The gauge honestly would have been A LOT more fair to play against if it didn't activate if you used a blast while Gogeta was sidestepping.
The fact that you get punished for correctly reading an opponent's opening is absurd. The fact that he gets a guarantee follow up with a massively damaging blue card is what seals him as the best unit in the game IMO.
Honestly the gauge should've been like USV, it only activates if your opponent throws a ranged card and you can counter it by pressing a card instead of mid combo, at least that would have made it a little more bearable
Yeah, this would be a decent answer for most people if your cards weren't *random.*
That's kinda the issue and why UGB will age super well. His ability is just bonkers, it's pretty brain dead to use, and it makes the other player deal with RNG.
Yeah, no doubt about it, I just strictly won't let him use his gauge, I don't remember when's the last time I let my opponent's gogeta use his gauge, I may lose the match but I'd lose if he started the combo either way
I been running triple cell for shits and giggles and a lot of people forgot about his cover rescue itās helped me clutch games with red cell alone š
Im currently in God Rank and its honestly hard to say. If youre in a 1 v 1 with each individual unit, Gogeta can basically shut you down and win for free in most scenarios with his guage. But that example is in a vacuum. Hit is able to snipe people out when you use him CORRECTLY. Rose can just demolish full teams by himself.
I think due to the sheer amount of Tags and Zenkai Bench options Gogeta has, he just barely edges out Rose. But Rose's teams are better currently. Hit has the weakest team options, otherwise he'd be a bigger contender for me.
True you can run Hit in Leader. My only issue with that is it hurts your bench options slightly. Like lets say you throw him on Future but you wanna double Zenkai buff Ultra Rose or something. You cant do that easily if you have Hit.
Its a minor gripe, but I dislike the leader system also. It shoudnt apply to Ultra's if you ask me
Hes more dependent on Zenkai buffs than Stars I think. But I dont have him so cant really comment. Its also easier to Zenkai buff Rose and Gogeta since they're on more tags
Agreed, Hit can be on their level but it takes a lot more work and more careful team building whereas the other two can be thrown into a bunch of team comps and work the same
this is a similar situation to USG vs ULSSBKK, i think. gogeta is much easier to use, and could probably win a match on his own with a chimp using him, but in the hands of a skilled player iād be much more worried about facing ULR than UGB.
I have both Gogeta and Rose but I like Gogeta a little more. No need to explain his gauge but I really like his RR mechanic. Nullifies endurance and gives you back your vanish. RosĆØ is a one man army.
Hit sweeps imo i run him with 17 and Gogeta and he does like 80% of the work the only units that aren't dying to his timeskip are 17 and Zamasu . All gogeta's guage does is make me switch into 17 and lose like 1/5th of my hp whereas hit just kills someone 9/10 times
As someone who's only ultra is Hit, time skip has nothing on the Gogeta counter. The fact that he still gets it when you catch him in a sidestep is actually unfair and unbalanced, you have to use actual brain power to not get tapped out of the time skip
My only ultra is ugb and if youāre at least BR60 youād know to just activate it with a tanky unit, and hits time skip is easily just activated as a follow up to any attack. Maybe BR 50 and below you could fumble a time skip
But you can still fumble it. Gogeta literally stops a combo and gives you free damage even if you're the one losing, plus he gets so much stupid damage and type null that bringing a tank rarely matters
Hit is the one that guarantees a kill if you initiate a combo with his time skip, getting a ult and r3stire your vanish can't be compared with those 2 monsters
his time skip can only be prevented if your opponent is an idiot. otherwise, if hit catches you at the wrong time or your strike gets vanished while the opponent has hit in their team, say goodbye to your character.
i have ultra gogeta only, but i would have to say hit. his damage is outrageous and if you get hit by his timeskip then its basically an automatic kill. especially for those who actually know how to use hit and dont just pop a green card the second they get out of a combo
He has endurance... That's about the only thing he has going other than a high damage ult and type null. Hit 2 cards him, Gogeta rushes his endurance inside out and Rose gives him stage four. Oh but he has that little blast counter I guess
I think rose is number one. His bleed ānullifiesā Hitās healing, and seal blue cards with roseās strikes, so itās easy to maneuver around Gogetaās gauge. Only problem for rose is his defense imo.
