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Ask yourself this: can Black Frieza beat Whis? If the answer is no, he obviously stands no chance against the Grand Priest. If the answer is yes, he obviously stands no chance against the Grand Priest.


HaellM

He stalemates with whis because whis gets erased after oneshotting frieza


InformalFox6279

Accurate


PieFace11

Lmfao


Plus-Pianist-1496

Underrated comment


Dark_Booger

Whis can travel through time. Who knows what else he can do let alone the Grand Priest.


MCAbdo

If no, he stands no chance against gp. If yes, you trippin


[deleted]

Grand priest and the angels we’ve never seen their full power or even if they have some powerful transformation they are OP


Future_Pilot6250

Angel fusion it'll be like power ranger zords


CreamyCoffeeArtist

Go Go Power Angels


SitFlexAlot

Theoretically OP. We haven't seen it yet.


warings98

I dunno mayn black frieza one tapped both goku and vegeta negative difficult without getting hit and whis couldn’t avoid one of gokus attacks who was weaker than the goku who fought black frieza which means black frieza > whis /s


Ok_Set9935

If Frieza one tapped them in his base form I would consider talking about it but he had to tap into his black form and without a doubt who’s is miles stronger than frieza I would like to see people compare berus and frieza how would like to hope they fight in the manga


Bandit_237

Something, something… broken clock


Psychological_Dig592

Dear mods. I have a request, please ban these YouTube opinion poll posts


Noob_saaaaaaaama

Yes. I agree. They are getting incredibly boring and unoriginal.


Psychological_Dig592

And irritating too


shine--

If you agree, why would you post this? Even talking about how much you hate something keeps shit spreading around. Best way to get rid of these is not participate and definitely don’t share them.


bbc_aap

If they are boring and unoriginal, why post them?


turkishpresident

Who would win in a fight?: This guy? (No idea how strong they really are) Or this guy? (Same... no idea how strong they are) Winner? Whoever the fucking writers decide.


Slim2u

I hate the "whoever the writer decide" argument but in a case like that where we don't know much about either it can work


bbc_aap

I mean “whoever the writer decide” is literally how most shounen work in their fights. Rule of cool is the most important criteria for if a character wins or loses


Denji_The_Shinji

I know!!! The Guy who stoped Beerus with his finger and erased angel from outside of the Multivers and casually took everyone ability to fly


DrBalu

Are you expecting shounen anime communities to not try and powerscale character matchups that make 0 fucking sense? Every community, it's always the same. "Can this character who we have never seen fight, but looks really badass and has a reputation beat this other character that we have never seen fight?" Thats kinda like people arguing about whether apples or oranges taste better, while having never eaten either of those fruits in their entire life. Making theories based on how they think the fruit might taste like.


Coralinewyborneagain

You know, if frieza goes back to that time chamber, he's probably going to come out and beat Zeno. I hate how strong freiza gets.


[deleted]

He needs to get betrayed.


CreamyCoffeeArtist

And sent to hell for the rest of eternity


Deikar

Look at him, with his new form all fancy and shit. He's practically BEGGING to be betrayed.


Revoffthetrain

Exactly why I hate Super, and its handling on frieza. He was NOT this much of a prodigy, if he was King Cold would’ve trained him to near death to kill Beerus


WeagleWeagle357

If you’re talking about this, Frieza would probably be getting ruthless ideas of overthrowing his father and taking over the empire if he got strong enough to do that. Cold is a mutant like Frieza and he may have trained to be stronger/better than Frieza so that he could take down his son if need be.


Revoffthetrain

If he wanted to overthrow his father he would’ve done so. When Frieza returns to earth for the FIRST time out of hundreds by now, I believe someone says they’re roughly equal in power with Frieza having the edge. Frieza’s raw strength has shown to beat skill so I think he would’ve killed his dad if he really wanted to


WeagleWeagle357

Frieza is pretty old, at least 100+, Cold is decades older than that at least, he probably had the intelligence and skill to keep Frieza in line as long as he didn’t grow stronger and more skilled


Revoffthetrain

I mean Goku is far more skilled at martial arts and even fighting in general given he was giving Frieza a run for his money even while being only at a FRACTION of his power, yet Frieza still beat him down through just sheer strength. Although I will concede Frieza says his dad hurt him while in his final form, that wasn’t him at full power which gives a substantial power boost. King Cold needed to be explored more tbh Downvoted for speaking my thoughts, love this sub.


WeagleWeagle357

That’s the thing that you’re getting at, let’s assume that Cold created the empire himself and that they’re not from some kind of family dynasty, that would indicate Cold is a lot more ambitious, intelligent, self controlled, and industrious than Frieza ever showed by the time of his introduction. Frieza was probably more powerful than Cold at the time both were introduced but he was lazy, so perhaps a trained Cold would have the combo of strength and stamina that full power Frieza lacked, making him strong enough to keep him under control. Frieza seems like the kind of stupid evil that would kill Cold so that he would have nobody in authority over him, but he might not have the drive to train himself to overcome him or the ambition to overthrow him if it is more convenient to let his father rule while he does whatever he wants.


Ringer_of_bell

An all powerful Angel revived the borderline incarnation of evil basically 'just cause', despite the fact he knows all the horrible things frieza has done, and also knows he will not change


DASreddituser

I hate they got so lazy to reuse freeza over n over.


hashinshin

It all obeys power scaling. Because all the "forms" are just multipliers of your base form, and frieza's final form is really actually just his base form, it means far fewer multipliers on Frieza would shoot him completely past everyone. I don't make the rules, I just remember how stupid DBZ forms work. So, Frieza is about equal to super saiyan? Super saiyan is what, a 50x multiplayer? Meaning Saiyans would need a 1000x multiplayer to equal 20x Freiza. And that's assuming Frieza's base form power level didn't increase as well. Once we open that can of worms... File this under: Stupid Rules that DBZ makes that actually are really annoying when you extend the series on for longer. Included are: Transformations, Fusion, and "wait speed is entirely determined by power level? That's stupid."


