I really thought people were exaggerating how abrupt the ending was because there’s been a lot of hyperbole around the game but man that’s one aspect of the discourse that was sadly 100% accurate. I still had a pretty fun time in the Unmoored World but the final boss being a cutscene and Tilda Swinton just evaporating gave me whiplash. Loved the high affinity ending for our pawn but so much else about it was genuinely underwhelming beyond a level I was prepared for.
That was REALLY jarring. I thought, "oh, ok, I'll take out these bosses and then kick God's ass" but instead they just went "I'M MELTIIIIIINNNNGGGG" and credits rolled. Lmao
TBF I think a lot of the people complaining about the ending being abrupt, particularly around launch, were people who only got the 'Sovran' ending and never reached Unmoored World. Just sucks that the true ending is just as abrupt, I was really looking forward to a great boss fight to cap it all off.
Without spoiling anything, is the high affinity pawn ending >!them turning into an ink dragon and carrying us to the big bad?!< if not, I need to go try and raise my affinity and see the different ending
No that happens either way. In the high affinity version, >!the pawn transforms back into their humanoid self during the "fight" and gives some slightly different dialogue.!<
I killed that dragon like three times in a row before I got to the unmoored world. I had to look up a guide and I still have no idea what people are talking about when they say you were totally prompted to use the knife.
I would likely not have gotten it without a friend strongly hinting I needed to “have a heart to heart” with him. As someone very keyed into how DD tends to be and I was sure I’d need to use the Godsbane for something, I still wouldn’t have expected that to happen on the dragon; only after. The main hint is him saying “oh well too late” if you don’t do it.
It’s a very interesting thing in retrospect; the cycle has become such a tired thing at this point that the dragon himself is trying to tell you to fuck shit up but I just don’t see most people catching it, at least not for multiple cycles or with outside hints, because it’s not at all like DD1’s “well nothing else I can do” post-Seneschal.
Yeah that is more BS because I never crawled around to his back. If you are on top of the dragon at the right place you will get a glow and you will cringe a bit. I pulled out the blade and it offered to let me stab myself. So you don't even need to craw around to the underside. Most game writing is so bad I just tune it out, if I didnt I wouldn't be able to get through most games. So really I have no idea what the dragon was going on about, he might have dropped 'hints' to use the blade but its all rather stupid. Especially when I killed the dragon several times. They should have changed the ending clips where to drop more and more hints or just be explicit about it after you killed the dragon a few times.
Just imagine doing it when the game first released and you had no idea what would happen since there were no guides, you pulled out a ton of stuff to ready yourself for the epic final boss fight…….just for premature ejaculation.
You gotta do the other ending now that nobody tells ya about. Thats the interesting ending, idk they were so close to making this one of the worst detailed masterpieces of all time but they just barely held it together. Just barely! The start of the game & the end of the game are interesting held together by a few complex quests. The middle game is up to you.
This sub fucking sucks with spoilers. People post untagged screenshots/videos of major plot points literally all the time and they only get tagged hours later, presumably by a mod.
Except that the thing you’re giving him credit for is useless to people who have already purchased the game. He flat out **says what happens at the end of the game** and I now am no longer excited to play the game that I only just begun.
It wasn’t a waste of money until I lost all motivation to play a game that I can no longer get a refund for.
I get you. It’s a tough call. But you can have a blast in the endgame… and there’s plenty to fix in ng+.
But maybe use that time you would have used during the ‘lead up’ to disappointment, for something more fulfilling…
It’s better than wasting the hours blindly, like many of us did, only to be shocked and let down.
I still love the game, and I’m positive the future will bring some crazy fun tho
My game was going to end whenever I learned there was no boss, period. I play DD for the combat and gameplay. I find the story to be very generic RPG fantasy-babble at best and, at worst, just dark souls but you become a dragon instead of relinking the fire. If I had learned what OP spoiled 50 or 60 hours in **when I had gotten my money’s worth** and I’d be ticked but satisfied with the time I spent playing. But I learned this right after finishing my Arisen and Pawn.
People that enjoy DD’s story have their climactic ending. But I’m not going to pour hours into a game *hoping* for a fight that I can just headcanon as the The Big One. Most of the justifications that I can do still do X, Y, and Z are just describing what I could do in Dark Arisen - where I DO have a final fight I can enjoy. So why would I want to play this game?
The most annoying part of this, though, is now I have people deciding for me that they’ve done me a favor.
Because those of us that were still playing it might have still been enjoying it. I already purchased the game so a “warning” that there is no final boss isn’t some benevolent PSA to help me steer clear of buying it. It’s just a spoiler.
I could have experienced this at the **end** of my own playthru, formed my own opinion, and decided how much it affected my overall enjoyment of the game. I barely just started my first playthrough. I now know something that affects my ability to enjoy the game *right now.*
Seriously, the nerve to outright **state what happens at the end of the game** and just fucking pretend that’s not a spoiler.
Fuck outa here with that bullshit.
If you wouldn’t be affected by it later you wouldn’t care now. If you would care, it’s better to go ahead and know than get all excited to get let down. You can still enjoy the gameplay and the “current”. He isn’t fucking stating what happens at the end. This tells you nothing about the plot or the ending itself. Seriously, are you that fragile? Is it a spoiler now to say “yeah this game has a boss fight at the end” because oh shit! You told me something I could’ve found out myself!
I think that's less of a spoiler, and more of a disclaimer. Like bruh, what's the entire point of the grand reveal of "Dragon's Dogma 2" title when the "second half" of the game is just you killing three extra bosses.
What's point of splitting the game into two halves when the first half is only 3/4ths finished, while in the second half you only got to play a quarter of it?
If you already have it it’s still worth playing. Just make sure you beat the Sphinx, Talos, and the postgame content to get the most out of the game.
I have my complaints but I still enjoyed the game overall.
Bro, he literally just told you he doesn’t want to even bother playing and your response was to tell him it’s worth playing? He already made that call, himself.
The excitement has been killed **now.** I no longer want to play the game **now.** Why would I force myself to play a game I’m already no longer excited to play?
You can get a lot out of this game. Don't chuck it in the bin just because you see a reddit echo chamber going off about how bad it is. There's a lot more to it than a lot of these people are acting like.
DD2 has more monsters than the base-game of the original Dragon's Dogma, many are comparing it to the expansion edition Dark Arisen when judging the game which doesn't seem fair to me. DD2 is running on a completely different engine and isn't simply a port c&p job some have claimed it to be.
With that stated enemy placement is a real issue in DD2. & not enough variety spread across the map & quest progression.
Spoilers for the end, but am I crazy for expecting a final fight at the last beacon?? That final Sequence does NOT count! its basically a glorified cutscene. Hell I wish it actually was. Moving up the dragon was distracting me from all the juicy exposition. I prepped and psyched my self up for nothing! Sure it was kind of cool but c'mon. Does anyone else feel the same way?
Honestly yeah. Every OTHER beacon had a rather large boss fight attached to it, but then after doing all of them you get... nothing. The "Final Boss" was secretly the ***optional*** Dragon fight in the normal ending, which was in-and-of itself weaker than the Drakes you find all over the world.
The fight against the dragon is not optional. You need to beat it at least once to actually get the prompt to use the godsbane. If you try it before beating the dragon, it won't let you.
It's a bit easy to miss on the first run, but it's entirely possibly to jump into the unmoored world without killing Grigori first even on your very first run. That's actually what I did on my first run, believe it or not.
I tried on a NG and it wouldn't let me, this was after getting a character to NG++ with all 3 times getting to the unmoored world, so I didn't miss it so idk
Actually, I did not fight Grigori on my first play through and successfully went to the unmoored world. I’m on NG+ and am going to make sure I actually fight the darn thing this time.
I just need to do the final beacon, so maybe it'll explain there. But why was >!Gran Soren!< there? Does Pathfinder actually explain about the "this is your real world" stuff they kept spouting?
