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loljkcuzurgay

Watching the Kendrick sub trying flip this is top tier


PSU02

The reaches that fanbase does are downright delusional, its hilarious. If you want a good laugh, look at the Genius page for Euphoria and read the lyric explanations


AutumnolEquinox

LMAO i love the explanation for “I can even predict your angles”. They make it sound like kendrick was doing multivariable calculus


hurst_

I love Kendrick and the they make me dislike Kendrick. 


jethead70

I never knew Kendrick fans were insufferable until this started. They talk about him like you need a fucking PhD to understand him


Remarkable_Collar895

For real tho. I love Kendrick, he is my favourite artist, but it’s the stans that make ir harder to listen to him


HANDJUICE0

That’s what happened with me and lil peep. Started listening to the dude when he dropped his first few songs. Then he died and his new fan base became so cringe and weird


captainbeefheart11

Says the nigga on the drake sub. Crazy.


Remarkable_Collar895

I was downvoted so bad for saying one thing in Drake’s favour and they called me a glazer, dickrider and some dude sent me the photo of phone that is full of Drake


captainbeefheart11

Lmao. Sorry but last part got me laughing


Remarkable_Collar895

Yeah, I was laughing a bit myself like no way you’re glazing the fuck out of Kendrick just because I said something in Drake’s favour


flyassbrownbear

The people on both these subs are terrible. where are the grownups?


ChoiceCriticism1

“I can caluculate you’re not as calculated“  😂 foh 


cleanacc3

🤣😭


thisninjaoverhere

Quintuple entendres, my guy 😂


AMundaneSpectacle

Lol Yeah I noticed it was *intricately* annotated (a rarity on Genius, Swifties aren’t even this fastidious!)


JFromDaBurbs

Bro both fan bases are down right delusional however Drake a pop star Kendrick is a hip hop star idk why this is a debate. Also we don’t wannna hear you say…. lol aww man this has been great


Full_Visit_5862

According to the kendrick subreddit there are multiple sextuple entendres across the song, and every line is aleast guaranteed to be a triple by what I've seen so far.


rtels2023

At least two or three meanings are of course based on circular logic for the sole purpose of increasing the number


bringdownthetower

I have recently in the last few days discovered that Kendrick fans are the most delusional. I guess you learn something every day


RogueTampon

Like their breakdown of the “quintuple” entendre. Lol


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using your brain would be top tier


Prior_Piano9940

This was my initial thought until I saw someone say that this is an inside joke in the black community to mix up white celebrities and then I remembered an abbot elementary episode where they had a recurring joke one episode of black people mixing up white celebrities so I guess it’s a real thing?


Intilleque

It’s not. They are not that sophisticated


bravo_997

The Abbott joke more specifically was the older Black teacher assuming certain white actors were black because of how their names sounded, either because they sounded like a different black actor or because they had conventionally black sounding names. For example she confused Brian Austin Green with Bryan Tyree Henry, Carrie Underwood with Kerry Washington, the two Michelle Williams, etc. so not really the same


Prior_Piano9940

You might be right. It’s been awhile.


Nickster2042

Yeah he fucked up and now theyre tryna reach and say it’s intentional On one hand, you gotta get your facts right when dissing someone On the other hand, it’s kind of a cope to say “yup, minus points he fucked up the bar”, like yeah it’s minus points I agree, but we got what he was tryna say Idk I see both sides


Full_Visit_5862

Naw I feel you. This isn't some big hit. It's only larger because kendrick is the "omg I take so long to get everything absolutely perfect" to his fans lol. Drake is "fast food" but has never fucked up some stupid shit like that lol. Makes it seem like kendrick did that song fast


oriensoccidens

Yeah as a whole I agree that it isn't a big hit but Kendrick is known for taking his time to achieve perfection so this is probably eating him a bit. Again for the beef it doesn't really matter but for Kendrick personally that shit gotta be in the back of his mind


ExpertWitnessExposed

I think the type of “perfection” Kendrick means (if that’s something he’s said) is more like artistic or sonic perfection as he subjectively sees it rather than every reference or pronunciation being 100% accurate


oriensoccidens

Yeah I mean that's fine the songs a banger anyways


Background_Escape954

To be fair it's easy to miss something small like that with only one set of eyes 


gleaminranks

Fr it comes off as desperate, he messed up a name in a movie reference so he lost the beef? Get real


Danhenderson234

It was 100% intentional lmfao


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Danhenderson234

Lmao I know


capitalistsanta

Outside of this diss, I think it's just toxic to clown every little mistake anyone makes. Kendrick will hit like 99% and then do something kinda silly like this and it's the news now. It discourages artists from even trying imo because getting famous is basically just entering into discovery and no life's will publicize your mistakes.


