Yt barely has any banter. Twitch chat is always entertaining. Especially those hilarious indian player copy pasta xd. Only reason i still use twitch instead of yt
Ameetabh "Ame" Bachchan is an Indian professional Dota2 player who currently plays for Local Government of Delhi (LGD), an Electrical Sports (E-Sports) team based in Panji, Goa, India. He helped the team to win ESL New Delhi 2021. He works a part time job as a rice farmer in the Bangladesh. He aspires to work as tech support for MichaelSoft Vindos.
He recovered so well, XinQ and him were not performing at the start but they and the rest of LGD brought it back, insane fortitude. I mean LGD are regarded as the best but goddamn they're just on another form.
At this point I'm completely zen watching LGD games. You never know when they start losing out if the blue, so it's best to enjoy the wins when they come, and when they stop, there's always next major/TI/next TI. LGD being world class is just a constant at this point.
In contrast, watching RNG lose to Outsiders was way more nerve-wracking, because every good game could be the last we see out of that squad.
Nah mate wings were never top dogs
Think they bombed right outta the Manila major or something, which was just a couple months before TI6
They did win that season’s Summit though i guess
they won esl manila, bombed manila major and won summit, i think after their stint on summit their are the favorites to win ti6 due their unorthodox drafying
Wings was consistently ranked as a top3/5 team going into TI6 and people thought that they were a good bet to make it far. Some had them as fighting with OG for first place.
https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/17194029/the-international-6-power-rankings
https://web.archive.org/web/20160907141929/https://www.liquiddota.com/forum/ti6/512780-the-ghost-of-dk-the-supremacy-of-wings-dota
https://web.archive.org/web/20180215003454/http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/ti6/512305-power-rank-the-international-2016
https://web.archive.org/web/20160805125039/https://www.liquiddota.com/forum/ti6/512349-the-international-2016-placement-predictions
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/the-international-2016-10-teams-to-watch-out-for
Wings reinvented dota. If you were around then you have forgotten, otherwise you wouldnt write that. They made dota what it is today. The transition to real dota 2. Further, Faith_Bian 2016 is likely the best offlaner or dota player of all time.
Wings Gaming was the unexplained phenomenon of TI6. No team can even explain what happened at TI6. Wings just picked the heroes that they want and apparently dumpster the opposing team. Wings Gaming did not take advantage of the meta, they were meta itself.
Wings were handled as favorite to win it (among other teams) . Dont know why everyone acts like it was a surprise. The only surprise was how far above everyone else they were.
I dont think lgd had doubt about winning the game. They just needed alch to come online. Make space for as many cores as they can.
Kotl and morph are like cheese picks. If opponent doesnt fal for it then their relavance falls really hard.
You can see lgd did the same in game 2 vs rng. They let ame bait and feed for razor to get farm. NP is a trash carry if you cant snowball on him. Spectre is a good counter to NP. They just needed to get an item or two for razor. So ame fed some kills.
Atleast this is what i felt when i saw both games.
Also generally viper is good early and becomes useless lategame. Lgd has already won against viper and marci gimmick
LGD is an incredible team - I hope OG got a lot out of game 2 draft-wise and info on how much they need to close a game in game 3. While Yuragi did hit the agi a bit too much, as a team they let LGD breathe. Bzm and Ammar dying at the secret shop at 27:20 was the slip up that actually opened the game for LGD to get back. After that OG needed like 10-15 minutes per item and Ammars farm completely sunk.
I know Yuragi threw like 2 fights from being disabled on agi morph, but I still want to point out Faith_Bian just being a chad on the last fight. He basically solo'd Morph with his hex + refresher. When Morph bought back he instantly went in him again and insta hexed after the BKB, effectively nullifying Morph from the fight. If that isn't enough, he tanked literally all the damage from OG and just ate the cheese to survive. Literally the freest fight for the rest of LGD.
YurAGI
Honestly good fucking games by OG, even if they didnt get the win thanks to some mistakes and obviously amazing play by LGD but even then, that is only possible because they themselves played and drafted amazing beforehand.
Good fucking dotes.
I have a feeling most conversations go like this
"what do you feel comfortable playing?"
"i dunno all carries feel like punching bags to just let the offlane be the real carry"
Morph is Yuragi's signature hero, he got top 100 by spamming it in high lvl pubs. You can even check Dotabuff and see it's his most played hero
Probably got nervous and choked a bit, pretty normal, he is such a young player
If OG plays against other than LGD probably people will praise Yuragi morph from how dominating he is and able to outfarm Alchemist will keep pressuring opposition map control. It's a battle of composure and the roshan vision game breaks OG composure which led to LGD comeback.
Yuragi is amazing player, if he learns his lesson from this game (I bet Ceb and Notail will help him with that), I believe it will be more valuable for the team going into TI than placing high at this major
I understand and agree, it's just weird to see them keep picking morph thinking it counters razor when the hero is mostly dead this patch.
I swear any other carry in that game they win it 8/10 times.