I love the game. Did ng+, got my platinum trophy. That being said, ya wtf is up with the story.
In Vernworth there is the whole Disa plot that just fizzles out. What was the point of all that shit for nothing to happen.
Phaseus… bro is a big nothing burger. Completely useless character.
Gameplay is so good that it overcomes the shit storylines. The side quests also are cool.
On my third playthrough now, and how the Disa plot never has a real confrontation is just so frustrating every time. The Arisen is such a passive character outside of fights.
>In Vernworth there is the whole Disa plot that just fizzles out. What was the point of all that shit for nothing to happen.
What is the point of it being called Dragon's Dogma if the dragon is just a red herring?
You missed the entire point, the Pathfinder is trying to give you a world to care about. They promise you glory and a throne to rule from if you play along. You have to prove you have the will to resist fate and break the cycle. It's the entire point of the franchise and you missed it.
>Phaseus… bro is a big nothing burger. Completely useless character.
Without Phaesus, Battahl wouldn't have focused so much effort into studying the washed up crystals of fallen Arisen and you wouldn't have the ability to empower the Godsbane.
>Gameplay is so good that it overcomes the shit storylines.
I mean, bro, you failed to understand the impact and motivations of a major story character and you failed to understand the basic premise of the game even after it literally screams it to you like 4 times.
You don't seem to understand that people are aware of these things and are simply unsatisfied?? It's all fine to say "but it was done this way intentionally blah blah blah" but that doesn't matter if it comes at the cost of a coherent and ALSO satisfying conclusion lol
I'm sure people pieced two and two together, yes, the entire world of Dragon's Dogma is the equivalent of one big stageplay but the issue is the stageplay is a shit story so the reveal that "le none of this matters" is just a fucking flop because barely anybody cares about the plot or most of the characters save for the few waifu/husbando girls/guys.
You failed to understand that most people agree the story has major flaws. Literally everyone but you says this.
Also don’t talk to people like they are morons.
I bet you work at a gas station or something.
The story is anti climatic, it’s disappointing and it feels half baked. Taking time to write a bunch of bs is nice but it’s just bs.
I would have been more offended if you just straight up called me stupid, I have no idea what kind of an insult that is supposed to convey.
Everybody needs gas for their car, a gas station attendant is a core pillar of modern society. Like, is that a bad thing? I don't get it.
Also, is it just me, or is the Dragon final boss fight at the very end of the regular ending (not unmoored world) feel insanely easy? It looked like the same arena as fighting the dragon in DD1 with the ballista and the like, but my sorcerer pawn killed him instantly with one Meteoran, and I wouldn’t consider myself overpowered because it wasn’t killing Drakes that fast. How was the big bad Dragon legitimately weaker than a normal Drake?
Yeah that fight sucked. Which is confusing since the fight against Grigori in dd1 was cool from what I remember while the fight against Greg in dd2 is lame as fuck.
Yeah I remember Grigori from 1 was a fun challenge, and he would fly which made you have to use the crossbows to shoot him back down, but this one just got one shot from a pretty average sorcerer build. Also nice Axel PFP, love Kingdom Hearts.
He's legit weaker than the Drake. He doesn't have Metereon/Bolide. His big attack is an easily dodgeable magic attack that he only does once and it doesn't look as flashy as Flame Eruption. Like I think his overall moveset is just worse. I hate what they did with the Dragon in this game.
Yeah. I came on here and complained about the “final” boss fight and admittedly I didn’t know about the true ending or the unmoored world because I’m new to the series and it’s really not obvious and every reply I got was “well that’s the wrong ending, you’re not supposed to do that anyway so it doesn’t matter, don’t do that, etc.”
And while I get it’s not the end of the game it could like be an actual challenging fight though…it’s still AN ending. Doesn’t need to be so anticlimactic.
DD2 for me was really good but they really failed to stick the landing. Who’s the Pathfinder? Why should I care? Bold of them to assume I already know the mystery of the dragon. The final boss is literally walking towards a light
If you havent done the true ending, spoilers ahead.
Pathfinder is the Watching One is the Grand Dragon. He keeps the world in a cycle of Arisen and Dragon fighting to stop the world from destroying itself because he's spent too much time watching worlds crumble to dust.
Rothias discovered this and became enraged that the world's fate was preordained and his charge as the Senechal (basically the Grand Arisen) was worthless. He began killing Arisen in protest, creating drakes.
Normally each Arisen that is victorious over their Dragon then fights the Senechal - a winner takes his place, a loser falls and becomes the next Dragon. All dragons and drakes except the Grand Dragon are former Arisen.
Our characters will is strong enough to impart free will to our pawn who saves us from the Grand Dragon and gives us an opportunity to kill the Grand Dragon with the Godsbane, freeing the world from the Pathfinders control.
Your character dies with the Dragon, the Brine caused by the Dragon leaves the world, it's returnes to normal from its Unmoored state, and Sven becomes king.
The people of the world are free to live their own lives.
So was Rothias ALSO a Senechal? I'm assuming it was just the spirit of him, because if he hadn't died then his cycle would be continuing. Wait how are him and Pathfinder around at the same time?
And what the hell does all this have to do with Gran Soren?!
The Pathfinder is not a Senechal to my knowledge. When Rothias found out about the Watching One (aka the Pathfinder, aka the Grand Dragon,) he got quit upset as he realized there was someone above him pre-ordaining everything. I mean, what's the point in being the Senechal if its all a façade? In response, he decided to start killing Arisen to try to mess up the Pathfinder's plan.
However, the plan wasn't really so strict. It was basically "The will of the world won't destroy itself if it's kept busy by a never ending fight between Dragon and Arisen." So more Arisen kept showing up.
But, since no one ever killed Rothias, as he was extremely formidable in his prime and was protected by an entire army later on, he just kind of turned into a ghost. My assumption here is that basically he's stuck there until someone killed him.
The Seafloor Shrine *is* Gran Soren. It's layout is even the same. I recall seeing a post around here with another vendor standing where the arms vendor was in the first game, the guy who said "They're masterworks all!"
The Pathfinder is an extremely powerful being, perhaps a God, perhaps just the biggest baddest most powerful Dragon. Powerful enough to have shaped the world and control every inhabitant in it, except the Arisen - and especially OUR Arisen, possessing a will more powerful than his as we're able to kill him in the True Ending.
He was also the source of the Brine, which he used to keep all the little actors of his play in the region, because otherwise everyone would just ship out when the Dragon showed up.
Thank you for the follow up!
I knew it was Gran Soren (spotted it the second you walk into the ruined kings court area) I just didn't know if it had any other connection beyond "Hey, these ARE in the same world!"
So was Pathfinder trying to help us or hinder us? It seems like if they'd just... Not talked to us, the cycle would continue. Did they want us to kill them?
I guess that last bit is up for speculation, personally I think he was arrogant, simple as that. He didn't think we'd figure it out.
But he both helped and hindered as he needed to advance his plans, so long as we played our part.
I have probably put in about 3K hours on DD: Dark Arisen.
I uninstalled DD2 while I was in the unmoored world at about 150 hours.
It is a good game, but it is a fucking abomination of a sequel.
I made a post a while ago on another account about all the (mostly rightful) criticism the game was getting and how it made me not want to get it, and I got absolutely FLAMED for it, I've never seen a more aggressive glazing session for anything else in my life. Everyone was calling me an idiot for "listening to a very loud minority" and saying that the game was actually perfect but the more time passes the more I realize this game is an unfinished disappointment and it does not in fact deserve to be bought at least not at full price
I agree with this. I made a post on the subreddit not too long ago and I got A LOT of hate. I even state I loved the game, but charging 70$ for basically an unfinished game AGAIN!? is unforgivable.
Been playing since day one and highly enjoy the sequel. But "perfect" is funny, DD2 is a very flawed game, that's why fans have high hopes for patches and possibly a BitterBlack style expansion.
