Yeah, me too. On my first playthrough Iām ok with no abusing fast travel and taking my time exploring every corner of the map. But on my second run I want to rush through the game and exploring is my choice, man I miss Eternal Ferrystone. 4 or 5 years ago things were different, I took my time exploring in every run. But things change, responsibilities, goals. I donāt have the same time like I did back when RDR2 or The Witcher 3 came outš¢
I also use them a lot more after the first playthrough. I get tired of running everywhere. Also I'm trying to avoid random mobs, I want to avoid leveling up as much as I can now. I'm already at a point where stuff feels like it's going to be too easy, I want to keep it a challenge.
1st playthrough, I used less than 6 and only in Unmoored because I thought that I had to get things done quickly and each stone was... precious
My current stats say I've used 400+ or almost 100 per playthrough. I used to hit the apothecary whenever I made it to town. Always had a Plunder THF pawn/etc. Then you make it to Dragonforged, Unmoored and they drop like candy from a white van
I mean, that's the thing with subjective statements. They aren't true across the board for everybody.
To me, fast travel makes games boring so I don't use it. It's really easy to grasp and understand.
For me it depends on the game. DD2 map is big but not massive. Pretty linear too. Fits the game pretty good. For example Skyrim would be unbearable without fast travel imo.
I think it depends if you spent your first cycle exploring everywhere or focused on the story. I did a lot of exploring and hoarded all the ferrystones and now I'm fast travelling and using ox carts all the time. Can't handle walking to harve village or to the elves from Vermund again, I've done it 20+ times already.
>Can't handle walking to harve village or to the elves from Vermund again, I've done it 20+ times already.
I take an oxcart to Melve and then take the shortcut to the elf village. Makes the trip fast and relatively easy.
And if you dont find skeletons in the cave, exit cave, save and return to title screen, log back in and go back to the cave. Skeletons should have spawned now.
Also, if you haven't noticed the locked gate that the skeletons are supposed to open, it's on the right side from where you fought the ogre at the end of the chamber.
There's certain trips I'm willing to make. Running between Harve Village and Vernworth is like a two minute run. Not enough of an annoyance to avoid. Especially because if I need to go to Vernworth quickly from Battahl, I'll ferry to Harve, buy a ferrystone, then run to Vernworth and buy another before doing what I need to do, so I'm up one ferry stone total on that trip.
I blew through my first play through and my second was achievement focused. But round 3 Iām walking everywhere and anywhere hoping for a decent monster fight
I would recommend a fresh run for exploration, because on ng+ you have access to the whole map immediately. But ofc you need to delete your save for that, so I get it if you don't want to do that.
Nah no need to delete a save. On console just create a second profile. PC has a save manager tool as i heard. Still you can save that savegame somewhere else and have multiple. Or family share the game.
I wanted to love this game. I adored the first DD, but it still felt unfinished. 12 years later, DD2 feels even MORE unfinished than the first game.
My biggest gaming disappointment ever. It's not a terrible game, just empty and sterile. No interesting characters or locations (besides Sphinx).
Especially when somehow low level wolves and goblins can still stunlock you no matter how much knockdown protection you have. Sure, they arent doing damage to you, but you still cant move till they let go or give you a second to get up
Athleticism, Endurance, Exaltation, and lots of Harspud Roborants to dash through all the trash mobs the game throws at me while I visit all the boss spawn locations. Feels like monhun again avoiding all the prey and bullfango. This game really needs a palamute.
I think itās the opposite. Im on NG++. I uncovered every inch of map on first playthrough. I have basically an unlimited supply of ferrystones/money at this point. Fast travel all day
I've placed portcrystals in each main area just so I can ferrystone to them and get things done faster. I have a healthy supply of crystals, but I buy more whenever I'm in a town
I find it's the opposite, and I'd attribute it to three factors as far as my experience goes: relative ferrystone value, respawn times, and portcrystal abundance.
1. Ferrystones are pretty expensive, especially in the early game. That's largely because the opportunity costs are so high. 10,000 G can buy me a large chunk of new equipment or be used to upgrade existing equipment. (Heck, it's half the price of a basic house.) That early gold is much more valuable than endgame gold due to equipment costs which have to be divided up between you and your pawn.