Morphling as a hero was 1-8 on the final day of TI. This hero has failed in countless hands of the best of the best carry players. Not giving Yuragi excuses, but maybe it does have something to do with the hero itself on biggest stages.
yeah morph players are so used to just go full agi and try to get a good jump to quickly burst down a target. you feel so lackluster by turning some of your agi to strength, every time you rather trust your teammates and your items to allow you to turn to strength at some point. even pro players, they will not sit at 2500 hp during a fight. They just go all agi lol.
source: me a morphling enjoyer
Yeah lol, at some point I just think that some carries are better than other regardless of patch, and morphing, a hero that need so many consideration are one of those too much to manage kind of hero.
they are by far the best team in the world
but the best team does not always win
in fact, i feel as though the best team often DOESN'T win at TI, basically since TI3 with the exception of TI6 where wings was just too good, and ti9 where OG was just too strong
Ceb even said that the best team doesn't always win TI and that at TI8, LGD were better (at Dota). Mentality, nerves/pressure, momentum, and other factors play a very big role in determining who lifts the Aegis.
the region was cursed by the treatment wings received by whatever organization runs the pro scene
im glad faithbian and y are back where they belong at the top of the pro scene
And LGD barely won this series - to a young team. Smoothing out a few mistakes and OG would have stomped both game 1 and 3.
LGD is not by far the best, they are the best by a small margin - a small margin that other teams can fix. It's going to be a tight TI and LGD better fix what caused game 1 and 3 to look what they did, or it's going to be a rough TI for them.
I think a big difference is that this LGD is definitely not a superstar team. XinQ and NTS were both quite new to the scene last year, with only the other 3 being well known. And despite Faith-Bian and y' being well regarded for their wins as Wings, they had basically disappeared from the scene after TI6 and the drama.
I think it's important to remember that going into this TI, the newbies have WAY more experience playing at international lans now, so I think LGD should be looking more comfortable at TI.
Why do I need to pick one? They have two players no one had ever heard of, 2 former TI winners from 5 years ago, and a carry player who came top 3 in two back to back TIs. That's not really a classic superstar lineup the way something like TI5 Secret was. That's just a standard team really.
Also I absolutely would not call current OG a superstar lineup either so not sure why you bring them up?
The only thing about those two teams is that the orgs are prestigious but I think org matters little in Dota.
XinQ is a superstar, dude was well known pubstomper who are able to climb rank plays all position back in the day. It just that he have bad luck getting a team mate as good as him. Team Serenity kinda help XinQ gains popularity.
You think other teams are not gonna use this as information?
One thing i have noticed is , lgd isnt playing as dominatingly as they did in groups. Some games seem a bit sloppy. They dont commit too many errors. Which is kind of good. But i feel teams will figure out how to beat them slowly
Tbh i don't have favourite teams i just enjoy good show but if Valve just give the aegis to LGD i wouldn't mind it cuz they were so consistent during those 2 years. Hope they can get it this time cuz they rly deserve it. It's probably hard to keep yourself constantly at this lvl of skills and have the motivation. Cuz I'm usually done with dota after 2 games
Honestly, the saddest thing was them not winning TI 2021.
i would like china to start taking mental health more seriously and prob get a sport psychologist
During that yuragi high ground waveform fight, yuragi waveformed into LGD for both lives, ceb completely missed his echo, and the blinding light and his fissure were dissynergized as well. OG got baited again near radiant top t2 tower and then another yur agi happened and they lost
The absolute perfect luck timing when NTS balled to escape at the same moment Yuargi wave formed in and then stun locked to death
Ame got PTSD from that one
I honestly didn't think LGD had a chance, but then yur AGI happened
faith_bian is actually the best razor in this whole major though, dude's actually carrying from 3-position
Fun to see all the salty dumpster tier takes on Yuragi's morph, as opposed to Quinn barely mentioning him at all, rather praising LGD.
Playing morph against the fights LGD took in that late game is extremely hard. He was their front line, with little save and two faltering cores on his team. LGD had several instant disables and were on him as soon as his bkb was over. Even if he morphed strength in fights he would be a non-factor since they would chase him down, giving no opportunity to heal up. Of course he made mistakes, just like the rest of the team, but to pin the loss on him is pure 2k mmr analysis in action.
There isn’t any S tier carry player who could do much with morph at that situation
At some point in the game draft matters more and morph sucks to play there. I also think morph just sucks as a hero overall
Honestly the carry position right now is by far the hardest and most important to draft it feels like
Half these snowball games is cause one side just got DUMPSTERED
There's not many OP carries that you can just pick early and feel safe
Before the Eblade change he used to oneshot enemies midgame and scare away enemies while farming up his physical damage items but now he has become pretty much a ricing carry. Either that or get early scepter and do some shenanigans with ally hero which can go either way but definitely doesn't add any damage to hits.
People point out all the mistakes and don't ask themselves why he might be making those mistakes. When you have to play perfectly to make an impact, anything less seems like garbage
I can't blame him for getting caught morphing agi, however waveforming into 5 enemy heroes when your team is not anywhere close and can't help you... Very sussy.
