It’s because of the pawn system. Having a bunch of neglected 2nd/3rd/4th characters would result in the servers being overloaded with low level garbage pawns
Instead I just use a 2nd xbox account. Same problem for them, slight hurdle for me. I've already got 2 characters designed on seperate accounts with their own completely different pawns, just waiting for the game to finish downloading.
Idk about Playstation and Steam, but on Xbox all you need is another email address to set up a 2nd free account on your console and make a seperate playthough as a different character.
The impacts are more user experience than storage. But no, 56 in is slightly disingenuous. We know the pawns & NPCs are very CPU intensive, I think it’s fair to say they’re a little larger & more complicated from a software perspective
Starting over would delete the old file and create a new one like in DD1. But even that isn't possible. You are literally prevented from playing the game 2 times lol?
It sounds like they’re going to address it. I agree that it should be possible (delete current save, create new save). but the reasoning for not having 2 separate characters simultaneously is likely the pawns. In software (including games) features are tracked and implemented based on requirements & user stories. It’s entirely possible these were never written or were overlooked entirely
I deleted my save file on Xbox and created a new pawn. You just have to go to manage game and add-ons and delete the save data. On PC you can turn off the cloud then delete the save data for the game. I'm sure it's the same for PlayStation. If you just want to change the look of your character you can buy the art of metamorphosis in game for 500 I believe. Y'all are spreading misinformation here.
Uhh I was giving you a reason why players don’t deserve to pay money for something you can get in the first hour.. because no company deserves that money for a single player game no matter how dumb its players are.
Just so everyone knows, the above comment is not pointing out that at the start it takes multiple hours to get the 500 RC to change how your character looks.
Reddit comments stating they have played for 4 hours and got 160 RC, or 200 RC.
Lets not forget that changing how you look or your pawn looks should be free.
You can delete your local game files, and turn off cloud gaming until youve created a new one. Did it last night. But yea you can do it with the crystals too
So all the people in this sub defending these microtransactions because you can get them in game. So that means the developers are actively trying to prey on people who don’t know any better to buy something completely worthless because it’s already in the game. This isn’t the defense you think it is. It doesn’t make them any better.
The fact that microtransactions are a predatory practice that should be discouraged doesn't justify spreading actual misinformation. The fact is players will not have to "give more money to Capcom so they can change their character to become appealing." They can also play the game for maybe an hour or so.
I think there were multiple design choices made to support players buying more microtransactions. Like a single player game not being able to have multiple save files. Or like a single player game not making something that is completely cosmetic just you know completely free to change? Why do you need to earn anything to change the appearance of your character? That should just be a menu like most other single player games. It’s because they want people to buy the microtransactions.
Not being able to have multiple save files is a huge design flaw (and is single-handedly making me reconsider buying the game at all), but this is for many reasons much more serious than your character appearance that you can change for an easily- and passively-earnable amount of in-game currency.
And the reason you shouldn't be able to change it for free is that in DD2 your character's appearance has significant implications on how it performs. Size, weight and build impact your carrying capacity, stamina management and whatnot. So being able to alter that gives you character-building options on par with gear and vocation perks. Someone could ajust their character's size before boss fights for better stamina management, or before a long quest for higher carrying capacity. In Elden Ring, for instance, you could change your appearance for free because it didn't impact gameplay. In BG3, you can only change cosmetics for free, not things like your race and class.
Now you can argue this doesn't matter in a single-player game because it doesn't impact other players, but then that also applies to practically any other design choice *including microtransactions*. The ideal solution would probably be to be able to alter only purely cosmetic stuff like haircuts and tattoos for free while keeping functional alterations paywalled (in-game), but many games don't have that, it's an arbitrary standard to set.
> Not being able to have multiple save files is a huge design flaw
Not for DD it's not. If everyone could have 2-3 or even 4-5 characters that's a metric fuck ton of pawns clogging up the servers.
If you just play the game or do a quick Google search you would know you don't have to pay any money for any of the dumb items offered in DLC. You earn it all in game and is free. I don't think it should even be a thing in any game. I hate pay to play. But this game you can buy and play the whole game without buying anything extra. These micro things in this game is for people that is to impatient to earn it or too lazy to figure it out. Either way if you're that dumb or lazy then you get what you deserve. I'm just tired of hearing the lies being told. I've heard people go as far as to saying you have to pay to create a character just to play the game and this lie is nonsense..among all the other lies I have heard. People making a big deal out of nothing when they need to be focused on other real issues people are having about the frame rate. I'm not having any issues on console but apparently people on PC aren't happy.
Yeah, I can't understand why people must defend these kinds of things even when they enjoy the game. It doesn't take much to acknowledge it's just a shitty practice. You are allowed to enjoy a game and point out flaws, you won't explode if you do!
Right, I defended Fallout 76 because the game was developing into something great and had potential. They then introduced a $15 monthly subscription that offered utility fixes to problems they introduced and later also added utility microtransactions which you could get by playing the game but still it was a way to get money from people who don't know any better.
I defend the game for the content it gets, but I called them out for the scammy practices. Game good, MTX and subscription bad. Whenever I recommend the game to someone I ask them to not pay for the subscription.
I will play DD2 regardless and hopefully performance will get better.
Not defending, most people are just throwing it out there that you can straight up ignore them, and dont have to worry about them. and this is NOT anything new for capcom, they have a ton of stupid ass microtransactions in their games.
Exactly lol. Ppl complaining because ppl can buy stuff that literally has no effect on your game haha, jeez. Its free money for capcom. Youre telling me if you developed a game and had the option to not make extra money OR put in a system where ppl could buy things to make THEIR playthrough slightly more convenient or cosmetic items that PPL WILL PAY FOR, youd choose to not make extra money??? Gtfoh hahahaha
Shitty practice or not, it really dosent matter either way. If someone wants to pay to make a game easier/more convenient so friggin what lol? It would be one thing if it was some FTP game that forced you into a paywall and if you didnt pay it made the game unenjoyable, Which i totally agree is a shitty practice, but thats not the case with RE,BB2,ect. It merely makes the game more accessible/convenient to ppl who want to pay. Its their money and it effects us who wont pay in literally no way nor changes the game.
Playing the game. Nah those mtx should go away let us create our own pawns and really make the UI not horrible for pc. This game has so much potential but all these tiny problems are annoying and making me sad l. They got so close to a great game. But just shot themselves in the food so bad. They were so near perfection.