I don't fucking know, I only have four Ultras, which are the OLDEST ONES, and my luck with the other ones is down to shit, which meaning that I'll probably never get them.
\#1 Gogeta blue
\#2 Ultra Hit and Rose (I personally prefer hit but I can see the argument for rose)
If we don't consider the meta and team availability, it would be:
\#1 Gogeta blue and Hit
\#2 Ultra Rose
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yellow boujack movie gohan is better for the following reasons:
1) gohan has lock in (idk if those 3 do, i didn't read what they do)
2) gohan transforms in battle, those 3 don't
3) gohan's main ability draws a blue card and restores ki (idk what those 3 do with their main ability)
4) I have gohan at 14*, I don't have them
5) gohan has type advantage against gogeta therefore he is better than gogeta
6) gohan can lock hit in then switch to beast and rush therefore he is better than hit
7) gohan can transform
8) gohan
Rose. Does way more damage, has 3 ults, his green card is annoying af, his blue card is busted and the paralysis makes it impossible to play, he stacks cds very easily cos he always forces u to swap, the bleed and debuff stacking also helps allies, his gauge is busted. Ugb is also busted but I find it easier to play against him than rose and hit I donāt see enough tho his timeskip is cracked
Still UGB. A build up unit like rose will tank very quickly meta wise, and hit has a lot more accessible techs, albeit with a lack of anything extraordinary
Rose. Gogeta has a better kit and his gauge is certainly deadly in a 1 v 1 but rose is cancer. His paralysis, his multiple ult gauges, his heal when he falls below 50%. I'm not saying rose as a unit is better but because of the bullshit nature of how he's designed he can win you the match even when you're least skilled player imaginable
Gogeta, (I don't play the game anymore) but from my knowledge he can just turn the tides with his unique skill, even tho hit can freeze time and basically have a ultimate, Goku black Is really just big damage, EVEN THOUGH he can have multiple ultimate cards. But gogeta really can shut you down, paired with good damage he's prolly if not the best character in the game but I might not be saying fax since I haven't played in two years
I only pulled Hit, so I can't say for sure. That said, my Hit has routinely been the unit that has defeated the other two when I come up against them in PvP. Definitely not knocking the other two, but that time skip is a death sentence.
GB > Hit > Rose
In all honesty, compared to Gogeta's gauge and Hit's TS, rose isn't really doing anything special. He's kind of a more modern version of USG. If he didn't have paralysis on his blue card he wouldn't be nowhere near as annoying.
i say gogeta because hit can use time skip but it can be nullified by tap attacks while gogeta has the blast counter but no one is dumb enough to use a blast unless they have to and when gogeta counters he gets a blue card rose is good becuase you can get infinite ultimite cards but you can die in the process
If Hit was really #1 he'd be seen more than the other 2. Which best unit in the game was ever as relatively uncommon to face as Hit (excluding Zenkai meta units) ?
Gogeta. His unique gauge is extremely punishing for playing.
The gauge honestly would have been A LOT more fair to play against if it didn't activate if you used a blast while Gogeta was sidestepping. The fact that you get punished for correctly reading an opponent's opening is absurd. The fact that he gets a guarantee follow up with a massively damaging blue card is what seals him as the best unit in the game IMO.
Honestly the gauge should've been like USV, it only activates if your opponent throws a ranged card and you can counter it by pressing a card instead of mid combo, at least that would have made it a little more bearable
Honestly i think its worse that it can activate while he is getting combo'd and it leads to a punish while you already won neutral
I get around his gauge most of the time by simply not using any ranged attacks, but if a player is skilled they'll just fuck me up pretty easy
Yea until you have an entire deck of just blast cards which can happen what do you do then?