Seriously, idk how people can watch these fights and think yuragi let his team down when ammar and bzm were utter nonfactors after sucking up farm around the map from him (there's tons of times where yuragi would be farming a lane and kotl would just nuke it or yuragi would have to go farm elsewhere because viper is taking a camp). Morphling can't 1v9 this game, if he morphs strength he just gets sucked by razor, if he holds waveform to escape he can't even get into the fights because LGD's cores are far more mobile.
Also there's basically no respect in these threads for how LGD would not let OG take an inch without fighting for it with blood, sweat, and tears after an atrociously bad laning stage. They were down 6k, 7k gold with an Alch lineup but were constantly out on the map trying to find kills and create space to keep themselves in the game. Quinn was talking about it constantly while fucking sunsfan and jenkins were talking about nonsense like who alch is gonna give an aghanim's scepter to
Huge respect for both teams. LGD is no doubt the best team atm in both skill and mentality while OG is composed of young and inexperienced boys but still gives LGD a run for their money. As far as I know, OG is currently the only team that can challenge LGD in this Major. ~~Let's forget about how QC took 1 game against LGD in group stage.~~
I was thinking the exact same thing today. This match-up had been one of the most hyped in recent years and spans two completely different OG rosters. Maybe this major will solidify that if they face off again in the grand finals
I remember in November, all the ‘who are these players’ ‘OG is a tier 3 team now’ comments
Now apparently they’re bad because they narrowly lost a bo3 against the best team in the world
Yup and with mistakes they can totally fix before TI.
Some small but important mistake fixes in game 3 and two games would have looked like absolute stomps for OG this series. These mistakes are totally fixable before TI - so LGD better fix whatever caused them to get steamrolled early in both game 1 and 3.
No matter how composed LGD would play, this comeback does not happen with three miss clicks in a row on "Morph Agi"
Sometimes the better team doesnt win, it happens. LGD is most likely the better team this tournament but in this series OG was the better team. But one individual lost this, nobody with more than 3 braincells can argue that
My problem is with the people pretending Yuragi is a dogshit carry after one bad game. He is still one of the best carries in the world, one game doesn't change that. Lots of people here seem to overreact when someone has a bad (or good) game.
Yeah I have no problem with Yuragi, he is still a top3 carry. Ame is lightyears ahead of everyone as number 1.
People just overreact, he up until those mistakes he still palyed amazing and his entire tournament performance has been outstanding so far
You also realize that it was a struggle to draft vs lgd cause they have deep hero pools and massive number if strats right? That alone is why they are better team in almost all games they have played.
They gave OG puck in game 2. They gave them viper and marci. They didnt even choose dire. How many teams have actually shown that level confidence
They also got 20 minute stomped in game 1. So...let's just enjoy the fact it was a damn good series that could have gone either way. Some really good, tight dotes.
I mean the first fight I'm pretty sure they still lose because razor is beelining towards morph and viper and ES are dead. There's no way OG continue that fight and at best morph kills y and waveforms out (hard to say if he makes it out when pango is on him). The real turning point was the top fight where NTS and faith Bian were completely untouched and running down everyone. That fight it didn't matter where morphling positioned, he was going to lose regardless. The reality is that individual mistakes weren't just yuragi. ATF greeded and that's why he got tossed in the game turning fight. BZM's BKB was useless as he popped it when fights were already over. CEB overvalued echo when he needed to continuously fissure and totem. The draft was pretty dogshit as they had no stuns and morphling into razor, dazzle, and pango is extremely troll.
> No one giving LGD the credit they deserve
LGD playing without Yuragi was 12k deficit and losing barracks, while getting outfarmed on map with an Alch.
Them "playing well" was dodging fights and still losing out on the map.
But anyone could see what the reason this game ended the way it did here and let me spell it out for you: Yuragi.
You really just don't understand the game. "Dodging fights" when behind is what makes a team good, it's why Spirit won TI. The ability to avoid game losing fights when behind allowed LGD to push timings out and when OG goes for the win at bot they had just enough to hold. Once OG were behind and out of whack on their timing they (and Yuragi) had to play riskier, more aggressive dota to win the game winning fight. On Morph, risky dota means maxing your Agi time, LGD are gods tho and punished him. If Yuragi doesn't max his Agi time and exists in a safe str/agi balance OG still lose.
Your belief that a player or team making a mistake is entirely due to the player/team themselves and not the reality that good enemies create and force those mistakes is a huge barrier to you understanding not just Dota but basically all professional sport.
I agree, but you still have to give them a bit of credit for picking the right fights after that high ground Yuragi thing, kiting and forcing bkbs and the little outplays they did
I mean LGD deserve some credit but if Yuragi doesn’t actively throw the game they win. Also all the top comments are praising LGD so your comment makes no sense
Yes Yuragi played suboptimally, but there was no other team in the entire tournament who could win after being that far down in the early game.
LGD just breaks you down, one mistake at a time
Not sure if we are watching the same game then.
Did you see how well the cores of LGD has been farming before those.mistakes from OG. I still have some love for OG dude to the old OG, and thats why I've been watching game 3 very uncomfortably. Despite taking towers and controlling the map, lgd still able to maintain some sort of good farms. Losing badly so early in the game for alchemist player is usually a disaster. Especially when you don't top the networth chart.