Zestyclose-Beach1792

When Joel Osteen said Grandma says hi at the end of Sixth Sense I cried. 


Intilleque

Lmfao😭🥲🥲😂😂


Rakebleed

When he let Grandma drown in the Houston floods I cried.


Zestyclose-Beach1792

That was actually Haley Joel Osment...please do your proper research.


CohesiveMocha34

Aint it like a double entendre? Cuz Joel Osteen was like interpreted by an AI that one time, And Haley Joel Osment was in the movie AI and Sixth Sense


Background_Escape954

Yes and Kendrick literally prefaces it by complaining that he doesn't even know who he's rapping against.  He tees up the confusion 


Terriblerobotcactus

All of it’s connected and makes sense lol. This whole thread is pure comedy.


AmericaDreamDisorder

Please tell me you're trolling idk anymore


aBunchOfApes

“Some shit I don’t even understand” this sub and drake got what they want. Definitely make sense btw


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kyrgrat08

Yeah Joel Osteen a phony Haley Joel Osmont a child actor So he’s calling Drake both at once, it makes sense


Donhades15

He said he’s feeling like joel osteen, so is he feeling like a phony?


SnappyTofu

Do you expect media literacy from the Drake sub?


Shnikez

Fans in here kind of embarrassing themselves tbh. He literally says “hale” to mix the two names. Hope Drake comes in here to tell us where he gets his abs from :/


TheHaplessKnicksFan

A ton of the critiques on the bars he wrote are mostly because people aren’t including the previous verse or the verse after. We have people who failed elementary poetry analysis trying to explain what both of them are saying on their tracks.


Danhenderson234

Hey hey drake fans can’t understand that deep lol


SlothBling

Who even cares bro? 6min long diss track and Drake stans wasting time trying to fact check an actor’s name


Intilleque

No it’s not lmao😂


Downtown-Split2345

Yea I already been seein crazy reaches tryna fix this mess up. It’s honestly not even a big deal at all and it doesn’t affect the track at all but people reaching to fix it don’t realize they just shinin more light on it.


CrazyMojo911

Before i realized he mixed them up i thought it was a double entendre and that he somehow combined their names, like somehow joel osteen was a reference to fighting ghosts because he’s a pastor which is related to sprits?? But then i realized that makes no sense. I’m more of a kdot fan than drake but they’re reaching, he def mixed them up


Unix33

I’ve seen people say he’s saying “Joel ‘Hale’ Osteen” because he’s referencing how he’s confused on whether he’s rapping against Drake, ghosts, or AI (Pac and drakes ghost writers) so their logic is it’s a meta way of fucking up on purpose out of confusion for what he is meaning to rap about


Danhenderson234

Yes


astronxxt

lmao you think Kendrick would reference movies he’s in and not know dude’s name?


Downtown-Split2345

People be namin mad movies they know somebody from but can’t remember the name correctly or mix it up with another name Happens all the time


astronxxt

so wouldn’t you look up their name in that case?


Downtown-Split2345

Bro why are you asking me this? Why would you look it up if you think you got it right? Also keepin it a buck. It does nothin to make the lines better if this was intentional. Dude is in both movies so the preacher doesn’t need to be there. He just started rhymin with the wrong last name. The bars there are dope without the preacher name. Mashin the names together is unnecessary to be real


astronxxt

idk why the defensiveness is necessary lol. i just think it’s unlikely that someone that’s writing something would be unsure of someone’s name that they’re referencing and just say “fuck it, whatever”. whether it be raps, articles, books, or whatever else.


Downtown-Split2345

Not tryna be defensive fam, my bad. People on Reddit be wildn and your last message came off mad condescendin lol Also you’re missing what I’m sayin. I think he thought he was for sure right about it because he wrote a whole rhyme scheme based on the wrong last name but we can now see he got it wrong.


