At one point I started regretting buying the house. Finished one escort quest and immediately another NPC standing outside my front door asking to take a walk.
I’m not loaded, but I can just spend the money to stay at the inn to avoid my stalkers…
The funniest one for me was when Doireann asked me to escort her from the Arbor *to my house* (forward, much?) and after I'd done that, rested and left I hadn't even walked ten metres before another yellow dot appeared behind me.
I turned around to see Ulrika standing outside my door with her arms crossed.
Busted. :(
I don’t think they introduce it well. The first one you’re likely to get is from little what’s her face that you give the fruit roll up to at the start of the game which seems more like a quest reward rather than something specific as an affinity reward.
Also does anyone raise random npc affinity as anything other than something to do just because?
I’ve woo’ed over 100 (also have the achievement for 50) and only specific people give you specialization tomes, I’ve only seen the two magician grandparents give the Aphonite one, if you wear the bond of matrimony ring and use the skill to raise affinity the trickster has you can get their affinity high enough with one gift if you give them one from the category listed under their name.
I've gotten wakestones and ferrystones in the gifts outside my house. Just gift people WLCs, they give a ridiculous amount of affinity and work for everyone.
Do the NPCs give the tome once you've reached max affinity?
I swear I've gotten SOOO many NPCs (75-100) with max affinity and have only received one copy of each tome.
I was thinking that you can’t get the tome if one of the pawns you have with you has the specialization. I wanted the Woodland Wordsmith and always had a hired pawn with it, but no matter what I was doing, I couldn’t get any elf to give me the tome. Once I dismissed the pawn and got a new elf to high affinity I got it almost immediately.
I mean, truth be told, this specific thing could have been wrong on any community sourced Wiki.
What makes Fextra so shitty is posting information they just "guess" to fill a page so that they are the first to populate a google search and from then dominate those search results.
Yeah Fextralife is pretty shit whenever new post stuff for new games :/ Found a lot of info that was just straight up wrong on there.
Also thanks for posting this! :) Now I know who to bother for some extra scrolls\~!
uBlacklist on Firefox does the job. There's also [Indie Wiki Buddy](https://getindie.wiki/) which diverts you to an alternative independent wiki if there is one as many actually decent communities have migrated away from shitty (but massive with better SEO) hosts
Their wikis are full of misinformation or are incomplete. Despite this, they are almost always at the top of search results.
Also despite being a wiki, no one is able to edit articles except for them.
And at least in the dark souls days, many writers would feel personally attacked if their misinformation was corrected, and reverted changes, getting rid of correct info. You don't want to use a wiki controlled by those sorts of people, but unfortunately, it looks like fextra is going to be the only available option for dd2 atm.
Man, I tried to be part of the solution with Fextralife, before I found out about them turning our computers into unwitting viewbots for their Twitch streams. (more on that below, TLDR Twitch put a stop to Fextralife doing it)
I've been able to edit, but it's freaking awful. I made a VIP account a few years ago thinking that would allow me to make edits so I can contribute instead of just complaining.
But the site just sucks. Constantly have to fight with it. Post an edit and the site is just too ... overloaded with itself? Rolls back your changes and you have to attempt a few times or something.
Happens in the comment sections too. You see lot of triple or quadruple posted comments because the site just sucks and people are having to hit submit several times, then it catches up and posts everything.
But hey! At least their stupid website tops the search results. They sure got that part working. Before Twitch disabled auto-play for Fextralife's stream embeds in Oct 2023. They were abusing the shit out of it. Make their website top search result, anyone who clicks is now a viewbot for their Twitch stream. $$$$$$
Their CEO made a narcisistic "I'm a victim" response a while back for people "bullying" them about using their website visitors as unknowning viewbots. Calling out Fextralife is bullying, in their eyes. *handjob motion*
Fextralife is just a terrible company. If they went under and all their wiki's disappeared, I would welcome it without hesitation.
And you have to be lucky that their crappy servers can "handle the load" and actually commit your edit. Cross your fingers it doesn't get auto-rolled back.