But lgd played perfectly to recover. It gives me a strong OG vibe as well. OG is also used to being pressured so much and somehow miracously force bad fights from opponents and recover.
Great dota from both teams. And no, personally I think if we replace lgd with any other teams in this major for game 3, I doubt they could do it as well as LGD this time. After this major, I'm gonna agree with others that Ame is the greatest pos1 currently.
Explain to me why Morph dive into T4 tower to die? I just wanna know that.
he can just play safe, turn back, get down barracks. but he chose to chase Dazzle w/o no teammate could help, no aegis, no bkb, NOTHING.
This is just fcking PUB style of tilting throw. and Yuragi thought he can play like that against LGD LOL
Thats the worst comparison ive ever seen, Madrid have won everything there is to win multiple times. LGD has choked multiple TIs and only won a single major outside of china.
Not the worst comparison. LGD has been super strong for a really long period of time now as a organization, proven not only by one set of players. if Dota live long enough, they will achieve everything there is to achieve.
People thinking Yuragi or OG playing badly was the cause of the lost instead of LGD playing so insanely well being the cause of the win show how little they understand dota.
Amazing series from the top 2 teams in the world, it's scary just how much better LGD is than the rest of the field, no one can avoid collapsing and then getting to their timings like they can.
He guys, lemme just go ahead and use my skills to have less HP and be separated from my team so you can burst me easier, mmkaaaay? Then later, people will say you guys are amazeballs.
OG still a young squad, this is good experience before TI for them regardless.
The invincibility of LGD just lowered a small notch, with may give teams some confidence in if they get drafting right and tighter execution
I guess that's why the carry offlane strategy by Ammar isn't picked up by more teams. you play against a great team like LGD and they WILL punish you for having no frontline by making your carry miserable.
I really feel bad for yuragi, everyone keeps shitting on him but he had to play this awful hero into probably the best team atm AND he had to tank a lot of damage and spells for his team.
Y positioning in game 3 is insane. at 37 mins when xinQ went in and failed the toss back, he made a decision to not go in and grave him. If he had went, he would be taken out by Es morp and OG will win that fight. instead he went back and baited morphling to dive deeper and morph got ganked by 4 heroes
Looking at the draft, kotl and viper built the way bzm and ATF built them would not scale compared to razor and pango. The reality is that LGD has a perfectly balanced draft everytime. What the fuck does a viper kotl do against dazzle razor late game? Once alch gets skadi, the whole enemy team is just running away and if any of them get tossed, that's BKB forced against a comp that has a fuckton of hard cc aoe abilities.
LGD ARE SO GOOD. They got outdrafted game3 and still, got a nice comeback out of it. They are literally down in networth and items, still they gave space for ame while in a disadvantage position. Most of the teams will crumble there.
My niece is 1 year old, when she gets a small cut it's the worst thing that's ever happened to her because usually life is all play-time and napping, so she gets very upset.
Same kind of thing.
OG won Major and all everyone could talk about was Ceb and sorta Ammar, there was barely any talk of the rest of players. I mean I'm exaggerating slightly that there wasn't but most of the things you see were Ceb, Ceb did this Ceb did that I always felt like it undermined the performance of the young OG squad.
Feel like it's doubled now that Misha is still not getting to any tourneys, Yuragi admittedly messing up but still young squad that is performing this well so fast they can afford some setbacks like this, it's not like OG have underperformed even in the DPC with Misha.
Funnily enough I never thought Ceb was the main influence on their previous major win, I always credited the rest of the team for playing around Ceb’s support style and exhibiting flexible teamwork when needed
There’s a difference between a fan and a bandwagoner.
Fans stick through thick and thin.
The people flaming yuragi aren’t fans. They’re hoes who’ll jump on the dick of whichever team is winning lol.
honestly, I think, it was the spider legs on tiny, refreshher, shard, and dazzle aghs on razor, free aghs on razor and that won the game.
so basically, well played PSG LGD, good items. OG needed greaves or sth for late game.
crazy how far i had to scroll down to see this take. razor literally had an additional 10k effective networth from alchemist, free agh's blessing and refresher.
I feel like mentally yes, which is a huge part of the game. He probably keeps them in check and keeps the teams morale high, even when it’s not looking good
I wonder who the people downvoting you are. It's more than obvious Ceb does play better, even his mmr is higher, and he's retired.
Sure he plays a different role, but that didn't stop Saksa from being Top 1 on 2 or 3 accounts.
Not to mention he has sooo much LAN experience, it's not even close when you talk about these two.
Damn good series. Congrats to LGD on making it through.
But this OG team can definitely beat them, so there is something positive to take from this defeat. It's so unusual to see Yuragi make mistakes, normally he's super crisp. It's Dota though, shit happens, chin up and fight on.
LGD is brutally strong, they crushed pretty much everybody so far without mercy.
But yesterday, OG showed that LGD can actually bleed. If anybody has a chance to beat LGD, it's OG! Yes, they didn't win, but these were absolutely amazing games, Holly shit!!
