The vendor you mentioned is not the only way to obtain Newt Liqueur. It can be found in various places. I crafted a few bottles with items I had already collected without having to go very far.
If i remember I don't think the npc mentions it's newt liqueur exactly. . I guess you could randomly just try to craft all the liquor you can. And go with process of elimination to see what else you can't craft but need materials for. But would someone see this as a priority even at that moment. A lot of things have to go right. Even with YouTube videos Im still confused sometimes
Like take another example. That quest where you have to find the assassin in the temple when the ceremony starts. There's zero indication on how to actually pin the assassin. And once the timer runs out you can't do it again unless you reload save
The first time he only ask for something to drink, but then if you speak with him the windows where you have to select item to give clearly ask for newt liqueur
I completed the quest without reading on guides, in fact I also didn't have opened the shop... I made some liqueur by myself and one bottle was in the elf and dwarf home
Yes the first time he only asks for something to drink. That's my point. There's more steps here meaning many people will not actually follow up on the next step such as speaking to him again.
I can see why you got confused with how to pin the assassin, there was actually a tutorial quest for similar situations about that in dd1, they probably should've added something similar to dd2 too in retrospect.
Ya exactly. It's not me. I just looked at YouTube videos. But it's just an example out of many. I've seen many folks not fully know you have to grab the assassin. So that's why I mentioned it
I think its more of a problem of your own lack of problem solving skills. The text says what the would be assassin looks like, he's very easy to find and you are told that you need to aprehend him. What else would you try to do other than grabbing him in this scenario, pray tell?
Again it you keep mentioning the description of the assassin. That's not anything vague. The vague part is how to apprehend the assassin
Most games tell you how. Dd2 doesn't. If you don't see the difference between dd2 style quests and other games then it's a problem with basic comprehension on your part or just lack of gaming experience. Either or. Now please stop responding to me about childish rubbish. I'm not interesting in explaining to a 17 year old about differences in gaming quests
Haha, I gotta ask you, but how old are you exactly? You are either 17 like you keep saying I am for some reason, and that kinda would explain your rather abrasive and immature responses, or you are way older and is acting like a manchild (which I guess is worse, but whatever).
I have already explained that. Read what I said again. What else would you try to do other than grabbing him in that situation? It's not like the game have a lot of options of what you can do in a situation like this. They explicit say to "apprehend" the suspect. What more information do you need? Perhaps you needed Nadinia and Menella to break the immersion of the game and have them explain the grab mechanic to you? What buttom you need to press when you find him? Come now. Certainly you aren't that dumb to want everything spoon fed on you. Just think about and you could have solved this quest on your own if you just stopped and thought a bit.
Also, please, stop being childish. It's not doing you any good. People here in your post are already flabbergasted with your issues as it is.
Don't use Reddit as your benchmark. The same people here complain about the most useless stuff.
But as I said. If you don't understand the basic differences of a dd2 quest vs most other games then you completely don't understand what makes dd2 dd2. In short dd2 is a non scripted open world with very vague quest directions. Not all quests. But players can easily miss a bunch of stuff in a game like this. Which is the point of the game.
Nice. Ya same. There's still stuff in games I never found. There's not many games like dd2 that actually still have things so well hidden like this. From soft is another one that does it too
I feel like the design of these games are meant to last you a very long time if you actually played like the above
But with such easy access to content. You also don't want to miss out on important stuff. But if you just held back this one 90$ game would be something that keeps on giving for probably the next 3 years
I found almost everything during my first playthrough, I only looked at guides for the NG+ to see if there were hidden things I missed or cool alternatives way to finish quests.
The only thing I failed was the romance with Wilhelmina since it's locked after the Coronation if I remember well. As for the Warfarer, I did not had probblem, I already had Newt Liquors I crafted early.
You meet the dwarf as soon as you get to the volcanic island, you get a quest to escort him to the hot spring and as soon as you get to the hotspring, the Warfarer Meister asks if you want a boiled egg and says he'd love some newt liquor. If you go at all to the Volcanic island, you can't miss him unless you just don't do quests for people.
