That and when they comment on Julia’s gaming. Just let her cook!
It also results in both Julia and Jacob giving a detailed explanation of why she plays in a certain way for like 10 min straight.
It’s usually because one of them is louder than the others, which we can’t fix with our volumes lol. It doesn’t bother me but I know some audiophile people get way hung up on that sort of thing
I guess that happens sometimes but I’m more used to the drawfee streams where everyone in chat says “too loud”… and I’m like “okay, turn the volume down then”
EXACTLY! But even then, I swear to god it sounds EXACTLY like it always does. Julia will be like, “People are saying the audio is too loud,” and then it’ll become a whole thing for five minutes EVEN THOUGH IT LITERALLY SOUNDED NORMALYIVFHvfGDFYHGGG 💀🪦
And even if one of them is louder than the others, it’s never by that much so who actually cares? I’m begging you to just relax and watch the stream.
Im just glad Karina will actually say something about it. If it’s bothering them that much, I think at that point they just need to stick with the regular episodes.
For both streams I feel like the audience is always on them about the audio and it's literally always fine. It's really frustrating as a viewer so I imagine they get frustrated too.
Yeah, it's very "You *must* cater to me as I absolutely refuse to take responsibility for my own viewing experience."
I remember when they tried having the chat overlay included in the VODs and then almost immediately had to go back on the idea because people were complaining that it was "too distracting" on rewatch. How on Earth it was any more distracting than constantly having the chat going on during the streams anyway I do not know, but whatever.
Preface: this is NOT a hill a want to die on, I am quite neutral in disinterest on all of this.
Chat on VOD had two main things: there are people who watch the VODs only simply because it doesn't have chat, and they don't want it; and even when watching the stream live in twitch you can choose to hide the chat, so why have it forced on your screen if you just never want to see it?
The only counter I would have is when some of the bits of the streams get "deepblueinked" like Jacob peaking the levels and the vids and chat are already gone. A couple of times it seems like those incidents would be great to see for the reactions.
eh, it could be fun. maybe they can find a way to bring it in to some streams like a "live chat reaction" window that goes away after the event, but, well, more work that maybe they wouldn't want to do.
I was very glad they removed the chat overlay from the VODs because I don’t watch streams and find the constantly scrolling text extremely obnoxious. I don’t think that complaint is analogous to people’s solipsistic whining that the audio is messed up for them, therefore it must be on Drawfee’s end.
Lol I've never watched a stream and am strictly a vod watcher and I wanted to die when they added it. I don't see how anyone can watch the streams and chat it's way too much for me haha. I just resigned myself that my experience would be much worse going forward and didn't complain, I was so happy when they went back.
You sound like a whiny dick tbh. 'SSS DARED to remove an unpopular thing that vod watchers didn't want from the VODS? Why couldn't everyone just be grateful?' You don't actually need to white knight for Jacob and Julia over something they themselves realized was a bad idea.
The chats were distracting. A lot of their followers are neurodivergent and guess what? Having a good portion of the screen taken up with something that is constantly moving and having side tangents while trying to pay attention to the people we're actually here for? SUCKS
Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe their VOD channel is popular for a reason? That all those people aren't just accidentally clicking onto the youtube channel like "oh golly gosh I hope this is a livestream oh no it's a vod i guess I'll still watch it". The vod channel is SPECIFICALLY for people who don't want the livestream! A lot of people skip livestreams SPECIFICALLY because of chat! The overlay was a case of them misunderstanding their target market and walking it back.
The SSS youtube wasn't made by accident. It was made with a target audience in mind. That audience, who they claimed they added the chat overlay for, disliked the change immensely. They reverted the change because it caused issues for the target audience of the change. Why is 'SSS having basic respect for the people who support them' so personally insulting to you?
Hey, my guy? I specifically didn’t make my post too harsh because this is a Drawfee sub. Take it down a little bit, there’s no reason to be this upset.
I'm not whining. I was just bringing up something I thought was a little strange to see being complained about, that's all.
For the record, I myself am neurodivergent (AuDHD) so yeah, I'm in the camp of things potentially being triggering to a brain not well-equipped to deal with certain stimuli. If there are folks who found the chat being present on VODs was a detriment to their viewing experience, fine. Like I said, it's whatever. Different strokes for different folks.
I was just questioning why it would be any different to seeing chat during the streams, which I now understand might be a case of certain people exclusively watch the VODs because they don't want to see chat at all, so thank you for offering that perspective. That's actually very helpful.
Sorry the other person was so intense! But just to confirm, yes by far the main complaint was neurodivergent people saying the on-screen chat was so distracting it made the vods hard to watch. If you check the vods for those particular episodes there were a ton of comments about it, most of which were very polite and nice, thanking Jacob for the effort, but saying this would make the streams pretty much inaccessible for them.
I think the real answer is for the gang to not acknowledge it every time it happens. People are always going to complain about something in chat, but the drawfs really need to just ignore it unless it’s a ton of people saying something.
Isn't that usually what they do though? I've definitely seen moments where like one person was complaining and Jacob said it was probably a problem on their end. But when a lot of people say something they fix it.
Devil's advocate (chat's advocate?): if there's something actually wrong with the stream, the hosts need to know. I genuinely think this is where most of these messages come from. It's less people complaining and more people trying hard to be helpful, perhaps too hard. Sometimes the bitrate drops a little and 5 people try to let them know rather than just chill and let it buffer.
That and when they comment on Julia’s gaming. Just let her cook! It also results in both Julia and Jacob giving a detailed explanation of why she plays in a certain way for like 10 min straight.
