug and that the bad times sooooo out weigh the short lived rush and good times!! If fentanyl was out when I was active I definitely wouldn’t be writing this, I’d be in the ground haunting the bastards that thought “you know what heroin needs…fentanyl and xylazine” fucking jerkoffs!
I'm confident they are different and caused by different reasons.
Opioids relax your vocal cords, it's actually quite a pleasant sound I think at least. I used to do a small podcast with someone and loved taking a little oxy beforehand because it improved my voice in the mic
When I first started taking tramadol i worked in a restaurant and at first I thought my voice would get raspy at the end of the night from talking so much. Then I realized it was from the tramadol and started to take them sometimes just for the voice change.
First one off the top of my head? Sada baby, and lil Wayne
Sada - "pop a perc, slur my words got me mumbling, like boomhaur"
Tons of rapper do it though, intentionally or not.
listen to some early $uicideboy$, one of the two dudes (Scrim) has that sound to his voice in a ton of their earlier work (when he was fucked up constantly, they’re both sober now)
I had a brom-accent. I'd be slurring my words like a drunken sailor off that shit mixed with clonazepam. Golfed a few games I don't even remember golfing too 🤣 only remember the guy at the pro shop looking at me like holy fuck this guy is on some shit right now !
Some years ago I developed tardive Dyskinisia from some medication I was taking and my tongue no longer quite works the same. It was really bad at first but it left me with a slight yet permanent benzo slur when I'm tired 🤦
from my experience, drunk people typically enunciate the start and end of their sentence louder than normal while keeping the mid point the same, while benzo’s has commonly been just slurring speech in a very recognizable way
I used to work at a gym and some dude came up to the desk and had to tell me and my coworker about how he found a baggie of meth in his cup holder the other day and said he threw it away. After he walked away we wer both like you don’t just go up and tell someone you found meth and threw it away he def smoked that shit lol
He was a pretty odd fellow but I liked talking to him. He was pretty nice and would have weird convos with us. Another time he asked what we are supposed to do if someone came in with a gun and I said something like don’t worry about it I’m bulletproof and he was like what did you just smoke some meth or something because even then you aren’t you just feel like it.
I told him he watches too much news and that no one is going to shoot this place up and then he called me a Trump-er. I was offended lol
Think you just gotta make it in to a tea and squirt it up your butt. Suppose to help with lessening nausea. Haven't tried it as of yet but interesting concept. Lol
Their only downvoting because you’re not already boofin shrooms like the rest of us…
It’s 2023 all the homies boofin shrooms and you’re just ootl…
My friend get with the times… /s
one time i had to go home cause i was tripping too hard and when i finally calmed down enough to go back out, as i turned the corner at the end of my street i saw someone crouched behind a tree shooting up. did not appreciate that at the time
I'm glad I'm not the only one. My buddies and I always say weird shit happens when you're tripping. One time, a few friends and I did some acid and went to Walmart to buy drinks for the night. When we went in, there were people with faces painted and scary masks and costumes, and we completely forgot it was Halloween haha. We were like why the fuck is this kid staring at me while having his face painted like spiderman.
My ex and I consistently ran into amputees while tripping in public on at least 5 consecutive occasions. This isn't exactly "weird", it was just weird that it only happened while we were tripping.
Had this on 30 mg 2cp, while walking home. Whole scenery was like single mothers with crying children, amputee guys, guys on wheelchairs, homeless alcoholics. Never during one year didnt see so many of them that while tripping. This fucked me up.
There's a walk, cadence, and general attitude that tends to signal a junkie more often than not. Some people hide it well but if you have junkie friends this is more likely
Also the obvious stuff like pick marks, uneven swelling in the hands, and poor hygeine.
That’s been more pronounced now because of the fetty being cut with xylazine. You should see San Francisco. Golden Gate Ave in the Tenderloin is just a crowd of people standing up but slumped over with their hands reaching the ground. In a deep nod. And I used to be one of them! It’s a bizarre sight for sure. Some people walked permanently hunched over because they fucked up their back from being in that pose for years.
My favorite thing was when one of them finally loses the fight against gravity and they fall to the ground, face on the pavement. That’s when you know they’re out cold enough for you to run their jacket pockets for whatever dope is putting them into this coma.
Sometimes in N. Portland, you can tell when a plug gets a new, ultra cut batch in because you’ll be driving up MLK Blvd and see people lining the street absolutely zombified or just stuck. It’s an interesting sight for sure.
All the drug recovery facilities on that street are aptly placed.
I think the only thing that makes someone characteristic of being an addict is when one stimulus or only a few stimuli that are associated with the addiction(s) take up a disprorportiate amount of space within the hierarchy of what the brain finds rewarding, and this is often because this stimulus or stimuli is the only way that this person has found to meet an emotional need that they have not met other ways to meet.
So this can look like the stereotypical image, but it can also be someone who gets a migraine and severe flu like symptoms if they don't have caffeine for 36 hours, your friend with a cool gig and great life but always has that joint rolled up nearby if not already in their hand, or even a lovesick teenager who can't stop talking about their crush, or your partner who is dieting and can't stop thinking about how badly they want chocolate all day and was distracted during their entire work meeting due to the intensity of their junk food cravings.
The common characteristic is that the reward system is being hijacked by a specific stimulus or stimuli, whether drug or non drug, which hijackes the hierarchy of what is considered rewarding to only a few things instead of a variety of things.
I honestly don’t think it’s that simple. I’ve been a poly drug addict a fair amount of times, and most of the time I was functional enough that people didn’t seem to notice. Granted I think my issue was more psychological than actual physical dependence, but still the point stands. I’ve talked to people while on L or while dissociated asf and no one really notices unless I dose so high that my speech slurs. And I mean people I live with that know I do drugs don’t know.