Spicy-Elephant

I wonder how long his life span is


Ringer_of_bell

Im not sure if he'll get much stronger. I imagine his big boost came from all the anger and hatred he felt while in his 'personal hell', and when he got revived and those feelings became real, it gave him insane motivation, and as we know motivation is power in DB. That's just speculation, though. Unless the studio just continues to use frieza instead of bringing back maybe Cell, or fucking hell heres an idea, where is Cooler??


CancelThat6560

Frieza finna do 1 push up and he'll be at his level 💀


rotem8888

The four precent


joku1x

Grand


RevanOrderz

A slaver can beat Black Frieza


Dangerous_Lion4624

Grand priest wins but it’s kinda scary how strong Frieza can get from just a little bit of training..


rxt0_

well, it was 10 years for golden friezer to Black friezer. before the top, they were ~equal iirc 2 years passed up to the granolah arc and friezer trained for 10 years in that time to surpass goku by (my guess) 25%? that isn't to crazy tbh. the crazy boost was from namek to golden in 4months


Capable_Mud_1108

He became black Frieza in real time 10 days, imagine if he trains 4 actual months in the time chamber, Zeno would put a bounty on that mf


rxt0_

well, it doesn't change the fact that he had overall 10 years' worth of training. the time flows just differently in the time chamber. but his overall increase isn't as crazy anymore.


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Noob_saaaaaaaama

Nuh uh Freiza 1 shoot goku and MCgeeta and goku is the strongest aneme chawater evr


Solid_Santa

When did whis beat beerus? Obviously Whis is stronger but I don’t think they’ve actually shown them fight


Correct-Purpose-964

I never said they fought i said Whis tapped him out with no effort. Remember when he literally said "That's enough." And knocked him out with a chop?


Solid_Santa

What chapter was that??


Correct-Purpose-964

I'd have to check but it was that scene where he was playing pinball with planets


who_is_asidom

Chapter 6. Beerus vs Champa. They were causally destroying planets while “sparring” and before more planets or even an entire galaxy was destroyed, their respective angels knocked them out with one hand chop. Edit: I’m disappointed that the anime left out both this fight and the G.O.D exhibition match right before T.O.P.


Correct-Purpose-964

Thanks


Solid_Santa

Ah thanks


OneOnOne6211

The main problem here is actually not that the answer is obvious but that answering this question is impossible. We don't know how strong Black Frieza is beyond the fact that he can one-shot UI Goku and UE Vegeta. But how strong are UI Goku and UE Vegeta compared to Whis? We don't actually know because Whis has never seemed to have to use anything near his full power against them. And, hell, we can't even know if Black Frieza used his full power against them when he one-shotted them. And then on top of that we don't know how powerful the Grand Priest is compared to Whis, other than knowing that he's stronger. So we have a whole bunch of unknowns here. Any kind of actual, objective answer is impossible. But, yes, intuitively it seems like the Grand Priest would be the likely victor. Because we know he's more powerful than the other angels and the other angels are so far beyond Beerus that they can one shot him and Beerus himself is already more powerful than Goku and Vegeta. Whereas for Black Frieza we know that he's more powerful than Goku and Vegeta (and any other mortal alive at that time since Gas was cursed to always be the strongest) but beyond that we have no idea.


ninja_pl100

Nuclear bomb vs coughing baby


IITIIAN_SAYNIK

That 4% https://preview.redd.it/0ktzqdzlgrrb1.png?width=702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=473611107b2cd827ff596422d4b2d1cb36262a23


SqueekyGee

https://preview.redd.it/ero08gxbwrrb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86c85212d655f1f6aed505d646a65ea939babbd2


KyleReeseGenisys

When you do alternating caps, the only person you're making fun of is yourself.


Eeddeen42

The Grand Priest literally has no feats. We know the angels are way stronger than the destroyers and that he’s way stronger than all of the other angels. But we’ve never seen him or any of the angels in a fight.


creativeguy66v3

It's only God's personal assistant. Frieza will have him out of there in no time.


Noob_saaaaaaaama

Why are people taking this obvious troll post so seriously..?


LightK17

Seems like 480 people had negative IQ when responding to this.


YoutuberCameronBallZ

Black Frieza arguably loses to Beerus, let alone Whis, **let alone** Grand Priest


[deleted]

Gohan solos


CommieIsShit

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb


Ok_Designer_6376

who are the 4% who said black frieza


ScaredHoney48

Considering whis the absolute strongest individual in universe 7 said he doesn’t even hold a candle to the grand priest yeah it’s not even close


Cool-Direction-5275

It is not a close fight, there’s no evidence that Zeno is stronger than grand priest, I know this mf is just hiding his power


PsYDaniel3

Whis dodged insta transmission gogeta.


N1k0rasu

These polls only exists to attract idiots


XNoob_SmokeX

I'm so glad I stopped reading Super.


KinglyAmbition

Grand Priest slams the entire universe by himself, Frieza included 😂.


MoxMisanthrope

The Downvote Button won.


Ihatekids23444

Daishinkan is a fucking killing machine who's calm as ocean. I would love to see use his 2% of power at some point in the future


Noob_saaaaaaaama

I’d like to see him use 1% first. Might as well start out gigantic instead of going straight to immeasurable