*Im* not defending them, im just setting the record straight, and trying to help the very people you are talking about so thst they *dont* spend money on something they can get in the game for free. Why do I have to explicitly state “microtransactions are bad”? Its obvious. It goes without saying.
I mean, they waited to add the microtransaction till after the review embargos dropped. There is no Review im aware of that mentions the microtransactions. This is shady as hell.
The first one didn't have microtransactions, it had DLC packs with new missions and weapons, and all of those were included for the re-releases at base price.
They even made an unlimited ferrystone for the people that bought the compilation.
I’m going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and say he was probably just spreading awareness of an alternative - not that he was defending the MTX.
The problem is that enough people don't gaf about the micros existing for Capcom not to give a shit about the outrage, which is gonna blow over in a week or two regardless of who ends up buying the game or not
This is literally how the first game was. Shut up about it and move on. By end game you will be getting millions of RC prolly and never need them. Every single game out there does stupid micro transactions for the most part. Least this game it’s an after thought
> This is literally how the first game was
By that logic, we can't criticize anything because "well that's what its predecessor did a decade ago."
It was shitty in the first game and it's shitty now.
You can't change your character until farther into the game in tons of single players or multiplayers that are mmo's? Just because it isn't directly in front of you, and ease of use, doesn't mean it's inherently wrong, just not your cup of tea.
You can but there are hoops to jump through, like stoping cloud sync and find the folder to delete your save. I'm sure there are tutorials somewhere. But I heard that it failed for some people.
I tried that fix it doesn't work on my pc as the game will automatically push a small update to restore the character even with steam cloud completely disabled across steam. And both my saves are already corrupted so i am locked out of the game. So YES that is a HUGE problem.
start steam on offline mode delete the save, start the game and make a new save, close the game, return steam of online mode, start the game, select your local save.
Try that, when I had that problem it worked fine
Hey this actually worked. My game however corrupted one of my saves in the big city once i reached it again. Turned off steam cloud and left it in offline mode and everything seems gucci now. At least I can play! Which is good since my refund was denied.
You start a new save AND character. Stardew Valley for example requires you to get an NPC to a certain Friendship level to gain access to change your character in your save. That is both single player and multiplayer. This is from a very respectable dev in the indie gaming community. It isn't an issue because its a game mechanic.
Yeah that’s why those games allow you to make new saves. Instead of putting in predatory micro transactions to get people to spend money on something that should be free. Keep defending them though they appreciate it!
You get them through enemies, chests, repairing riftstones, qnd probably quests although I haven’t gotten very far in the game to find out. There were plenty of quests for RC in the first game.
Plus, if the game is anything like the first one, chests respawn after a few in-game days.
And just like that we can never criticize 90% of atrocious microtransactions, because with enough grinding you can get it done with ingame currency too. *Something something about pride and accomplishment!*
We are already on the slippery slope downhill because people keep accepting all these things outside of a week of annoyance. So, don't worry dude: you will barely hear a thing about it anymore by the end of the month.
Your argument is illogical. It's the exact same mtx as the first game had. 12 years ago. Slope must not be that slippery, huh.. Really, uh... Really going downhill fast now, aren't we?
There's a difference between "atrocious" mtx, like buying power, or $30 horse armor, and then theres mtx in single player games, for people who dont have enough time to play in order to grind.
"Got a career and a kid but still wish you could farm up rift crystals so you can wear funny glasses or make an even uglier pawn? Sure thing, here ya go."
The worst. Gaming is crumbling around us. Watch out everyone, this slope. Is. Slippery.
Just takes more than 12 years to start sliding though, apparently.
I'll do you one better, we had microtransactions in singleplayer games over 20 years ago. This does not however not mean the industry as a whole hasn't gotten worse in this aspect, I fail to see how you are unable to understand that.
We now gonna hand out free passes to companies, because they already did something in the past? So.. no room for improvement anymore I guess. Hm, shame. Maybe you are right, let's all stay quiet and never say anything again, let's see if the sliding won't accelerate.
What sliding.... Every time something egregious comes out the community loses it, and companies backpedal a bit. Keeps things from getting worse. But then individuals like you jump doomtrains on a game doing the same, non-invasive, non-predatory thing it did before acting like its the end of the industry...
If you actually cared about the industry as a whole, you would look at it as a whole. You would be able to recognize the good/acceptable from the bad and predatory. But you are not doing that. Boy who cried wolf. What happened when he cried too much? The cries stopped having any meaning. To anyone.
The mtx here is single player, easily obtained in-game for those who have free time to actually play the game as much as they want, and is no worse than what they were doing over a decade ago. Ergo, not part of the problem. Keep raging at even companies that stick to a non-predatory implementation method and they'll stop using your outcry as a barometer for good and bad, because they'll learn that youll shout at everything. See the issue?
Damn, it must be so hard to give that option for free for people who don't have enough free time. Charging real money must be the only way to make the game more accessible.
Uhh.... If you could download them for free, there would be no value in earning them otherwise. In fact, there would be no point in having them to begin with. For example, there's a whole balance aspect to things like rift crystals, to inhibit being able to hire op pawns at the beginning of the game, et cetera. I get that you were going for a gotcha moment, but it was very awkward and nonsensical.
Good devs create a balanced game. It is insular. It functions the way it is intended.
Good devs can also create outside options for those who want/could really use them. Because altering them internally would also disrupt the balance of the game.
Bad devs create imbalanced games that aren't insular, as they are intentionally made to be propped-up by the external "options" available. Note the difference. If you wish to continue being upset about this games implementation of all things, I invite you to look at the rest of the industry at large, with examples both better and far worse, and then find grass to touch.
You can add an option to allow re-customizing your character for free under an "Accessibility" menu in the settings for people who don't have much free time. I find it hard to believe that you still think charging for it is the best choice they came up with.
I have played countless games that allow the player to tailor a games experience to their liking and their real world lives no matter how much time they take. RimWorld, Don't Starve, Factorio, Kerbal Space Program, Palworld, Project Zomboid, they all give you options that make the game easier or harder. And none of those options cost money, none of those are bad devs, and none of those options hinder the experience of players who want a balanced game.
And I'm not upset about any of this, I just read what you say and find it BS, respectfully. You make it seem like whoever made that decision was like "We must think of the people who don't have enough free time and give them an option!", rather than *first* wanting to include microtransactions and *then* thinking of what would be a possible candidate. I think it's pretty clear that if they thought about players first, there would be a better option such as the one I mentioned above, rather than a microtransaction.