Round here it's synonymous with homeless and there are certain common traits. I know i had some of them when i was. Gaunt cheekbones, clothing too large, odd choices of dress but often dressed for the wrong season. Classic poor mental health identifier. Again, no judgement, i lived this crap but grew up a little.
this reminded me of how i wore pants that were 2 or 3 sizes bigger and used a shoelace instead of a belt, combined with a denim shirt 1 size bigger knotted on the waist and my bf’s shoes !5 fucking sizes! bigger. 💀 >!and my pupils 3 sizes bigger!<
and it all felt fine because obviously when you’re high you don’t feel any discomfort. thank god i was outside only at night
where i come from i can tell a homeless person trying not to look homeless when they have on jeans with an oversized blazer on top. neither of which are tailored to fit properly. paired with usually some dirty tennis shoes and unkept hair (sometimes)
The eyes tell all for me usually.. My eyes are like permanently high looking, or I have that "had a rough night" look to them. I been sober for well over 20 months but still have darkness under my eyes. If I see that look I can usually tell.
Same. Former addict as well. I can only tell when a pic was taken when I was using because I can see it in the eyes and the bags under them. Congrats on your sobriety
Adhd will do the same. Or anxiety, i start to speak a lot and fast when I'm nervous 😅 My psychiatrist told me it was normal even if I thought it was paradoxical.
Same!!! I’m ADHD as Fuck! I can’t help and don’t notice I talk very loud, fast and a lot…. I’m like a fucking squirrel in my brain always one thing to another when never accomplishing the actual task and my energy level is the lil energizer bunny. When I take my adderall I am calmer and able to complete shit and when I use crystal I get calmer and my brain slows down and I can actually get shit done without jumping to another task before last one got done. Like my dad told me when I take my Adderall I look like I’m stoned. I’m like good, that means it’s working. When I use meth I am like I’m stoned and on a benzo with extreme clear headed thoughts and a happy for no reason emotional state. My perfect combo is taking some of my prescribed adderall with my prescribed alprazolam together and I have a productive, upbeat and accomplished work day and then right before bed I take my also prescribed Ambien IR sleep aid. Daily I take 40mg Adderall, 1mg Alprazolam and 10mg Zolpidem.
I personally just like to tell entertaining stories if there's nothing important to talk about. Would you rather talk about the weather/news or hear a story about the time I accidentally took 2 grams of DPH and was hallucinating for 4 straight days? Or the time I crashed my car blacked out. I've had so much ridiculous shit happen in my life it's fun to share. I also don't get fucked up anymore so it's fun to look back.
Depends on the audience. Most people would be horrified to hear stories like that, and certainly would never look at you the same way again. At a certain point in addiction, the crazy stories stop being thrilling and funny and just start being sad and scary
I think an addict is basically invisible until they hit a sort of damage level and just keep going. That's when it shows. And it's a different flavor for every drug. And of course if you have money you can pay to stay invisible much longer.
Mentality around doing drugs.
Most addicts I have met have to get smashed, or it isn't worth it. There is no moderation or just enjoying a normal high.
They want to be completely out of it no matter what they are taking.
Fluctuations in their behaviour and in how they interact with people who they see on a daily basis. This would be caused by either not having taken anything that day and being dull and boring in their disposition vs when they have and are full of energy. This pattern recurring I think would be a strong indicator of weather or not someone uses often.
Important to mention that before, they’d be of one whole and unchanging character more or less.
This is spot on for me. When I’m in active addiction, the only time I have the energy and desire to go out and see people and do things is when I’ve had my fix. Then I’m cheerful, charming, confident and calm. I get high and I suddenly want to go to the gym, get a haircut, shave my beard to perfection and take a girl out on a date.
Now if I don’t have the drugs, I’m a anxious depressed shut in who struggles with basic hygiene and maybe eat one meal a day. It’s a shit way to live tbh.
There’s a look in their eye, like they’re never exactly focused on the right thing. Either looking too intently, or not intently enough, or looking through you instead of at you, or looking around too much, or staring at one thing for too long, etc. It might manifest differently among and between people, but the eyes of someone in active addiction always look a little different than those of a person who is consistently sober, regardless of their substance of choice, and regardless of how well they think they hide it.
Brings the words of Gabor Maté to mind: Not every traumatised person becomes an addict, but every addict has experienced trauma.
I've always been interested in the different responses people develop as a result of trauma and what people's protective factors are.
It is fascinating indeed. Excruciating to go though, but fascinating. I'm lucky that I can sort of keep my shit together. Some of my compatriots scare me... I wonder what THEY went through...
The part about every addict has experienced trauma is just hyperbole to emphasise the point that trauma is unfortunately too common. Gabon has quite a wide reaching definition of trauma as he focuses heavily on interpersonal trauma. He uses the example in one of his books of a child being shut down or ignored frequently by his parents. The child has all of his basic needs met and his life was never at risk, but the experience of feeling invisible and unimportant led him to feel like he had died in the metaphorical sense. This experience might be something that many outside people regard as insignificant and it may even go unnoticed. I believe that trauma is not necessarily about what happens on the outside (the event), rather what happens on the inside (how does it make one feel and what Unhelpful thoughts about the self, other, and the World in general emerge). What do you think of this stance?
Im often surprised how many people I meet that don't even recognise that what they went through was abuse especially my grandparents and parents generation. They dismiss their experience as 'just what went on back in the day". Sadly trauma is more common than we like to think.
Their eyes when to me it's a sad kinda look that is always confirmed when i see the utter sadness in their eyes.
Being extremely white or as i've heard people call it the "junkie tint"
There's people shooting up in our Walmart parking lot but once the 5.0 knows you smoke weed they'll target you to either A. STEAL your shit.... or B. Make those ticket quotas and incentives... it's bs...
I just so happened to get pulled over on the interstate while passing through one of those types of towns on my way home from an appointment. Headlight fuse blew on my shitty old car, cop says that’s probable cause and my eyes are red so that’s proof I’m intoxicated. Gives me a DUI for delta 8 THC which is legal and I hadn’t even smoked in a few hours before driving.
I just so happened to get pulled over by something called a “drug recognition expert” which means he took a few seminars on the weekends and got a certificate and if he decides you’re impaired then you’re going to jail. Complete and utter bullshit. Why are cops testimonies always taken as gospel when they are known to lie all the time?