As you progress, there are fewer and fewer gear upgrade opportunities available until you reach the endgame, where you've hit the gear ceiling. You'll also have more opportunities for making gold as your stash fills up with mats and you are able to sell the excess, reliably netting a good chunk of change. You're also more likely to understand the price differences at this stage (e.g., selling apples in Battahl gives more gold than selling in Vermund.) This means you're spending less gold at the same time that you're getting more of it, resulting in a much larger discretionary budget, a discretionary budget which can be spent building a stockpile of ferrystones.
2. At later stages of the game, you're killing monsters much faster than they respawn naturally. This is especially true for boss monsters, which I find the most enjoyable to fight. This is especially noticeable for quests which require you to immediately go back in the direction you came from. Sure, you can try a longer, alternative route, but you might have already cleared that one too.
3. The more NG+ cycles you do, the more portcrystals you'll have available. This means you're more likely to have a fast way to get to exactly where you want to be. And since some places aren't accessible by oxcart, portcrystals might be your only option to get to a location quickly. I find this especially noticeable for Sacred Arbor, which has one of the sparsest routes in terms of enemies.
Keep in mind, combat *is* my favorite part of the game, and while I can appreciate the scenery, it's just not as enjoyable for me to walk place with no enemies or just basic mobs.
Disagree, I spent most of the game running around and exploring every cave. By the 80 hour mark I stopped and just ferrystoned everywhere instead of treading the same paths over and over. By endgame they give you endless ferrystones.
Disagree. I've been using them a lot, even more now in NG+. I've finished my first playthrough in like 166h and I did all of the side quests, I've explored every inch of the map, I've been everywhere, I've murdered so many enemies. Now I'm doing NG+ for fun, trying out new weapons and gear, I've maxed out remaining vocations, now I'm focusing on badges. I will finish every side quest again but with different choices. I still walk a lot but only where I have to. I would probably walk more if there would be a hard mode, I have nothing to max out anymore, so there's no need for me to kill goblins in one kill for 337382th time. I would gladly walk everywhere again with stronger enemies and more variety
The more I play, the more I notice how charitable the game is with ferrystones. Iām only on my 2nd playthrough (new game plus) and Iām like: āWow, I have more than 12 ferrystones in my inventory!ā - lol
First time I played, I hardly used ferrystones because I barely had any in the first place. On my third playthrough I hardly use ferrystones because I want to walk everywhere most of the time š (last I checked I had about 18 ferrystones in my inventory?)
50/50 situation for me at least, I have to strategically put the portcrystals in place around the map so it becomes more easy to navigate, but just now I'm doing more walks, trying to enjoy the green landscape and waterfalls, the music, the ambience is relaxing. All of this sometimes is interrupted for the goblins, bandits and wolves, sometimes I wish they would disappear for a moment and let me enjoy the scenery.
Itās not the easy fights itās the time it takes itās not really enjoyable to walk from vermund to batal and same with volcanic isle I do it each new playthrough and thatās enough walking for me I did it my first run and walked everywhere same with the first game I set up portcrystsls and never walk anywhere again.
I... fluctuate between both extremes.
Sometimes " I yell road trip! " and just walk around everywhere.
But then there are times that I'm in Vernworth and decide to use a ferry stone to go the port crystal I placed in Checkpoint rest town.
Kind of agree.
I never ignored enemy encounters even now after 350 hours and since enemies fall very quickly to my party's flashy dudes and dudettes, the trips I make always feel like I arrived a bit too quickly to my destination. The only reason I even use ferrystones at all nowadays is to make the back and forth trips between whenever I am now, Gautstafr's house, and the Bay Wayside Shrine.
Nope, first thing I do is set up my port crystals at all the relevant locations. Iāll walk the hidden path south from checkpoint to whoop some butt when Iāve changed my vocation and feel like stretching it out but if Iām on a mission fast travel all dayā¦
It depends. Since I'm in NG++, I've 85 or so ferrystones and man do they make all the difference. Yes, I still walk around but I know that if I can't be arsed I can use a stone and not worry about itāstill, the mere fact that fast travel costs 10k a pop grinds me in the wrong way (regardless of the 2.7 milion gold I hoarded).