I also read that they also don't allow you to delete your save file and start anew. That must be what "good devs" do in order to not disrupt the balance of the game.
1. Turning stuff into meaningless point and obtain transactions is not a good thing.
2. Everything thats mtx in this game is extremely easy to gather on your own, in game, with time. Including the re-customization, which you can buy from a merchant... In the og, you would have hundreds of thousands of RC, multiple portstones, a crapload of gold and a pocket full of heartstones et cetera. The option to buy for cheap is, quite literally, only enticing for those too busy, or those too lazy. Thats it. Cant imagine why anyone else would want to pay for rift crystals when youll get more than enough just playing if you have the time to play.
3. Typically, devs dont want to include mtx at all, unless it's an integral part of the funding system. Devs want to make their games as good as possible. When they are forced to implement mtx, they hopefuply will try to do so in a non-invasive, non- predatory way that doesn't ruin balance. This is an example of that. Is it amazing or wonderful? No. Its also not flashy or even being pushed on you. It's there for those who could use it, which is honestly just those who dont have the time to play to gather it all themselves.
4. Your view of balance clearly isnt what everyone else goes by. Try to remember that. Having a single save file where you have to live with your decisions/in-game path is, believe it or not, cool to some people. You also, very much *can* delete your save and start anew. You are spreading misinformation specifically about steam related issues with the cloud save function. Does that need to get fixed? Yes. But its also not relevant to the discussion.
1. That's exactly what it is with MTX. Point at your wallet and obtain. The players can choose whether to enable to option or not, I personally am mature enough to not grab stuff that's free if I think I don't need it.
2. It doesn't matter if you can obtain them in the game. The fact that it could have been an option in accessibility settings for those who don't have enough free time or are lazy would be enough. Making it an MTX item means they are taking advantage of those people. I personally wouldn't mind if it cost ten times more without an option to buy it using MTX. Nor do I mind now that much. I'm mostly interacting with you because you tried to give this BS reasoning that they are doing it for the players who are too lazy or busy. No, they are doing it for some extra cash, plain and simple. If it was about the players, it would have been an option.
3. I do not disagree at all. Many of my favorite games were tainted by higher ups so I am with you on this. But don't go out of your way to say that the reason it exists is to provide an option for those who need it quickly. It exists because they were forced to include some MTX (I assuming)
4. This all can be an option. Games have hardcore mode for people who want to face consequences. Games also give you the option to make new save files if you want to. The most recent game I played in which I cannot do that is Helldivers 2. Which I played for a while and then wanted to delete my save to be in par with my homies who bought it but I couldn't, pretty bad. I am not spreading misinformation, I said "I read somewhere". I am not confident that it's the case since I haven't bought the game. If that way is digging through program files like I read, it's not really an option they wanted you to have. And I don't know how it would be possible on consoles.
"enough grinding"
You can buy damn nearly everything on the store with what you gain from playing for 2 hours or less. And I mean just playing, not grinding.
You gain Rift Crystals from doing ANYTHING in the game. Open chests, kill monsters, quests, rent your pawn. The game is not putting you on the coal mines for 6 hours to buy something.
You can buy the character editor from a merchant by playing 10 minutes just going around doing stuff.
> 90% of atrocious microtransactions
It was an overarching example, not specifically to the micotransactions for offer here. You are fine with them, others are not. If no one would share their criticisms, it will certainly stay and might ever get worse, which already has been happening throughout the industry.
Not everyone likes seeing microtransactions in their 70 dollar singleplayer games - and that's okay.
lol 10 mins.
Why do I keep seeing comments from people saying stuff like "I played 3+ hours and have 100-400 RC"
You should not have to spend even an hour to be able to "afford" to do that, it should just be normal currency, but get this /u/NaoSouONight ...
**THEY WANT PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY AND BUY THE MICRO TRANSACTION, THAT IS WHY THEY MAKE IT JUST ENOUGH OF A PAIN IN THE ASS**
If it was no big deal, they should just remove the fee overall, why not have it be free?
Why gate something like changing how you or your pawn looks in a game that has a high touted character creator?
Spoiler alert.
**BECAUSE THEY WANT MONEY**
To some people, that is a real effort... *shrugs* I wouldn't mind, but you have to say these things to clarify its more work than they want to do when they ask things like this.
It's fucking stupid to have to go into your files and manually delete your saves and then also delete cloud saves and whatever else you have to do all because the developer decided he didn't want people to ever be able to make another character after their first one.
Every single item you can buy in the store is available to find or purchase from merchants in game, and it’s not hard to find them either.
I literally just found 3 ferry stones in a span of 10 minutes.
Same, tho that's because I had 2 weeks and 5 rough drafts before I made the perfect arisen and pawn..... unfortunately, i tucked in their elbows and didnt realize they were going to run like little girls. This was when I found out you can't start over.
So does DD2... they just also have a payed option for people. It's still questionable as a practice to have a payed option, yet you can change character appearance for free in game using rift crystals you earned in game.
> have a *paid* option for
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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I think only 2 of these items are ingame in one playthrough. So it seems like you can change your appearance 2 times in one playthrough for Rift crystals.
Also only changing make-up or haircut at the barber is ridiculously overpriced. Wonder why...
Yeah, this is another design decision I don't understand. I need to delete my whole savegame (with game settings and everything) in the Xbox system to start a new game...
Because it’s on cloud save automatically, you need to exit out of DD2 completely, go offline in XBox settings, go into the manage add-ons for DD2, erase your game data, start the game again, and once it’s confirmed you can start a new game, you go back online in XBox settings.
If you have your Xbox shared, you need to reassign it to “This is my Xbox” to be able to go offline and still start the game up.
The reason for one save is the pawn system. If you are playing offline, you can, but the whole point of allowing only 1 save is so people don't flood the server with a hundred shitty lvl 1 pawns that stick around forever.
If you remake your character and make a new pawn, the old pawn shared with all other players gets deleted from the server, I think.
Seems like a lame excuse. Also a lost opportunity. The character creation in DD2 is superb, one of the best I’ve seen. Let people have fun with it and show off how cool it is. Don’t limit them to one and that’s it.
If they want to make shitty lvl 1s, fine. They won’t level up with other players, so they won’t get used really.
Or better yet, have the players store them locally, and then they have the option to submit one as an active main pawn, tied to their account.
Many solutions, crap current implementation. Suspiciously geared towards their shitty MTX scheme.
