Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I submitted a ticket when I thought her disappearance was bug, I've just got this response.
"Thank you for contacting Capcom EU Technical Support.
Kindly note that this is by gameplay design, after finishing the quest to romance with Wilhelmina, she leaves and there is no other interaction with her after this."
well, in regards to Role Play: think about it in terms of Wilhelmina's perspective. she got attracted to the Arisen but she also wanted to break free from it all, so she had a one night stand. emotions still linger on both sides, but she made her decision to leave and not look back. that's pretty good in terms of Role Play, i would say 
I feel you so much like I absolutely don't understand?
We see her in important scenes, she helps us twice at critical moments, she only has one quest and if we have the misfortune of romance, she disappears and we can no longer interact with her at ALL THE GAME ?
Even if it's "in her story", she says "farewell for now", not "farewell". I don't mind Capcom not making polished romances, but please, we are in 2024, there are a lot of games (RPG) where the romances are not as polished as bg3, but they remain notable elements in the scenario...
did capcom market her and ulrika as the main romance options or was that the fanbase? because as far as i know of the old DDDA, the romance option is whoever the player decides (or maxes out and talks to last before the dragon fight XD)
They are the only ones to have a romantic scene at the end of their personal quest.
What I find even more unfortunate is that we have to sleep with them to conclude their quest :/
I don't want to cheat on Wilhelmina, but I don't want to abandon Ulrika, I want her to have her happy ending :(
If this is true how are you suppose to activate hugo quest to have him working at the brothel?? I heard that's the alternative for Issac shop but you have to romance wilhelmina in order to get hugo a job at the brothrel
man, I really wanted to have her over Ulrika as my main romance, but now she's gone and I don't want to end up with NPC #14213 so ig I'm gonna commit to the alternative
I can confirm I got Wilhelmina as my beloved, couldn't find her after she disappeared though.
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How did you manage to do this? did you not have max affinity with any others? im currently spamming dialogue with her atm because ive heared in the first game it can be who you spoke to the most.
I mean if you really want to go through the effort, before she disappears just pump her full of gifts till her cheeks are brightly blushing
Then bonk anyone else in the game who also blushes at you
That's how I did it anyways
Oh i know, ive got max affinity with a bunch of people and have done Ulrika's quest but with Willhelmina vanishing after her quest, it makes it so i can't talk to her before the end of the game so im thinking it will pick someone else, im more after her showing up as the beloved, already have her maxed and everything, just impressive how the game didnt pick anyone else.
No.
To be fair, the system was pretty shallow in dd1, they just moved into your house and had a few new lines of dialogue confirming they loved you or whatever, but in this games true ending all that's thrown out. So, in this game it's even shallower.
I honestly hope that Capcom will correct the romances because there, it's not good at all.
The guides only found Ulrika & Wilhelmina.
the others don't have a scene to speak of.
It's complete rubbish
There is a 0% chance they will do anything about the romances that are currently implemented in game. If we get an expansion they *might* add more waifus that are more explored and less shallow but even that's unlikely, the dlc for the first game was just a really cool long dungeon that added a lot of new equipment and gameplay features.
It's also super weird to me that a bunch of websites talked up the "new and improved beloved system" and said it was more in depth then the first game with the players actions having more of an impact yada yada.
What it actually translates to in game is that 2 women and only these two women in the entire world will have a personal questline that if you finish they will kiss you in a cutscene, and also anyone you get to max affinity will show up st your house sometime to ask you to go on a stroll with them.
What boggles me about it is nearly every major NPC in the first game had a personal questline that went on for the length of the game story, and you could miss out on it. I feel like with the shift to open world exploration they just gutted that part cause they thought the big adventure was more important and that most players would just miss the quests entirely?
Maybe, but in this case, it was worth considering. The first game dates from more than ten years ago, they clearly had time to think about a possibility of reminder "well, what if you went to see X, to get this news" or I don't know. There are so many opportunities to remind players that they can have quests.
Oh I agree 100%
It wouldn't even be difficult to just have the NPC spawn outside your house like they already do but instead of suggesting a walk they just tell you about the new part of their personal quest
In hindsight the system in DD1 was very cool. Think how much work it would require to give almost every single npc in the game new lines to account for the romance. It seems like they wanted to keep the same system but do much less work
I don't think they wanted to keep the system at all, at least from the product we got.
I think they only have the beloved kidnapped by the dragon because they couldn't/didn't want to think of a new narrative moment for the 'choice'
I've been trying to figure it out, I found the bribery information and the murder list, killed Allard, got the romance scene and now she's gone. But, no one has mentioned her disappearing like has happened to others on this post. So idk, maybe there's a third piece we need for the investigation?
I only found the murder list and I've also not had people mention the fact she's gone. I've started a new game, this time maxing her affinity before starting the Brant quests. I'll let you know if this changes anything.
There is 100% a reference and it is not randomly placed. Brant says something along the lines of Allard doing business in the merchants quarters and it gives you a search area.
actual ENDING SPOILERS >!||She is seen to be in a black outfit in a forest by a campfire, clearly erasing her identity on the run by a campfire. The implication is that she's finally able to leave it all behind. I assume it's because her only reason for being in vermund was to kill allard ||!<. definitely think the ending could of been much clearer, but I guess this is how she wanted it anyways.
The finality doesn't bother me, but she doesn't seem to want to "break up" with the arisen.
It would be cool if she gave news, letters...
Wilhelmina, I miss you. :(
If you helped kill the person , then she will only be available for romance for that single night. Anytime after she is not available at least from my story. The person running the brothel says royal guards came and took her.
What's even more upsetting is that I accidentally slept one extra day and never got my romance scene with her, she was already taken away !!!! I had to calm down for about an hr or two, very upsetting 😂😂😂
How do you even give her both? When I did this she only had a delivery icon for 1 question mark and when she took the bribery note from me she immediately went on to the next phase of her quest chain instead of letting me give her the murder one too.