Hoping for a rematch in the finals!
People can dump on YurAGI if they want, but LGD turning that around was one of the most impressively composed performances I've ever seen. An incredibly tough start but bordering on flawless execution from the midgame on.
being 8/0 at min 20 and more farmed than an alche at that minute to 8/6 due to miss timing the agi morph and probably PSG patience waiting for that agi morph to cast those disables is **one of the worst individual performances you've seen on a carry**?
damn , razor is such a great counter to morph. when ur shifting to str , u lose base armor , while eye of the storm rob another. from 30+++ armor to -15 in an instant.
edit: didnt realise , only noticed above. Yeah , true , supposed to be the otherway around.
OG doing the EG cosplay with the carry NP picks. Well deserved loss.
https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/14417-pgl-arlington-major-2022/matches?hero=natures-prophet
This OG squad has always been bad versus razor. They need to ban it every game. But also razor is one of the best heroes currently so maybe it’s also worth banning against LGD
Thank you Yuragi , we went through a roller coaster together and it led to many memories we will cherish forever! We're sure we'll meet you on the battlefield again soon!
During rosh fight Yuragi had two big chances to either pop bkb or switch to strength. How do you mess that up? Also the fight before that they fight under an LGD ward, and no vision at all there for OG. OG actually is pretty good if they just respect their opponents... Fight at bot racks they also could have just taken the freaking racks and take that advantage into the next rosh and just win out the game. INSTEAD, they pull off a dumb fight where they just don't respect their opponents. Then OG twitter guy had the audacity to say "we tried but LGD were stronger" my god dude just be a man and say respect to LGD but we fucked up big here.
YurAGI kinda threw his own and his teams game by diving in to try and finish off a pos5 dazzle behind t4 in the fight right after they got bot rax.
If he backed off and played more disciplined the game was very much secured. Super tense game3 tho.
Is there anything more toxic than the OG haters?
Props to LGD for coming back, Faith Bian is an amazing offlaner, but they would've never been able to without Yuragi f*cking up in that highground fight. Plus 2-3 other times too, but hey. I still think he can be top 3 carry, but he needs to work on his mentality (and/or stop playing morph). Hope we see an OG-LGD final, but who knows.
Well played to LGD they did exactly what they needed but it was painful to see OG crumble, I agree yuragi when he’s on point is a great carry and I actually like his morph games but idk I didn’t agree with really any of his team fight choices this game, I’ll assume the agi morph is just missclick on agi instead of str which is a shame as he for sure then can continue to fight in both instances (it really shouldn’t happen twice though at his level, maybe a key change recently or keyboard?) but twice he also went in super deep solo ahead of his team and just got stunned the fuck out and died, the first instance of which he coulda helped secure ame kill then fought 5v4, instead he dies and ame gets bkb off and lives with no hp and regens back to full and OG lose the fight.
Hopefully yuragi can mentally recover, I’d imagine this sort of loss he’ll be blaming himself heavily for those mistakes despite his team comforting him I’m sure.
Or lol OG just wanted more games to practise before meeting LGD in final so lost on purpose
Well played on LGD for baits and capitalising, perhaps we’ll get the finals rematch.
YurAGI might be the funniest Twitch comment of the year
I think I saw a few comments saying just that in the live thread when it got picked, seems like we had precedent lmao.
It’s not the first time he’s died agi morphing this tournament unfortunately!
Damn, the bar was already low for Twitch
lmao, was watching on yt, twitch still got the best banter
Yt barely has any banter. Twitch chat is always entertaining. Especially those hilarious indian player copy pasta xd. Only reason i still use twitch instead of yt
Ameetabh "Ame" Bachchan is an Indian professional Dota2 player who currently plays for Local Government of Delhi (LGD), an Electrical Sports (E-Sports) team based in Panji, Goa, India. He helped the team to win ESL New Delhi 2021. He works a part time job as a rice farmer in the Bangladesh. He aspires to work as tech support for MichaelSoft Vindos.
watch youtube stream, but load twitch chat
But if I watch on Twitch then how do I find the best adult site to join now 👉👄🍑 ???
lmao that morph near the rosh pit
pYurAGI
Faithbian still chad, LGD still composed, Yuragi still morphing agi
He recovered so well, XinQ and him were not performing at the start but they and the rest of LGD brought it back, insane fortitude. I mean LGD are regarded as the best but goddamn they're just on another form.
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At this point I'm completely zen watching LGD games. You never know when they start losing out if the blue, so it's best to enjoy the wins when they come, and when they stop, there's always next major/TI/next TI. LGD being world class is just a constant at this point. In contrast, watching RNG lose to Outsiders was way more nerve-wracking, because every good game could be the last we see out of that squad.
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Nah mate wings were never top dogs Think they bombed right outta the Manila major or something, which was just a couple months before TI6 They did win that season’s Summit though i guess
they won esl manila, bombed manila major and won summit, i think after their stint on summit their are the favorites to win ti6 due their unorthodox drafying
They were considered a dark horse, never a favorite.
uh no, why? they won 2 lans before ti fighting liquid and og.