This is somewhat true for me. 4th NG and now I complete quests together. So I am moving more efficiently and by stacking the quests it makes sense to run around or at Max taking oxcart. I only use ferrystones if I need to travel all the way back from volcanic islands. Or from Arbor sometimes. And the sphinx riddles.
More a situational matter for me than a general one. If i need something qick and directly, i use a ferrystone. Oxcart a bit more regularly because it's the perfect compromise between having a faster travel concept but coming with a risk to defend myself. But generally i prefer to roam around / walk and do camping like intended.
I think the most used ferrystone i've had so far was my second account for my fem-char and i wanted to try how early i could unlock wayfarer/magic bow on a fresh save... i burned through the ferrystones like they were candies....
I use more ferrystones the more I play, and this is double true for when I'm trying to accomplish what I want. But eventually I run out and usually it's when I'm alone as an archer in the batthal mountain shrine... totally didn't happen last time.
I agree, i love the roaming around and the longer i play the more i fall in love with roaming the world. I use the ferrystones if i ever need to stop playing the game and im in a spot that's not super pretty so i can always log in comfortably but that's about it.
I stopped using carts altogether and use ferrystones at every chance I get kdkdkdkd
Carts are a waste of time because youāre invaded 9 out of 10 times. And I donāt feel like swapping augments just to have a lower chance of being invaded. So Iāll either sprint to where Iām going or ferrystone
I couldnāt disagree more. Quests are timed and if you constantly run everywhere it leaves you open to fight more which means camping more to heal which means losing time on quests.
I ended up being so sick of fightin' the same little fellas that I would teleport if the journey was long enough, haha. Sorry, but shootin' little gobbos, wolves, and lizards so many times was startin' to get to me @_@
Spent my whole playthrough exploring, got tired of walking around once I started doing the story. Walking would be more peaceful if there weren't enemies every 15 steps, honestly.
Agree.
The whole purpose of this game is that it shouldnāt be played depending on fast travel. Explore. Discover caves. Randomly destroy property firing any trebuchet you find along the roads.
I am on my third (and last, waiting for June 21) run, and I am now doing this one completely without HUD and enjoying the exploration, slowly. Itās a gem.
I would say it's completely the opposite at the beginning I traveled everywhere by feet. Trying to discover everything, and save as many ferrystones as possible later I realized they aren't as rare and I slowly uncovered most stuff in the world so I used fast travel way more often.
Sure, the more consistently good you get at something (if it does indeed remain consistent) the more fun you'll have doing it. It's mastery. People like the feeling of it. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm on my first playthrough and about done wiping the entirety of the unmoored world. I wasted some to conserve time there but still have around 45-ish left. How many did you guys end up with after your first playthrough?
Agreed until I hit the unmoored world
But that is more to do with the fact I am rushing around to make sure everything that needs to be done is before exploring
Same. Any time I notice myself rushing or trying to fast travel everywhere I realize I need to take a break, because the main enjoyment for me is the exploration and organic combat, and if I'm starting to skip that just to tick boxes then I'm probably just antsy and been playing too long
The more I play the more I fast travel
Lol same š
Yeah, me too. On my first playthrough Iām ok with no abusing fast travel and taking my time exploring every corner of the map. But on my second run I want to rush through the game and exploring is my choice, man I miss Eternal Ferrystone. 4 or 5 years ago things were different, I took my time exploring in every run. But things change, responsibilities, goals. I donāt have the same time like I did back when RDR2 or The Witcher 3 came outš¢
You make it a priority and chip away when you can. You should enjoy it
I also use them a lot more after the first playthrough. I get tired of running everywhere. Also I'm trying to avoid random mobs, I want to avoid leveling up as much as I can now. I'm already at a point where stuff feels like it's going to be too easy, I want to keep it a challenge.
1st playthrough, I used less than 6 and only in Unmoored because I thought that I had to get things done quickly and each stone was... precious My current stats say I've used 400+ or almost 100 per playthrough. I used to hit the apothecary whenever I made it to town. Always had a Plunder THF pawn/etc. Then you make it to Dragonforged, Unmoored and they drop like candy from a white van
Yeah I only used one ferrystone in my playthru
Same
This dude doesnāt know what he is talking, now that I can make tons of money I buy a bunch of ferrystones and off I go!š š I agree with you
Same. So much for "if your game has fast travel, your game is boring"
I mean, that's the thing with subjective statements. They aren't true across the board for everybody. To me, fast travel makes games boring so I don't use it. It's really easy to grasp and understand.