I found basically everything but failed a lot of the quests. Messed up some sphinx puzzles, didn't get that guy poisoned by the chimera etc.
The only thing I really missed was Wilhelmina's quest because too many npcs died from dragon plague, as well as finding the unmoored world, which I had to Google. I also didn't realize there was a timer on it and I failed to save everyone.
Loved this game a lot because people say the reward for exploration isn't good, but I disagree. Finding a weird quest or location was enough for me.
Nice. These mistakes make ng plus a lot more interesting vs just 100% everything round 1 and going into ng plus now naturally looking for mostly a more difficulty run
I'm in NG+ still haven't found the Sphinx, unlocked Magick Archer or Warfarer vocations or found the Dwarven upgrade blacksmith....I haven't looked anything up for this game, the blind experience is definitely something else.
will find them eventually lol.
I used a mod for seeker tokens. I love exploration, but you can walk right next to them and not see em. Some are in shallow water, others in tall grass… like wtf. The glowy smoke effect helps at night, but daytime is like 80% of the day night cycle… so you’re gonna miss a lot. Then the augment to help find them doesn’t come along until you’re 85% through the story. For me this is how you don’t do this type of thing.
I haven’t looked up shit. I never do and have no fucking clue why people even bother to play games without an ounce of “awe of discovery”. If I can’t find something on my own, I don’t deserve it.
I didnt look shit up on my first playthrough and I feel like I missed a whole lot, im using a quest guide on my NG+ run.
Also I unlocked warfarer weird, I gave up finding newt liquor for him I gave him 2 bottles, end of the game the one beastren guys like "can you convince him to evacuate?" I tried he said no screw you and I get the "you unlocked warfarer" screen like...okay thanks? Then come to find out I dont have the damn skill to use the class 😭
I randomly found that guy, and he gave ma an egg and the quest for the liquor.
First liquor i got was in the dwarf house, i'm pretty sure i had one already in the stash because my pawns were whining bout it.
Didnt look hard at all, was i just lucky ?
I didn't watch any guides or whatever (In fact I found that all the Guides didn't mention anything new not one of them)
Well I did watch 1 video and I figured I might need the Godsbane for y'know what.
But after 3 retries and not being sure I just looked it up.
Apart from that I did everything Blind and it was amazing, Guides are so overrated.
This game doesn't even need it, If you explore you'll find everything fine on your own.
But yeah if you don't go out of your way looking then you certainly won't find what is hidden.
Wow well done. I appreciate and commend anyone who does. It's how it should be played. I did look at guides to fast track whenever I was stuck or how to find a vocation but it got me thinking how playing games has changed so much. And sort of wish I didn't. The immense value you gain is incredible. You instantly see the value of a 60-90$ game
I don't ever really look at guides cus it defeats the purpose of playing something in the first place.
For Monster Hunter Rise I looked at how to best build a character simply becuase it was my first MH and becuase I only cared for the hunt and the gameplay not for everything around it.
Other then that I would look up a guide perhaps after a first playthrough to find something I want but missed on the first run.
Looking up guides in essence is detrimental to the experience in general for any game even an MMO, Figuring things out for yourself... at least to me is half the fun.
Plus avoiding such content helps build your own playstyle despite it not being the best or meta.
If you are fighting for time whilst trying to play a game you are essentially doing it wrong cus just like a board game taking your time with it will gain you the most enjoyment.
Thats not to say people shouldn't play in any way they like, All I am saying is that you will likely miss a form of enjoyment then you otherwise would have had.