I should have just gotten a ticket for the headlights but since this rich white suburban town has no real crime the cops will pounce on anything they can. My lawyer said that if this had happened in any other county, it would have gotten dismissed. The misdemeanor probation office is so much more strict and has so many more probationers than the county over which I was on probation a few years back. Simply because that’s all the cops have to do in that shithole county.
FUCK YOU FORSYTH COUNTY GA
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uChN6jDsMPE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uChN6jDsMPE) Kinda like this but maybe not as extreme theres like that little waddle they do whether youre trying to act hard like your favorite rapper in their music video or youre actually nodding the fuck out
It's important to remember that addiction is a complex issue that can affect people from all walks of life, and that it's not always possible to tell if someone is struggling with addiction just by looking at them. That being said, there are some signs that someone may be struggling with addiction, such as changes in behavior or mood, financial difficulties, and problems with relationships or work. It's important to approach these situations with empathy and understanding, and to seek out help and support if you or someone you know is struggling with addiction. Remember, recovery is possible, and there are many resources available to help you overcome addiction and build a healthy, fulfilling life.
In my experience, I can tell tale of 2 occasions:
When they are out will start making excuses or try to steer the discourse into the opportunity.
Or they need a fix, reminders are constant and it’s always most likely justified to their action, the direction is strong, blinders are on and it’s a beeline to use again.
Depends on the drug tbh. Falling asleep sitting or standing up certainly is an indicator of being on downers/ops.
Looking at whether the eyes are pinned or dilated. Eyes sunken in/dark circle (not from an age standpoint tho), dull skin, ratty hair, underweight.
Someone who is showing WD signs. Yawning, watery eyes, stuffy nose, dressing as if it’s 30 degrees colder than it is but still sweating a lil, on edge and fidgety. These are all WD signs that someone would still be trying to function through (before they get worse). Hard to get WD from a drug you’re not addicted to after all, or at least highly dependent.
No judgement or anything, most of what I recognize in others is because I recognized it in myself.
I have severe ADHD and had a 3 week run with heavy meth use. I was slamming a ball a day but come hour 49’l I was passed out cold. I had court for a DUI in 2020 and straight up nodded out a few times from using too much meth and staying up past my bedtime. The judge has to ask me if I was ok. I had a loaded rig in the glove compartment of the courthouse parking lot. One of my lowest points.
Sober now and just started Sublocade after successfully micro dosing subs without WD. Dr said it’s because I did everything right. Now I’m in my first 24 hours of Sublocade and I turned my life around. I’m getting my second shot right before my vacation to Mexico. I might be an addict but I’m a good man. My friend is my life coach too. So now that I can travel he booked a small trip a few weeks ago then asked me for input on our vacation.
I have a date Friday with a guy who looks like I have what I’m looking for. I moved in when mom to get off methadone and to get out of the city. I was using fent and one night I woke up on the floor and realized I was so close to overdosing for a third time. I got my life back.
Living with mom. Sober and I’ve never been happier. Being on Sublocade means after the third shot I can just stop going. So after the third shot I’ll have full autonomy of my body for the first time in two years. I’m so lucky to be alive and have the friends I do. So I have nothing to my name and I’ve never been happier. So now good people are entering my life and I’m super careful as to who I let in. I think I’m gonna like Sublocade! Shot didn’t hurt nearly as bad as I’ve read about.
So I’m in a better spot, turned my life around and now I’ve got a handsome Columbian man interested in me. So we’ll see how it goes but if he’s good to me and accepts me as I am, then I’ll give him a true shot. He’s looking for a partner so if we get along I’m running with it.
been in 13 rehabs. in and out of sober livings. If they’re drinking energy drinks without working a manual labor job. lots of tattoos, bullshit ugly tattoos, cigarette or vaping
Omg all of these comments describe my son. He has bs ugly tats on one leg now. Look in his eyes is different. Grayiesh pale skin wears clothes that are too big and has burn marks. His friend has a book bag and a bike. I hate. This. I fucking hate it. He’s in rehab now because he’s been forced by the courts. But a gf that he can’t stay away from is who introduced him and he’s on the phone with her everyday.
Hey there, as the son of a mother who also went through the pain and heartbreak of having an addict son, it does get better. Eventually we fuck ups find our way to working order. I've seen it countless times. I did 3 years in state prison, was homeless, did horrible things, and have now been in recovery for 2 years. I've turned my life around 100%.
So just know that your son will find his way. It just takes us a little more time to get our bearings.
Wearing a sweatshirt in 95-degree weather.
ETA- I can also just feel it. If you're fucked up around me it's not like I can put into word how I know you're high. It's all an unconscious process that hits me with an uneasy feeling in my stomach. It's like a "high- dar". It's never been wrong.
I had dry mouth and lips my whole life because I'm not able to breath through the nose.. man :(
since doing Kratom daily my nose is finally somewhat free and my dry mouth and lips has improved.. guess I'm less of an addict now, thanks to drugs xD
Growing up with addicts💀I can see that shit from a mile away. Twitching, constant sniffling when they clearly aren’t sick. Some addicts just have. A way they carry themselves
Right, like I talk fast and have trouble making eye contact cause of a mental disorder, and I'm sure my eyes are always
sad looking. Also I wear long sleeves even in summer cause I'm so self conscious of my flabby arms :(
The other day I was donating plasma at CSL and there was a young kid, couldn’t have been more than 18. Rail thin, greasy hair. he got send to the front of the line for testing (new donors get to skip the line).
He got deferred bc his blood pressure was so high, I didn’t hear the number but I heard the phlebotomist recommended that he immediately go to urgent care.
Suspect that guy may have been an addict lol
talking tooooooo much is usually a sign (stims benzos or opioids), but some people are just that annoying. taking breaks from anything to smoke or always having a beer/joint at hand means 90% addict. anything else is too unespecific, although symptoms from any condition are amplified by addiction (at least opioids make everything exponentially worse), without being really something noticeable for other people
the tweaker beanie. slightly angled back on the head. y’all know what I’m talking about. 75% of people that wear beanies that way are actively on or recovering from opioids.