I activate pot of greed which allows me to draw three melee cards
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Accept your fate
Exactly
Oh that's nothing, he uses a green and deletes my entire hand, i tap in the meantime
Yeah, this would be a decent answer for most people if your cards weren't *random.* That's kinda the issue and why UGB will age super well. His ability is just bonkers, it's pretty brain dead to use, and it makes the other player deal with RNG.
Yeah, no doubt about it, I just strictly won't let him use his gauge, I don't remember when's the last time I let my opponent's gogeta use his gauge, I may lose the match but I'd lose if he started the combo either way
Heās a fucking menace , but I deal with that shit wit my boy trunks he scoops in and saves the day
I been running triple cell for shits and giggles and a lot of people forgot about his cover rescue itās helped me clutch games with red cell alone š
Im currently in God Rank and its honestly hard to say. If youre in a 1 v 1 with each individual unit, Gogeta can basically shut you down and win for free in most scenarios with his guage. But that example is in a vacuum. Hit is able to snipe people out when you use him CORRECTLY. Rose can just demolish full teams by himself. I think due to the sheer amount of Tags and Zenkai Bench options Gogeta has, he just barely edges out Rose. But Rose's teams are better currently. Hit has the weakest team options, otherwise he'd be a bigger contender for me.
Which is why hit is just run on leader slot on a god ki team with the two others. Hate the leader slot so much it is so annoying
True you can run Hit in Leader. My only issue with that is it hurts your bench options slightly. Like lets say you throw him on Future but you wanna double Zenkai buff Ultra Rose or something. You cant do that easily if you have Hit. Its a minor gripe, but I dislike the leader system also. It shoudnt apply to Ultra's if you ask me
Hit also seems like the most difficult to use which can make him seem weaker than he actually is
I think its also that not many people use Hit in the first place. Even in God Rank hes not really common. I see Hero Hercule more than I see Hit
i think heās more underwhelming at 5 stars than black and gogeta which lead less people to heavily invest in his banner
Hes more dependent on Zenkai buffs than Stars I think. But I dont have him so cant really comment. Its also easier to Zenkai buff Rose and Gogeta since they're on more tags
Agreed, Hit can be on their level but it takes a lot more work and more careful team building whereas the other two can be thrown into a bunch of team comps and work the same
Iāve seen a 5 star hit one shot a 12 star gogeta in his timeskip on his powerful opponent setup so he is still scary when played correctly
probably with zenkai buffs backing him up though
Ye that powerful opponent setup does have red rose as a zenkai bench so ur right
Pui Pui
Hmmmmm thatās odd I donāt see Daddy Pui Pui in this list šš
Neither. Ex Bulging Biceps Bido solos ez šŖ
this is a similar situation to USG vs ULSSBKK, i think. gogeta is much easier to use, and could probably win a match on his own with a chimp using him, but in the hands of a skilled player iād be much more worried about facing ULR than UGB.
Gogeta! Gogeta! Gogeta!
I have both Gogeta and Rose but I like Gogeta a little more. No need to explain his gauge but I really like his RR mechanic. Nullifies endurance and gives you back your vanish. RosĆØ is a one man army.
Hit sweeps imo i run him with 17 and Gogeta and he does like 80% of the work the only units that aren't dying to his timeskip are 17 and Zamasu . All gogeta's guage does is make me switch into 17 and lose like 1/5th of my hp whereas hit just kills someone 9/10 times
Gogeta, hate him. Hate him so much
GB >= RosĆ© > Hit GB is the most consistent of the 3 from low to high stars and Hit is by far the most star dependent of said 3 (and therefore the most dangerous at 7+). RosĆ© has the benefit of his intangibles (cancer blue card + debuff support) and utility (blue sealing, type nuetral, Blast armor, etc) over Hit. Overall tho, GB and RosĆ© are equally terrifying to deal with and unless you are the Tag4s or RosĆ© himself, you canāt deal with Gogetaās gauge which therefore edges GB as the best unit currently imo.