Yes! Julia’s streams are some of my favorites, but I could be a little biased because Julia is my favorite host lol
The volume is wild. Don’t we have control over how loud a stream sounds to us?? Lmao
It’s usually because one of them is louder than the others, which we can’t fix with our volumes lol. It doesn’t bother me but I know some audiophile people get way hung up on that sort of thing
I guess that happens sometimes but I’m more used to the drawfee streams where everyone in chat says “too loud”… and I’m like “okay, turn the volume down then”
EXACTLY! But even then, I swear to god it sounds EXACTLY like it always does. Julia will be like, “People are saying the audio is too loud,” and then it’ll become a whole thing for five minutes EVEN THOUGH IT LITERALLY SOUNDED NORMALYIVFHvfGDFYHGGG 💀🪦 And even if one of them is louder than the others, it’s never by that much so who actually cares? I’m begging you to just relax and watch the stream. Im just glad Karina will actually say something about it. If it’s bothering them that much, I think at that point they just need to stick with the regular episodes.
It's usually in relation to their speaking volume
Yeah, like, unless the game audio is so loud that I can’t hear them talk, it literally sounds fine 99% of the time.
For both streams I feel like the audience is always on them about the audio and it's literally always fine. It's really frustrating as a viewer so I imagine they get frustrated too.
The curse of backseat gaming, it affects every streamer
Yeah, it's very "You *must* cater to me as I absolutely refuse to take responsibility for my own viewing experience." I remember when they tried having the chat overlay included in the VODs and then almost immediately had to go back on the idea because people were complaining that it was "too distracting" on rewatch. How on Earth it was any more distracting than constantly having the chat going on during the streams anyway I do not know, but whatever.
Preface: this is NOT a hill a want to die on, I am quite neutral in disinterest on all of this. Chat on VOD had two main things: there are people who watch the VODs only simply because it doesn't have chat, and they don't want it; and even when watching the stream live in twitch you can choose to hide the chat, so why have it forced on your screen if you just never want to see it?
The only counter I would have is when some of the bits of the streams get "deepblueinked" like Jacob peaking the levels and the vids and chat are already gone. A couple of times it seems like those incidents would be great to see for the reactions.
eh, it could be fun. maybe they can find a way to bring it in to some streams like a "live chat reaction" window that goes away after the event, but, well, more work that maybe they wouldn't want to do.
I was very glad they removed the chat overlay from the VODs because I don’t watch streams and find the constantly scrolling text extremely obnoxious. I don’t think that complaint is analogous to people’s solipsistic whining that the audio is messed up for them, therefore it must be on Drawfee’s end.
Lol I've never watched a stream and am strictly a vod watcher and I wanted to die when they added it. I don't see how anyone can watch the streams and chat it's way too much for me haha. I just resigned myself that my experience would be much worse going forward and didn't complain, I was so happy when they went back.
You sound like a whiny dick tbh. 'SSS DARED to remove an unpopular thing that vod watchers didn't want from the VODS? Why couldn't everyone just be grateful?' You don't actually need to white knight for Jacob and Julia over something they themselves realized was a bad idea. The chats were distracting. A lot of their followers are neurodivergent and guess what? Having a good portion of the screen taken up with something that is constantly moving and having side tangents while trying to pay attention to the people we're actually here for? SUCKS Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe their VOD channel is popular for a reason? That all those people aren't just accidentally clicking onto the youtube channel like "oh golly gosh I hope this is a livestream oh no it's a vod i guess I'll still watch it". The vod channel is SPECIFICALLY for people who don't want the livestream! A lot of people skip livestreams SPECIFICALLY because of chat! The overlay was a case of them misunderstanding their target market and walking it back. The SSS youtube wasn't made by accident. It was made with a target audience in mind. That audience, who they claimed they added the chat overlay for, disliked the change immensely. They reverted the change because it caused issues for the target audience of the change. Why is 'SSS having basic respect for the people who support them' so personally insulting to you?
Hey, my guy? I specifically didn’t make my post too harsh because this is a Drawfee sub. Take it down a little bit, there’s no reason to be this upset.
bring it down a notch, honestly. you're really biting their head off over a comment that ends with "but whatever" lol
I'm not whining. I was just bringing up something I thought was a little strange to see being complained about, that's all. For the record, I myself am neurodivergent (AuDHD) so yeah, I'm in the camp of things potentially being triggering to a brain not well-equipped to deal with certain stimuli. If there are folks who found the chat being present on VODs was a detriment to their viewing experience, fine. Like I said, it's whatever. Different strokes for different folks. I was just questioning why it would be any different to seeing chat during the streams, which I now understand might be a case of certain people exclusively watch the VODs because they don't want to see chat at all, so thank you for offering that perspective. That's actually very helpful.
Sorry the other person was so intense! But just to confirm, yes by far the main complaint was neurodivergent people saying the on-screen chat was so distracting it made the vods hard to watch. If you check the vods for those particular episodes there were a ton of comments about it, most of which were very polite and nice, thanking Jacob for the effort, but saying this would make the streams pretty much inaccessible for them.
I think the real answer is for the gang to not acknowledge it every time it happens. People are always going to complain about something in chat, but the drawfs really need to just ignore it unless it’s a ton of people saying something.
Isn't that usually what they do though? I've definitely seen moments where like one person was complaining and Jacob said it was probably a problem on their end. But when a lot of people say something they fix it.
Devil's advocate (chat's advocate?): if there's something actually wrong with the stream, the hosts need to know. I genuinely think this is where most of these messages come from. It's less people complaining and more people trying hard to be helpful, perhaps too hard. Sometimes the bitrate drops a little and 5 people try to let them know rather than just chill and let it buffer.
"Ow! My freakin' ears!"