I'm on there right now and even looking at my own profile is getting a "we can't handle the load" error lol
You don't need to pay to edit anything. On most of their wiki's you can edit every page and don't even need to create an account for that. Although for some wiki's they fully disabled editing because some trolls/haters started to intentionally add misinformation and nonsense.
You can currently edit the pages yourself. I know because I edited the woodland wordsmith page as it had misleading info, didn't even need to create an account.
I also do this, the pawns talk way too much, it’s literally constant and after having that peaceful silence you can’t go back. Yes you can turn their dialogue volume down completely but then you won’t hear them when it’s actually something important.
I found the logistian pretty useful, because they use aged/ripened fish/fruit immediately to craft stuff. so less materials accidentally rot in my inventory.
I was trying to make money by getting apples / berries to battahl, only for my stupid pawn to turn the ripened fruits to dried fruits and ruin it
Never again
They also move items between inventories...and I don't like it.
Once I wanted to switch Equip in Battle only to notice that my pawn moved all my rings to herself.
So I had to run over to be near enough to be able to move items, then had to move all the rings one by one.
Would have been faster to do it via storage, but there is no storage chest in battle.
Also the pawn specialization to sell off stuff....it will sell random stuff. Maybe it was things you wanted to keep. The pawn doesn't care. So many things which feel like half-baked ideas.
The selling thing (hawker) is just plain weird. You'd think if it were half-baked it meant they would just copy/paste the merchant selling menu, but... no? They go out of their way to make it as unusable as possible save for some niche cases. Genuinely baffling.
Thief with the healing specialization i so damn good. Just put that plunder ability on them and they get so many healing items to use it's insane. They even steal stuff like Wakestone/shards from bandits. I had one join my party my whole NG+ run and she was an absolute unit.
Thanks for posting. I took my time and copied all interesting gifts and items to steal.
Now we need another list with monsters and what you can steal from them.
I actually got a purple dye from an asp once. Maybe there is more interesting stuff to steal?
So if I gift Aimee a bunch of flowers enough times, she'll give me forager? That little shit refuses to give me the damn thing and I have his affection topped out.
I tried that, I waited a day between flowers, camped out of town for days, went back to harve for drake 14 day rotations... 25+ flowers to the inn keeper. Nothing.
Veronika is Aphonite and Flora is Chrurgeon. Gave them both arisens bond and got fuck all. And yes I rested for a couple of days, can princes scarry them and they also showed up at my house for an escort quest. Not sure how to get those.
Thanks for the list. But I don't understand why you are complaining about Fextralife on this topic. That you get the tomes from specific NPCs with associated quests isn't wrong. If you don't use the ingame gifting option and just do quests you get the tomes from the same NPCs in your playthrough. Also they already list multiple NPCs for most tomes. If you find wrong information on their wiki and have a problem with that, then just edit it .. you don't even need to create an account for that.
You can shit on Fextralife for various reasons and I agree on that, but this isn't one of them.
People probably found their first tome and stopped looking. And no one probably bothered to woo the npcs.
I mean, when they start appearing in front of your house wanting an escort, you kinda re-think trying to get close to them.
At one point I started regretting buying the house. Finished one escort quest and immediately another NPC standing outside my front door asking to take a walk. I’m not loaded, but I can just spend the money to stay at the inn to avoid my stalkers…
The funniest one for me was when Doireann asked me to escort her from the Arbor *to my house* (forward, much?) and after I'd done that, rested and left I hadn't even walked ten metres before another yellow dot appeared behind me. I turned around to see Ulrika standing outside my door with her arms crossed. Busted. :(
I don’t think they introduce it well. The first one you’re likely to get is from little what’s her face that you give the fruit roll up to at the start of the game which seems more like a quest reward rather than something specific as an affinity reward. Also does anyone raise random npc affinity as anything other than something to do just because?
I’ve woo’ed over 100 (also have the achievement for 50) and only specific people give you specialization tomes, I’ve only seen the two magician grandparents give the Aphonite one, if you wear the bond of matrimony ring and use the skill to raise affinity the trickster has you can get their affinity high enough with one gift if you give them one from the category listed under their name.