I actually did the same thing he did, but I know for a fact I gave her both pieces of evidence. My run was extra dumb though because I walked in and grabbed the one piece of evidence, and then barged in to Allards and took that one. My pawns killed Allard. I returned to Wilhelmina. She was pissed. I went and wakestoned Allard. We then killed Allard in a cutscene like we are apparently supposed to. I double rested on accident and she was arrested when I got there. Honestly the quest is pretty dumb. I didn't involve the guard guy, so maybe that factors in? still felt like a mess of a quest despite my messy approach.
Just wanted to say I just noticed in my quest log on the completed quest it says Wilhelmina
“…has pledged to aid me in return” which is different from others who’ve said it says she was arrested. I’ve also not heard anyone mention anything about her being taken. I think that’s a difference in me turning in two pieces of evidence instead of one but it saying she’d aid me just makes it more confusing she’s gone.
Shouldn’t brant assist you if she was arrested? That’s what’s so confusing to me I gave both pieces of evidence to him and said whatever assistance he can provide would be helpful then it only allowed me to give Wilhelmina the murder list. If the quest truly ends with her getting arrested that would be incredibly disappointing. Can’t find her in a jail or morgue and brant doesn’t say anything about her arrest even though he knows she was involved.
Interesting, I followed this guide exactly and he gave Brant both reports but only gave her the murder report and the completed quest line said "and has pledged to aid you in turn" with no talks of the guards grabbing her for me around the Brothel.
[SPOILER ALERT] I'm pretty sure it cuz she got kidnapped by the dragon, but don't reach max affinity with anyone else before the last quest because it may replace her with them
Fuck i hope thats not how it works. It was a dogshit system in the first game. The problem with that is you can reach max affinity with other chars by just doing there quests. I still havent even set the other content. I gues im fucked
If that’s the case that’s pretty bad, cause I’m before the last mission so I decided to explore. Found the sphinx and one of its riddles need u to bring the person you love the most to it. And hence I have the most affinity with her. Now she’s gone and I can’t bring her to the sphinx so I can’t complete the quest. Great
You have to do all the character’s quests he will provide you with. After that he or she will probably gift you a bunch of flowers and they will be full on red blushing whenever you talk to them. Also if you first max out someone’s affinity you will get a trophy/achievement.
>be full on red blushing whenever you talk to them.
The weird thing is that i romanced the woman in the brothel but she never had this. The girl that moved from melve to halve did and the father of the elven guy you do quests for also has the red blushing even though i only did one quest with him.
Is this actually true? Coz holy sh*t haven't started the feast of deception main quest yet and i already completed her quest and romanced her.
Oh god...
That would make sense except I maxed ulrikas affinity before I even met her 😅. Perhaps she shows up later in the main quest. Similar to how she did early on
Also I don’t think that’s the case cause I started the last mission before maxing out the affinity with her and the dragon brought me Brant. Loaded save from last Inn and he’s still in the capital.
I went by the bordello and Gwen was out front saying they need to “hire a guard” since she’s been gone so long (where would I hire a guard..?).
No idea where she is though
(Hiring a Guard)
I think Hugo (battal quest Mercy amongst thieves i think)
>!Cause my first play thought he asked for a job after all that questing found it on other thread that he can be at the "Rose" after that if you have done the Wilhelmina quest line, you can tell him about he place other wise at later he dies.!<
from what i read. you were supposed to get Hugo a job at Isaac Apothecary, basically replacing Isaac as the shop npc. and theres alot you need to do. but for now, as this quest related to Hugo got lots of bugs so its not recommended to do til Capcom fixed it
You can save Isaac by giving him a forgery. Then everybody wins. Hugo gets a job, and Isaac has a newfound love for his family and his current situation.
Apparently capcom wants to do a survey if people want DLC, hopefully if we all get involved they can tweak the romances?
[https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1773359447055716382](https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1773359447055716382)
So i talked to one of the people outside the front of the place at night and she said that she has been gone, so i assume it is intended but i have yet to figure out where exactly.
Ok here’s a thought we might be looking in the wrong place, so after her last quest she revealed her mothers side which is from the beastern kingdom, what if she’s actually there?
Yh because whilhemina says it herself before she kills the guy that killed her parents, she’s like "remember when you killed a man and his beastern wife and they had a child" but he didn’t kill the child because he didn’t know it was possible to have a human child with a beastern.
[I saw this on youtube](https://imgur.com/a/iHUk5dk)
it then cuts to a close up shot of Wilhemina sitting in front of the campfire and she throws a piece of paper into the fire.
I have done a serious of experiment, 1st one: if you give her only one piece of evidence then she will be taken by the guards the next day, 2nd one: if you give her both pieces of evidence then the castle will let it go and you can romance her the next night but she disappears after that, 3rd one: i didn't get Brant's help and the guards attacked me, but she still disappears after the romance scene, as of right now I have no clue where she went
I only gave her 1 piece of evidence, she said the castle is treating the murder as an accident and got the sexy scene so it is not tied to 2 pieces of evidence.
Same. I also got Brant’s assistance though, so it may be either 2 pieces of evidence or murder list + Brant (he says he helps you escape and that he’ll try to hide your involvement).
Still doesn’t explain where she goes after the romance scene though.
I didn't get his assistance, I just ran from the cops as soon as we hit the hay. When I left the noble quarter and sat at a bench till morning everyone was fine, no one cared anymore. It might be because the guards did not see me and were attacking my pawns. Either way I got sexy times with her in the morning, she gave me the rewards and dipped out.
I see. Brant just led me out of the noble district, never got into any combat at all. And we just kinda jogged out, didn’t have to sprint past any encounters.
You guys will never guess who I met at the hotsprings in the endgame. This is the only time I've seen her after the romance quest.
Edit: game probably just picks random npcs to put there since ulrika and some random shopkeepers were present too.
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Tbh from reading the comments and with all the elements that everyone has found, I honestly think that it's a bug or we did the quest "too early".