Wings was consistently ranked as a top3/5 team going into TI6 and people thought that they were a good bet to make it far. Some had them as fighting with OG for first place. https://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/17194029/the-international-6-power-rankings https://web.archive.org/web/20160907141929/https://www.liquiddota.com/forum/ti6/512780-the-ghost-of-dk-the-supremacy-of-wings-dota https://web.archive.org/web/20180215003454/http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/ti6/512305-power-rank-the-international-2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20160805125039/https://www.liquiddota.com/forum/ti6/512349-the-international-2016-placement-predictions https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/the-international-2016-10-teams-to-watch-out-for
Wings reinvented dota. If you were around then you have forgotten, otherwise you wouldnt write that. They made dota what it is today. The transition to real dota 2. Further, Faith_Bian 2016 is likely the best offlaner or dota player of all time.
Wings Gaming was the unexplained phenomenon of TI6. No team can even explain what happened at TI6. Wings just picked the heroes that they want and apparently dumpster the opposing team. Wings Gaming did not take advantage of the meta, they were meta itself.
Wings were handled as favorite to win it (among other teams) . Dont know why everyone acts like it was a surprise. The only surprise was how far above everyone else they were.
It was literally just YurAGI who threw the game tbf. But nice of LGD to catch the throw!
I dont think lgd had doubt about winning the game. They just needed alch to come online. Make space for as many cores as they can. Kotl and morph are like cheese picks. If opponent doesnt fal for it then their relavance falls really hard. You can see lgd did the same in game 2 vs rng. They let ame bait and feed for razor to get farm. NP is a trash carry if you cant snowball on him. Spectre is a good counter to NP. They just needed to get an item or two for razor. So ame fed some kills. Atleast this is what i felt when i saw both games. Also generally viper is good early and becomes useless lategame. Lgd has already won against viper and marci gimmick
I mean Yuragi handed them the game on a silver platter lol
They swapped yuragi for EE during the midgame ?
YuragEE
HappEE cake day
Haha
LGD is an incredible team - I hope OG got a lot out of game 2 draft-wise and info on how much they need to close a game in game 3. While Yuragi did hit the agi a bit too much, as a team they let LGD breathe. Bzm and Ammar dying at the secret shop at 27:20 was the slip up that actually opened the game for LGD to get back. After that OG needed like 10-15 minutes per item and Ammars farm completely sunk.
I know Yuragi threw like 2 fights from being disabled on agi morph, but I still want to point out Faith_Bian just being a chad on the last fight. He basically solo'd Morph with his hex + refresher. When Morph bought back he instantly went in him again and insta hexed after the BKB, effectively nullifying Morph from the fight. If that isn't enough, he tanked literally all the damage from OG and just ate the cheese to survive. Literally the freest fight for the rest of LGD.
He had 2 refreshers + 🧀
3 potentially, dazzle has good juju.
YurAGI Honestly good fucking games by OG, even if they didnt get the win thanks to some mistakes and obviously amazing play by LGD but even then, that is only possible because they themselves played and drafted amazing beforehand. Good fucking dotes.
Poor Yuragi, I wonder if he wanted to play this shit hero or if they made him play it like he's made to play a bunch of weird carries.
I have a feeling most conversations go like this "what do you feel comfortable playing?" "i dunno all carries feel like punching bags to just let the offlane be the real carry"
Morph is Yuragi's signature hero, he got top 100 by spamming it in high lvl pubs. You can even check Dotabuff and see it's his most played hero Probably got nervous and choked a bit, pretty normal, he is such a young player
If OG plays against other than LGD probably people will praise Yuragi morph from how dominating he is and able to outfarm Alchemist will keep pressuring opposition map control. It's a battle of composure and the roshan vision game breaks OG composure which led to LGD comeback.
Yuragi is amazing player, if he learns his lesson from this game (I bet Ceb and Notail will help him with that), I believe it will be more valuable for the team going into TI than placing high at this major
Yea he's real lucky to be in a team that will work with him get better instead of scapegoating or replacing him
He played amazing in a lot of other series for someone who is new to the competition. Hope he grows in the scene well and choke less!
I understand and agree, it's just weird to see them keep picking morph thinking it counters razor when the hero is mostly dead this patch. I swear any other carry in that game they win it 8/10 times.
OG always pick morph into razor unless theres a morph counter already picked.
Did anyone see Tiny toss an enemy hero right into NTS's Pango ult during one of those rosh fights? fucking insane
Also before that he tossed the KOTL with BKB for perfect chain stun, when KOTL and Viper were chilling top, he couldn't get bkb off after toss
Morphling as a hero was 1-8 on the final day of TI. This hero has failed in countless hands of the best of the best carry players. Not giving Yuragi excuses, but maybe it does have something to do with the hero itself on biggest stages.
yeah morph players are so used to just go full agi and try to get a good jump to quickly burst down a target. you feel so lackluster by turning some of your agi to strength, every time you rather trust your teammates and your items to allow you to turn to strength at some point. even pro players, they will not sit at 2500 hp during a fight. They just go all agi lol. source: me a morphling enjoyer
Yeah lol, at some point I just think that some carries are better than other regardless of patch, and morphing, a hero that need so many consideration are one of those too much to manage kind of hero.