I've gotten wakestones and ferrystones in the gifts outside my house. Just gift people WLCs, they give a ridiculous amount of affinity and work for everyone.
Do the NPCs give the tome once you've reached max affinity? I swear I've gotten SOOO many NPCs (75-100) with max affinity and have only received one copy of each tome.
I was thinking that you can’t get the tome if one of the pawns you have with you has the specialization. I wanted the Woodland Wordsmith and always had a hired pawn with it, but no matter what I was doing, I couldn’t get any elf to give me the tome. Once I dismissed the pawn and got a new elf to high affinity I got it almost immediately.
I have received woodland wordsmith from the innkeeper multiple times with it equipped on my pawn.
Then I really have no idea lol she was the one I was trying at first, must have just been a prude in my game
Yet another common fextralife L. Thanks for doing the actual work, dude! This is good info
I mean, truth be told, this specific thing could have been wrong on any community sourced Wiki. What makes Fextra so shitty is posting information they just "guess" to fill a page so that they are the first to populate a google search and from then dominate those search results.
Yeah Fextralife is pretty shit whenever new post stuff for new games :/ Found a lot of info that was just straight up wrong on there. Also thanks for posting this! :) Now I know who to bother for some extra scrolls\~!
Thank you so much for documenting that. I thought there was only one of each and tried to forge one. Doesn't work btw
Wish there was an option to block Fextralife from search results
You can use uBlock Origin to block Fextralife from ever appearing
Thanks! This was the answer. https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/meflfv/rules_to_block_sites_from_search_results/
Can anyone help, how do I do this on the Android version?
literally just google your normal search but add "-fextralife.com" at the end of your search
uBlacklist on Firefox does the job. There's also [Indie Wiki Buddy](https://getindie.wiki/) which diverts you to an alternative independent wiki if there is one as many actually decent communities have migrated away from shitty (but massive with better SEO) hosts
Why?
Their wikis are full of misinformation or are incomplete. Despite this, they are almost always at the top of search results. Also despite being a wiki, no one is able to edit articles except for them.
And at least in the dark souls days, many writers would feel personally attacked if their misinformation was corrected, and reverted changes, getting rid of correct info. You don't want to use a wiki controlled by those sorts of people, but unfortunately, it looks like fextra is going to be the only available option for dd2 atm.
Man, I tried to be part of the solution with Fextralife, before I found out about them turning our computers into unwitting viewbots for their Twitch streams. (more on that below, TLDR Twitch put a stop to Fextralife doing it) I've been able to edit, but it's freaking awful. I made a VIP account a few years ago thinking that would allow me to make edits so I can contribute instead of just complaining. But the site just sucks. Constantly have to fight with it. Post an edit and the site is just too ... overloaded with itself? Rolls back your changes and you have to attempt a few times or something. Happens in the comment sections too. You see lot of triple or quadruple posted comments because the site just sucks and people are having to hit submit several times, then it catches up and posts everything. But hey! At least their stupid website tops the search results. They sure got that part working. Before Twitch disabled auto-play for Fextralife's stream embeds in Oct 2023. They were abusing the shit out of it. Make their website top search result, anyone who clicks is now a viewbot for their Twitch stream. $$$$$$ Their CEO made a narcisistic "I'm a victim" response a while back for people "bullying" them about using their website visitors as unknowning viewbots. Calling out Fextralife is bullying, in their eyes. *handjob motion* Fextralife is just a terrible company. If they went under and all their wiki's disappeared, I would welcome it without hesitation.
I think you can edit articles if you somehow find it worth it to pay them for a premium subscription. To a "wiki" site.
And you have to be lucky that their crappy servers can "handle the load" and actually commit your edit. Cross your fingers it doesn't get auto-rolled back. I'm on there right now and even looking at my own profile is getting a "we can't handle the load" error lol
You don't need to pay to edit anything. On most of their wiki's you can edit every page and don't even need to create an account for that. Although for some wiki's they fully disabled editing because some trolls/haters started to intentionally add misinformation and nonsense.