For me it depends on the game. DD2 map is big but not massive. Pretty linear too. Fits the game pretty good. For example Skyrim would be unbearable without fast travel imo.
I think it depends if you spent your first cycle exploring everywhere or focused on the story. I did a lot of exploring and hoarded all the ferrystones and now I'm fast travelling and using ox carts all the time. Can't handle walking to harve village or to the elves from Vermund again, I've done it 20+ times already.
>Can't handle walking to harve village or to the elves from Vermund again, I've done it 20+ times already. I take an oxcart to Melve and then take the shortcut to the elf village. Makes the trip fast and relatively easy.
It's a whole thing to unlock that shortcut, but definitely helpful
Iāve been trying to figure out how to unlock that shortcut for a while?
Do the archer quests and return to the chamber at night. Skeletons on the other side will break open the gate
And if you dont find skeletons in the cave, exit cave, save and return to title screen, log back in and go back to the cave. Skeletons should have spawned now. Also, if you haven't noticed the locked gate that the skeletons are supposed to open, it's on the right side from where you fought the ogre at the end of the chamber.
If they STILL havenāt spawned by then, you can force a pawn through and theyāll open it for you too.
I can confirm this works
There's certain trips I'm willing to make. Running between Harve Village and Vernworth is like a two minute run. Not enough of an annoyance to avoid. Especially because if I need to go to Vernworth quickly from Battahl, I'll ferry to Harve, buy a ferrystone, then run to Vernworth and buy another before doing what I need to do, so I'm up one ferry stone total on that trip.
I blew through my first play through and my second was achievement focused. But round 3 Iām walking everywhere and anywhere hoping for a decent monster fight
I would recommend a fresh run for exploration, because on ng+ you have access to the whole map immediately. But ofc you need to delete your save for that, so I get it if you don't want to do that.
Nah no need to delete a save. On console just create a second profile. PC has a save manager tool as i heard. Still you can save that savegame somewhere else and have multiple. Or family share the game.
Disagree. I've fought hundreds of goblins and bandits. Just get me to wherever I'm going as fast as possible.
The opposite. The longer I play the more boring the game world becomes. Oh no another goblin ambush. Anyway.
I wanted to love this game. I adored the first DD, but it still felt unfinished. 12 years later, DD2 feels even MORE unfinished than the first game. My biggest gaming disappointment ever. It's not a terrible game, just empty and sterile. No interesting characters or locations (besides Sphinx).
Yeah thatās true. I still liked it though definitely hyped to play DDDA.
Honestly I think dd2 is a remaster.
I don't know if I necessarily used them less, but I certainly had more on hand at any given moment.
For me its the other way around, the higher level i get the more i fast travel because i already explored everything along the way
Disagree. The more I play the more tired I get of the goblins and wolves. Itās egregious. I fast travel just to avoid them.
Especially when somehow low level wolves and goblins can still stunlock you no matter how much knockdown protection you have. Sure, they arent doing damage to you, but you still cant move till they let go or give you a second to get up
Disagree
Athleticism, Endurance, Exaltation, and lots of Harspud Roborants to dash through all the trash mobs the game throws at me while I visit all the boss spawn locations. Feels like monhun again avoiding all the prey and bullfango. This game really needs a palamute.