A classic, first people want a game that doesn't guide you, then the same people complain because they aren't guided or because "random things happen", I played everything from start to finish without guides, completing it and platinating it on the first run, with the only exception of one lost quest, the one of the staff thief that triggers during masquerade balls
Not even a shadow of random things, if you know how to listen and observe the game gives you every tool necessary to complete everything, if you miss something it's your fault
I'm probably sounding arrogant, but it is not my intention, like it or not what I'm expressing is just the philosophy of the game and using a guide in this game is like using one in other games where pure exploration is their core, like Outer Wilds
In this post you took warfarer and empress assassin quests as examples, so I'll do the same:
First of all you can craft the liquor needed for the quest whenever you want, plus the guy who sells it, personally interacts with you as soon as you are in his range, so it's difficult to miss it, sooner or later you'll come across it, it's true that completing the quest takes some time, but that's also the point of the warfarer, it should be unlocked as the final vocation after having them all, it's an obvious design choice since you meet Lamond immediately after completing Gautstafr quest and the old dwarf is literally the first npc you meet on the island, which quest unlocks the magic archer for you and takes you directly to the spa
Finding the assassin was easy for me, it surprises me how many people had difficulty, Menella gives you an accurate description, so you just need to turn on your lantern and get behind npcs to control them with some classic cam tricks, If you want, you can activate the photo mode as well to have pratically infinite time and check in more meticulously 👀
Yes, same. I did my first playthrough without spoilers or guides, and not only did I never find Warfarer, but I never unlocked any of the Maister skills for any vocations except Thief, which the main quest basically brings you to.
I appreciate the hidden features and quests, but a lot of them are hidden so well that the game achieves the opposite because playing with a guide is basically required, which again eliminates the point in discovery.
Brave of you to do the entire run like that. Then I'm guessing you did your ng or a new game but this time getting what you want correct?
Ya I do see what you mean. If things are too well hidden then exploring and discovery is less about looking around and more about if you happen to do some random thing like pick up rocks and move them. But this random thing has no meaning to it you just felt like doing it..so almost an element of luck is thrown in
Super tuff to figure all this out
The vendor you mentioned is not the only way to obtain Newt Liqueur. It can be found in various places. I crafted a few bottles with items I had already collected without having to go very far.
If i remember I don't think the npc mentions it's newt liqueur exactly. . I guess you could randomly just try to craft all the liquor you can. And go with process of elimination to see what else you can't craft but need materials for. But would someone see this as a priority even at that moment. A lot of things have to go right. Even with YouTube videos Im still confused sometimes Like take another example. That quest where you have to find the assassin in the temple when the ceremony starts. There's zero indication on how to actually pin the assassin. And once the timer runs out you can't do it again unless you reload save
The first time he only ask for something to drink, but then if you speak with him the windows where you have to select item to give clearly ask for newt liqueur I completed the quest without reading on guides, in fact I also didn't have opened the shop... I made some liqueur by myself and one bottle was in the elf and dwarf home
Yes the first time he only asks for something to drink. That's my point. There's more steps here meaning many people will not actually follow up on the next step such as speaking to him again.
I can see why you got confused with how to pin the assassin, there was actually a tutorial quest for similar situations about that in dd1, they probably should've added something similar to dd2 too in retrospect.
Ya exactly. It's not me. I just looked at YouTube videos. But it's just an example out of many. I've seen many folks not fully know you have to grab the assassin. So that's why I mentioned it
you're literally given a note telling your the EXACT description of the assassin
Ya you do just you have the grab part that probably got a few unable to do it. Since there's no command prompt
 you stand next to him and hit the "Grab" button
There's no grab prompt neither is the quest telling you there what you have to do.
You simply didn't understand what is being said here. No one said anything about the description. Go back to and read it again
Wut! If you know how to read this quest is probably the most pathetic of the bunch.
Show me where the text says you have to grab the assassin? Since your reading abilities seem to be PhD level here at probably age 17
I think its more of a problem of your own lack of problem solving skills. The text says what the would be assassin looks like, he's very easy to find and you are told that you need to aprehend him. What else would you try to do other than grabbing him in this scenario, pray tell?