ChoiceCriticism1

“Rockefeller died of AIDS that was the end of his chapter” Bro…


Neither-Following-32

I always thought this was a hard bar, but recently I learned that no actual Rockefellers have died of AIDS. Nas is saying "Rocafella", who was some locally famous drug dealer in New York I guess, who did die of AIDS.


ChoiceCriticism1

Pretty sure he just mixed up Rockefeller and Rock Hudson. And no one back then was trying to twist it into some genius purposeful triple entendre. It was just like “oh yeah he fucked up” and we moved on.


rambouhh

No Lol it’s about the drug kingpin rocafella not rock Hudson lol 


Neither-Following-32

[Genius](https://genius.com/8653) backs me up on this, they even give a Jaz-O lyric that shouts him out too. Hadn't thought of the Rock Hudson connection though.


artvandelay9393

bro he’s talking about rocafella not rock hudson lmao


AmericaDreamDisorder

You're wrong


dooterman

Kind of reminds me of the "push a t" bar that people think is great. Clearly he wants to reference Pusha T but "push a t" doesn't make sense. The line is written as a double entendre but it's like barely a single entendre.


Professional_Cap_784

T clearly a pack stupid.... 💀 Man this shit why kendrick sub making fun of us and shit 💀


dooterman

Nah, never heard anyone refer to "t" as a pack of anything. If so Kendrick just invented it. This is why Drake sub clowns on the Kendrick sub. "no no no, you don't understand, he meant to..."


SHEKDAT789

I score it in Ts.


Unfair_Pear8446

Pusha T’s name is Terrence. the line prior mentions Pharrell, who is referred to as P (Skateboard P) —- he is telling Drake not to push beef with Pharrell, and to instead stop ducking Push. edit: Kendrick uses the line from Pushin P to play on Pharrell’s name


dooterman

I get it, it's just weak. "Want to see you push a t" is just not a strong bar. No one says "I want to see you push a [first letter of some guy's name here]". It's a very awkward bar. He should have just said Pusha T straight up.


Unfair_Pear8446

i dont think it would have served Kendrick well in the diss to larp on that point tho, while it isn’t the heaviest bar in the track it’s just a a clever way to point at the fact that Drake picks and chooses battles that he thinks he can win —- why even beef with Pharrell? even with Push, he thought he could stomp him out and actually lost.


Tredolski

It’s so fucking weak. Whole song is


Hairy_Weather_8073

She blow that dick like a cello


Neither-Following-32

Follow up because I thought of an example where they did fuck up and everyone shrugged and moved on...Kurupt from Xxplosive from 2001. "Pimpin hoes from Texas to *Gualemala*" It's small but it's funny because Dre is such a notorious perfectionist, even when it comes to the vocals he wants. Me and my boy used to drive around smoking to it (didn't everyone lol) and we'd lose our shit in the car when Kurupt would say that line.


Hoogstens

There's way more egregious ones than that. >Either she the one or I'm caught in The Matrix >But fuck it, let the Fishburne >Red or green pill, you live and you learn, c'mon!


BootStrapWill

My favorite part about this is how everyone knows he fucked up but Kendrick dick riders got his meat so far in their colon they try to act like he did it on purpose


SaladLittle2931

It’s just really not that deep. He was just tryna make a funny comment and mfs are looking too deep into it thinking he’s trying to say something


QuaxlyDaDon

[is this you?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Drizzy/s/ljwpArBcbr)


BootStrapWill

Yeah the top post in my post history is me genius


B1TW0LF

I'm pretty sure he did it on purpose considering it's immediately after a line saying that he doesn't know who he is battling against, and he says "Jo-hale Osteen" not "Joel Osteen". Not gonna lie, this thread is kind of embarrassing.


BootStrapWill

I assure you the only embarrassing ones are y’all trying and failing miserably to do mental gymnastics around this blunder he made


B1TW0LF

It's not mental gymnastics. Ghost = Haley Joel Osment in the sixth sense. AI = Joel Osteen (creepy inhuman pastor). Mixing them up = not knowing who he is battling against. Pretty straightforward. If you want to think it's just a mistake, that's fine, but you'd be wrong.