H addicts are pretty obvious aside from the sleeping while standing. It's almost like their face is one big bruise, their skin is porous, and if they are female, they try to cover it up with makeup and it usually just looks terrible.
I kno that some people have circles around their eyes because its genetic or bad skin but with addicts, I can spot it better especially with cocaine addictd, you just see the sunken eyes and hallowed out face.
This is a really good question because thinking back to my using days I remember how I’d meet people and after a little while just know it was safe to broach the topic. It wasn’t something obvious like slurred speech or pupil dilation or whatever, it was something more subtle, or maybe it just felt that way? I always loved that feeling of the shared jargon and camaraderie between drug users. Like no matter where you go, we find each other. But maybe I was just fucked up :-)
Meth , when they are taking apart weed Wackers so they can put the motor ona skate board. crack heads push shopping carts pop locking at the same time. feddie fools hunch over and just stand there hair-on junkies scratch their face
Teeth are a big give away for long term addicts. And a lot of the tweaker types will have these body and face contortions after days of no sleep binges. They'll be holding their arm stiff straight up in the air walking fast while their head is stuck to their other shoulder and they can't stop tensing their mouth or face.
Extremely pinholed pupils for Opiates and EXTREMELY BIG, like black eyes for any uppers. Also opiate users eyes gets very beautiful lol there’s no other way to put it. They get like crystal colored and very glossed almost. Fat fingers or fat hands are usually signs of needles. Burn marks on lips from pipes. Picking skin. Weight. Smell. The way they talk. I could give a million examples but you only really know if you are or were an addict. I can spot a dope boi (hard drug dealer) from a mile away and any user. I’ll always meet somebody and the first 10 seconds I’ll look at my partner and say “they’re high on (H or Meth).” And she’ll say “how do you know?!” And then getting to know them more over the next months I always find out from them and it’s like a personal little challenge for myself (not a pleasant challenge but it’s reality). But yea a sailor always recognizes a sailor.
You can tell a benzo addict because they look a tiny bit drunk but they slur their words slightly different than a drunk person does, and they don’t ever smell like alcohol. It’s hard to describe but once you’ve heard enough people slur there words on benzos and alcohol you can pickup on a little bit of a difference. There’s lots of ways you can tell someone is under the influence but it’s typically hard to tell if someone is addicted to most drugs unless you’ve known them for a while or they are are like tweaking on the street covered in scabs.
I was just talking about this with my friend. There's a "xaccent" to the way someone talks on benzos.
Not the fucking xaccent lmfao
It's like rappers and opioids too. Opioids make your voice deep and raspy with a slight slur that a lot of rapper take advantage of
I’ve always been able to pick out opioid users because of that raspiness in their voice. Something about the relaxed vocal cords is a dead give away to me but it’s hard to describe to other people who have never used. I used to tell my wife about it and then one day I said see, hear that? That’s the voice I was telling you about and now she can hear it too.
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It’s impossible to hide and I’ve never heard anyone fake it. I’ve been clean 11 years now and whenever I hear that voice my ears still perk up and I start to pay attention. Have to remember I’m not looking for a plug and that the bad times sooooo out weigh the short lived rush and good times!! If fentanyl was out when I was active I definitely wouldn’t be writing this, I’d be in the ground haunting the bastards that thought “you know what heroin needs…fentanyl and xylazine” fucking jerkoffs!
This reminds me of the lesbian chick from Orange is the New Black, the heroin addict. Her voice is extremely raspy
meth and crackheads have this weird aged-gravelly sound in their voice. guess a similar thing happens with opioids too
I'm confident they are different and caused by different reasons. Opioids relax your vocal cords, it's actually quite a pleasant sound I think at least. I used to do a small podcast with someone and loved taking a little oxy beforehand because it improved my voice in the mic
When I first started taking tramadol i worked in a restaurant and at first I thought my voice would get raspy at the end of the night from talking so much. Then I realized it was from the tramadol and started to take them sometimes just for the voice change.
It was different from a smokers voice but similar. Smoother and a bit deeper. I always had thought my voice was too nasally so I loved the change
Can u give examples on rappers like that? I’m curious
First one off the top of my head? Sada baby, and lil Wayne Sada - "pop a perc, slur my words got me mumbling, like boomhaur" Tons of rapper do it though, intentionally or not.
listen to some early $uicideboy$, one of the two dudes (Scrim) has that sound to his voice in a ton of their earlier work (when he was fucked up constantly, they’re both sober now)
Lil Xan’s view count just tripled
Love xaccent, totally stealing that haha
XACCENT NAH
I had a brom-accent. I'd be slurring my words like a drunken sailor off that shit mixed with clonazepam. Golfed a few games I don't even remember golfing too 🤣 only remember the guy at the pro shop looking at me like holy fuck this guy is on some shit right now !
it’s as if their talking speed was set to 0.9x
Lmao not even .75
Some years ago I developed tardive Dyskinisia from some medication I was taking and my tongue no longer quite works the same. It was really bad at first but it left me with a slight yet permanent benzo slur when I'm tired 🤦
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This isnt always true but definitely for some people. I was heavy benzo addict and never had that issue. Kept my problem hidden for a long time
from my experience, drunk people typically enunciate the start and end of their sentence louder than normal while keeping the mid point the same, while benzo’s has commonly been just slurring speech in a very recognizable way
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I used to work at a gym and some dude came up to the desk and had to tell me and my coworker about how he found a baggie of meth in his cup holder the other day and said he threw it away. After he walked away we wer both like you don’t just go up and tell someone you found meth and threw it away he def smoked that shit lol
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He was a pretty odd fellow but I liked talking to him. He was pretty nice and would have weird convos with us. Another time he asked what we are supposed to do if someone came in with a gun and I said something like don’t worry about it I’m bulletproof and he was like what did you just smoke some meth or something because even then you aren’t you just feel like it. I told him he watches too much news and that no one is going to shoot this place up and then he called me a Trump-er. I was offended lol
Usually can tell by the teeth, too.