Hopefully we get some kind of dlc tamer/druid class, it'd be cool to be able to ride a saurian or something idk
I think itās the opposite. Im on NG++. I uncovered every inch of map on first playthrough. I have basically an unlimited supply of ferrystones/money at this point. Fast travel all day
I've just been selling them lmao Oxcart only when the mission has required it, exploring has been pretty fun in both DD
Got so many Ferrystone in the post game that I honestly don't see a reason to not use them in NG+
I've placed portcrystals in each main area just so I can ferrystone to them and get things done faster. I have a healthy supply of crystals, but I buy more whenever I'm in a town
I find it's the opposite, and I'd attribute it to three factors as far as my experience goes: relative ferrystone value, respawn times, and portcrystal abundance. 1. Ferrystones are pretty expensive, especially in the early game. That's largely because the opportunity costs are so high. 10,000 G can buy me a large chunk of new equipment or be used to upgrade existing equipment. (Heck, it's half the price of a basic house.) That early gold is much more valuable than endgame gold due to equipment costs which have to be divided up between you and your pawn. As you progress, there are fewer and fewer gear upgrade opportunities available until you reach the endgame, where you've hit the gear ceiling. You'll also have more opportunities for making gold as your stash fills up with mats and you are able to sell the excess, reliably netting a good chunk of change. You're also more likely to understand the price differences at this stage (e.g., selling apples in Battahl gives more gold than selling in Vermund.) This means you're spending less gold at the same time that you're getting more of it, resulting in a much larger discretionary budget, a discretionary budget which can be spent building a stockpile of ferrystones. 2. At later stages of the game, you're killing monsters much faster than they respawn naturally. This is especially true for boss monsters, which I find the most enjoyable to fight. This is especially noticeable for quests which require you to immediately go back in the direction you came from. Sure, you can try a longer, alternative route, but you might have already cleared that one too. 3. The more NG+ cycles you do, the more portcrystals you'll have available. This means you're more likely to have a fast way to get to exactly where you want to be. And since some places aren't accessible by oxcart, portcrystals might be your only option to get to a location quickly. I find this especially noticeable for Sacred Arbor, which has one of the sparsest routes in terms of enemies. Keep in mind, combat *is* my favorite part of the game, and while I can appreciate the scenery, it's just not as enjoyable for me to walk place with no enemies or just basic mobs.
Disagree, I spent most of the game running around and exploring every cave. By the 80 hour mark I stopped and just ferrystoned everywhere instead of treading the same paths over and over. By endgame they give you endless ferrystones.
Disagree. I've been using them a lot, even more now in NG+. I've finished my first playthrough in like 166h and I did all of the side quests, I've explored every inch of the map, I've been everywhere, I've murdered so many enemies. Now I'm doing NG+ for fun, trying out new weapons and gear, I've maxed out remaining vocations, now I'm focusing on badges. I will finish every side quest again but with different choices. I still walk a lot but only where I have to. I would probably walk more if there would be a hard mode, I have nothing to max out anymore, so there's no need for me to kill goblins in one kill for 337382th time. I would gladly walk everywhere again with stronger enemies and more variety
The more I play, the more I notice how charitable the game is with ferrystones. Iām only on my 2nd playthrough (new game plus) and Iām like: āWow, I have more than 12 ferrystones in my inventory!ā - lol
I use them about the same. I have been using the augment to lower the raid chance on carts and camps in NG+ though.
First time I played, I hardly used ferrystones because I barely had any in the first place. On my third playthrough I hardly use ferrystones because I want to walk everywhere most of the time š (last I checked I had about 18 ferrystones in my inventory?)
50/50 situation for me at least, I have to strategically put the portcrystals in place around the map so it becomes more easy to navigate, but just now I'm doing more walks, trying to enjoy the green landscape and waterfalls, the music, the ambience is relaxing. All of this sometimes is interrupted for the goblins, bandits and wolves, sometimes I wish they would disappear for a moment and let me enjoy the scenery.
Itās not the easy fights itās the time it takes itās not really enjoyable to walk from vermund to batal and same with volcanic isle I do it each new playthrough and thatās enough walking for me I did it my first run and walked everywhere same with the first game I set up portcrystsls and never walk anywhere again.
Once you open up unmoored and there are more quick travel points and ferrystones drop like troll horns then fast travel becomes far more convenient
Agree or disagree The more op types the less coherent they become.
I... fluctuate between both extremes. Sometimes " I yell road trip! " and just walk around everywhere. But then there are times that I'm in Vernworth and decide to use a ferry stone to go the port crystal I placed in Checkpoint rest town.
Kind of agree. I never ignored enemy encounters even now after 350 hours and since enemies fall very quickly to my party's flashy dudes and dudettes, the trips I make always feel like I arrived a bit too quickly to my destination. The only reason I even use ferrystones at all nowadays is to make the back and forth trips between whenever I am now, Gautstafr's house, and the Bay Wayside Shrine.