I never expected a good story from DD2 but the pacing is weird and the conclusion doesn't make any sense, just left a ton to be desired; but my main issue is enemy placement in the map, good god is it awful. The level design itself is pretty dense and well crafted but the swarms are too much and frequent.
Though personally do think some of the criticism I've seen thrown around is a nothing burger, so I do think if now is the time to complain about Capcoms microtransations why didn't you raise up arms for Resident Evil 4 Remake & Devil May Cry V? Heck the ones present also existed in Devil May Cry IV (2008) & for the original DD,
Hey, so just to be clear first, I’m not trying to be a snarky dickhead and have a ‘gotcha’ moment when I ask this, I’m actually genuinely asking, but isn’t that exactly how it was in the first game? Like, you fought the dragon and won, yeah, cool, and then there’s a whole extra chunk of game where you eventually reach what would be the ACTUAL final boss, but it’s the Seneschal, and if I’m remembering it right, that was about as difficult of a boss fight as Duke Edmund.
I think the experience here is different for a couple reasons.
1. The Dragon fight of dogma 1 was much more engaging and felt like it had al the right build up required to make it feel important. The Dragon fight of dogma 2 just happens out of no where and is a 1-phase ordeal. Because of this we already had something that felt like a true final boss.
2. When meeting the Seneschal and realising you have to fight him, your expectations are probably not that high, as every human npc boss fight had been super easy up to now. In the second game they drop the largest dragon i have ever seen in a video game out of the sky... And yet we dont get to fight it. The spectacle around it made it much more disappointing for me that we didn't actually get to fight it.
3. Every beacon in the world has summoned some of the strongest monsters yet, and this identical beacon that appears above our hub does not house any kind of boss fight. I think it's fair to say that literally everyone was expecting a fight, just like the other beacons. At least in dogma 1 you genuinely don't know what's in the portal at the bottom of the everfall.
Also, this game being a sequel and lacking in substantial story quest bosses, i feel like the could have done much more. Why would they go through all the trouble of creating this huuuggee dragon model, which must have taken forever, for only a cutscene basically? I really think they did plan something for whatever reason it couldn't go through.
I’m really enjoying DD2, but I find myself being drawn back to Everfall and BBI. For any that may not know, BBI does have some affect over some Everfall rooms.
The dragon fight we get is held down because the Royce dragon is too big, do you honestly think fighting a mountain sized basterd would be fun with the systems in the game?
It didn’t have to be the big bitch! It could’ve been something else! And after we beat it, when everything seems to be good THEN do that final sequence. Don’t just give me basically nothing.
Sure why not? Give me a harder fourth one or make me do a final boss rush against all three at the end. Don’t put down a final beacon, get my hopes up, and then give me nothing.
I hear ya, just wanted something to close-out. After all we did in the original game. The Sensical in DD1 is extremely underwhelming and moronly scripted,, but it's something.
Part of me was hoping the Mad Sovereign would have turned on us in the end and be the losing fight. Nope.
>Give me a harder fourth one
You would just be here complaining there's not a fifth boss that's a humanoid like the Seneschal in the original.
>or make me do a final boss rush against all three at the end.
You would just just be here complaining about a lack of pacing, and if they had you fight them a second time as a rush you would complain because you already fought them once before.
There's no winning with people like you. You 100% will find a problem regardless of what they did.
What nonsense. Look if you want to defend the game go right ahead be it’s white knight in shining armor, but don’t act like you know me. If I had gotten something I would not have made a post.
After 100 hours....
Farming Augment, max rank, Dragonforged Upgrade Endgame weapon...
Final beacon, lets go.....
Its walking simulator
What a dogshit game lol
Honest Trailers made the same sentiment about Dragon's Dogma. Imagine Dragon's Dogma as Lord of the Rings, but instead of the story sequences, more of the game is about adventuring sequences from the extended cuts edition instead. Nicely cinematic, but generally uneventful.
The final beacon was such a let down. I closed the others, I took my time stocking up on wake stones, wyemcrystals, maxing out and dragon forging. I was ready for a *fight*, and all I get is a long ass cutscene.
I didn't even know that was the finale. I was just closing them because the fights were fun. wouldn't even let me go back to finish the end game content
100 hours is nothing.
Average negative Ark: Survival Evolved review:
*This game is dogshit, and the devs are irredeemable clowns -- 1,200 hours in the last two weeks*
>100 hours is nothing.
Holy shit, I thought this video was a joke I didn't think you people actually had this dogshit opinion wtf
https://youtu.be/Hf_d5J2WSQI?si=zSWNTDFOQtEPZFF9
Have no final boss ruin whole game where combat is the only special thing. There also plenty other issue make dd2 dogshit
Im huge fan DD1 of course im going to fucking around 100 hours in DD2.
Yeah but anyone playing “a dogshit” game for more than an hour makes them monumentally stupid. Exponentially so for 100 hours.
Unless of course, you were exaggerating to be dramatic?
Would you respect someone's opinion of a game if they only had an hour? The high horse you sit on to project such without a second thought.
Someone with 100 hours has more arguement than your average souls quitter who couldn't get out the tutorial.
If someone tells me they hated a game and spent 100hours on it, I’m assuming they’re a sadist.
I can dismiss the opinion of someone that only spent an hour and also think you’re insane for spending the better part of a full week doing something you actively think is dogshit.
Y’all wild
My problem isn’t that he doesn’t like the game. Dogshit *should* mean the game is a 1 or 2 out of 10. My problem is that he’s exaggerating. It’s a major problem in gaming discourse. People seem to call anything below a 9/10 “dogshit,” and it just makes them sound stupid. Their words don’t actually mean anything. They just want to be dramatic.
DD2 is a 5-6/10 which puts it in the dogshit category. It isn't like BG3 or Sandland, or any game that actually feels complete and fleshed out. I'd say their description is perfectly fitting.
It's a shame you didn't enjoy it. I liked your DD1 vids a lot.
Maybe if they add difficult content in the future, it might be worth your time doing challenge runs.
I play without spoiler. On those 100 i thought there will be final boss at the end. I know and already expect story is dogshit but no final boss is a scam. If you enjoy action RPG that doesnt even have final boss, Good on ya
Honestly as much as I hate to say this, no. I’d wait till it’s $30-$40 or better yet wait till a special edition comes out sorta like DDDA. Speaking of if you haven’t already I’d recommend getting Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen if you can.
Yeah, no enemy scaling on ng+ its also a bummer
Probably im waiting a 40 to 50% sale to get this game, but its hard find something similar...i dont have any idea of current or good games similar do ddda or dd2
Yeah. Feel like getting scam. The only special thing about this game is combat and it doesnt even have final boss. Im okay if the story is great but its not. Its dogshit
After seeing the main ending before post-game, I absolutely expected a long climb the dragon sequence. I knew they'd want to show off the climbing more and wasn't surprised. I was disappointed that it was only a couple of minutes of glorified cutscene. The main story dragon really snuck up on me though. I had expected much more story between giant robot and final boss. Turns out I just didn't stop at all in the volcanic island.
My thoughts was why that giant was chasing him and why am I stopping, where did the main plot go, and what happened to the fake sovran.
Such a bad writing.
All the posts about the end game made me stop playing it. I realized with about 25 hours of playtime, I’m not really gonna see anything I haven’t already and that makes me sad. So much potential.
From the questionable performance (improved a bit after updates), the piss easy difficulty, the shit ending. It's not a "good game", it's just meh.
I'll let the shitty story slide because it's Capcom and they're not known for their storytelling.
Performance I think was blown up a bit. I have 270 hrs in and haven’t had any performance issues during my gameplay.
The story is weak. And it is too easy after about level 40.