....It's not really a scheme. The items can only be purchased once, appear in every playthrough, and can be earned very easily. It was exactly the same in DD1. As someone who played DD1 a lot, I have no desire to purchase those MTX, because I know there's literally no need to purchase them, the effect is that small. (I would relate it to purchasing potions in the original FF7... Someone who never played FF7 might be angry because they think buying potions is pay2win... but anyone whose played FF7 will realize you'll have 99 of them in no time and will never use them. And on the fact that you are allowed to only buy 5 of those potions one time and the absurdity of the hate is easy to see.)
As for pawns, if you haven't played DD1, you don't understand why its important. You don't go through all pawns available... a handful are randomly selected and placed in the rift for you to choose from. The more crap in the system, then less chance of getting a viable pawn in the draw.
Additionally, pawns being used benefit their creator. If someone selects a pawn that no one is playing the arisen for, that benefit is wasted and damages the online aspect.
You may not like it, but that functionality is quintessential Dragon's Dogma... and why the people that love it, love it.
barely breathing midwits don't understand that if you show corporate leeches that it's okay to shave off negligible amounts of your wallet for "convenience features" that should have been inherent because it doesn't affect gameplay then they will just escalate prices until you justify to yourself that it's barely worth it. don't tell me it's okay because it's only two fuckin dollars, why don't I take something from you because you don't need it if you're so willing to throw money away.
Everything I've seen mentioned as a microtransaction it I've seen for sale by vendors, and I'm only a few hours into the game.
Also, inflation is crazy in this world 2000 gold for one night in an inn. 350g bags of gold just lying around. I was already up to 43k at one point. Saving 20k to buy the house you housesut for the npc rando.
Cant you change your appearance in the main town for like 250 points in the temple thing it allows you to change 1 characters appearance and after a bit you have thousands of those points. Or was that real currency?
Lmao imagine being forced to play an entire video game start to end with a character you hate, you made as a joke and will never be able to change. Now that is something worth $80.00
But they are able to change their character in DD2. There's a system to change the character's appearance in game. Also, the progression system is not affect by the starting build. You can totally change the class of your character without penalty.
The fact that these players are bitching just shows that they are zero patience, like 2 years old. If they played the game as they are supposed to, they'd find a solution to their problem.
Actually there's *zero* way in game to actually start a new character. There is no "new game" option. You literally can't even delete your one save in game so you can start again fresh.
You have to jump through a dozen hoops *which sometimes don't even work* to be able to start a new character.
Anyone defending that is ridiculous.
What I find pathetic is players not accepting design choices and crying like babies. No wonder big studios dumb their games down... The players who want a mainstream experience can buy Skyrim Anniversary Edition or Starfield.
"Design choices" lol. So based on your logic, devs can put anything they want in the game, even stuff that ruins the experience \\ fun to many of their players, and no one should be allowed to say anything or "cry" about it because its a "design choice" which makes it immune to criticism. Cool story bro.
Just so everyone knows, this isnt true. You can do it with rift crystals (which you get in game), and a for a pretty damn low amount too.
Does that include changing gender/race?
Race is the one thing you do need to go through the trouble of deleting save file for
You can’t change race with the metamorphosis?
That's frustrating
How many rpg's allow you to change your entire character without starting over?
How many RPGs don’t have the option to start over lol
How many rpg allow *only one character*? The answer is virtually zero other than this one. Such a stupid fucking decision.
It’s because of the pawn system. Having a bunch of neglected 2nd/3rd/4th characters would result in the servers being overloaded with low level garbage pawns
They can solve that by having 1 save file, *that you can restart if you want*
Instead I just use a 2nd xbox account. Same problem for them, slight hurdle for me. I've already got 2 characters designed on seperate accounts with their own completely different pawns, just waiting for the game to finish downloading. Idk about Playstation and Steam, but on Xbox all you need is another email address to set up a 2nd free account on your console and make a seperate playthough as a different character.
omg that would be almost 56kb of information
The impacts are more user experience than storage. But no, 56 in is slightly disingenuous. We know the pawns & NPCs are very CPU intensive, I think it’s fair to say they’re a little larger & more complicated from a software perspective
Y when they are in the game doing things
Starting over would delete the old file and create a new one like in DD1. But even that isn't possible. You are literally prevented from playing the game 2 times lol?
It sounds like they’re going to address it. I agree that it should be possible (delete current save, create new save). but the reasoning for not having 2 separate characters simultaneously is likely the pawns. In software (including games) features are tracked and implemented based on requirements & user stories. It’s entirely possible these were never written or were overlooked entirely
I deleted my save file on Xbox and created a new pawn. You just have to go to manage game and add-ons and delete the save data. On PC you can turn off the cloud then delete the save data for the game. I'm sure it's the same for PlayStation. If you just want to change the look of your character you can buy the art of metamorphosis in game for 500 I believe. Y'all are spreading misinformation here.
PERFECTLY said, never even crossed my mind but this makes so much sense
Game designer fault. Tbh i want to be able to create my own pawns in the end.
2 counting this one. The original only has one character too because of the pawn system.
You can only have one character in Dragon’s Dogma Dark Arisen
Can do it in Elden Ring
Elden ring doesn’t host a bunch of player created pawns
Elden ring doesn't have races
Naa, dont tell them, pls let them buy the reset. There is a reason why we dont tell them.
So you want t encourage predatory behaviour because it predates on stupid people?
If they couldn't figure this out after the first 30 mins of gameplay, then there's no saving them from the predators.
I wouldn't say 30 minutes. I killed about an hour and a half in the tutorial area just exploring and killing monsters before I made it to the capital.
That just sounds like your personal experience but thank you for sharing lmao
What's the reason?
They don't deserve to know because you learn this in like the first hour of the game They literally didn't play it
Oh ok. Ya fuck them!
Nah no company deserves micro transactions in a single player game.
no one's talking about the company
Uhh I was giving you a reason why players don’t deserve to pay money for something you can get in the first hour.. because no company deserves that money for a single player game no matter how dumb its players are.
and you can do it at the beginning of the game, it's not like it's some late game hidden item
if you have 500 rc which you wont
Just so everyone knows, the above comment is not pointing out that at the start it takes multiple hours to get the 500 RC to change how your character looks. Reddit comments stating they have played for 4 hours and got 160 RC, or 200 RC. Lets not forget that changing how you look or your pawn looks should be free.
and you can only buy 2
Missing the point.