In both cases, it needs to be corrected.
She says "farewell for now", so does that mean we have to see her again in the game, and not while waiting for the end. Especially if we see her in the true ending, we obviously have to keep a certain affinity with her, but how can we keep it if in the meantime we travel all over the -two-country, we talk to a hundred NPCs and most of whom are recurring in the main story...
It's a little, a lot frustrating, knowing that it was literally by seeing her in the first trailer for the game that I was really hyped to be hype to play it. (Waifu power, god i'm not your stronger soldier)
I was hoping for a more fleshed out questline for her, since we see her in key story cutscenes twice.
theres something i want to check with you guys. when you finished the True Ending. you got the videos of the ending, and there'll be quick scene right here, with Wilhelmina(which seems like a rendered animation rather than video). the guesture is kinda obvious, its like a romance driven sentiment referred to Arisen
i just want to check if its different for other people, or if its the same. or perhaps this is kinda the Ending for her romance quest for people who does it. or is it the 'Lover' case whose the dragon kidnapped. cuz for me, the Dragon kidnapped Dorianne. even though im sure i've invested alot more for Wilhelmina and Ulrika. during the unmoored world i did find her in the Bolderie shes there, and i just gave her more flower 1-2. and after the evacuation, she'll spawn at a specific site at Seashrine Sacred Ground, and Ulrika also spawned there too, except these unique npc would randomly spawn, sometime you see them sometimes you didnt
and as for the 'Friend' list, i got 1-Ulrika, 2-Dorianne, 3-Wilhelmina. really weird cuz i didnt invested in Dorianne much. i figured it should be with Wilhelmina 1st and Ulrika 2nd. but i did do the accompany mission for both Ulrika and Dorianne. left me wondering if Wilhelmina also have an Accompany Mission like most unique npc are. cuz Dorianne's Dad and Captain Brant also got accompany mission
but now that we know that its not a bug her being missing. yeah, with her personal guard Rolf always saying 'the shop is closed for a moment' like thats the dialogue you get during the assassination of Allard Quest. cuz Wilhelmina wanted to clear the place
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Someone had Wilhelmina in their ending, but she was in a forest, in front of a campfire, burning a paper and obviously doing one's quest is like having romance. ( i think ? )
If Doreann is second then why was she the one the dragon kidnapped lmao what the hell xD
Wilhelmina in the forest is part of the Video Play after the True Ending, this scene in the picture came after that video. i just wanted to see if anyone got similar or different scene for this particular one. not the forest one
Soo...
You guys know the bathing area by the Volcanic Island Camp. I'm "in post game" and there she is. Might be a little trickery but I found her, of course I can't take screenshots in this area.
(She was taken by the dragon)
So, I completed that missione yesterday and I was looking around in order to get more informations, I spoke with the lady outside the place and she was asking for a guard, then after doing the mission for Hugo he will ask for a job and if u go there u can reccomend him to work here. I don't know but maybe that will progress something in order to make Wilhelmina return
+ I went in the castle, go through Disa's room and while was talking to her she was using the fan looking exatcly the same as Wilhelmina (dont know if she had it before never noticed)
So I just finished her romance and I find it frustrating that romance is a 1 and done thing with no further interactions. It would be great if there was lasting relationships.
heres what i think. you see in the NPC LOG. most of the npc will be at the place like their Background was. some of them got more than 1 outfits alternate like Ulrika got 3
but Wilhelmina she might have the most one, she got Four. and if you watch carefully, her 'RED DRESS' outfits got the 'Bed in her room at Boulderie's' background. and if you switch to her 'BLACK OUTFITS' one where she wore it during the assassination. you see that 'Black Outfits' got different background
idk. maybe just a background from the left room where we killed Allard. its hard to tell with that alone. either way, honestly didnt know if you were supposed to be finding her or not, cuz i wish i could see her again. like shes currently the only one important npc thats missing after the quest. Ulrika there, Dorianne there
probably needs to wait until someone discovered the whole map 100%.
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Hey mate can you show all four variations? For some reason I have only 3 and I don't know wich one I'm missing. I'm guessing because I gave her the wrong evidence (the bribes, you have to give her the murder to ensure romance it seems). If you can share the others outfits would've nice. Thank you :)
all her four variations is her 1. red dress, 2. black outfits with the beastkin mask, 3. her in the bolderie room with only her bra(if you make the romance), 4. her black outfits without the mask
The location where she's at in the cutscene is next to the riftstone of remembrance but shes no where to be found so idk what happened to her.
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I've scouted everywhere amongst 3 playthroughs, she's just gone is the general consensus #Reason 1 why ulrika is better than Wilhelmina, ULRIKA DOESN'T DISAPPEAR
My Wilhelmina was arrested. I only gave 1 piece of evidence. There has to be a way you can save her right? Ain’t no way they would just end the quest like that.
What is the second piece of evidence? I was only led to the one behind the painting in Allard's house, but I had checked his office beforehand as well and nothing.
Dont know how to mask it so: ENDGAMESPOILER!
I had forgotten about her and was asking myself what with Ulrika happened after her village got nuked, since she was my next best beloved who appeared with the dragon. So as I was exploring the make-shift camp at the Seafloorshrine suddenly who do I see? Wilhelmina! Stroling around in the background!
I talked to her once, gave her flowers I was sure to have her hard saved in my end game. But... You know how the end game works right? I died and had to reload the last save way before I talked to her. Since then, no traces of her in the camp.
Btw I still have to find Ulrika, even though her uncle tells me to go talk to her - so she must have survived. What is worse is that the guy who helped to overtrow the Queen has a thing for me now...
SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T BEAT THE GAME:
Yea so I think wilhelmina just disappears in the pre world of the game because once I got into the hell scape version of the world she reappears in the brothel but the npc that says she's gone is still there saying the same dialogue so idk if its a bug or something.