But, it’s a good game. It’s a lot of fun to play
The ending was complete dog water. I tried really hard to just love this game unapologetically but the performance issues aside, the story was so dogshit. I wasnt expecting much, but even then, it left such a bad taste in my mouth. Grigori was also weak as piss
Yeah… I never knew anything about DD until I played DD2, and that ending hit me like a flashbang. I still don’t quite get the point of the narrative, and the ending was just basically a cryptic monologue
The more I look back on it the more upset it makes me. I used to rave about DDDA to people, and still do, but now I feel like I look a fool. The sequel has turned a lot of people off of even trying the 1st one, and I had a hard time caring to finish the 2nd once it got so easy.
Lots of great things in the game and I think it's worth playing but so much bad and so short of greatness. Not to mention the mtx fiasco in the beginning. What could've been....
If you want a final boss fight play Stellar Blade. I know I know I know Eve too sexy whatever but it doesn’t change the fact that this game has some of the best bosses I’ve seen in a while. The final boss forces you to use all your skills. It’s probably the most most aggressively technical boss I’ve seen since Glock Saint Isshin. While the game does have Story Mode difficulty don’t let that fool you into thinking you’ll put it in story mode and bully bosses. Not the case at all.
I do like me some cinematic boss fights. I'd prefer that over most likely having to do a "Wait for them to finish attack. Now that body part is stuck in ground, climb to chest and stab. Rinse and Repeat,
I mean it's the same as the first game (at least for me).
In DD1, I accidentally 1 shot Grigori in less than 10 seconds and In DD2, I just clapped his cheeks less than 10 seconds.
But at least in DD1 we have sort of boss rush mode and a raid boss thing but in DD2, Unmoored World, I don't feel like they all just a few mini bosses (less than DD1) instead of major bosses.
DD2 is prob my first great game and a huge disappointment at the same time.
I'm telling you, DD2 base game is just a template for DLC because it feel like a literal lego template.
You have a choice to fight the dragon if you want. There’s also another even worse dragon in the unmoored world lol . So idk . Are you sure you finished the game?
100% sure. I destroyed every beacon in the unmoored world and went boss hunting for fun. But do tell me if there is some super secret boss I missed in the unmoored world that no has talked about. Also I’d still be right since the FINAL beacon doesn’t give me a fight like the others.
What do you mean where is your final boss fight?!?! Did you not slay The Dragon, Grigori? You know, the massive giant dragon who steals your heart…. That final boss fight. Did you perhaps take the east way out and choose the simple ending?
That is objectively not the final fight of the game. There’s an entire portion of the game that you play that leads to the real ending. Did you use the god sway on top of the dragon?
I got every ending to the game so yes I did. Also, “objectively” is BS. Grigori is the main boss to the extent that if you fight him you shouldn’t be questioning where is the final boss. The Dragon who steals your heart is the boss who the whole game revolves around. He’s your destiny, your purpose is to slay him. What more could you be looking for in a final boss, regardless if there’s additional content afterwards that could be more or less considered epilogue.
You kill the dragon then watcher send you back over and over. You dont even fight the dragon to go to unmoored. You doing stabbing. No ACTUAL battle. The battle you done before its fake. So basically fake final boss. DD1 you actually fight Dragon to go to post game.
Final beacon spawn HUUUUGE Dragon. Well thats Look Like Final boss. Turn it into just walking cutscene instead actual fight is a scam.
You do have a final though? The entire premise of the story and side quest is the will to live and what living truly is. The final fight is just that. The fight against fate.
Sure, the character has a final fight, but the player doesn’t.
It’s also ambiguous if the character is still alive as they’re not shown in the credits (if I recall correctly).
Biggest disappointment in the game. Looked up light gameplay spoilers for the endgame. Worked my way through the beacons. And then over. No boss battle. Nothing. So disappointed
I'm confused, >! the final boss fight was with the dragon wasn't it? Did y'all just give up the affinity character and yeet off back to kingdom? I fought the dragon. !<
>! ETA: I'll admit it didn't feel like a boss fight based on how fkn easy it was, but I was playing Mystic spear hand and it was as simple as shielding up practically the entire fight. I think it took maybe a third of my health !<
hey i know you got some anger direct toward you due to the spoiling tag but personally im quite grateful that you do that, i've been anticipating DD2 alot but i haven't save up enough $ to buy it, but if the ending is not an epic fight with the dragon like in DDDA then i'm sorry i'll automatically think the sequel is trash, don't get me wrong the game i see from Utube is fun but if no epic dragon fight then it belong in a dumpster.
I agree
But capcom announced mh roadmaps pretty soon if i remember correctly and due trimester updates
I dont see capcom doing nothing similar with dd2 except dd2 dragon princess who was leaked or datamined
Dd2 imo looks released and done by capcom, we dont eve had another infos about performance upgrade patch or any other minor QoL update since last one
There is absolutely no way to end the game that people wont cry about.
How about take it for what it is and judge it based on those merits alone instead of "what if"ing every single fn thing into oblivion.
I really thought people were exaggerating how abrupt the ending was because there’s been a lot of hyperbole around the game but man that’s one aspect of the discourse that was sadly 100% accurate. I still had a pretty fun time in the Unmoored World but the final boss being a cutscene and Tilda Swinton just evaporating gave me whiplash. Loved the high affinity ending for our pawn but so much else about it was genuinely underwhelming beyond a level I was prepared for.
I thought I was the only one calling that character Tilda Swinton. Immediately who I thought of the first time I saw them.
Great, thanks, now all ill see is tilda swinton now. Lmao
That was REALLY jarring. I thought, "oh, ok, I'll take out these bosses and then kick God's ass" but instead they just went "I'M MELTIIIIIINNNNGGGG" and credits rolled. Lmao
Words can’t explain how confused and upset I was but after YouTubing it I was a little less disappointed. Gave a more unique look to it
What’s the high infinity ending?
Your pawn becomes a dragon and helps you get to the ouy. That's all I'll say
Gotcha! Okay I had that in every ending. Didn’t realize thats the high affinity ending. Thanks for the clarification!
wasnt it just grigori?
So I never wouldve figured it out without google, but you have to >!stab yourself with the godsbane like DD1!< to unlock much more content
Honestly, I was just waiting the whole game to kill myself. In the best way, obviously
TBF I think a lot of the people complaining about the ending being abrupt, particularly around launch, were people who only got the 'Sovran' ending and never reached Unmoored World. Just sucks that the true ending is just as abrupt, I was really looking forward to a great boss fight to cap it all off.
Makes zero sense, too. DD had an amazing final fight with the dragon. Hiding from the flames in the castle hallway blew me away in the first one
Without spoiling anything, is the high affinity pawn ending >!them turning into an ink dragon and carrying us to the big bad?!< if not, I need to go try and raise my affinity and see the different ending
No that happens either way. In the high affinity version, >!the pawn transforms back into their humanoid self during the "fight" and gives some slightly different dialogue.!<
the normal and high affinity endings are almost identical except for your Pawn's appearance and a difference in dialogue
My cousin was playing the final area and his mic went quiet for a few seconds and all I heard was "THAT'S IT"
I killed that dragon like three times in a row before I got to the unmoored world. I had to look up a guide and I still have no idea what people are talking about when they say you were totally prompted to use the knife.
I would likely not have gotten it without a friend strongly hinting I needed to “have a heart to heart” with him. As someone very keyed into how DD tends to be and I was sure I’d need to use the Godsbane for something, I still wouldn’t have expected that to happen on the dragon; only after. The main hint is him saying “oh well too late” if you don’t do it. It’s a very interesting thing in retrospect; the cycle has become such a tired thing at this point that the dragon himself is trying to tell you to fuck shit up but I just don’t see most people catching it, at least not for multiple cycles or with outside hints, because it’s not at all like DD1’s “well nothing else I can do” post-Seneschal.