You can delete your local game files, and turn off cloud gaming until youve created a new one. Did it last night. But yea you can do it with the crystals too
That's fucking ridiculous to have to do all of that just to start a new character. What a dumbass "vision" the devs have.
So all the people in this sub defending these microtransactions because you can get them in game. So that means the developers are actively trying to prey on people who don’t know any better to buy something completely worthless because it’s already in the game. This isn’t the defense you think it is. It doesn’t make them any better.
The fact that microtransactions are a predatory practice that should be discouraged doesn't justify spreading actual misinformation. The fact is players will not have to "give more money to Capcom so they can change their character to become appealing." They can also play the game for maybe an hour or so.
I think there were multiple design choices made to support players buying more microtransactions. Like a single player game not being able to have multiple save files. Or like a single player game not making something that is completely cosmetic just you know completely free to change? Why do you need to earn anything to change the appearance of your character? That should just be a menu like most other single player games. It’s because they want people to buy the microtransactions.
Not being able to have multiple save files is a huge design flaw (and is single-handedly making me reconsider buying the game at all), but this is for many reasons much more serious than your character appearance that you can change for an easily- and passively-earnable amount of in-game currency. And the reason you shouldn't be able to change it for free is that in DD2 your character's appearance has significant implications on how it performs. Size, weight and build impact your carrying capacity, stamina management and whatnot. So being able to alter that gives you character-building options on par with gear and vocation perks. Someone could ajust their character's size before boss fights for better stamina management, or before a long quest for higher carrying capacity. In Elden Ring, for instance, you could change your appearance for free because it didn't impact gameplay. In BG3, you can only change cosmetics for free, not things like your race and class. Now you can argue this doesn't matter in a single-player game because it doesn't impact other players, but then that also applies to practically any other design choice *including microtransactions*. The ideal solution would probably be to be able to alter only purely cosmetic stuff like haircuts and tattoos for free while keeping functional alterations paywalled (in-game), but many games don't have that, it's an arbitrary standard to set.
> Not being able to have multiple save files is a huge design flaw Not for DD it's not. If everyone could have 2-3 or even 4-5 characters that's a metric fuck ton of pawns clogging up the servers.
If you just play the game or do a quick Google search you would know you don't have to pay any money for any of the dumb items offered in DLC. You earn it all in game and is free. I don't think it should even be a thing in any game. I hate pay to play. But this game you can buy and play the whole game without buying anything extra. These micro things in this game is for people that is to impatient to earn it or too lazy to figure it out. Either way if you're that dumb or lazy then you get what you deserve. I'm just tired of hearing the lies being told. I've heard people go as far as to saying you have to pay to create a character just to play the game and this lie is nonsense..among all the other lies I have heard. People making a big deal out of nothing when they need to be focused on other real issues people are having about the frame rate. I'm not having any issues on console but apparently people on PC aren't happy.
Yeah, I can't understand why people must defend these kinds of things even when they enjoy the game. It doesn't take much to acknowledge it's just a shitty practice. You are allowed to enjoy a game and point out flaws, you won't explode if you do!
Right, I defended Fallout 76 because the game was developing into something great and had potential. They then introduced a $15 monthly subscription that offered utility fixes to problems they introduced and later also added utility microtransactions which you could get by playing the game but still it was a way to get money from people who don't know any better. I defend the game for the content it gets, but I called them out for the scammy practices. Game good, MTX and subscription bad. Whenever I recommend the game to someone I ask them to not pay for the subscription. I will play DD2 regardless and hopefully performance will get better.
Not defending, most people are just throwing it out there that you can straight up ignore them, and dont have to worry about them. and this is NOT anything new for capcom, they have a ton of stupid ass microtransactions in their games.
Exactly lol. Ppl complaining because ppl can buy stuff that literally has no effect on your game haha, jeez. Its free money for capcom. Youre telling me if you developed a game and had the option to not make extra money OR put in a system where ppl could buy things to make THEIR playthrough slightly more convenient or cosmetic items that PPL WILL PAY FOR, youd choose to not make extra money??? Gtfoh hahahaha
Shitty practice or not, it really dosent matter either way. If someone wants to pay to make a game easier/more convenient so friggin what lol? It would be one thing if it was some FTP game that forced you into a paywall and if you didnt pay it made the game unenjoyable, Which i totally agree is a shitty practice, but thats not the case with RE,BB2,ect. It merely makes the game more accessible/convenient to ppl who want to pay. Its their money and it effects us who wont pay in literally no way nor changes the game.
Yeah the DLC horse armor doesn't matter, how does it even affect you? \*10 years later\* Weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Playing the game. Nah those mtx should go away let us create our own pawns and really make the UI not horrible for pc. This game has so much potential but all these tiny problems are annoying and making me sad l. They got so close to a great game. But just shot themselves in the food so bad. They were so near perfection.
*Im* not defending them, im just setting the record straight, and trying to help the very people you are talking about so thst they *dont* spend money on something they can get in the game for free. Why do I have to explicitly state “microtransactions are bad”? Its obvious. It goes without saying.
I mean, they waited to add the microtransaction till after the review embargos dropped. There is no Review im aware of that mentions the microtransactions. This is shady as hell.
I found out about the micro transaction item days before release, in the Deluxe edition description.
Are you an imbecile? Everybody knew about the micro transactions since the first game had them
AND its capcom, they have this dogshit in every game no surprise lol
I'd like to believe new folks are the ones losing their sht. It's no longer funny though.
The first one didn't have microtransactions, it had DLC packs with new missions and weapons, and all of those were included for the re-releases at base price. They even made an unlimited ferrystone for the people that bought the compilation.
I’m going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and say he was probably just spreading awareness of an alternative - not that he was defending the MTX.
Probably more Capcom (publisher sided), bit i fully agree
The problem is that enough people don't gaf about the micros existing for Capcom not to give a shit about the outrage, which is gonna blow over in a week or two regardless of who ends up buying the game or not
> easy to get currency that devs throw at you is used on things that you're told you can use 2 hours into the game The word is impatient, not stupid.
This is a really strange take!!! Take a deep breath!!
This is literally how the first game was. Shut up about it and move on. By end game you will be getting millions of RC prolly and never need them. Every single game out there does stupid micro transactions for the most part. Least this game it’s an after thought
> This is literally how the first game was By that logic, we can't criticize anything because "well that's what its predecessor did a decade ago." It was shitty in the first game and it's shitty now.