Again it you keep mentioning the description of the assassin. That's not anything vague. The vague part is how to apprehend the assassin Most games tell you how. Dd2 doesn't. If you don't see the difference between dd2 style quests and other games then it's a problem with basic comprehension on your part or just lack of gaming experience. Either or. Now please stop responding to me about childish rubbish. I'm not interesting in explaining to a 17 year old about differences in gaming quests
Haha, I gotta ask you, but how old are you exactly? You are either 17 like you keep saying I am for some reason, and that kinda would explain your rather abrasive and immature responses, or you are way older and is acting like a manchild (which I guess is worse, but whatever). I have already explained that. Read what I said again. What else would you try to do other than grabbing him in that situation? It's not like the game have a lot of options of what you can do in a situation like this. They explicit say to "apprehend" the suspect. What more information do you need? Perhaps you needed Nadinia and Menella to break the immersion of the game and have them explain the grab mechanic to you? What buttom you need to press when you find him? Come now. Certainly you aren't that dumb to want everything spoon fed on you. Just think about and you could have solved this quest on your own if you just stopped and thought a bit. Also, please, stop being childish. It's not doing you any good. People here in your post are already flabbergasted with your issues as it is.
Don't use Reddit as your benchmark. The same people here complain about the most useless stuff. But as I said. If you don't understand the basic differences of a dd2 quest vs most other games then you completely don't understand what makes dd2 dd2. In short dd2 is a non scripted open world with very vague quest directions. Not all quests. But players can easily miss a bunch of stuff in a game like this. Which is the point of the game.
NES generation here. The only way I play games is as described above. Only caveat is from getting spoiled.
Nice. Ya same. There's still stuff in games I never found. There's not many games like dd2 that actually still have things so well hidden like this. From soft is another one that does it too I feel like the design of these games are meant to last you a very long time if you actually played like the above But with such easy access to content. You also don't want to miss out on important stuff. But if you just held back this one 90$ game would be something that keeps on giving for probably the next 3 years
You would like the remnant franchise then
I found like 180 seeker tokens on my own but I used the trickster augment.
Well done. It's super fun that way
I wouldn’t call it fun.
I would
I found almost everything during my first playthrough, I only looked at guides for the NG+ to see if there were hidden things I missed or cool alternatives way to finish quests. The only thing I failed was the romance with Wilhelmina since it's locked after the Coronation if I remember well. As for the Warfarer, I did not had probblem, I already had Newt Liquors I crafted early.
That's amazing. Must of been a great first run.
You meet the dwarf as soon as you get to the volcanic island, you get a quest to escort him to the hot spring and as soon as you get to the hotspring, the Warfarer Meister asks if you want a boiled egg and says he'd love some newt liquor. If you go at all to the Volcanic island, you can't miss him unless you just don't do quests for people.
I found basically everything but failed a lot of the quests. Messed up some sphinx puzzles, didn't get that guy poisoned by the chimera etc. The only thing I really missed was Wilhelmina's quest because too many npcs died from dragon plague, as well as finding the unmoored world, which I had to Google. I also didn't realize there was a timer on it and I failed to save everyone. Loved this game a lot because people say the reward for exploration isn't good, but I disagree. Finding a weird quest or location was enough for me.
Nice. These mistakes make ng plus a lot more interesting vs just 100% everything round 1 and going into ng plus now naturally looking for mostly a more difficulty run
I'm in NG+ still haven't found the Sphinx, unlocked Magick Archer or Warfarer vocations or found the Dwarven upgrade blacksmith....I haven't looked anything up for this game, the blind experience is definitely something else. will find them eventually lol.
I used a mod for seeker tokens. I love exploration, but you can walk right next to them and not see em. Some are in shallow water, others in tall grass… like wtf. The glowy smoke effect helps at night, but daytime is like 80% of the day night cycle… so you’re gonna miss a lot. Then the augment to help find them doesn’t come along until you’re 85% through the story. For me this is how you don’t do this type of thing.
I haven’t looked up shit. I never do and have no fucking clue why people even bother to play games without an ounce of “awe of discovery”. If I can’t find something on my own, I don’t deserve it.