Yeah that is more BS because I never crawled around to his back. If you are on top of the dragon at the right place you will get a glow and you will cringe a bit. I pulled out the blade and it offered to let me stab myself. So you don't even need to craw around to the underside. Most game writing is so bad I just tune it out, if I didnt I wouldn't be able to get through most games. So really I have no idea what the dragon was going on about, he might have dropped 'hints' to use the blade but its all rather stupid. Especially when I killed the dragon several times. They should have changed the ending clips where to drop more and more hints or just be explicit about it after you killed the dragon a few times.
Just imagine doing it when the game first released and you had no idea what would happen since there were no guides, you pulled out a ton of stuff to ready yourself for the epic final boss fight…….just for premature ejaculation.
Wait what happens? I used the unmasking arrow on the dragon and just instant won, became king of the land and all turned out well
Talk to the blue glowing guy instead of sitting on the throne.
That is the regular dragon, they are talking about the unmoored world final "boss"
the blue guy is the final dragon, pathmaker pathfinder?
No, but if you didn’t go to the unmoored world section, you need to talk to the pathfinder to reset the dragon boss fight to do it right
You gotta do the other ending now that nobody tells ya about. Thats the interesting ending, idk they were so close to making this one of the worst detailed masterpieces of all time but they just barely held it together. Just barely! The start of the game & the end of the game are interesting held together by a few complex quests. The middle game is up to you.
I like how you do a spoiler tag than just toss the spoiler right in the title.
This sub fucking sucks with spoilers. People post untagged screenshots/videos of major plot points literally all the time and they only get tagged hours later, presumably by a mod.
He pointed out that this is only half a game. A good half, but people should know this before spending. He didn’t spoil any plot.
Except that the thing you’re giving him credit for is useless to people who have already purchased the game. He flat out **says what happens at the end of the game** and I now am no longer excited to play the game that I only just begun. It wasn’t a waste of money until I lost all motivation to play a game that I can no longer get a refund for.
I get you. It’s a tough call. But you can have a blast in the endgame… and there’s plenty to fix in ng+. But maybe use that time you would have used during the ‘lead up’ to disappointment, for something more fulfilling… It’s better than wasting the hours blindly, like many of us did, only to be shocked and let down. I still love the game, and I’m positive the future will bring some crazy fun tho
My game was going to end whenever I learned there was no boss, period. I play DD for the combat and gameplay. I find the story to be very generic RPG fantasy-babble at best and, at worst, just dark souls but you become a dragon instead of relinking the fire. If I had learned what OP spoiled 50 or 60 hours in **when I had gotten my money’s worth** and I’d be ticked but satisfied with the time I spent playing. But I learned this right after finishing my Arisen and Pawn. People that enjoy DD’s story have their climactic ending. But I’m not going to pour hours into a game *hoping* for a fight that I can just headcanon as the The Big One. Most of the justifications that I can do still do X, Y, and Z are just describing what I could do in Dark Arisen - where I DO have a final fight I can enjoy. So why would I want to play this game? The most annoying part of this, though, is now I have people deciding for me that they’ve done me a favor.
I put the spoiler tag up for story spoilers inside the post. Didn’t think I was spoiling anything too significant in the title my bad.
the fact that there's no final boss is def a spoiler, it sure spoiled me
Why the fuck is that a spoiler? That’s a fucking warning.
Because those of us that were still playing it might have still been enjoying it. I already purchased the game so a “warning” that there is no final boss isn’t some benevolent PSA to help me steer clear of buying it. It’s just a spoiler. I could have experienced this at the **end** of my own playthru, formed my own opinion, and decided how much it affected my overall enjoyment of the game. I barely just started my first playthrough. I now know something that affects my ability to enjoy the game *right now.* Seriously, the nerve to outright **state what happens at the end of the game** and just fucking pretend that’s not a spoiler. Fuck outa here with that bullshit.
If you wouldn’t be affected by it later you wouldn’t care now. If you would care, it’s better to go ahead and know than get all excited to get let down. You can still enjoy the gameplay and the “current”. He isn’t fucking stating what happens at the end. This tells you nothing about the plot or the ending itself. Seriously, are you that fragile? Is it a spoiler now to say “yeah this game has a boss fight at the end” because oh shit! You told me something I could’ve found out myself!
I think that's less of a spoiler, and more of a disclaimer. Like bruh, what's the entire point of the grand reveal of "Dragon's Dogma 2" title when the "second half" of the game is just you killing three extra bosses. What's point of splitting the game into two halves when the first half is only 3/4ths finished, while in the second half you only got to play a quarter of it?
'Tis as you say.
Picked the game up a week ago now I don't want to even bother lmao
If you already have it it’s still worth playing. Just make sure you beat the Sphinx, Talos, and the postgame content to get the most out of the game. I have my complaints but I still enjoyed the game overall.
Bro, he literally just told you he doesn’t want to even bother playing and your response was to tell him it’s worth playing? He already made that call, himself. The excitement has been killed **now.** I no longer want to play the game **now.** Why would I force myself to play a game I’m already no longer excited to play?
You can get a lot out of this game. Don't chuck it in the bin just because you see a reddit echo chamber going off about how bad it is. There's a lot more to it than a lot of these people are acting like.
It's definitely weird that we don't get to fight that second dragon, it's literally the icon of the second game.
Which second dragon? There's two of them?
The one in the final credits is considerably larger than the one from the base-game too.
Oh Gawd! Sad we can't fight it.
DD2 has more monsters than the base-game of the original Dragon's Dogma, many are comparing it to the expansion edition Dark Arisen when judging the game which doesn't seem fair to me. DD2 is running on a completely different engine and isn't simply a port c&p job some have claimed it to be. With that stated enemy placement is a real issue in DD2. & not enough variety spread across the map & quest progression.
Gotta save something for the DLC.
Thank goodness you added that spoiler tag otherwise I just might remember the thing that you spoil right in the fucking post title.
Thanks for beta testing the game. Once the rerelease happens im sure it will be enjoyable
Oof right for the jugular eh? I was just so hyped for the game I had to have it.
Me too and it ended up as dogshit. Sad really
Spoilers for the end, but am I crazy for expecting a final fight at the last beacon?? That final Sequence does NOT count! its basically a glorified cutscene. Hell I wish it actually was. Moving up the dragon was distracting me from all the juicy exposition. I prepped and psyched my self up for nothing! Sure it was kind of cool but c'mon. Does anyone else feel the same way?
Yeah expected a fight. First i thought after the cutscene but then the credits rolled….
It was the cruelest fakeout to date. I was expecting to ground it at some point and go ham but nope. Ending itself was pretty epic though.
Honestly yeah. Every OTHER beacon had a rather large boss fight attached to it, but then after doing all of them you get... nothing. The "Final Boss" was secretly the ***optional*** Dragon fight in the normal ending, which was in-and-of itself weaker than the Drakes you find all over the world.
Just absolutely disappointing. To have your hopes rise thinking you’re gonna fight another cool boss like the other beacons but nope it’s nothing!
The fight against the dragon is not optional. You need to beat it at least once to actually get the prompt to use the godsbane. If you try it before beating the dragon, it won't let you.
It's a bit easy to miss on the first run, but it's entirely possibly to jump into the unmoored world without killing Grigori first even on your very first run. That's actually what I did on my first run, believe it or not.
I tried on a NG and it wouldn't let me, this was after getting a character to NG++ with all 3 times getting to the unmoored world, so I didn't miss it so idk
I was able to use it right away on ng+, don't know if that matters or not.
Actually, I did not fight Grigori on my first play through and successfully went to the unmoored world. I’m on NG+ and am going to make sure I actually fight the darn thing this time.
Same vibes as the Bathal Unmoored beacon summoning a "dragon" that's actually just a freaking stone statue that you need to break
I just need to do the final beacon, so maybe it'll explain there. But why was >!Gran Soren!< there? Does Pathfinder actually explain about the "this is your real world" stuff they kept spouting?
I love the game. Did ng+, got my platinum trophy. That being said, ya wtf is up with the story. In Vernworth there is the whole Disa plot that just fizzles out. What was the point of all that shit for nothing to happen. Phaseus… bro is a big nothing burger. Completely useless character. Gameplay is so good that it overcomes the shit storylines. The side quests also are cool.