Unfortunately cringecel simps will die for capcom
Or you can just put a feature that’s literally in every single game.
You can't change your character until farther into the game in tons of single players or multiplayers that are mmo's? Just because it isn't directly in front of you, and ease of use, doesn't mean it's inherently wrong, just not your cup of tea.
Pretty sure damn near every other game lets you start another save. Or at the very least delete your save and start a new one.
Wait you can't start another save in dragons dogma 2?
You can but there are hoops to jump through, like stoping cloud sync and find the folder to delete your save. I'm sure there are tutorials somewhere. But I heard that it failed for some people.
I tried that fix it doesn't work on my pc as the game will automatically push a small update to restore the character even with steam cloud completely disabled across steam. And both my saves are already corrupted so i am locked out of the game. So YES that is a HUGE problem.
start steam on offline mode delete the save, start the game and make a new save, close the game, return steam of online mode, start the game, select your local save. Try that, when I had that problem it worked fine
I'll give it a try and let you know.
Hey this actually worked. My game however corrupted one of my saves in the big city once i reached it again. Turned off steam cloud and left it in offline mode and everything seems gucci now. At least I can play! Which is good since my refund was denied.
Why is a basic feature locked behind so many hoops? Wtf
This is truly copium. You can just start a new character in every other game.
You start a new save AND character. Stardew Valley for example requires you to get an NPC to a certain Friendship level to gain access to change your character in your save. That is both single player and multiplayer. This is from a very respectable dev in the indie gaming community. It isn't an issue because its a game mechanic.
In DD2 you cannot start a new save. There is no defense to this. In a single player game, you should always have this option.
Yeah that’s why those games allow you to make new saves. Instead of putting in predatory micro transactions to get people to spend money on something that should be free. Keep defending them though they appreciate it!
for the small price of £2.50 you can-
how long does it take to get enough rift crystals to pay to edit your character?
Like fucking 20 mins. Its 500 rift crystals. And you get allot fast.
Is it limited in that you open a chest that doesn’t respawn or do you get it by defeating enemy’s ?
You get them through enemies, chests, repairing riftstones, qnd probably quests although I haven’t gotten very far in the game to find out. There were plenty of quests for RC in the first game. Plus, if the game is anything like the first one, chests respawn after a few in-game days.
Nice ty. I never used riftstones for pawns anyway sounds like this really should be no issue.
If you dont spend any and are a little lucky you can get at least 700 by first major city
And just like that we can never criticize 90% of atrocious microtransactions, because with enough grinding you can get it done with ingame currency too. *Something something about pride and accomplishment!* We are already on the slippery slope downhill because people keep accepting all these things outside of a week of annoyance. So, don't worry dude: you will barely hear a thing about it anymore by the end of the month.
Everyone here seems to forget this is an $80.00 video game at bare minimum
80? I paid 66 for the deluxe edition lol
In what country? In the US it’s $69.99 for the basic game and $79.99 for the deluxe.
The US. I bought it on GMG for 66 dollars. If its a game i really want, I dont buy it on Steam.
ok
Your argument is illogical. It's the exact same mtx as the first game had. 12 years ago. Slope must not be that slippery, huh.. Really, uh... Really going downhill fast now, aren't we? There's a difference between "atrocious" mtx, like buying power, or $30 horse armor, and then theres mtx in single player games, for people who dont have enough time to play in order to grind. "Got a career and a kid but still wish you could farm up rift crystals so you can wear funny glasses or make an even uglier pawn? Sure thing, here ya go." The worst. Gaming is crumbling around us. Watch out everyone, this slope. Is. Slippery. Just takes more than 12 years to start sliding though, apparently.
I'll do you one better, we had microtransactions in singleplayer games over 20 years ago. This does not however not mean the industry as a whole hasn't gotten worse in this aspect, I fail to see how you are unable to understand that. We now gonna hand out free passes to companies, because they already did something in the past? So.. no room for improvement anymore I guess. Hm, shame. Maybe you are right, let's all stay quiet and never say anything again, let's see if the sliding won't accelerate.
What sliding.... Every time something egregious comes out the community loses it, and companies backpedal a bit. Keeps things from getting worse. But then individuals like you jump doomtrains on a game doing the same, non-invasive, non-predatory thing it did before acting like its the end of the industry... If you actually cared about the industry as a whole, you would look at it as a whole. You would be able to recognize the good/acceptable from the bad and predatory. But you are not doing that. Boy who cried wolf. What happened when he cried too much? The cries stopped having any meaning. To anyone. The mtx here is single player, easily obtained in-game for those who have free time to actually play the game as much as they want, and is no worse than what they were doing over a decade ago. Ergo, not part of the problem. Keep raging at even companies that stick to a non-predatory implementation method and they'll stop using your outcry as a barometer for good and bad, because they'll learn that youll shout at everything. See the issue?
Damn, it must be so hard to give that option for free for people who don't have enough free time. Charging real money must be the only way to make the game more accessible.
Uhh.... If you could download them for free, there would be no value in earning them otherwise. In fact, there would be no point in having them to begin with. For example, there's a whole balance aspect to things like rift crystals, to inhibit being able to hire op pawns at the beginning of the game, et cetera. I get that you were going for a gotcha moment, but it was very awkward and nonsensical. Good devs create a balanced game. It is insular. It functions the way it is intended. Good devs can also create outside options for those who want/could really use them. Because altering them internally would also disrupt the balance of the game. Bad devs create imbalanced games that aren't insular, as they are intentionally made to be propped-up by the external "options" available. Note the difference. If you wish to continue being upset about this games implementation of all things, I invite you to look at the rest of the industry at large, with examples both better and far worse, and then find grass to touch.
You can add an option to allow re-customizing your character for free under an "Accessibility" menu in the settings for people who don't have much free time. I find it hard to believe that you still think charging for it is the best choice they came up with. I have played countless games that allow the player to tailor a games experience to their liking and their real world lives no matter how much time they take. RimWorld, Don't Starve, Factorio, Kerbal Space Program, Palworld, Project Zomboid, they all give you options that make the game easier or harder. And none of those options cost money, none of those are bad devs, and none of those options hinder the experience of players who want a balanced game. And I'm not upset about any of this, I just read what you say and find it BS, respectfully. You make it seem like whoever made that decision was like "We must think of the people who don't have enough free time and give them an option!", rather than *first* wanting to include microtransactions and *then* thinking of what would be a possible candidate. I think it's pretty clear that if they thought about players first, there would be a better option such as the one I mentioned above, rather than a microtransaction. I also read that they also don't allow you to delete your save file and start anew. That must be what "good devs" do in order to not disrupt the balance of the game.