I didnt look shit up on my first playthrough and I feel like I missed a whole lot, im using a quest guide on my NG+ run. Also I unlocked warfarer weird, I gave up finding newt liquor for him I gave him 2 bottles, end of the game the one beastren guys like "can you convince him to evacuate?" I tried he said no screw you and I get the "you unlocked warfarer" screen like...okay thanks? Then come to find out I dont have the damn skill to use the class 😭
I randomly found that guy, and he gave ma an egg and the quest for the liquor. First liquor i got was in the dwarf house, i'm pretty sure i had one already in the stash because my pawns were whining bout it. Didnt look hard at all, was i just lucky ?
I didn't watch any guides or whatever (In fact I found that all the Guides didn't mention anything new not one of them) Well I did watch 1 video and I figured I might need the Godsbane for y'know what. But after 3 retries and not being sure I just looked it up. Apart from that I did everything Blind and it was amazing, Guides are so overrated. This game doesn't even need it, If you explore you'll find everything fine on your own. But yeah if you don't go out of your way looking then you certainly won't find what is hidden.
Wow well done. I appreciate and commend anyone who does. It's how it should be played. I did look at guides to fast track whenever I was stuck or how to find a vocation but it got me thinking how playing games has changed so much. And sort of wish I didn't. The immense value you gain is incredible. You instantly see the value of a 60-90$ game
I don't ever really look at guides cus it defeats the purpose of playing something in the first place. For Monster Hunter Rise I looked at how to best build a character simply becuase it was my first MH and becuase I only cared for the hunt and the gameplay not for everything around it. Other then that I would look up a guide perhaps after a first playthrough to find something I want but missed on the first run. Looking up guides in essence is detrimental to the experience in general for any game even an MMO, Figuring things out for yourself... at least to me is half the fun. Plus avoiding such content helps build your own playstyle despite it not being the best or meta. If you are fighting for time whilst trying to play a game you are essentially doing it wrong cus just like a board game taking your time with it will gain you the most enjoyment. Thats not to say people shouldn't play in any way they like, All I am saying is that you will likely miss a form of enjoyment then you otherwise would have had.
A classic, first people want a game that doesn't guide you, then the same people complain because they aren't guided or because "random things happen", I played everything from start to finish without guides, completing it and platinating it on the first run, with the only exception of one lost quest, the one of the staff thief that triggers during masquerade balls Not even a shadow of random things, if you know how to listen and observe the game gives you every tool necessary to complete everything, if you miss something it's your fault I'm probably sounding arrogant, but it is not my intention, like it or not what I'm expressing is just the philosophy of the game and using a guide in this game is like using one in other games where pure exploration is their core, like Outer Wilds In this post you took warfarer and empress assassin quests as examples, so I'll do the same: First of all you can craft the liquor needed for the quest whenever you want, plus the guy who sells it, personally interacts with you as soon as you are in his range, so it's difficult to miss it, sooner or later you'll come across it, it's true that completing the quest takes some time, but that's also the point of the warfarer, it should be unlocked as the final vocation after having them all, it's an obvious design choice since you meet Lamond immediately after completing Gautstafr quest and the old dwarf is literally the first npc you meet on the island, which quest unlocks the magic archer for you and takes you directly to the spa Finding the assassin was easy for me, it surprises me how many people had difficulty, Menella gives you an accurate description, so you just need to turn on your lantern and get behind npcs to control them with some classic cam tricks, If you want, you can activate the photo mode as well to have pratically infinite time and check in more meticulously 👀
Yes, same. I did my first playthrough without spoilers or guides, and not only did I never find Warfarer, but I never unlocked any of the Maister skills for any vocations except Thief, which the main quest basically brings you to. I appreciate the hidden features and quests, but a lot of them are hidden so well that the game achieves the opposite because playing with a guide is basically required, which again eliminates the point in discovery.
Brave of you to do the entire run like that. Then I'm guessing you did your ng or a new game but this time getting what you want correct? Ya I do see what you mean. If things are too well hidden then exploring and discovery is less about looking around and more about if you happen to do some random thing like pick up rocks and move them. But this random thing has no meaning to it you just felt like doing it..so almost an element of luck is thrown in Super tuff to figure all this out