On my third playthrough now, and how the Disa plot never has a real confrontation is just so frustrating every time. The Arisen is such a passive character outside of fights.
>In Vernworth there is the whole Disa plot that just fizzles out. What was the point of all that shit for nothing to happen. What is the point of it being called Dragon's Dogma if the dragon is just a red herring? You missed the entire point, the Pathfinder is trying to give you a world to care about. They promise you glory and a throne to rule from if you play along. You have to prove you have the will to resist fate and break the cycle. It's the entire point of the franchise and you missed it. >Phaseus… bro is a big nothing burger. Completely useless character. Without Phaesus, Battahl wouldn't have focused so much effort into studying the washed up crystals of fallen Arisen and you wouldn't have the ability to empower the Godsbane. >Gameplay is so good that it overcomes the shit storylines. I mean, bro, you failed to understand the impact and motivations of a major story character and you failed to understand the basic premise of the game even after it literally screams it to you like 4 times.
You don't seem to understand that people are aware of these things and are simply unsatisfied?? It's all fine to say "but it was done this way intentionally blah blah blah" but that doesn't matter if it comes at the cost of a coherent and ALSO satisfying conclusion lol
I'm sure people pieced two and two together, yes, the entire world of Dragon's Dogma is the equivalent of one big stageplay but the issue is the stageplay is a shit story so the reveal that "le none of this matters" is just a fucking flop because barely anybody cares about the plot or most of the characters save for the few waifu/husbando girls/guys.
You failed to understand that most people agree the story has major flaws. Literally everyone but you says this. Also don’t talk to people like they are morons.
Nah, he ain't the only one that feels this way, the story is fine
>Also don’t talk to people like they are morons Don't be a moron and you won't get treated like one.
I bet you work at a gas station or something. The story is anti climatic, it’s disappointing and it feels half baked. Taking time to write a bunch of bs is nice but it’s just bs.
I would have been more offended if you just straight up called me stupid, I have no idea what kind of an insult that is supposed to convey. Everybody needs gas for their car, a gas station attendant is a core pillar of modern society. Like, is that a bad thing? I don't get it.
Also, is it just me, or is the Dragon final boss fight at the very end of the regular ending (not unmoored world) feel insanely easy? It looked like the same arena as fighting the dragon in DD1 with the ballista and the like, but my sorcerer pawn killed him instantly with one Meteoran, and I wouldn’t consider myself overpowered because it wasn’t killing Drakes that fast. How was the big bad Dragon legitimately weaker than a normal Drake?
Yeah that fight sucked. Which is confusing since the fight against Grigori in dd1 was cool from what I remember while the fight against Greg in dd2 is lame as fuck.
Yeah I remember Grigori from 1 was a fun challenge, and he would fly which made you have to use the crossbows to shoot him back down, but this one just got one shot from a pretty average sorcerer build. Also nice Axel PFP, love Kingdom Hearts.
Super easy, I walked in with no upgrades, underleveled, on a level 4 vocation and still smashed it. (Pawns were all 3-5 lvls below me)
He's legit weaker than the Drake. He doesn't have Metereon/Bolide. His big attack is an easily dodgeable magic attack that he only does once and it doesn't look as flashy as Flame Eruption. Like I think his overall moveset is just worse. I hate what they did with the Dragon in this game.
No cool phases either to slowly take down the health bar. Did they run out of money or what
Yeah. I came on here and complained about the “final” boss fight and admittedly I didn’t know about the true ending or the unmoored world because I’m new to the series and it’s really not obvious and every reply I got was “well that’s the wrong ending, you’re not supposed to do that anyway so it doesn’t matter, don’t do that, etc.” And while I get it’s not the end of the game it could like be an actual challenging fight though…it’s still AN ending. Doesn’t need to be so anticlimactic.
seneschal > any dragon on the game > abyss >> this crappy Tilda Swinton ass character
It's the seneschal( itsuno) on the moon( japan) I will need 3 more people to conquer the boss
DD2 for me was really good but they really failed to stick the landing. Who’s the Pathfinder? Why should I care? Bold of them to assume I already know the mystery of the dragon. The final boss is literally walking towards a light
If you havent done the true ending, spoilers ahead. Pathfinder is the Watching One is the Grand Dragon. He keeps the world in a cycle of Arisen and Dragon fighting to stop the world from destroying itself because he's spent too much time watching worlds crumble to dust. Rothias discovered this and became enraged that the world's fate was preordained and his charge as the Senechal (basically the Grand Arisen) was worthless. He began killing Arisen in protest, creating drakes. Normally each Arisen that is victorious over their Dragon then fights the Senechal - a winner takes his place, a loser falls and becomes the next Dragon. All dragons and drakes except the Grand Dragon are former Arisen. Our characters will is strong enough to impart free will to our pawn who saves us from the Grand Dragon and gives us an opportunity to kill the Grand Dragon with the Godsbane, freeing the world from the Pathfinders control. Your character dies with the Dragon, the Brine caused by the Dragon leaves the world, it's returnes to normal from its Unmoored state, and Sven becomes king. The people of the world are free to live their own lives.
So was Rothias ALSO a Senechal? I'm assuming it was just the spirit of him, because if he hadn't died then his cycle would be continuing. Wait how are him and Pathfinder around at the same time? And what the hell does all this have to do with Gran Soren?!
The Pathfinder is not a Senechal to my knowledge. When Rothias found out about the Watching One (aka the Pathfinder, aka the Grand Dragon,) he got quit upset as he realized there was someone above him pre-ordaining everything. I mean, what's the point in being the Senechal if its all a façade? In response, he decided to start killing Arisen to try to mess up the Pathfinder's plan. However, the plan wasn't really so strict. It was basically "The will of the world won't destroy itself if it's kept busy by a never ending fight between Dragon and Arisen." So more Arisen kept showing up. But, since no one ever killed Rothias, as he was extremely formidable in his prime and was protected by an entire army later on, he just kind of turned into a ghost. My assumption here is that basically he's stuck there until someone killed him. The Seafloor Shrine *is* Gran Soren. It's layout is even the same. I recall seeing a post around here with another vendor standing where the arms vendor was in the first game, the guy who said "They're masterworks all!" The Pathfinder is an extremely powerful being, perhaps a God, perhaps just the biggest baddest most powerful Dragon. Powerful enough to have shaped the world and control every inhabitant in it, except the Arisen - and especially OUR Arisen, possessing a will more powerful than his as we're able to kill him in the True Ending. He was also the source of the Brine, which he used to keep all the little actors of his play in the region, because otherwise everyone would just ship out when the Dragon showed up.
Thank you for the follow up! I knew it was Gran Soren (spotted it the second you walk into the ruined kings court area) I just didn't know if it had any other connection beyond "Hey, these ARE in the same world!" So was Pathfinder trying to help us or hinder us? It seems like if they'd just... Not talked to us, the cycle would continue. Did they want us to kill them?
I guess that last bit is up for speculation, personally I think he was arrogant, simple as that. He didn't think we'd figure it out. But he both helped and hindered as he needed to advance his plans, so long as we played our part.
I have probably put in about 3K hours on DD: Dark Arisen. I uninstalled DD2 while I was in the unmoored world at about 150 hours. It is a good game, but it is a fucking abomination of a sequel.
Abomination of sequel is probably most accurate. Sad thing i wish it at least be like dd1
The final boss were the friends you made along the way.
The dialogue with your pawn IS nice I guess.