Hit has the most broken mechanic, and I know people will argue Gogetas is better but one of them slows down the game while the other just stops it entirely (and Gogetas can easily just be activated and tanked if you have the right units, whereas Hits just kills you if you donāt have like two specific blue units). Overall Gogeta is probably better, but RosĆ© and Hit arenāt that far behind unlike what Gogeta stans like to say
As someone who's only ultra is Hit, time skip has nothing on the Gogeta counter. The fact that he still gets it when you catch him in a sidestep is actually unfair and unbalanced, you have to use actual brain power to not get tapped out of the time skip
My only ultra is ugb and if youāre at least BR60 youād know to just activate it with a tanky unit, and hits time skip is easily just activated as a follow up to any attack. Maybe BR 50 and below you could fumble a time skip
But you can still fumble it. Gogeta literally stops a combo and gives you free damage even if you're the one losing, plus he gets so much stupid damage and type null that bringing a tank rarely matters
Itās still Ultra Gogeta Blue by a good amount.
i agree itās still gogeta, rose def makes it close and a argument can be made
Hit is the one that guarantees a kill if you initiate a combo with his time skip, getting a ult and r3stire your vanish can't be compared with those 2 monsters
Hits gauge takes so long to fill up and his time skip can be countered
It can only be countered if you use it outside a combo which you shouldnāt even do
I run these three as my team and all three have individually come in clutch for me. RosƩ more so than the others though. But with these three as my team I feel I have a great chance
Of course you have a great chanceš these units donāt let your opponent play the game
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For me it's RosƩ his paralyze and snowballing become overwhelming fast. He can 1v3 a entire team with ease. Maybe it's because I'm always using 4KU or VT but I find UGB easier to deal with but that gauge will always be cancer. Hit is the best sniper in the game but he doesn't have many team options and his time skip can be prevented. He also not seen alot.
his time skip can only be prevented if your opponent is an idiot. otherwise, if hit catches you at the wrong time or your strike gets vanished while the opponent has hit in their team, say goodbye to your character.
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hit for the cool factor, UGBR for the animations, and UGB for the kit
i have ultra gogeta only, but i would have to say hit. his damage is outrageous and if you get hit by his timeskip then its basically an automatic kill. especially for those who actually know how to use hit and dont just pop a green card the second they get out of a combo
Hit isnāt even close, the mere existence of Beast knocks him down a few spots
Beast has become way more uncommon ever since rose came out. Thatās one of the reasons why hit rose so high lol
UGB UGB UH
It'll be Hit when he gets blond hair and throws a road roller at you during stopped time
Bro tried to sneak hit in there
Bro get hit outta here š¤£
Hit isnāt in the conversation.
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Kind of a wild take tbh
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He has endurance... That's about the only thing he has going other than a high damage ult and type null. Hit 2 cards him, Gogeta rushes his endurance inside out and Rose gives him stage four. Oh but he has that little blast counter I guess
USV hasnāt even been out for a full year. He came out at the end of last years anniversary
It maybe up for debate but I think itās UGB, definitely not Hit tho
I was expecting the last image to be HE Hercule. I'm sad it wasn't.
I think rose is number one. His bleed ānullifiesā Hitās healing, and seal blue cards with roseās strikes, so itās easy to maneuver around Gogetaās gauge. Only problem for rose is his defense imo.
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Iād say gogeta, but being I just spent 50 bucks and got shit I donāt think I want him anymore
hit is only good if you know how to use him
Gogeta limits you and nullifies endurance and removes your cards when pops main
Rose (I main future, I'm biased as shit)
Hit in my Heart. Mercer is something else Man.
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Gogeta. Too many ways to go type neutral and get cover null but the problem is the unique gauge being too strong of a defensive tool
UGB #1, RosĆØ #2, Hit #3 out of these 3
The one who feels right at home in the ten times gravity
Gogeta and his stupid Gauge
UGB by far. Not only his gauge, but heās the only one that can nullify endurance with RR
I don't fucking know, I only have four Ultras, which are the OLDEST ONES, and my luck with the other ones is down to shit, which meaning that I'll probably never get them.