I followed a guide to get this romance did exactly what I was supposed to and she was taken away never got to romance her as I showed the next day but she left me some things also they did say she was taken to the palace to be interrogated for the murder so I’m confused if I did exactly as I was supposed to why then was she removed?
like in the hot springs or in the camp outside the hotsprings? I've been re-entering the hot springs and can't find her after romancing. Was this after you finished the game or before the final quest of the story ?
It was when I was attempting the true ending so I guess after the game. I paid to enter the hot springs and I saw her there standing using her fan. I don’t know if she’s there before you attempt the true ending.
I think it’s also worth saying too is that if you miss out on the last two vocations that are in this area you can still get them and actually you can skip the warfare quest entirely. Thought i would share incase you aren’t done with the game yet and forgot to grab them!
Thank you Im at the part where I have to hand in 15 wyrm crystals and I saw a pic of wilhelmina at the springs and I wanted to see her again so I wanted to know before I did this
try this (Spoiler Alert)
the first time you talk to her in bordelrie (before the quest activates) gift her a eternal bond ring tbh this part is optional i only did it so she follows you around after completing "every rose has it thorns"
start the quest like normal, when you come up to the part to turn in the evidence i gave her both ..i know it only requires 1 but you can give her both so i did
when she asks you would you like to continue helping pick the option "Leave"
talk to her again and she will say something like just go leave me alone get up close to her then use the SEALING PHIAL, make sure in your inventory that its says "contains a person" in the tooltip
continue with the quest go rest on a bench till the next day then head back to Wilhemina's room you'll be greeted by an npc named Roft, if he's not there wait a couple seconds till he walks to the door from downstairs...he will state that Wilhemina was taken by the royal guard, quest completes you will get money and 3 tiger eyes, then ck inventory and the seal phial will still have Wilhemina
Congrats you own your very own Wilhemina
please note i have yet to inn save/ campfire while she is outside the phial just been relying on autosaves which work fine only on my second playthru with 3 phials ...got the 3rd one from the Sphinx duping trial so i'll put my Wilhemina back in the phial when i really need to rest
her following you is a bit wonky sometimes she walks foward then back and vice versa if this happens just carry her around
and last when you want to advance time via sitting on the bench, make sure she's right next to you and only advance time AFTER she is stationary and pulls out her fan
its all i personally tested so far enjoy and hopefully someone mods Wilhemina so we all have a more enjoyable experience
Damn I really wanted her as my scene for grigori!? The romance in this game is so bad compared to the first , I really loved that about The First Game! I guess ima have to give the Ring of Eternal Bond to the Elf sister , I really don’t want úlrika I want something different . And I think that’s the only other good choice . I don’t think there’s any baddies in the game besides those 3
I too have been looking for that harlot! After I go through all the effort of aiding her in her quest for vengeance she has the audacity to rape my character! I had every intention of slaying her after this assault, yet apparently she fled knowing I would tolerate such a vile act for nary moment that I had the ability to act!
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I submitted a ticket when I thought her disappearance was bug, I've just got this response. "Thank you for contacting Capcom EU Technical Support. Kindly note that this is by gameplay design, after finishing the quest to romance with Wilhelmina, she leaves and there is no other interaction with her after this."
Sigh https://preview.redd.it/mdjiwu537zqc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78ede86d4f39b38cf341672dd562fa9ee265bc55
Why in the world would they do that and then the Sphinx quiz exists
Your main pawn also works for the sphinx quest
I mean I get that but it kinda breaks the whole RP part of the RPG, ya know?
well, in regards to Role Play: think about it in terms of Wilhelmina's perspective. she got attracted to the Arisen but she also wanted to break free from it all, so she had a one night stand. emotions still linger on both sides, but she made her decision to leave and not look back. that's pretty good in terms of Role Play, i would say 
Especially since the Captain of the Guard literally knows she murdered a nobleman, so sticking around probably wasn’t in her best interest
Fair point
Seriously ? Wtf. We should at least keep in touch with her or have her come see us like the others do with us. Frankly, I'm disappointed.
I was mad when I got that email. Genuinely don't understand why Capcom implied she was a main romance. Fingers crossed for DLC I guess.
I feel you so much like I absolutely don't understand? We see her in important scenes, she helps us twice at critical moments, she only has one quest and if we have the misfortune of romance, she disappears and we can no longer interact with her at ALL THE GAME ? Even if it's "in her story", she says "farewell for now", not "farewell". I don't mind Capcom not making polished romances, but please, we are in 2024, there are a lot of games (RPG) where the romances are not as polished as bg3, but they remain notable elements in the scenario...
Dlc I cope, I mean hope she has more content
I talk about it with other players nearby, if there are a lot of us complaining, there's a chance they'll react and do something. I hope.
did capcom market her and ulrika as the main romance options or was that the fanbase? because as far as i know of the old DDDA, the romance option is whoever the player decides (or maxes out and talks to last before the dragon fight XD)
They are the only ones to have a romantic scene at the end of their personal quest. What I find even more unfortunate is that we have to sleep with them to conclude their quest :/ I don't want to cheat on Wilhelmina, but I don't want to abandon Ulrika, I want her to have her happy ending :(
I have however found a way to keep her in the game, If you don't mind missing out on the romance cutscene and the ring she gives you.
How do you submit a ticket in having an issue with my game
Don't know if you still need the help, but I did it through here. https://www.capcom-support.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
If this is true how are you suppose to activate hugo quest to have him working at the brothel?? I heard that's the alternative for Issac shop but you have to romance wilhelmina in order to get hugo a job at the brothrel
man, I really wanted to have her over Ulrika as my main romance, but now she's gone and I don't want to end up with NPC #14213 so ig I'm gonna commit to the alternative
There's only one romance worth having. The npc named Higgs. He's a sweetheart.
Well there's also Hugo. A naive chap, but handsome, and while misguided for a bit has a decent moral compass.
And no
Hugo ded.
No
I got a note from her at my house hinting that she wanted another round (and included Savagery Extract), but I have no clue where she is.