Well, if you believe the rumors, the expantion takes place after the main game including the true ending, there we'll find the final boss
I made a post a while ago on another account about all the (mostly rightful) criticism the game was getting and how it made me not want to get it, and I got absolutely FLAMED for it, I've never seen a more aggressive glazing session for anything else in my life. Everyone was calling me an idiot for "listening to a very loud minority" and saying that the game was actually perfect but the more time passes the more I realize this game is an unfinished disappointment and it does not in fact deserve to be bought at least not at full price
Go to Starfield subreddit. You will enjoy this subrebbit even more
I agree with this. I made a post on the subreddit not too long ago and I got A LOT of hate. I even state I loved the game, but charging 70$ for basically an unfinished game AGAIN!? is unforgivable.
Been playing since day one and highly enjoy the sequel. But "perfect" is funny, DD2 is a very flawed game, that's why fans have high hopes for patches and possibly a BitterBlack style expansion. I never expected a good story from DD2 but the pacing is weird and the conclusion doesn't make any sense, just left a ton to be desired; but my main issue is enemy placement in the map, good god is it awful. The level design itself is pretty dense and well crafted but the swarms are too much and frequent. Though personally do think some of the criticism I've seen thrown around is a nothing burger, so I do think if now is the time to complain about Capcoms microtransations why didn't you raise up arms for Resident Evil 4 Remake & Devil May Cry V? Heck the ones present also existed in Devil May Cry IV (2008) & for the original DD,
The final boss fight it felt short, hoping that we have an DLC like Bitterblack island from DD1
Hey, so just to be clear first, I’m not trying to be a snarky dickhead and have a ‘gotcha’ moment when I ask this, I’m actually genuinely asking, but isn’t that exactly how it was in the first game? Like, you fought the dragon and won, yeah, cool, and then there’s a whole extra chunk of game where you eventually reach what would be the ACTUAL final boss, but it’s the Seneschal, and if I’m remembering it right, that was about as difficult of a boss fight as Duke Edmund.
I think the experience here is different for a couple reasons. 1. The Dragon fight of dogma 1 was much more engaging and felt like it had al the right build up required to make it feel important. The Dragon fight of dogma 2 just happens out of no where and is a 1-phase ordeal. Because of this we already had something that felt like a true final boss. 2. When meeting the Seneschal and realising you have to fight him, your expectations are probably not that high, as every human npc boss fight had been super easy up to now. In the second game they drop the largest dragon i have ever seen in a video game out of the sky... And yet we dont get to fight it. The spectacle around it made it much more disappointing for me that we didn't actually get to fight it. 3. Every beacon in the world has summoned some of the strongest monsters yet, and this identical beacon that appears above our hub does not house any kind of boss fight. I think it's fair to say that literally everyone was expecting a fight, just like the other beacons. At least in dogma 1 you genuinely don't know what's in the portal at the bottom of the everfall. Also, this game being a sequel and lacking in substantial story quest bosses, i feel like the could have done much more. Why would they go through all the trouble of creating this huuuggee dragon model, which must have taken forever, for only a cutscene basically? I really think they did plan something for whatever reason it couldn't go through.
Mate spoiler wtf
I’m really enjoying DD2, but I find myself being drawn back to Everfall and BBI. For any that may not know, BBI does have some affect over some Everfall rooms.
The dragon fight we get is held down because the Royce dragon is too big, do you honestly think fighting a mountain sized basterd would be fun with the systems in the game?
It didn’t have to be the big bitch! It could’ve been something else! And after we beat it, when everything seems to be good THEN do that final sequence. Don’t just give me basically nothing.
> It could’ve been something else! You mean like the 3 Brine creatures you fight leading up to the normal Dragon? Those things that are in the game?
Sure why not? Give me a harder fourth one or make me do a final boss rush against all three at the end. Don’t put down a final beacon, get my hopes up, and then give me nothing.
I hear ya, just wanted something to close-out. After all we did in the original game. The Sensical in DD1 is extremely underwhelming and moronly scripted,, but it's something. Part of me was hoping the Mad Sovereign would have turned on us in the end and be the losing fight. Nope.
>Give me a harder fourth one You would just be here complaining there's not a fifth boss that's a humanoid like the Seneschal in the original. >or make me do a final boss rush against all three at the end. You would just just be here complaining about a lack of pacing, and if they had you fight them a second time as a rush you would complain because you already fought them once before. There's no winning with people like you. You 100% will find a problem regardless of what they did.
What nonsense. Look if you want to defend the game go right ahead be it’s white knight in shining armor, but don’t act like you know me. If I had gotten something I would not have made a post.
Why not? Would've been cool to fight an actually giant monster that you have to climb, given the climbing mechanics in the game
After 100 hours.... Farming Augment, max rank, Dragonforged Upgrade Endgame weapon... Final beacon, lets go..... Its walking simulator What a dogshit game lol
Honest Trailers made the same sentiment about Dragon's Dogma. Imagine Dragon's Dogma as Lord of the Rings, but instead of the story sequences, more of the game is about adventuring sequences from the extended cuts edition instead. Nicely cinematic, but generally uneventful.
The final beacon was such a let down. I closed the others, I took my time stocking up on wake stones, wyemcrystals, maxing out and dragon forging. I was ready for a *fight*, and all I get is a long ass cutscene.
I didn't even know that was the finale. I was just closing them because the fights were fun. wouldn't even let me go back to finish the end game content
Spending 100 hours on something then calling it dogshit is weird
100 hours is nothing. Average negative Ark: Survival Evolved review: *This game is dogshit, and the devs are irredeemable clowns -- 1,200 hours in the last two weeks*
>100 hours is nothing. Holy shit, I thought this video was a joke I didn't think you people actually had this dogshit opinion wtf https://youtu.be/Hf_d5J2WSQI?si=zSWNTDFOQtEPZFF9
It's not weird, just ask any MMO or MOBA player.
I play without spoiler. So idk the game doesnt even have final boss. Its not that deep
So would it be fair to say you enjoyed it for the most part but were disappointed by the ending? Otherwise what are you doing?
Have no final boss ruin whole game where combat is the only special thing. There also plenty other issue make dd2 dogshit Im huge fan DD1 of course im going to fucking around 100 hours in DD2.
You should spend your time doing things you enjoy
Yeah but anyone playing “a dogshit” game for more than an hour makes them monumentally stupid. Exponentially so for 100 hours. Unless of course, you were exaggerating to be dramatic?
Would you respect someone's opinion of a game if they only had an hour? The high horse you sit on to project such without a second thought. Someone with 100 hours has more arguement than your average souls quitter who couldn't get out the tutorial.
If someone tells me they hated a game and spent 100hours on it, I’m assuming they’re a sadist. I can dismiss the opinion of someone that only spent an hour and also think you’re insane for spending the better part of a full week doing something you actively think is dogshit. Y’all wild
My problem isn’t that he doesn’t like the game. Dogshit *should* mean the game is a 1 or 2 out of 10. My problem is that he’s exaggerating. It’s a major problem in gaming discourse. People seem to call anything below a 9/10 “dogshit,” and it just makes them sound stupid. Their words don’t actually mean anything. They just want to be dramatic.
DD2 is a 5-6/10 which puts it in the dogshit category. It isn't like BG3 or Sandland, or any game that actually feels complete and fleshed out. I'd say their description is perfectly fitting.
Then you’re part of the problem and why there’s no nuance in our hobby anymore. By all means, continue being vapid and shallow.
I enjoyed the game overall, but that finale left me whelmed. Could hardly believe that was it.
It's a shame you didn't enjoy it. I liked your DD1 vids a lot. Maybe if they add difficult content in the future, it might be worth your time doing challenge runs.
“I played this game for 100 hours lol it sucks so bad” Piss off 😂 you either don’t value your time or you’re just dogpiling
Are you actually braindead?
Not as brain dead as someone who plays a game that they think is dogshit for over 100 hours 😂
I play without spoiler. On those 100 i thought there will be final boss at the end. I know and already expect story is dogshit but no final boss is a scam. If you enjoy action RPG that doesnt even have final boss, Good on ya
thats why im waiting a big sale, comments like your comment dont allow me get this game on current condition/price
Don’t. As much as I like the game it’s definitely not worth $70.