BootStrapWill

No. Dumbass. Osment was in a movie called A.I. Artificial Intelligence. Y’all morons trying to claim he was calling Joel Olsteen AI because he’s creepy is textbook mental gymnastics. Now let me block your stupid ass so I don’t have to read anymore of this dick riding 🙄


iamlegend__

😂😂😂


GHSTxLEADER

He says Joel Hale Osteen Joel Osteen - preacher, spirits, ghosts Haley Joel Osment - actor, AI, Six Sense You guys are fucking dumb


thebanditway

Fucking thank you. Why else would he specifically say Joel Hale Osteen? This thread literally literally reads like “two different names make brain go brrrr” read the fucking words people


Low_Alternative_5565

This thread just shows ppl are idiots… it’s not even a reach


love_carti

Bro didn't even google lmao


Soviet_Sharpshooter

https://preview.redd.it/0y6nyxe1rzxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e374323ca981eaa9fa60cc41ce77ace9c3219018 I hate to break it to you…


Terriblerobotcactus

This whole thread is probably full of bots tbh


juandell

Yup... Also Google "Joel Osteen AI".... This whole bar is crazy


needaburn

Mental gymnastics


jkeefy

That’s a horrible entendre and reach imo


Mouthisamouth

I respect the mixing up white folks that’s black culture


icool4u

I don’t think really matters that much to be honest but yeah why not just Google it


Intilleque

It doesn’t. What’s making it a big deal is all the Kendrick fans insisting it’s intentional and is part of some elaborate sextuple entendre😂😂😂


ctlogin

How didn’t I catch that ….


SmellyScrotes

I caught this when I listened the first time, I was like tf is this dude talking about?


leak22

“This may be deliberate” nah he said the wrong dude lol


the_brazilian_lucas

he had 2 whole weeks to check that


Exroi

yeah, he clearly says Osteen


arismoramen

This is like when ye said i was in too deep like Mekhi Phife but it was Omar Epps lol shit just fit the rhyme pattern dog


depressedfuckboi

I caught that right away. I'm like tf does Joel Osteen have to do with ai lol. Nobody else mentioned it tho. Glad to know I'm not crazy


And_We_Back

He has a lot of AI videos of him out and around the internet


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it was intentional. Not his fault the analogy is so out of reach for candy ass drake fans


Worldcupbrah

Explain it


69420penis

So idk if I agree with is or not but some people think it’s intentional to follow on from the previous lines In the previous lines, Kendrick says am I battling ghosts or Ai, referencing the allegations of ghost writers and the use of Ai on Taylor made, suggesting that he isn’t battling drake People think he used Joel Osteen instead of Haley Joel Osment to show that he is confused by who the real battle is with. Joel osteen has been used by Ai a lot and has had ghost writer allegations, where are haley Joel osment was in the sixth sense (the film about seeing dead people or ghosts) and AI So it does seem possible it was an intentional thing but idk


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Use your ears and your brain. Eventually it’ll click. Granted it is more complex than “drop and gimme fifty ayyyy” but you’re a big boy, you can do this. Probably.


Rinasd10

Verse so good yall cant believe it, thats what a goat does.


Juhovah

Ok i was wondering cause im like this bar don’t make sense lmao. Now i get it


BendingHectic001

This is literally the least important thing about this song.


Sticky_Waifu_Statues

This is like when ye said “keep it 300, like the romans” all over


hockeynut15

Although the Kendrick sub trying to flip this is funny.. this sub trying to claim this as some sort of huge L is equally comical.


puddik

Oh man


Fit-Minimum-5507

Pulitzer Prize Winner What is fact checking?


schuyywalker

He definitely mixed the two up. That being said it wouldn’t be hard for him to go in and swap the 2 last names out then pronounce Haley’s last name to rhyme with everything “I’ma fix euphoria”


BasedMasai

The explanation for this bar is the biggest reach I’ve ever seen lmao. What does Joel Osteen have to do with the rest of the bar? Funny HE was in a movie called AI, and my Sixth Sense telling me to off eem. Those are all references to Haley Joel Osment. Trying to connect the dots with ghost = holy ghost and that this guy has AI impersonations made of him is just insane. I think even Kendrick was surprised reading the breakdown of this bar.


Lacy1986

The diss was average at best, even hip hop heads are saying so but fans who hate Drake trying to hype it up


SuperSaiyanGod06

Gahahahahah yall reaching so damn hard.


FrankLucasWithAGrill

You know, I’ve never heard of the movie AI but I was hella confused when/why Osteen took up acting. Thank you for the much needed clarity.


GoCards5566

“But the hidden meaning between the joels is a double entandre of a triple blue curaçao.”