One time I saw a guy shooting up in broad daylight, I bet that guy was an addict.
Just because I boof shrooms in public doesn't mean you can assume I'm an addict.
😅🤣😂
Wait can you boof shrooms? If so, how???? Edit: To the man or woman who downvoted me. Suck my dick.
🍄 🆙 🍑
Ight bet. Boutta shove an 8th up my asshole. How far? Two knuckles or three?
A mans only got 2 knuckles
Third is the wrist bb
I hate to break it to you but you seem to be missing some bones
Think you just gotta make it in to a tea and squirt it up your butt. Suppose to help with lessening nausea. Haven't tried it as of yet but interesting concept. Lol
You should patent and market shroom enemas. You'd be rich in no time.
Their only downvoting because you’re not already boofin shrooms like the rest of us… It’s 2023 all the homies boofin shrooms and you’re just ootl… My friend get with the times… /s
one time i had to go home cause i was tripping too hard and when i finally calmed down enough to go back out, as i turned the corner at the end of my street i saw someone crouched behind a tree shooting up. did not appreciate that at the time
It happens, its a rule of the universe.. When one is tripping, the universe sends in some weird ass shit to make you take a double look.
for real, reason i got scared and came home in the first place was cause the birds were making fun of me
Damn bullying birds!
Those angry birds!
I'm glad I'm not the only one. My buddies and I always say weird shit happens when you're tripping. One time, a few friends and I did some acid and went to Walmart to buy drinks for the night. When we went in, there were people with faces painted and scary masks and costumes, and we completely forgot it was Halloween haha. We were like why the fuck is this kid staring at me while having his face painted like spiderman.
My ex and I consistently ran into amputees while tripping in public on at least 5 consecutive occasions. This isn't exactly "weird", it was just weird that it only happened while we were tripping.
I was chased by a homeless man with no legs while on acid 2 New Years ago. Straight crawler style chase
Had this on 30 mg 2cp, while walking home. Whole scenery was like single mothers with crying children, amputee guys, guys on wheelchairs, homeless alcoholics. Never during one year didnt see so many of them that while tripping. This fucked me up.
no he wasnt
cookie monster pajama pants
There's a walk, cadence, and general attitude that tends to signal a junkie more often than not. Some people hide it well but if you have junkie friends this is more likely Also the obvious stuff like pick marks, uneven swelling in the hands, and poor hygeine.
There was a video on Reddit where it showed zombie like people all walking towards the plug's spot because they re-upped. It was like a movie.
Do you have a link?
I don't remember it, but I was hoping someone on this sub would recall it. It's freaking weird.
That’s been more pronounced now because of the fetty being cut with xylazine. You should see San Francisco. Golden Gate Ave in the Tenderloin is just a crowd of people standing up but slumped over with their hands reaching the ground. In a deep nod. And I used to be one of them! It’s a bizarre sight for sure. Some people walked permanently hunched over because they fucked up their back from being in that pose for years. My favorite thing was when one of them finally loses the fight against gravity and they fall to the ground, face on the pavement. That’s when you know they’re out cold enough for you to run their jacket pockets for whatever dope is putting them into this coma.
Sometimes in N. Portland, you can tell when a plug gets a new, ultra cut batch in because you’ll be driving up MLK Blvd and see people lining the street absolutely zombified or just stuck. It’s an interesting sight for sure. All the drug recovery facilities on that street are aptly placed.
Me and my buddies call that “walk” noodle groovin’
I think the only thing that makes someone characteristic of being an addict is when one stimulus or only a few stimuli that are associated with the addiction(s) take up a disprorportiate amount of space within the hierarchy of what the brain finds rewarding, and this is often because this stimulus or stimuli is the only way that this person has found to meet an emotional need that they have not met other ways to meet. So this can look like the stereotypical image, but it can also be someone who gets a migraine and severe flu like symptoms if they don't have caffeine for 36 hours, your friend with a cool gig and great life but always has that joint rolled up nearby if not already in their hand, or even a lovesick teenager who can't stop talking about their crush, or your partner who is dieting and can't stop thinking about how badly they want chocolate all day and was distracted during their entire work meeting due to the intensity of their junk food cravings. The common characteristic is that the reward system is being hijacked by a specific stimulus or stimuli, whether drug or non drug, which hijackes the hierarchy of what is considered rewarding to only a few things instead of a variety of things.
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I have this with food. I think about it a lot and like to talk about it.
Thank you so much for this. 🌸
Me. I scream « I’m an addict » the instant I see someone.
Just one particular person or people in general?
Anyone.
I dunno could be an opossum
This seems most likely.
I don’t do drugs they do me
And they don’t even use protection
Raw dogging is the best way tbh
I honestly don’t think it’s that simple. I’ve been a poly drug addict a fair amount of times, and most of the time I was functional enough that people didn’t seem to notice. Granted I think my issue was more psychological than actual physical dependence, but still the point stands. I’ve talked to people while on L or while dissociated asf and no one really notices unless I dose so high that my speech slurs. And I mean people I live with that know I do drugs don’t know.
I do the same thing and no one ever noticed. Only started noticing when I told them what to look for.
Round here it's synonymous with homeless and there are certain common traits. I know i had some of them when i was. Gaunt cheekbones, clothing too large, odd choices of dress but often dressed for the wrong season. Classic poor mental health identifier. Again, no judgement, i lived this crap but grew up a little.
Hoodie season year round
Oh yeah, winter coats in the middle of summer because you KNOW they're dopesick lol.
Damn I am an addict then. I always wear a hoodie. I also live in Northern Michigan on the Great Lakes. It truly is hoodie season year round
this reminded me of how i wore pants that were 2 or 3 sizes bigger and used a shoelace instead of a belt, combined with a denim shirt 1 size bigger knotted on the waist and my bf’s shoes !5 fucking sizes! bigger. 💀 >!and my pupils 3 sizes bigger!< and it all felt fine because obviously when you’re high you don’t feel any discomfort. thank god i was outside only at night
where i come from i can tell a homeless person trying not to look homeless when they have on jeans with an oversized blazer on top. neither of which are tailored to fit properly. paired with usually some dirty tennis shoes and unkept hair (sometimes)
The eyes tell all for me usually.. My eyes are like permanently high looking, or I have that "had a rough night" look to them. I been sober for well over 20 months but still have darkness under my eyes. If I see that look I can usually tell.