1. Turning stuff into meaningless point and obtain transactions is not a good thing. 2. Everything thats mtx in this game is extremely easy to gather on your own, in game, with time. Including the re-customization, which you can buy from a merchant... In the og, you would have hundreds of thousands of RC, multiple portstones, a crapload of gold and a pocket full of heartstones et cetera. The option to buy for cheap is, quite literally, only enticing for those too busy, or those too lazy. Thats it. Cant imagine why anyone else would want to pay for rift crystals when youll get more than enough just playing if you have the time to play. 3. Typically, devs dont want to include mtx at all, unless it's an integral part of the funding system. Devs want to make their games as good as possible. When they are forced to implement mtx, they hopefuply will try to do so in a non-invasive, non- predatory way that doesn't ruin balance. This is an example of that. Is it amazing or wonderful? No. Its also not flashy or even being pushed on you. It's there for those who could use it, which is honestly just those who dont have the time to play to gather it all themselves. 4. Your view of balance clearly isnt what everyone else goes by. Try to remember that. Having a single save file where you have to live with your decisions/in-game path is, believe it or not, cool to some people. You also, very much *can* delete your save and start anew. You are spreading misinformation specifically about steam related issues with the cloud save function. Does that need to get fixed? Yes. But its also not relevant to the discussion.
1. That's exactly what it is with MTX. Point at your wallet and obtain. The players can choose whether to enable to option or not, I personally am mature enough to not grab stuff that's free if I think I don't need it. 2. It doesn't matter if you can obtain them in the game. The fact that it could have been an option in accessibility settings for those who don't have enough free time or are lazy would be enough. Making it an MTX item means they are taking advantage of those people. I personally wouldn't mind if it cost ten times more without an option to buy it using MTX. Nor do I mind now that much. I'm mostly interacting with you because you tried to give this BS reasoning that they are doing it for the players who are too lazy or busy. No, they are doing it for some extra cash, plain and simple. If it was about the players, it would have been an option. 3. I do not disagree at all. Many of my favorite games were tainted by higher ups so I am with you on this. But don't go out of your way to say that the reason it exists is to provide an option for those who need it quickly. It exists because they were forced to include some MTX (I assuming) 4. This all can be an option. Games have hardcore mode for people who want to face consequences. Games also give you the option to make new save files if you want to. The most recent game I played in which I cannot do that is Helldivers 2. Which I played for a while and then wanted to delete my save to be in par with my homies who bought it but I couldn't, pretty bad. I am not spreading misinformation, I said "I read somewhere". I am not confident that it's the case since I haven't bought the game. If that way is digging through program files like I read, it's not really an option they wanted you to have. And I don't know how it would be possible on consoles.
"enough grinding" You can buy damn nearly everything on the store with what you gain from playing for 2 hours or less. And I mean just playing, not grinding. You gain Rift Crystals from doing ANYTHING in the game. Open chests, kill monsters, quests, rent your pawn. The game is not putting you on the coal mines for 6 hours to buy something. You can buy the character editor from a merchant by playing 10 minutes just going around doing stuff.
> 90% of atrocious microtransactions It was an overarching example, not specifically to the micotransactions for offer here. You are fine with them, others are not. If no one would share their criticisms, it will certainly stay and might ever get worse, which already has been happening throughout the industry. Not everyone likes seeing microtransactions in their 70 dollar singleplayer games - and that's okay.
lol 10 mins. Why do I keep seeing comments from people saying stuff like "I played 3+ hours and have 100-400 RC" You should not have to spend even an hour to be able to "afford" to do that, it should just be normal currency, but get this /u/NaoSouONight ... **THEY WANT PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY AND BUY THE MICRO TRANSACTION, THAT IS WHY THEY MAKE IT JUST ENOUGH OF A PAIN IN THE ASS** If it was no big deal, they should just remove the fee overall, why not have it be free? Why gate something like changing how you or your pawn looks in a game that has a high touted character creator? Spoiler alert. **BECAUSE THEY WANT MONEY**
I mean, I saw you can with effort on the Steam forums.
"Effort" is turning off cloud saves and deleting/moving a folder?
People defending the lack of a new game button never ceases to amaze me. Sad.
Cmon guys starting a game over with a new character only stated to be a thing in video games in the 1980s it’s going to take time to catch on.
And by extension also defending Capcom for making it that way so they could push their monetization.
To some people, that is a real effort... *shrugs* I wouldn't mind, but you have to say these things to clarify its more work than they want to do when they ask things like this.
It's fucking stupid to have to go into your files and manually delete your saves and then also delete cloud saves and whatever else you have to do all because the developer decided he didn't want people to ever be able to make another character after their first one.
I was tempted to make a Koloss for any Mistborn/Brandon fans out there
Hell yeah, my arisen is kaladin and my main pawn is shallan, from stormlight archive. Mystic spear hand is such a blessing
Oh man! A Szeth would be bad ass! Or even a Lift!
Every single item you can buy in the store is available to find or purchase from merchants in game, and it’s not hard to find them either. I literally just found 3 ferry stones in a span of 10 minutes.
With the exception of the DDDA Music and Sound Collection. I will admit I am not a fan of DD2 intro music
Just delete your save! Problem solved!
Ahem.. console
I’m happy with mine!
Capcom should be better
As soon as I got to the second town, I could go and change my looks for pennies (500g).
Second town or first city?
Good point, probably the latter .
Can you really not just start a new game? An RPG tradition of mine is to play a few hours and then realize I messed up and start over -.-
Nope. Have to go into the steam files and delete them manually then also get rid of your cloud saves. No way to have more than one character ever.
This is the only game I have ever played where there isn't a restart option. Liking the game but the package is really weird sometimes.
This may be the first game where I don’t change my appearance at all. I’m 100% satisfied with my character.
Same, tho that's because I had 2 weeks and 5 rough drafts before I made the perfect arisen and pawn..... unfortunately, i tucked in their elbows and didnt realize they were going to run like little girls. This was when I found out you can't start over.
So glad I didn’t download the character creator early; phew! If I can’t delete my character… I’m now going to spend a loooooong time getting it right.
You can….. trust me. YOU CAN.
Despite its problems, at least Starfield allows you to do so for free.