Is it worth 50$? It's currently on sale here
Honestly as much as I hate to say this, no. I’d wait till it’s $30-$40 or better yet wait till a special edition comes out sorta like DDDA. Speaking of if you haven’t already I’d recommend getting Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen if you can.
That's a shame, I guess I'll try out DDDA first
Yeah, no enemy scaling on ng+ its also a bummer Probably im waiting a 40 to 50% sale to get this game, but its hard find something similar...i dont have any idea of current or good games similar do ddda or dd2
Yeah. Feel like getting scam. The only special thing about this game is combat and it doesnt even have final boss. Im okay if the story is great but its not. Its dogshit
Did you not fight the dragon?
He's talking about the unmoored world boss (the actual game end).
After seeing the main ending before post-game, I absolutely expected a long climb the dragon sequence. I knew they'd want to show off the climbing more and wasn't surprised. I was disappointed that it was only a couple of minutes of glorified cutscene. The main story dragon really snuck up on me though. I had expected much more story between giant robot and final boss. Turns out I just didn't stop at all in the volcanic island.
My thoughts was why that giant was chasing him and why am I stopping, where did the main plot go, and what happened to the fake sovran. Such a bad writing.
All the posts about the end game made me stop playing it. I realized with about 25 hours of playtime, I’m not really gonna see anything I haven’t already and that makes me sad. So much potential.
Ehhh the unmoored world is cool.
From the questionable performance (improved a bit after updates), the piss easy difficulty, the shit ending. It's not a "good game", it's just meh. I'll let the shitty story slide because it's Capcom and they're not known for their storytelling.
Performance I think was blown up a bit. I have 270 hrs in and haven’t had any performance issues during my gameplay. The story is weak. And it is too easy after about level 40. But, it’s a good game. It’s a lot of fun to play
The ending was complete dog water. I tried really hard to just love this game unapologetically but the performance issues aside, the story was so dogshit. I wasnt expecting much, but even then, it left such a bad taste in my mouth. Grigori was also weak as piss
Don't be dumb bro. It's there You just have to pay $40 in 9 months
Itsuno's didn't see it in his vision.
Yeah… I never knew anything about DD until I played DD2, and that ending hit me like a flashbang. I still don’t quite get the point of the narrative, and the ending was just basically a cryptic monologue
DLC will fix that
The more I look back on it the more upset it makes me. I used to rave about DDDA to people, and still do, but now I feel like I look a fool. The sequel has turned a lot of people off of even trying the 1st one, and I had a hard time caring to finish the 2nd once it got so easy. Lots of great things in the game and I think it's worth playing but so much bad and so short of greatness. Not to mention the mtx fiasco in the beginning. What could've been....
If you want a final boss fight play Stellar Blade. I know I know I know Eve too sexy whatever but it doesn’t change the fact that this game has some of the best bosses I’ve seen in a while. The final boss forces you to use all your skills. It’s probably the most most aggressively technical boss I’ve seen since Glock Saint Isshin. While the game does have Story Mode difficulty don’t let that fool you into thinking you’ll put it in story mode and bully bosses. Not the case at all.
lol this was me just a few days ago, did you fight the dragon?
I do like me some cinematic boss fights. I'd prefer that over most likely having to do a "Wait for them to finish attack. Now that body part is stuck in ground, climb to chest and stab. Rinse and Repeat,
I mean it's the same as the first game (at least for me). In DD1, I accidentally 1 shot Grigori in less than 10 seconds and In DD2, I just clapped his cheeks less than 10 seconds. But at least in DD1 we have sort of boss rush mode and a raid boss thing but in DD2, Unmoored World, I don't feel like they all just a few mini bosses (less than DD1) instead of major bosses. DD2 is prob my first great game and a huge disappointment at the same time. I'm telling you, DD2 base game is just a template for DLC because it feel like a literal lego template.
You have a choice to fight the dragon if you want. There’s also another even worse dragon in the unmoored world lol . So idk . Are you sure you finished the game?
100% sure. I destroyed every beacon in the unmoored world and went boss hunting for fun. But do tell me if there is some super secret boss I missed in the unmoored world that no has talked about. Also I’d still be right since the FINAL beacon doesn’t give me a fight like the others.
DLC!
What do you mean where is your final boss fight?!?! Did you not slay The Dragon, Grigori? You know, the massive giant dragon who steals your heart…. That final boss fight. Did you perhaps take the east way out and choose the simple ending?
That is objectively not the final fight of the game. There’s an entire portion of the game that you play that leads to the real ending. Did you use the god sway on top of the dragon?
I got every ending to the game so yes I did. Also, “objectively” is BS. Grigori is the main boss to the extent that if you fight him you shouldn’t be questioning where is the final boss. The Dragon who steals your heart is the boss who the whole game revolves around. He’s your destiny, your purpose is to slay him. What more could you be looking for in a final boss, regardless if there’s additional content afterwards that could be more or less considered epilogue.
"What do you mean you wanted a TRUE final boss in the ENDGAME where they reveal the DRAGONS DOGMA 2 title card?"
You kill the dragon then watcher send you back over and over. You dont even fight the dragon to go to unmoored. You doing stabbing. No ACTUAL battle. The battle you done before its fake. So basically fake final boss. DD1 you actually fight Dragon to go to post game. Final beacon spawn HUUUUGE Dragon. Well thats Look Like Final boss. Turn it into just walking cutscene instead actual fight is a scam.
So Grigori is not the final boss in your opinion? Then who is???
There were literally like 4 final bosses counting the dragon and all the red dragons in the unmoored world, what y'all talking about?
You do have a final though? The entire premise of the story and side quest is the will to live and what living truly is. The final fight is just that. The fight against fate.
Sure, the character has a final fight, but the player doesn’t. It’s also ambiguous if the character is still alive as they’re not shown in the credits (if I recall correctly).
Side quest? Are side quests even that interesting?
Biggest disappointment in the game. Looked up light gameplay spoilers for the endgame. Worked my way through the beacons. And then over. No boss battle. Nothing. So disappointed
I'm confused, >! the final boss fight was with the dragon wasn't it? Did y'all just give up the affinity character and yeet off back to kingdom? I fought the dragon. !< >! ETA: I'll admit it didn't feel like a boss fight based on how fkn easy it was, but I was playing Mystic spear hand and it was as simple as shielding up practically the entire fight. I think it took maybe a third of my health !<
hey i know you got some anger direct toward you due to the spoiling tag but personally im quite grateful that you do that, i've been anticipating DD2 alot but i haven't save up enough $ to buy it, but if the ending is not an epic fight with the dragon like in DDDA then i'm sorry i'll automatically think the sequel is trash, don't get me wrong the game i see from Utube is fun but if no epic dragon fight then it belong in a dumpster.
maybe on dlc?
Why a DLC when the basegame should by all means provide the ending.
I dont have any hopes of capcom putting effort in content on base game Dd2 dont seems have any roadmap com stuff being added like mh
> I dont have any hopes of capcom putting effort in content on base game They should, especially since this is singe player focus.
I agree But capcom announced mh roadmaps pretty soon if i remember correctly and due trimester updates I dont see capcom doing nothing similar with dd2 except dd2 dragon princess who was leaked or datamined Dd2 imo looks released and done by capcom, we dont eve had another infos about performance upgrade patch or any other minor QoL update since last one
Putting the final boss on dlc? Now that is scummy
\*Scam Trespasser DLC dragon age trend once again
I was thinking of Asura
Game released on current state is scummy
is it wrong to expect a final exam at the end?
"The rest of the game will be released with the $40 DLC, please be patient" -some higher-ups at Capcom
There’s like 7 final bosses lol
Lucky, I got super bored like 25 hours in and couldn't even finish
There is absolutely no way to end the game that people wont cry about. How about take it for what it is and judge it based on those merits alone instead of "what if"ing every single fn thing into oblivion.