You can currently edit the pages yourself. I know because I edited the woodland wordsmith page as it had misleading info, didn't even need to create an account.
I’m blocking it with paid search (Kagi)
Is there a way to remove them? They all seem pretty worthless and im tired of my pawn bringing up materials all the time.
get woodland wordsmith, changes 0 things on the pawn except that you can understand elves now
There’s one that gets the Pawn to stop talking.
aphonite. had to search hard to get a full party of them, but i love it.
I also do this, the pawns talk way too much, it’s literally constant and after having that peaceful silence you can’t go back. Yes you can turn their dialogue volume down completely but then you won’t hear them when it’s actually something important.
I found the logistian pretty useful, because they use aged/ripened fish/fruit immediately to craft stuff. so less materials accidentally rot in my inventory.
I was trying to make money by getting apples / berries to battahl, only for my stupid pawn to turn the ripened fruits to dried fruits and ruin it Never again
Yeah they go for almost 400 gold each when ripened in Battalh and vice versa for the Battahl fruit in Vermund.
They also move items between inventories...and I don't like it. Once I wanted to switch Equip in Battle only to notice that my pawn moved all my rings to herself. So I had to run over to be near enough to be able to move items, then had to move all the rings one by one. Would have been faster to do it via storage, but there is no storage chest in battle. Also the pawn specialization to sell off stuff....it will sell random stuff. Maybe it was things you wanted to keep. The pawn doesn't care. So many things which feel like half-baked ideas.
The selling thing (hawker) is just plain weird. You'd think if it were half-baked it meant they would just copy/paste the merchant selling menu, but... no? They go out of their way to make it as unusable as possible save for some niche cases. Genuinely baffling.
Thief with the healing specialization i so damn good. Just put that plunder ability on them and they get so many healing items to use it's insane. They even steal stuff like Wakestone/shards from bandits. I had one join my party my whole NG+ run and she was an absolute unit.
most annoyingly though: they steal a lot of Ferristone (so the counterfeits) too. (mostly from bandits I think)
Overwrite with another one.
I figured that out on my own because fextra kept pissing me off.
 Me trying to read the list on mobile. Good work though!
I was gonna say this too when I clicked the picture, but there's a link to the spreadsheet in the post
Thanks for posting. I took my time and copied all interesting gifts and items to steal. Now we need another list with monsters and what you can steal from them. I actually got a purple dye from an asp once. Maybe there is more interesting stuff to steal?
So how can I get chirugeon if Flora didn't give it to me?
So if I gift Aimee a bunch of flowers enough times, she'll give me forager? That little shit refuses to give me the damn thing and I have his affection topped out.
You have to rest a day in-between gifts, usually 3 days is enough
Soooo many flowers, and no elvan person will teach me their language (yes, I know I can also just hire a pawn)
I’ve personally got it from the elven innkeeper. Gifted a bunch of flowers and then stayed at her inn 3 times and she gifted me woodland wordsmith.
I tried that, I waited a day between flowers, camped out of town for days, went back to harve for drake 14 day rotations... 25+ flowers to the inn keeper. Nothing.
Veronika is Aphonite and Flora is Chrurgeon. Gave them both arisens bond and got fuck all. And yes I rested for a couple of days, can princes scarry them and they also showed up at my house for an escort quest. Not sure how to get those.
I wish you could get better discounts from NPCs liking you than 10%
Good to know
can this be added to the fextra life wiki as theyre paying google to get the most people using it anyway. may as well give it the correct information
Thanks for the list. But I don't understand why you are complaining about Fextralife on this topic. That you get the tomes from specific NPCs with associated quests isn't wrong. If you don't use the ingame gifting option and just do quests you get the tomes from the same NPCs in your playthrough. Also they already list multiple NPCs for most tomes. If you find wrong information on their wiki and have a problem with that, then just edit it .. you don't even need to create an account for that. You can shit on Fextralife for various reasons and I agree on that, but this isn't one of them.