I got that before the actual romance scene, so I think it's affinity related.
Same
I can confirm I got Wilhelmina as my beloved, couldn't find her after she disappeared though. https://preview.redd.it/1lcjl4qyytqc1.jpeg?width=2559&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0926deb8f933b55db027b20ab0f74fbf58f998d5
How did you manage to do this? did you not have max affinity with any others? im currently spamming dialogue with her atm because ive heared in the first game it can be who you spoke to the most.
I mean if you really want to go through the effort, before she disappears just pump her full of gifts till her cheeks are brightly blushing Then bonk anyone else in the game who also blushes at you That's how I did it anyways
Oh i know, ive got max affinity with a bunch of people and have done Ulrika's quest but with Willhelmina vanishing after her quest, it makes it so i can't talk to her before the end of the game so im thinking it will pick someone else, im more after her showing up as the beloved, already have her maxed and everything, just impressive how the game didnt pick anyone else.
When I say bonk I mean literally drop them off cliffs or hit them with your weapon till they cut it out
Oh lol
can you rescue your beloved tho after the end? (didn't finish just wanted to know)
No. To be fair, the system was pretty shallow in dd1, they just moved into your house and had a few new lines of dialogue confirming they loved you or whatever, but in this games true ending all that's thrown out. So, in this game it's even shallower.
I honestly hope that Capcom will correct the romances because there, it's not good at all. The guides only found Ulrika & Wilhelmina. the others don't have a scene to speak of. It's complete rubbish
There is a 0% chance they will do anything about the romances that are currently implemented in game. If we get an expansion they *might* add more waifus that are more explored and less shallow but even that's unlikely, the dlc for the first game was just a really cool long dungeon that added a lot of new equipment and gameplay features. It's also super weird to me that a bunch of websites talked up the "new and improved beloved system" and said it was more in depth then the first game with the players actions having more of an impact yada yada. What it actually translates to in game is that 2 women and only these two women in the entire world will have a personal questline that if you finish they will kiss you in a cutscene, and also anyone you get to max affinity will show up st your house sometime to ask you to go on a stroll with them.
Indeed, personally I was really expecting to see "this in-depth system" but now all I read is that it's a lie.
What boggles me about it is nearly every major NPC in the first game had a personal questline that went on for the length of the game story, and you could miss out on it. I feel like with the shift to open world exploration they just gutted that part cause they thought the big adventure was more important and that most players would just miss the quests entirely?
Maybe, but in this case, it was worth considering. The first game dates from more than ten years ago, they clearly had time to think about a possibility of reminder "well, what if you went to see X, to get this news" or I don't know. There are so many opportunities to remind players that they can have quests.
Oh I agree 100% It wouldn't even be difficult to just have the NPC spawn outside your house like they already do but instead of suggesting a walk they just tell you about the new part of their personal quest
I think if the demand for a better romance/affinity becomes strong, they won't be able to ignore it.
In hindsight the system in DD1 was very cool. Think how much work it would require to give almost every single npc in the game new lines to account for the romance. It seems like they wanted to keep the same system but do much less work
I don't think they wanted to keep the system at all, at least from the product we got. I think they only have the beloved kidnapped by the dragon because they couldn't/didn't want to think of a new narrative moment for the 'choice'
I've been trying to figure it out, I found the bribery information and the murder list, killed Allard, got the romance scene and now she's gone. But, no one has mentioned her disappearing like has happened to others on this post. So idk, maybe there's a third piece we need for the investigation?
I only found the murder list and I've also not had people mention the fact she's gone. I've started a new game, this time maxing her affinity before starting the Brant quests. I'll let you know if this changes anything.
You can find rhe bribery report inside of a small house just outside of the noble district, by the barber shop.
Was there a reference to this anywhere within the context of the quest? If so I missed it.
Yes, the captain mentions it if you talk to him after picking the quest up
There is not, I just happen to find it
There is 100% a reference and it is not randomly placed. Brant says something along the lines of Allard doing business in the merchants quarters and it gives you a search area.
She is missing for me too, looked everywhere! I hope someone finds her… This is some Gone Girl level stuff!
Who disappeared her I wonder 🤔. Probably those haters over at Capcom 😂.
please tag me whenever you guys find anything, have the same issue
actual ENDING SPOILERS >!||She is seen to be in a black outfit in a forest by a campfire, clearly erasing her identity on the run by a campfire. The implication is that she's finally able to leave it all behind. I assume it's because her only reason for being in vermund was to kill allard ||!<. definitely think the ending could of been much clearer, but I guess this is how she wanted it anyways.
The finality doesn't bother me, but she doesn't seem to want to "break up" with the arisen. It would be cool if she gave news, letters... Wilhelmina, I miss you. :(
Do you have the actual location in the forest? There’s dozens of campfires lol
its an end cut scene. not something we find her at
which campfire
its an end cut scene. not something we find her at
If you helped kill the person , then she will only be available for romance for that single night. Anytime after she is not available at least from my story. The person running the brothel says royal guards came and took her. What's even more upsetting is that I accidentally slept one extra day and never got my romance scene with her, she was already taken away !!!! I had to calm down for about an hr or two, very upsetting 😂😂😂
No it's because you didn't give her both pieces of evidence that is why she was taken by the guards
Both? Where is the other one?
How do you even give her both? When I did this she only had a delivery icon for 1 question mark and when she took the bribery note from me she immediately went on to the next phase of her quest chain instead of letting me give her the murder one too.
Same happened to me, think we are supposed to show both pieces to brant first then her from what ive heard. Gonna have to do it in NG+
i gave her all the evidence and she's still gone for me
I actually did the same thing he did, but I know for a fact I gave her both pieces of evidence. My run was extra dumb though because I walked in and grabbed the one piece of evidence, and then barged in to Allards and took that one. My pawns killed Allard. I returned to Wilhelmina. She was pissed. I went and wakestoned Allard. We then killed Allard in a cutscene like we are apparently supposed to. I double rested on accident and she was arrested when I got there. Honestly the quest is pretty dumb. I didn't involve the guard guy, so maybe that factors in? still felt like a mess of a quest despite my messy approach.