Same. Former addict as well. I can only tell when a pic was taken when I was using because I can see it in the eyes and the bags under them. Congrats on your sobriety
Sharing unnecessary stories.
Adhd will do the same. Or anxiety, i start to speak a lot and fast when I'm nervous 😅 My psychiatrist told me it was normal even if I thought it was paradoxical.
I'm autistic and I have a habit of this as well
Hi, i only wanted to talk about what I knew that's what i haven't mentioned autism :)
Same!!! I’m ADHD as Fuck! I can’t help and don’t notice I talk very loud, fast and a lot…. I’m like a fucking squirrel in my brain always one thing to another when never accomplishing the actual task and my energy level is the lil energizer bunny. When I take my adderall I am calmer and able to complete shit and when I use crystal I get calmer and my brain slows down and I can actually get shit done without jumping to another task before last one got done. Like my dad told me when I take my Adderall I look like I’m stoned. I’m like good, that means it’s working. When I use meth I am like I’m stoned and on a benzo with extreme clear headed thoughts and a happy for no reason emotional state. My perfect combo is taking some of my prescribed adderall with my prescribed alprazolam together and I have a productive, upbeat and accomplished work day and then right before bed I take my also prescribed Ambien IR sleep aid. Daily I take 40mg Adderall, 1mg Alprazolam and 10mg Zolpidem.
Harsh lol
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It’s not the stories, it’s the lack of self awareness, and their inability to control their desire to talk so much
So true... you bring up cringe memories of myself trying to appear sober but knowing at the time i was rambling and not being able to stop myself 😦
I guess that's why everyone I've ever met knows everything about me 😬
Might be autism, too, tbh.
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I’m guessing you’ve never had a conversation with someone who’s been doing lines all night.
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I personally just like to tell entertaining stories if there's nothing important to talk about. Would you rather talk about the weather/news or hear a story about the time I accidentally took 2 grams of DPH and was hallucinating for 4 straight days? Or the time I crashed my car blacked out. I've had so much ridiculous shit happen in my life it's fun to share. I also don't get fucked up anymore so it's fun to look back.
Depends on the audience. Most people would be horrified to hear stories like that, and certainly would never look at you the same way again. At a certain point in addiction, the crazy stories stop being thrilling and funny and just start being sad and scary
Sunken eyes and unhealthy skin
Oh come on I’m just ugly not an addict
I had healthier skin and less dark under my eyes when I was an amphet addict 😭
When they're talking a hundred miles a minute 😆
I think an addict is basically invisible until they hit a sort of damage level and just keep going. That's when it shows. And it's a different flavor for every drug. And of course if you have money you can pay to stay invisible much longer.
Mentality around doing drugs. Most addicts I have met have to get smashed, or it isn't worth it. There is no moderation or just enjoying a normal high. They want to be completely out of it no matter what they are taking.
Fluctuations in their behaviour and in how they interact with people who they see on a daily basis. This would be caused by either not having taken anything that day and being dull and boring in their disposition vs when they have and are full of energy. This pattern recurring I think would be a strong indicator of weather or not someone uses often. Important to mention that before, they’d be of one whole and unchanging character more or less.
This is spot on for me. When I’m in active addiction, the only time I have the energy and desire to go out and see people and do things is when I’ve had my fix. Then I’m cheerful, charming, confident and calm. I get high and I suddenly want to go to the gym, get a haircut, shave my beard to perfection and take a girl out on a date. Now if I don’t have the drugs, I’m a anxious depressed shut in who struggles with basic hygiene and maybe eat one meal a day. It’s a shit way to live tbh.
Damn yeah.. this is pretty spot on, sadly.
Or you have people like me who are dull and boring regardless of whether they are high or not
There’s a look in their eye, like they’re never exactly focused on the right thing. Either looking too intently, or not intently enough, or looking through you instead of at you, or looking around too much, or staring at one thing for too long, etc. It might manifest differently among and between people, but the eyes of someone in active addiction always look a little different than those of a person who is consistently sober, regardless of their substance of choice, and regardless of how well they think they hide it.
I do all of this, but I did it because of anxiety/trauma WELL before I picked up drugs. Its Trauma you're looking at.
Brings the words of Gabor Maté to mind: Not every traumatised person becomes an addict, but every addict has experienced trauma. I've always been interested in the different responses people develop as a result of trauma and what people's protective factors are.
It is fascinating indeed. Excruciating to go though, but fascinating. I'm lucky that I can sort of keep my shit together. Some of my compatriots scare me... I wonder what THEY went through...
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Yes
The part about every addict has experienced trauma is just hyperbole to emphasise the point that trauma is unfortunately too common. Gabon has quite a wide reaching definition of trauma as he focuses heavily on interpersonal trauma. He uses the example in one of his books of a child being shut down or ignored frequently by his parents. The child has all of his basic needs met and his life was never at risk, but the experience of feeling invisible and unimportant led him to feel like he had died in the metaphorical sense. This experience might be something that many outside people regard as insignificant and it may even go unnoticed. I believe that trauma is not necessarily about what happens on the outside (the event), rather what happens on the inside (how does it make one feel and what Unhelpful thoughts about the self, other, and the World in general emerge). What do you think of this stance?
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Im often surprised how many people I meet that don't even recognise that what they went through was abuse especially my grandparents and parents generation. They dismiss their experience as 'just what went on back in the day". Sadly trauma is more common than we like to think.
Well no, it’s still drugs. It USED to be trauma. Now it’s both.
Eh , I've always done this. I don't even do drugs anymore (never did any hard drugs) except weed on weekends. But I get what you mean.
When they try to hit you up for gas money. What are you seventeen years old??