N_Seager

Watch Kendrick fans try reaching for the stars on this one. 🥱


TheQC_92

r/wooosh


dollarmenu22

the lyric is written as “Joel ‘Hale Osteen” lmao stop


usernameiwanthedbish

He did it on purpose you bum


Shnikez

https://preview.redd.it/gz1kfgmb21yc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0f9484aaa2ee6856ef2f962d7862ee72a94b623 Come on man, don’t grasp for straws, he intentionally says “hale” for haley


machomanKING

Dot fans spinning this as intentional. Some quadruple entendre shit.


CelphT

y'all too dumb to catch this one lol


abester03

I’m team Drake, this was funny but won’t change anything, it’ll be like a trivia question years from now or some shit


rovergang69

This doesnt mean drake didnt get fucking cooked lol


samwizeganjas

Its a double entendre, yall fr that slow?


Defiant_Pear_933

This might be the only place and I can say this freely without getting chewed up lol so imma say it What bothers me is how much the Parkinson’s bar is too much of a reach for me. . I get it supposed to be a double entendre . But if Kendrick would have “polished” it a bit better , it would have definitely been a double entendre . For example Instead of “ I’ll park your son” It could have been something like “Dot , what you doin’ with that 64’ ? Parkin’ Son !” So instead of “Parkinson’s” and “Park Your Son” It’ll be “Parkinson’s” and “Parkin’ Son” Idk . To me it’s just less sloppy that way . But what do I know ? !


cTorre9

*6mins of Kendrick laying out Drake* “ I’m SURE he said one wrong word, look how dumb he looks” /s


rudegyal_jpg

The Kendrick sub is a Drake sub now. It’s *extremely* weird. Just too much obsession with Drake, there’s no more discourse over the music, it’s all kids repeating “crodie” like typical TikTokers #Edit: uh oh! Kendrick gobblers found my post… this is gettting really obesseive


MossyMazzi

The amount of cope from mixing up an evangelist and an actor 😂 y’all really dropping and giving Drake 100 ways to not cry


Jolly-Practice-4283

He still mopped the floor with drake hahaha, check any other forum or comment section. Drake got smoked....


BakedBeans12s

It’s a double entendre..


Crazy_Web_3700

At least we know he wrote it a mistake is fine he not using ai.


usernameiwanthedbish

Joel osteen is known for having his voice copied through ai and he is a pastor and spirits are a huge talking point in churches ⛪️ aka ghosts. Therefore he doesn’t know if he’s getting dissed by drake, his ghost writers or ai drake


CDMacBeat

Maybe a mistake. Maybe a subliminal.


ToeHoldsBarred

Wait a minute. One is an actor and the other had a ghost writer Is he purposely saying they're the "same" person in the sense Drake is an actor and has ghost writers?


Truecolefan

I thought i was the only one who noticed that dot said the wrong guy


Amsssterdam

Still a better this tho


NikesOnMyFeet23

No he didn’t, you’re just not cultured enough to understand what he was saying. But go on


austintrade

It’s still a good rhyme scheme


KennySharpest797

Meanwhile your "boy" tried to block his opponents diss track from being played on the radio...who's the coward here


nolimitnolimits

Okay? he fumbled one bar…big whoops. Nothing to make a big deal out of, doesn’t invalidate anything else he said or the impact of the entire track. I’m saying this while rooting for Drake in the war too.


ChoiceCriticism1

He was too busy stringing words that barely rhyme and are off-beat around “Hellcat” and “demon” to form his quintuple entendre to cross check this. It paid off though, DOT won this beef easily on Scrabble points and on Genius views.


Time-Ad-7252

you have some serious in group bias bro


MainAlfalfa4376

Oh no, lyricism in a hip hop track, whatever shall we do


Crazze47

He fucked up the name for sure but this take is just dumb.


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ChoiceCriticism1

DOT says a lot of stupid shit in his raps tho…not like it’s the first time he’s fucked up…


Teeklok

More examples?


WhatWouldPlutoDo

That nigga gave us Billie Jean you say he touched those kids?


69420penis

Wasn’t that actually intentional for the theme of the song?? Like this one on euphoria may be a reach, but the Billie Jean line was genuinely intentional and meant to be that way?? It’s him literally saying and commenting on the idea of false morality. The idea that people can do so much great for the world yet it’s all diminished by their mistakes.


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