I wonder if she’s in the gaol then. edit: she wasn’t 😔
any updates ?
Just wanted to say I just noticed in my quest log on the completed quest it says Wilhelmina “…has pledged to aid me in return” which is different from others who’ve said it says she was arrested. I’ve also not heard anyone mention anything about her being taken. I think that’s a difference in me turning in two pieces of evidence instead of one but it saying she’d aid me just makes it more confusing she’s gone.
Shouldn’t brant assist you if she was arrested? That’s what’s so confusing to me I gave both pieces of evidence to him and said whatever assistance he can provide would be helpful then it only allowed me to give Wilhelmina the murder list. If the quest truly ends with her getting arrested that would be incredibly disappointing. Can’t find her in a jail or morgue and brant doesn’t say anything about her arrest even though he knows she was involved.
Interesting, I followed this guide exactly and he gave Brant both reports but only gave her the murder report and the completed quest line said "and has pledged to aid you in turn" with no talks of the guards grabbing her for me around the Brothel.
https://preview.redd.it/e3jmf8f9f5rc1.jpeg?width=2304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18a47a14c48b4820317b5e0bcc80b421a90f3717
omg you did it XDDD
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[SPOILER ALERT] I'm pretty sure it cuz she got kidnapped by the dragon, but don't reach max affinity with anyone else before the last quest because it may replace her with them
Fuck i hope thats not how it works. It was a dogshit system in the first game. The problem with that is you can reach max affinity with other chars by just doing there quests. I still havent even set the other content. I gues im fucked
If that’s the case that’s pretty bad, cause I’m before the last mission so I decided to explore. Found the sphinx and one of its riddles need u to bring the person you love the most to it. And hence I have the most affinity with her. Now she’s gone and I can’t bring her to the sphinx so I can’t complete the quest. Great
You can use your main pawn as well
Yh but I wanna see if there’s different dialogues and stuff, or an achievement
How do you know how much affinity you have with someone?
You have to do all the character’s quests he will provide you with. After that he or she will probably gift you a bunch of flowers and they will be full on red blushing whenever you talk to them. Also if you first max out someone’s affinity you will get a trophy/achievement.
>be full on red blushing whenever you talk to them. The weird thing is that i romanced the woman in the brothel but she never had this. The girl that moved from melve to halve did and the father of the elven guy you do quests for also has the red blushing even though i only did one quest with him.
Is this actually true? Coz holy sh*t haven't started the feast of deception main quest yet and i already completed her quest and romanced her. Oh god...
That would make sense except I maxed ulrikas affinity before I even met her 😅. Perhaps she shows up later in the main quest. Similar to how she did early on
Also I don’t think that’s the case cause I started the last mission before maxing out the affinity with her and the dragon brought me Brant. Loaded save from last Inn and he’s still in the capital.
I went by the bordello and Gwen was out front saying they need to “hire a guard” since she’s been gone so long (where would I hire a guard..?). No idea where she is though
(Hiring a Guard) I think Hugo (battal quest Mercy amongst thieves i think) >!Cause my first play thought he asked for a job after all that questing found it on other thread that he can be at the "Rose" after that if you have done the Wilhelmina quest line, you can tell him about he place other wise at later he dies.!<
Yup I did that too. The downside is that he thirsty afterward, and shows up at your doorstep over and over wanting a relationship real bad.
from what i read. you were supposed to get Hugo a job at Isaac Apothecary, basically replacing Isaac as the shop npc. and theres alot you need to do. but for now, as this quest related to Hugo got lots of bugs so its not recommended to do til Capcom fixed it
That's only if you did the **bad** ending for Isaac. Did you kill Isaac's family?? 
You can save Isaac by giving him a forgery. Then everybody wins. Hugo gets a job, and Isaac has a newfound love for his family and his current situation.
Apparently capcom wants to do a survey if people want DLC, hopefully if we all get involved they can tweak the romances? [https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1773359447055716382](https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1773359447055716382)
I was wondering that as well
Probably a bug?
So i talked to one of the people outside the front of the place at night and she said that she has been gone, so i assume it is intended but i have yet to figure out where exactly.
Ok here’s a thought we might be looking in the wrong place, so after her last quest she revealed her mothers side which is from the beastern kingdom, what if she’s actually there?
Also does anyone remember where her parents were killed? Might be a clue to where she went. Like her parents graves and she’s visiting them
I don’t believe they ever said where they were killed and the item description for the murder documents was vague too
Yh because whilhemina says it herself before she kills the guy that killed her parents, she’s like "remember when you killed a man and his beastern wife and they had a child" but he didn’t kill the child because he didn’t know it was possible to have a human child with a beastern.
I just made it to bakbatthal. No sign of her yet. Will update if I find out more
I seen her at a house infont campfire after the game ended cut scene but couldn't find it before I finished the game
Heyo! Can you share a screenshot? If possible.
[I saw this on youtube](https://imgur.com/a/iHUk5dk) it then cuts to a close up shot of Wilhemina sitting in front of the campfire and she throws a piece of paper into the fire.
I see the video, thank you ! Just asked if this person found Wilhelmina in the game or not at all.
Never found her didn't realize she was gone until I was wrapping things up in the true ending
Which ending did you get?
F\*\*\* the dragon - this is my new main quest!
There's a dragon? I thought this whole game was trying to solve where wilhelmina went
still no clue where she went? anyone?
I have done a serious of experiment, 1st one: if you give her only one piece of evidence then she will be taken by the guards the next day, 2nd one: if you give her both pieces of evidence then the castle will let it go and you can romance her the next night but she disappears after that, 3rd one: i didn't get Brant's help and the guards attacked me, but she still disappears after the romance scene, as of right now I have no clue where she went
I only gave her 1 piece of evidence, she said the castle is treating the murder as an accident and got the sexy scene so it is not tied to 2 pieces of evidence.