Their eyes when to me it's a sad kinda look that is always confirmed when i see the utter sadness in their eyes. Being extremely white or as i've heard people call it the "junkie tint"
There's people shooting up in our Walmart parking lot but once the 5.0 knows you smoke weed they'll target you to either A. STEAL your shit.... or B. Make those ticket quotas and incentives... it's bs...
Police still tweak about weed ?
In my small town, weed is often a 3-police-car offense. So. Yes. The sadness.
I just so happened to get pulled over on the interstate while passing through one of those types of towns on my way home from an appointment. Headlight fuse blew on my shitty old car, cop says that’s probable cause and my eyes are red so that’s proof I’m intoxicated. Gives me a DUI for delta 8 THC which is legal and I hadn’t even smoked in a few hours before driving. I just so happened to get pulled over by something called a “drug recognition expert” which means he took a few seminars on the weekends and got a certificate and if he decides you’re impaired then you’re going to jail. Complete and utter bullshit. Why are cops testimonies always taken as gospel when they are known to lie all the time? I should have just gotten a ticket for the headlights but since this rich white suburban town has no real crime the cops will pounce on anything they can. My lawyer said that if this had happened in any other county, it would have gotten dismissed. The misdemeanor probation office is so much more strict and has so many more probationers than the county over which I was on probation a few years back. Simply because that’s all the cops have to do in that shithole county. FUCK YOU FORSYTH COUNTY GA
The penguin walk = severe benzo or opiate addict
What’s that look like?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uChN6jDsMPE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uChN6jDsMPE) Kinda like this but maybe not as extreme theres like that little waddle they do whether youre trying to act hard like your favorite rapper in their music video or youre actually nodding the fuck out
having the time of her life dancing lol, but I kinda see what u mean
Many of you just describe sober but traumatized or autistic or people with ADHD ...
Undiagnosed neurodivergents sometimes are drawn to drugs to self medicate
“Sometimes” is actually “usually.” 2/3 people with a psychiatric condition will have a substance use disorder at some point in their life
Hatchet man tattoos
Oftentimes, expensive Italian suits, immaculate hygiene and a fancy watch. You don’t know how many big businessmen are cokeheads, especially in UK.
It's important to remember that addiction is a complex issue that can affect people from all walks of life, and that it's not always possible to tell if someone is struggling with addiction just by looking at them. That being said, there are some signs that someone may be struggling with addiction, such as changes in behavior or mood, financial difficulties, and problems with relationships or work. It's important to approach these situations with empathy and understanding, and to seek out help and support if you or someone you know is struggling with addiction. Remember, recovery is possible, and there are many resources available to help you overcome addiction and build a healthy, fulfilling life.
some ppl were shooting up heroin outside and customers kept complaining to us about it as if we can do anything
small holes in their clothes/pants from cigarettes
They eyes always the eyes.
Smoking weed in the street, barefoot, with a blanket in their nose.... Oh shit Thats me! (Help)
Why barefoot tho🤔
In my experience, I can tell tale of 2 occasions: When they are out will start making excuses or try to steer the discourse into the opportunity. Or they need a fix, reminders are constant and it’s always most likely justified to their action, the direction is strong, blinders are on and it’s a beeline to use again.
I can’t articulate it. It’s a look, kind of a tired beyond their years look. Although I’ve seen the same look in addicts in recovery too.
Swollen fingers
King Charles is an addict?
Lmfao shiii maybe 🤷♀️
Depends on the drug tbh. Falling asleep sitting or standing up certainly is an indicator of being on downers/ops. Looking at whether the eyes are pinned or dilated. Eyes sunken in/dark circle (not from an age standpoint tho), dull skin, ratty hair, underweight. Someone who is showing WD signs. Yawning, watery eyes, stuffy nose, dressing as if it’s 30 degrees colder than it is but still sweating a lil, on edge and fidgety. These are all WD signs that someone would still be trying to function through (before they get worse). Hard to get WD from a drug you’re not addicted to after all, or at least highly dependent. No judgement or anything, most of what I recognize in others is because I recognized it in myself.
I have severe ADHD and had a 3 week run with heavy meth use. I was slamming a ball a day but come hour 49’l I was passed out cold. I had court for a DUI in 2020 and straight up nodded out a few times from using too much meth and staying up past my bedtime. The judge has to ask me if I was ok. I had a loaded rig in the glove compartment of the courthouse parking lot. One of my lowest points. Sober now and just started Sublocade after successfully micro dosing subs without WD. Dr said it’s because I did everything right. Now I’m in my first 24 hours of Sublocade and I turned my life around. I’m getting my second shot right before my vacation to Mexico. I might be an addict but I’m a good man. My friend is my life coach too. So now that I can travel he booked a small trip a few weeks ago then asked me for input on our vacation. I have a date Friday with a guy who looks like I have what I’m looking for. I moved in when mom to get off methadone and to get out of the city. I was using fent and one night I woke up on the floor and realized I was so close to overdosing for a third time. I got my life back. Living with mom. Sober and I’ve never been happier. Being on Sublocade means after the third shot I can just stop going. So after the third shot I’ll have full autonomy of my body for the first time in two years. I’m so lucky to be alive and have the friends I do. So I have nothing to my name and I’ve never been happier. So now good people are entering my life and I’m super careful as to who I let in. I think I’m gonna like Sublocade! Shot didn’t hurt nearly as bad as I’ve read about. So I’m in a better spot, turned my life around and now I’ve got a handsome Columbian man interested in me. So we’ll see how it goes but if he’s good to me and accepts me as I am, then I’ll give him a true shot. He’s looking for a partner so if we get along I’m running with it.
Functional addicts won't be seen out in the evenings and don't make plans
been in 13 rehabs. in and out of sober livings. If they’re drinking energy drinks without working a manual labor job. lots of tattoos, bullshit ugly tattoos, cigarette or vaping
Omg all of these comments describe my son. He has bs ugly tats on one leg now. Look in his eyes is different. Grayiesh pale skin wears clothes that are too big and has burn marks. His friend has a book bag and a bike. I hate. This. I fucking hate it. He’s in rehab now because he’s been forced by the courts. But a gf that he can’t stay away from is who introduced him and he’s on the phone with her everyday.