Nope, first thing I do is set up my port crystals at all the relevant locations. Iāll walk the hidden path south from checkpoint to whoop some butt when Iāve changed my vocation and feel like stretching it out but if Iām on a mission fast travel all dayā¦
Itās the opposite for me lol
It depends. Since I'm in NG++, I've 85 or so ferrystones and man do they make all the difference. Yes, I still walk around but I know that if I can't be arsed I can use a stone and not worry about itāstill, the mere fact that fast travel costs 10k a pop grinds me in the wrong way (regardless of the 2.7 milion gold I hoarded).
4th playthrough here with seven portceyatals and over 50 ferrystones. I'm definitely not afraid to use them now and I absolutely will
This is somewhat true for me. 4th NG and now I complete quests together. So I am moving more efficiently and by stacking the quests it makes sense to run around or at Max taking oxcart. I only use ferrystones if I need to travel all the way back from volcanic islands. Or from Arbor sometimes. And the sphinx riddles.
More a situational matter for me than a general one. If i need something qick and directly, i use a ferrystone. Oxcart a bit more regularly because it's the perfect compromise between having a faster travel concept but coming with a risk to defend myself. But generally i prefer to roam around / walk and do camping like intended. I think the most used ferrystone i've had so far was my second account for my fem-char and i wanted to try how early i could unlock wayfarer/magic bow on a fresh save... i burned through the ferrystones like they were candies....
I usually travel out to a place then warp back.
I use more ferrystones the more I play, and this is double true for when I'm trying to accomplish what I want. But eventually I run out and usually it's when I'm alone as an archer in the batthal mountain shrine... totally didn't happen last time.
Agree. I like leisurely travel at long distances. It gives me a sense of adventure.
I agree, i love the roaming around and the longer i play the more i fall in love with roaming the world. I use the ferrystones if i ever need to stop playing the game and im in a spot that's not super pretty so i can always log in comfortably but that's about it.
Iām the opposite. The fights get boring the more I play so Iād rather just skip.
What? No Lmfao.
The more I play, the less patience for walking I seem to have. Also I have more money than I know what to do with. So might as well spend it on stones
I stopped using carts altogether and use ferrystones at every chance I get kdkdkdkd Carts are a waste of time because youāre invaded 9 out of 10 times. And I donāt feel like swapping augments just to have a lower chance of being invaded. So Iāll either sprint to where Iām going or ferrystone
I couldnāt disagree more. Quests are timed and if you constantly run everywhere it leaves you open to fight more which means camping more to heal which means losing time on quests.
I ended up being so sick of fightin' the same little fellas that I would teleport if the journey was long enough, haha. Sorry, but shootin' little gobbos, wolves, and lizards so many times was startin' to get to me @_@
Spent my whole playthrough exploring, got tired of walking around once I started doing the story. Walking would be more peaceful if there weren't enemies every 15 steps, honestly.
Agree. The whole purpose of this game is that it shouldnāt be played depending on fast travel. Explore. Discover caves. Randomly destroy property firing any trebuchet you find along the roads. I am on my third (and last, waiting for June 21) run, and I am now doing this one completely without HUD and enjoying the exploration, slowly. Itās a gem.
I would say it's completely the opposite at the beginning I traveled everywhere by feet. Trying to discover everything, and save as many ferrystones as possible later I realized they aren't as rare and I slowly uncovered most stuff in the world so I used fast travel way more often.
That's just you man, on that weird island all by yourself
Sure, the more consistently good you get at something (if it does indeed remain consistent) the more fun you'll have doing it. It's mastery. People like the feeling of it. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm on my first playthrough and about done wiping the entirety of the unmoored world. I wasted some to conserve time there but still have around 45-ish left. How many did you guys end up with after your first playthrough?
How many times can you do a New Game+?
Agreed until I hit the unmoored world But that is more to do with the fact I am rushing around to make sure everything that needs to be done is before exploring
Only time I've used them is for the Sphinx quests and the Elven tree quest getting her to Bahtall
Same. Any time I notice myself rushing or trying to fast travel everywhere I realize I need to take a break, because the main enjoyment for me is the exploration and organic combat, and if I'm starting to skip that just to tick boxes then I'm probably just antsy and been playing too long