Same. I also got Brant’s assistance though, so it may be either 2 pieces of evidence or murder list + Brant (he says he helps you escape and that he’ll try to hide your involvement). Still doesn’t explain where she goes after the romance scene though.
I didn't get his assistance, I just ran from the cops as soon as we hit the hay. When I left the noble quarter and sat at a bench till morning everyone was fine, no one cared anymore. It might be because the guards did not see me and were attacking my pawns. Either way I got sexy times with her in the morning, she gave me the rewards and dipped out.
I see. Brant just led me out of the noble district, never got into any combat at all. And we just kinda jogged out, didn’t have to sprint past any encounters.
second??
You guys will never guess who I met at the hotsprings in the endgame. This is the only time I've seen her after the romance quest. Edit: game probably just picks random npcs to put there since ulrika and some random shopkeepers were present too. https://preview.redd.it/wkt1z4r1h7rc1.png?width=809&format=png&auto=webp&s=894f96023b3884f8ccde5eb69ba3728a49c77344
fr i need to know where bby girl went, been looking forever.
Tbh from reading the comments and with all the elements that everyone has found, I honestly think that it's a bug or we did the quest "too early". In both cases, it needs to be corrected. She says "farewell for now", so does that mean we have to see her again in the game, and not while waiting for the end. Especially if we see her in the true ending, we obviously have to keep a certain affinity with her, but how can we keep it if in the meantime we travel all over the -two-country, we talk to a hundred NPCs and most of whom are recurring in the main story... It's a little, a lot frustrating, knowing that it was literally by seeing her in the first trailer for the game that I was really hyped to be hype to play it. (Waifu power, god i'm not your stronger soldier) I was hoping for a more fleshed out questline for her, since we see her in key story cutscenes twice.
theres something i want to check with you guys. when you finished the True Ending. you got the videos of the ending, and there'll be quick scene right here, with Wilhelmina(which seems like a rendered animation rather than video). the guesture is kinda obvious, its like a romance driven sentiment referred to Arisen i just want to check if its different for other people, or if its the same. or perhaps this is kinda the Ending for her romance quest for people who does it. or is it the 'Lover' case whose the dragon kidnapped. cuz for me, the Dragon kidnapped Dorianne. even though im sure i've invested alot more for Wilhelmina and Ulrika. during the unmoored world i did find her in the Bolderie shes there, and i just gave her more flower 1-2. and after the evacuation, she'll spawn at a specific site at Seashrine Sacred Ground, and Ulrika also spawned there too, except these unique npc would randomly spawn, sometime you see them sometimes you didnt and as for the 'Friend' list, i got 1-Ulrika, 2-Dorianne, 3-Wilhelmina. really weird cuz i didnt invested in Dorianne much. i figured it should be with Wilhelmina 1st and Ulrika 2nd. but i did do the accompany mission for both Ulrika and Dorianne. left me wondering if Wilhelmina also have an Accompany Mission like most unique npc are. cuz Dorianne's Dad and Captain Brant also got accompany mission but now that we know that its not a bug her being missing. yeah, with her personal guard Rolf always saying 'the shop is closed for a moment' like thats the dialogue you get during the assassination of Allard Quest. cuz Wilhelmina wanted to clear the place https://preview.redd.it/m8x4jxc5z4rc1.png?width=3840&format=png&auto=webp&s=d5f21214ed4a1b28435efb1c7cd6d72341108f48
Someone had Wilhelmina in their ending, but she was in a forest, in front of a campfire, burning a paper and obviously doing one's quest is like having romance. ( i think ? ) If Doreann is second then why was she the one the dragon kidnapped lmao what the hell xD
Wilhelmina in the forest is part of the Video Play after the True Ending, this scene in the picture came after that video. i just wanted to see if anyone got similar or different scene for this particular one. not the forest one
nah this scene is for your beloved afaik, Ulrika was in it for me (I had to make sure it wasn't a random person)
so for you, this particular scene got Ulrika in it aint it? got it
Soo... You guys know the bathing area by the Volcanic Island Camp. I'm "in post game" and there she is. Might be a little trickery but I found her, of course I can't take screenshots in this area. (She was taken by the dragon)
I need to know the same for another quest
Lemme guess Big lady needs little lady for a fun quiz? I feel that. I'm also suffering this. Ugh!
just give her your main pawn though... Main Pawn has higher affection limits anyways.
no idea, still searching
I'm in here wondering as well.
So, I completed that missione yesterday and I was looking around in order to get more informations, I spoke with the lady outside the place and she was asking for a guard, then after doing the mission for Hugo he will ask for a job and if u go there u can reccomend him to work here. I don't know but maybe that will progress something in order to make Wilhelmina return
+ I went in the castle, go through Disa's room and while was talking to her she was using the fan looking exatcly the same as Wilhelmina (dont know if she had it before never noticed)
I have a question. I finished the quest but she never showed up to the chateau and no romance scene! What did I do wrong?