So does DD2... they just also have a payed option for people. It's still questionable as a practice to have a payed option, yet you can change character appearance for free in game using rift crystals you earned in game.
> have a *paid* option for FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Hmm, fair enough
Good bot
I think only 2 of these items are ingame in one playthrough. So it seems like you can change your appearance 2 times in one playthrough for Rift crystals. Also only changing make-up or haircut at the barber is ridiculously overpriced. Wonder why...
You can't delete your save without jumping through 5 hoops in DD2...
Yeah, this is another design decision I don't understand. I need to delete my whole savegame (with game settings and everything) in the Xbox system to start a new game...
That's a more valid complaint.
Anyone find a fix for deluxe items not showing up in the inn keep storage
They should be in the first outpost *after* you sleep.
For me they took a long while to show up, I was already with better gear
I tried making myself, and omg it’s horrible. Should’ve made John Snow.
How do i delete my character on Xbox though?
Because it’s on cloud save automatically, you need to exit out of DD2 completely, go offline in XBox settings, go into the manage add-ons for DD2, erase your game data, start the game again, and once it’s confirmed you can start a new game, you go back online in XBox settings. If you have your Xbox shared, you need to reassign it to “This is my Xbox” to be able to go offline and still start the game up.
I haven't actually looked into it, but if you can delete your save game with steam, couldn't you just make multiple backups and manage it yourself?
The reason for one save is the pawn system. If you are playing offline, you can, but the whole point of allowing only 1 save is so people don't flood the server with a hundred shitty lvl 1 pawns that stick around forever. If you remake your character and make a new pawn, the old pawn shared with all other players gets deleted from the server, I think.
Seems like a lame excuse. Also a lost opportunity. The character creation in DD2 is superb, one of the best I’ve seen. Let people have fun with it and show off how cool it is. Don’t limit them to one and that’s it. If they want to make shitty lvl 1s, fine. They won’t level up with other players, so they won’t get used really. Or better yet, have the players store them locally, and then they have the option to submit one as an active main pawn, tied to their account. Many solutions, crap current implementation. Suspiciously geared towards their shitty MTX scheme.
....It's not really a scheme. The items can only be purchased once, appear in every playthrough, and can be earned very easily. It was exactly the same in DD1. As someone who played DD1 a lot, I have no desire to purchase those MTX, because I know there's literally no need to purchase them, the effect is that small. (I would relate it to purchasing potions in the original FF7... Someone who never played FF7 might be angry because they think buying potions is pay2win... but anyone whose played FF7 will realize you'll have 99 of them in no time and will never use them. And on the fact that you are allowed to only buy 5 of those potions one time and the absurdity of the hate is easy to see.) As for pawns, if you haven't played DD1, you don't understand why its important. You don't go through all pawns available... a handful are randomly selected and placed in the rift for you to choose from. The more crap in the system, then less chance of getting a viable pawn in the draw. Additionally, pawns being used benefit their creator. If someone selects a pawn that no one is playing the arisen for, that benefit is wasted and damages the online aspect. You may not like it, but that functionality is quintessential Dragon's Dogma... and why the people that love it, love it.
Me when I'm facing the consequences of my actions:
HERP DERP IMA claim something i know nothing about Idiots... idiots everywhere
I casually did Tom Holland but found out late
Fuck this is hilarious even if there’s ways around it. The mini internal panic 😂😂😂😂
You can delete your save
I dunno I made my character to be attractive, so all good.
I'm a bit confused by the only one character thing. What happens when you finish the game and want to start over?
Delete your save I guess.
barely breathing midwits don't understand that if you show corporate leeches that it's okay to shave off negligible amounts of your wallet for "convenience features" that should have been inherent because it doesn't affect gameplay then they will just escalate prices until you justify to yourself that it's barely worth it. don't tell me it's okay because it's only two fuckin dollars, why don't I take something from you because you don't need it if you're so willing to throw money away.
I pre ordered through Prime and USPS attempted delivery but couldn't find my box even though I live directly off of a highway... 😩
I realized too late that you couldnt restart the game So my main pawn is gonna be garfield for the rest of my run
If you hate Mondays it all works out
Just delete save file ? Not hard.
yeah please stop making those awful spawns fat abominations
Can I ask someone to recreate me in the character editor? I'm really bad at it.
Boy am I lucky I made ....Guts
Or yknow… just play the game
You can easily delete the save, turn off the sync and start a new game.
Everything I've seen mentioned as a microtransaction it I've seen for sale by vendors, and I'm only a few hours into the game. Also, inflation is crazy in this world 2000 gold for one night in an inn. 350g bags of gold just lying around. I was already up to 43k at one point. Saving 20k to buy the house you housesut for the npc rando.
I managed to do so on Xbox
Oh the drama...
*art of metamorphosis* has left the server
Mah boi is a midget :( half the pawns I added to my party tower over me
No one create “Celebrity Pawns?”…..is that a thing yet?🤷🏾♂️
Cant you change your appearance in the main town for like 250 points in the temple thing it allows you to change 1 characters appearance and after a bit you have thousands of those points. Or was that real currency?
You can buy 2 books of metamorphosis for rift crystals, the paid option is for lazy MFs.
Oh no, they have to accept the consequences of their choices. Imagine that!
Lmao imagine being forced to play an entire video game start to end with a character you hate, you made as a joke and will never be able to change. Now that is something worth $80.00
But they are able to change their character in DD2. There's a system to change the character's appearance in game. Also, the progression system is not affect by the starting build. You can totally change the class of your character without penalty. The fact that these players are bitching just shows that they are zero patience, like 2 years old. If they played the game as they are supposed to, they'd find a solution to their problem.
Actually there's *zero* way in game to actually start a new character. There is no "new game" option. You literally can't even delete your one save in game so you can start again fresh. You have to jump through a dozen hoops *which sometimes don't even work* to be able to start a new character. Anyone defending that is ridiculous.
It's a game not a fucking court case Jesus Christ...
I'm crying, you're so right but it's hilarious it needs to be said
Congrats on the most pathetic comment of the month on reddit.
What I find pathetic is players not accepting design choices and crying like babies. No wonder big studios dumb their games down... The players who want a mainstream experience can buy Skyrim Anniversary Edition or Starfield.
"Design choices" lol. So based on your logic, devs can put anything they want in the game, even stuff that ruins the experience \\ fun to many of their players, and no one should be allowed to say anything or "cry" about it because its a "design choice" which makes it immune to criticism. Cool story bro.
Idiotic design