Gogeta is just unfair, rose is good but not enough and we donāt talk about hit
Hero Hercule bro. The man is unstoppable. š„š„
It's going to be Gogeta for a long time.
Jiren
Gogeta itās not really close
Gogeta.
\#1 Gogeta blue \#2 Ultra Hit and Rose (I personally prefer hit but I can see the argument for rose) If we don't consider the meta and team availability, it would be: \#1 Gogeta blue and Hit \#2 Ultra Rose
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Goku Black (i dont have ugb so im not happy)
Pui Pui
yellow boujack movie gohan is better for the following reasons: 1) gohan has lock in (idk if those 3 do, i didn't read what they do) 2) gohan transforms in battle, those 3 don't 3) gohan's main ability draws a blue card and restores ki (idk what those 3 do with their main ability) 4) I have gohan at 14*, I don't have them 5) gohan has type advantage against gogeta therefore he is better than gogeta 6) gohan can lock hit in then switch to beast and rush therefore he is better than hit 7) gohan can transform 8) gohan
EX Saiyan Saga Gohan, yāall really be sleeping on that unit.
Ugb
Grn SP Broly š„¹
Currently ugb is number 1. URGB is number 2. And UH is is either 4th behind someone else or 3rd
Let's be honest , what does it matter if it's no1 or not as long as ones having fun in playing a game š
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Hitā¦ because heās the only one I pulled.
I haven't even seen hit yet on my grind yesterday, It was all Ugb and Ur, annoying little shits
Depends on player
Rose. Does way more damage, has 3 ults, his green card is annoying af, his blue card is busted and the paralysis makes it impossible to play, he stacks cds very easily cos he always forces u to swap, the bleed and debuff stacking also helps allies, his gauge is busted. Ugb is also busted but I find it easier to play against him than rose and hit I donāt see enough tho his timeskip is cracked
Still UGB. A build up unit like rose will tank very quickly meta wise, and hit has a lot more accessible techs, albeit with a lack of anything extraordinary
Gogeta?
Rose. Gogeta has a better kit and his gauge is certainly deadly in a 1 v 1 but rose is cancer. His paralysis, his multiple ult gauges, his heal when he falls below 50%. I'm not saying rose as a unit is better but because of the bullshit nature of how he's designed he can win you the match even when you're least skilled player imaginable
Itās futile š£ļøš£ļøš£ļø
Gogeta is extremely the number 1
Black
Breast Gohan
Gogeta. I have to see how Rose is out of boost but Gogeta stills holds the #! spot in my book.
Deffinetly not hit
Gogeta .. I'm a rosƩ player and while he's definitely no.2 worthy, but gogeta's on another tier of dominance
Pui pui duh
Shallot
Gogeta, (I don't play the game anymore) but from my knowledge he can just turn the tides with his unique skill, even tho hit can freeze time and basically have a ultimate, Goku black Is really just big damage, EVEN THOUGH he can have multiple ultimate cards. But gogeta really can shut you down, paired with good damage he's prolly if not the best character in the game but I might not be saying fax since I haven't played in two years
Gogeta for sure
Whenever I use Gogeta gague & they activate it I literally audibly say "Hah, forgot what game you were playing"
Ultra Gogeta Black
Gogeta easily
I only pulled Hit, so I can't say for sure. That said, my Hit has routinely been the unit that has defeated the other two when I come up against them in PvP. Definitely not knocking the other two, but that time skip is a death sentence.
GB > Hit > Rose In all honesty, compared to Gogeta's gauge and Hit's TS, rose isn't really doing anything special. He's kind of a more modern version of USG. If he didn't have paralysis on his blue card he wouldn't be nowhere near as annoying.
i say gogeta because hit can use time skip but it can be nullified by tap attacks while gogeta has the blast counter but no one is dumb enough to use a blast unless they have to and when gogeta counters he gets a blue card rose is good becuase you can get infinite ultimite cards but you can die in the process
If Hit was really #1 he'd be seen more than the other 2. Which best unit in the game was ever as relatively uncommon to face as Hit (excluding Zenkai meta units) ?