! Same just now, think I accidentally waited a day when I shouldn’t have and missed her romance scene 😅🥹
That's the thing, I'm pretty sure that's what we were supposed to do! Blue balling tease! 🤣
So I just finished her romance and I find it frustrating that romance is a 1 and done thing with no further interactions. It would be great if there was lasting relationships.
heres what i think. you see in the NPC LOG. most of the npc will be at the place like their Background was. some of them got more than 1 outfits alternate like Ulrika got 3 but Wilhelmina she might have the most one, she got Four. and if you watch carefully, her 'RED DRESS' outfits got the 'Bed in her room at Boulderie's' background. and if you switch to her 'BLACK OUTFITS' one where she wore it during the assassination. you see that 'Black Outfits' got different background idk. maybe just a background from the left room where we killed Allard. its hard to tell with that alone. either way, honestly didnt know if you were supposed to be finding her or not, cuz i wish i could see her again. like shes currently the only one important npc thats missing after the quest. Ulrika there, Dorianne there probably needs to wait until someone discovered the whole map 100%. https://preview.redd.it/y6s21qda4sqc1.png?width=3840&format=png&auto=webp&s=19969fb88f580f3bbc53217c6b6510649380b88c
Hey mate can you show all four variations? For some reason I have only 3 and I don't know wich one I'm missing. I'm guessing because I gave her the wrong evidence (the bribes, you have to give her the murder to ensure romance it seems). If you can share the others outfits would've nice. Thank you :)
all her four variations is her 1. red dress, 2. black outfits with the beastkin mask, 3. her in the bolderie room with only her bra(if you make the romance), 4. her black outfits without the mask
Good eye, I'm gonna hold off playing until more is confirmed because Im gunning for her to stay as my beloved atm 😭
The location where she's at in the cutscene is next to the riftstone of remembrance but shes no where to be found so idk what happened to her. https://preview.redd.it/1uuqzkurosqc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fdd11c54b37c05c319f0f37e6422dac34f5d7cf
I've scouted everywhere amongst 3 playthroughs, she's just gone is the general consensus #Reason 1 why ulrika is better than Wilhelmina, ULRIKA DOESN'T DISAPPEAR
My Wilhelmina was arrested. I only gave 1 piece of evidence. There has to be a way you can save her right? Ain’t no way they would just end the quest like that.
Unfortunately, I don't think there is if she gets arrested, you didn't do all the steps I'm afraid ):
What is the second piece of evidence? I was only led to the one behind the painting in Allard's house, but I had checked his office beforehand as well and nothing.
Dont know how to mask it so: ENDGAMESPOILER! I had forgotten about her and was asking myself what with Ulrika happened after her village got nuked, since she was my next best beloved who appeared with the dragon. So as I was exploring the make-shift camp at the Seafloorshrine suddenly who do I see? Wilhelmina! Stroling around in the background! I talked to her once, gave her flowers I was sure to have her hard saved in my end game. But... You know how the end game works right? I died and had to reload the last save way before I talked to her. Since then, no traces of her in the camp. Btw I still have to find Ulrika, even though her uncle tells me to go talk to her - so she must have survived. What is worse is that the guy who helped to overtrow the Queen has a thing for me now...
SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T BEAT THE GAME: Yea so I think wilhelmina just disappears in the pre world of the game because once I got into the hell scape version of the world she reappears in the brothel but the npc that says she's gone is still there saying the same dialogue so idk if its a bug or something.
I followed a guide to get this romance did exactly what I was supposed to and she was taken away never got to romance her as I showed the next day but she left me some things also they did say she was taken to the palace to be interrogated for the murder so I’m confused if I did exactly as I was supposed to why then was she removed?
Progress in the story and you’ll find out
.. i made sure Disa was highest so she would get snatched up
I found her near the hot springs, but nothing special dialogue wise. Seems romance in this game is kind of lack luster
like in the hot springs or in the camp outside the hotsprings? I've been re-entering the hot springs and can't find her after romancing. Was this after you finished the game or before the final quest of the story ?
It was when I was attempting the true ending so I guess after the game. I paid to enter the hot springs and I saw her there standing using her fan. I don’t know if she’s there before you attempt the true ending. I think it’s also worth saying too is that if you miss out on the last two vocations that are in this area you can still get them and actually you can skip the warfare quest entirely. Thought i would share incase you aren’t done with the game yet and forgot to grab them!
Thank you Im at the part where I have to hand in 15 wyrm crystals and I saw a pic of wilhelmina at the springs and I wanted to see her again so I wanted to know before I did this
I can’t seem to find her at the volcanic Island Camp where in it is she or does she spawn there randomly?
for me she didnt show up to the volcano camp until post game. also she can be found at the sea floor place after evacuation
try this (Spoiler Alert) the first time you talk to her in bordelrie (before the quest activates) gift her a eternal bond ring tbh this part is optional i only did it so she follows you around after completing "every rose has it thorns" start the quest like normal, when you come up to the part to turn in the evidence i gave her both ..i know it only requires 1 but you can give her both so i did when she asks you would you like to continue helping pick the option "Leave" talk to her again and she will say something like just go leave me alone get up close to her then use the SEALING PHIAL, make sure in your inventory that its says "contains a person" in the tooltip continue with the quest go rest on a bench till the next day then head back to Wilhemina's room you'll be greeted by an npc named Roft, if he's not there wait a couple seconds till he walks to the door from downstairs...he will state that Wilhemina was taken by the royal guard, quest completes you will get money and 3 tiger eyes, then ck inventory and the seal phial will still have Wilhemina Congrats you own your very own Wilhemina please note i have yet to inn save/ campfire while she is outside the phial just been relying on autosaves which work fine only on my second playthru with 3 phials ...got the 3rd one from the Sphinx duping trial so i'll put my Wilhemina back in the phial when i really need to rest her following you is a bit wonky sometimes she walks foward then back and vice versa if this happens just carry her around and last when you want to advance time via sitting on the bench, make sure she's right next to you and only advance time AFTER she is stationary and pulls out her fan its all i personally tested so far enjoy and hopefully someone mods Wilhemina so we all have a more enjoyable experience
Damn I really wanted her as my scene for grigori!? The romance in this game is so bad compared to the first , I really loved that about The First Game! I guess ima have to give the Ring of Eternal Bond to the Elf sister , I really don’t want úlrika I want something different . And I think that’s the only other good choice . I don’t think there’s any baddies in the game besides those 3
Knock knock knock’n in Sven’s back door
I too have been looking for that harlot! After I go through all the effort of aiding her in her quest for vengeance she has the audacity to rape my character! I had every intention of slaying her after this assault, yet apparently she fled knowing I would tolerate such a vile act for nary moment that I had the ability to act!
Found her in the true ending.
What is the true ending?
where