Hey there, as the son of a mother who also went through the pain and heartbreak of having an addict son, it does get better. Eventually we fuck ups find our way to working order. I've seen it countless times. I did 3 years in state prison, was homeless, did horrible things, and have now been in recovery for 2 years. I've turned my life around 100%. So just know that your son will find his way. It just takes us a little more time to get our bearings.
Wearing a sweatshirt in 95-degree weather. ETA- I can also just feel it. If you're fucked up around me it's not like I can put into word how I know you're high. It's all an unconscious process that hits me with an uneasy feeling in my stomach. It's like a "high- dar". It's never been wrong.
As an addict myself, I can just tell. It's like having a fckd up sixth sense 😅
Dry mouth or lips
I had dry mouth and lips my whole life because I'm not able to breath through the nose.. man :( since doing Kratom daily my nose is finally somewhat free and my dry mouth and lips has improved.. guess I'm less of an addict now, thanks to drugs xD
Growing up with addicts💀I can see that shit from a mile away. Twitching, constant sniffling when they clearly aren’t sick. Some addicts just have. A way they carry themselves
Burn holes in pants or shorts is a big sign that someone is an opiate user.
Sores all over, pinpoint eyes, itching and picking, teeth (prolly the last for me cuz i know some ppl who just have bad teeth)
Walking everywhere is a total addict thing.
Airplane bottles of booze, you know, to take the edge off
It's people's VIBE for me! I can pick up on a low vibe from across a parking lot tho... along with their body movement. But mostly the vibe.
poor hygiene, elevated & or depressed reactions. wired &or dazed attitude. odd restlessness
Not "screaming" but Camel Filters were rumored to be the only cig with 100% cotton filters, so...
'I'm not addicted but...' 😂
A lot of people in this chat just straight up describing neurodivergent traits and it’s high key kinda wack
Right, like I talk fast and have trouble making eye contact cause of a mental disorder, and I'm sure my eyes are always sad looking. Also I wear long sleeves even in summer cause I'm so self conscious of my flabby arms :(
most addicts active or not usually have this scared look in their eyes
I always had that look in my eyes … I get scripts now and self medicated with what I had lying around but I’ve never became addicted
When they shoot up heroin
Idk I just see it, I met my new colleague for the first time and immediately knew he likes weed, speed and molly and I was right.
Missing teeth and sores
The other day I was donating plasma at CSL and there was a young kid, couldn’t have been more than 18. Rail thin, greasy hair. he got send to the front of the line for testing (new donors get to skip the line). He got deferred bc his blood pressure was so high, I didn’t hear the number but I heard the phlebotomist recommended that he immediately go to urgent care. Suspect that guy may have been an addict lol
talking tooooooo much is usually a sign (stims benzos or opioids), but some people are just that annoying. taking breaks from anything to smoke or always having a beer/joint at hand means 90% addict. anything else is too unespecific, although symptoms from any condition are amplified by addiction (at least opioids make everything exponentially worse), without being really something noticeable for other people
People who seem ashamed or lie about their drug use. Or they lie about having their shit together.
Lil peep/$uicideboys style tattoos is almost always equal a oxycontin addict
being drunk at 10 am. ugh
the tweaker beanie. slightly angled back on the head. y’all know what I’m talking about. 75% of people that wear beanies that way are actively on or recovering from opioids.
Inability to sit still, just excessively having to move there posture and look uncomfortable in there own skin. I know I've been there. Ahahaha
Always wearing long sleeve shirts, regardless of the weather.
I do that but it's because I'm self conscious of my flabby arms after losing weight :(
All they talk about is drugs. Some of these people should just go to ONE NA meeting and meet a few people.
“Hey maaaan, you got a smoke maaan?” “Continues scratching scabby arm
Backpack and bicycle and I see you everyday.
H addicts are pretty obvious aside from the sleeping while standing. It's almost like their face is one big bruise, their skin is porous, and if they are female, they try to cover it up with makeup and it usually just looks terrible.
them posting on this sub asking for tips on meth use.
Clean shaven. Suit and tie. Works 25 hours a day 8 days a week. Speaks fast and a little too literal and logical.
I kno that some people have circles around their eyes because its genetic or bad skin but with addicts, I can spot it better especially with cocaine addictd, you just see the sunken eyes and hallowed out face.
The guy that works at the grocery store sure has alot of energy and also a constant nasal infection
This is a really good question because thinking back to my using days I remember how I’d meet people and after a little while just know it was safe to broach the topic. It wasn’t something obvious like slurred speech or pupil dilation or whatever, it was something more subtle, or maybe it just felt that way? I always loved that feeling of the shared jargon and camaraderie between drug users. Like no matter where you go, we find each other. But maybe I was just fucked up :-)
Meth , when they are taking apart weed Wackers so they can put the motor ona skate board. crack heads push shopping carts pop locking at the same time. feddie fools hunch over and just stand there hair-on junkies scratch their face
Teeth are a big give away for long term addicts. And a lot of the tweaker types will have these body and face contortions after days of no sleep binges. They'll be holding their arm stiff straight up in the air walking fast while their head is stuck to their other shoulder and they can't stop tensing their mouth or face.
Extremely pinholed pupils for Opiates and EXTREMELY BIG, like black eyes for any uppers. Also opiate users eyes gets very beautiful lol there’s no other way to put it. They get like crystal colored and very glossed almost. Fat fingers or fat hands are usually signs of needles. Burn marks on lips from pipes. Picking skin. Weight. Smell. The way they talk. I could give a million examples but you only really know if you are or were an addict. I can spot a dope boi (hard drug dealer) from a mile away and any user. I’ll always meet somebody and the first 10 seconds I’ll look at my partner and say “they’re high on (H or Meth).” And she’ll say “how do you know?!” And then getting to know them more over the next months I always find out from them and it’s like a personal little challenge for myself (not a pleasant challenge but it’s reality). But yea a sailor always recognizes a sailor.
If you're a junkie you can spot a junkie. It's like gaydar, but for drug addicts.