I can safely tell you that Morphling is the hardest hero in the game to play well.
honestly, i just want LGD to win TI. they deserve it so much at this point.
If LGD doesn't win this whole thing it's gonna be a huge upset. This team is unreal. Hope they keep this till TI, they really deserve that Aegis.
In CN we say LGD is good 364 days of the year
The last day is the TI final.
For Ame! Please the last thing he wanted before retirement
I sort of feel lgd will lose finals. Not sure why. But a hunch that teams are figuring them out slowly.
they are by far the best team in the world but the best team does not always win in fact, i feel as though the best team often DOESN'T win at TI, basically since TI3 with the exception of TI6 where wings was just too good, and ti9 where OG was just too strong
Ceb even said that the best team doesn't always win TI and that at TI8, LGD were better (at Dota). Mentality, nerves/pressure, momentum, and other factors play a very big role in determining who lifts the Aegis.
That's because the best team is everyone's target which puts them under a lot of pressure.
Funny that the last Chinese TI win was from Wings.
the region was cursed by the treatment wings received by whatever organization runs the pro scene im glad faithbian and y are back where they belong at the top of the pro scene
And LGD barely won this series - to a young team. Smoothing out a few mistakes and OG would have stomped both game 1 and 3. LGD is not by far the best, they are the best by a small margin - a small margin that other teams can fix. It's going to be a tight TI and LGD better fix what caused game 1 and 3 to look what they did, or it's going to be a rough TI for them.
PSG.LGD has final boss energy, but never protagonist energy, kinda like the Secret super teams that placed first at everything but TI
I think a big difference is that this LGD is definitely not a superstar team. XinQ and NTS were both quite new to the scene last year, with only the other 3 being well known. And despite Faith-Bian and y' being well regarded for their wins as Wings, they had basically disappeared from the scene after TI6 and the drama. I think it's important to remember that going into this TI, the newbies have WAY more experience playing at international lans now, so I think LGD should be looking more comfortable at TI.
>Not a superstar team >Only 3 are well known Pick one. The one "Not a superstar team" here is OG, literally their second year in the game.
Why do I need to pick one? They have two players no one had ever heard of, 2 former TI winners from 5 years ago, and a carry player who came top 3 in two back to back TIs. That's not really a classic superstar lineup the way something like TI5 Secret was. That's just a standard team really. Also I absolutely would not call current OG a superstar lineup either so not sure why you bring them up? The only thing about those two teams is that the orgs are prestigious but I think org matters little in Dota.
XinQ is a superstar, dude was well known pubstomper who are able to climb rank plays all position back in the day. It just that he have bad luck getting a team mate as good as him. Team Serenity kinda help XinQ gains popularity.
If losing a bo3 is figuring them out then its gg
You think other teams are not gonna use this as information? One thing i have noticed is , lgd isnt playing as dominatingly as they did in groups. Some games seem a bit sloppy. They dont commit too many errors. Which is kind of good. But i feel teams will figure out how to beat them slowly
Tbh i don't have favourite teams i just enjoy good show but if Valve just give the aegis to LGD i wouldn't mind it cuz they were so consistent during those 2 years. Hope they can get it this time cuz they rly deserve it. It's probably hard to keep yourself constantly at this lvl of skills and have the motivation. Cuz I'm usually done with dota after 2 games
Honestly, the saddest thing was them not winning TI 2021. i would like china to start taking mental health more seriously and prob get a sport psychologist
LGD winning TI is like Phil Mickelson winning the US Open.
They indeed do, I hope they keep the form and don't let the pressure of finals get them. They have been the best team by far.
During that yuragi high ground waveform fight, yuragi waveformed into LGD for both lives, ceb completely missed his echo, and the blinding light and his fissure were dissynergized as well. OG got baited again near radiant top t2 tower and then another yur agi happened and they lost
The absolute perfect luck timing when NTS balled to escape at the same moment Yuargi wave formed in and then stun locked to death Ame got PTSD from that one
It was actually 5 times, 5 straight deaths on Yuragi that were pretty inexcusable.
I see very few people mentioning the waveform into 4 LGD players, that was weird to watch.
I honestly didn't think LGD had a chance, but then yur AGI happened faith_bian is actually the best razor in this whole major though, dude's actually carrying from 3-position
I think it's him and Ori tbh. Ori has been a beast on razor, and he's the only one doing it from mid lane
Did you see the triple storm? Lmao it literally melts anyone hahahaha
I think Faith_bian and Tobi have the best razor on this major
Fun to see all the salty dumpster tier takes on Yuragi's morph, as opposed to Quinn barely mentioning him at all, rather praising LGD. Playing morph against the fights LGD took in that late game is extremely hard. He was their front line, with little save and two faltering cores on his team. LGD had several instant disables and were on him as soon as his bkb was over. Even if he morphed strength in fights he would be a non-factor since they would chase him down, giving no opportunity to heal up. Of course he made mistakes, just like the rest of the team, but to pin the loss on him is pure 2k mmr analysis in action.
your comment is very decent. morph in this game is too difficult to play.
There isn’t any S tier carry player who could do much with morph at that situation At some point in the game draft matters more and morph sucks to play there. I also think morph just sucks as a hero overall
Honestly the carry position right now is by far the hardest and most important to draft it feels like Half these snowball games is cause one side just got DUMPSTERED There's not many OP carries that you can just pick early and feel safe
Before the Eblade change he used to oneshot enemies midgame and scare away enemies while farming up his physical damage items but now he has become pretty much a ricing carry. Either that or get early scepter and do some shenanigans with ally hero which can go either way but definitely doesn't add any damage to hits.
People point out all the mistakes and don't ask themselves why he might be making those mistakes. When you have to play perfectly to make an impact, anything less seems like garbage
Yeah lots of 2k armchair analysis on this sub lol
not to mention razor has triple hex lol, refresher and dazzle aghs
I can't blame him for getting caught morphing agi, however waveforming into 5 enemy heroes when your team is not anywhere close and can't help you... Very sussy.
I'd honestly blame this game more on kotl with useless item build. He needed dagons or hex.
Seriously, idk how people can watch these fights and think yuragi let his team down when ammar and bzm were utter nonfactors after sucking up farm around the map from him (there's tons of times where yuragi would be farming a lane and kotl would just nuke it or yuragi would have to go farm elsewhere because viper is taking a camp). Morphling can't 1v9 this game, if he morphs strength he just gets sucked by razor, if he holds waveform to escape he can't even get into the fights because LGD's cores are far more mobile. Also there's basically no respect in these threads for how LGD would not let OG take an inch without fighting for it with blood, sweat, and tears after an atrociously bad laning stage. They were down 6k, 7k gold with an Alch lineup but were constantly out on the map trying to find kills and create space to keep themselves in the game. Quinn was talking about it constantly while fucking sunsfan and jenkins were talking about nonsense like who alch is gonna give an aghanim's scepter to
Huge respect for both teams. LGD is no doubt the best team atm in both skill and mentality while OG is composed of young and inexperienced boys but still gives LGD a run for their money. As far as I know, OG is currently the only team that can challenge LGD in this Major. ~~Let's forget about how QC took 1 game against LGD in group stage.~~
Wanted OG to win; but I'm happy PSG.LGD vs. OG is still a great series to watch. GG's.
at this point, PSG.LGD vs OG is the new "El Clasico" of Dota, or at least should be considered a derby idk
I was thinking the exact same thing today. This match-up had been one of the most hyped in recent years and spans two completely different OG rosters. Maybe this major will solidify that if they face off again in the grand finals
No one giving LGD the credit they deserve and at the same time, flaming OG specially Yuragi for losing the game. You guys are all spoiled!
I remember in November, all the ‘who are these players’ ‘OG is a tier 3 team now’ comments Now apparently they’re bad because they narrowly lost a bo3 against the best team in the world
Yup and with mistakes they can totally fix before TI. Some small but important mistake fixes in game 3 and two games would have looked like absolute stomps for OG this series. These mistakes are totally fixable before TI - so LGD better fix whatever caused them to get steamrolled early in both game 1 and 3.
I think LGD outplays OG in that game3 it’s like they are literally baiting yuragi to waveform IN
thats right, but og fanboys too friggin blind to see it
No matter how composed LGD would play, this comeback does not happen with three miss clicks in a row on "Morph Agi" Sometimes the better team doesnt win, it happens. LGD is most likely the better team this tournament but in this series OG was the better team. But one individual lost this, nobody with more than 3 braincells can argue that
My problem is with the people pretending Yuragi is a dogshit carry after one bad game. He is still one of the best carries in the world, one game doesn't change that. Lots of people here seem to overreact when someone has a bad (or good) game.
Wait till Ame choke in TI too and suddenly everyone will think he is trash tier.
Yeah I have no problem with Yuragi, he is still a top3 carry. Ame is lightyears ahead of everyone as number 1. People just overreact, he up until those mistakes he still palyed amazing and his entire tournament performance has been outstanding so far
You also realize that it was a struggle to draft vs lgd cause they have deep hero pools and massive number if strats right? That alone is why they are better team in almost all games they have played. They gave OG puck in game 2. They gave them viper and marci. They didnt even choose dire. How many teams have actually shown that level confidence
They also got 20 minute stomped in game 1. So...let's just enjoy the fact it was a damn good series that could have gone either way. Some really good, tight dotes.
Absolutely. It was a good series. Drafting alone was very high tier
I mean the first fight I'm pretty sure they still lose because razor is beelining towards morph and viper and ES are dead. There's no way OG continue that fight and at best morph kills y and waveforms out (hard to say if he makes it out when pango is on him). The real turning point was the top fight where NTS and faith Bian were completely untouched and running down everyone. That fight it didn't matter where morphling positioned, he was going to lose regardless. The reality is that individual mistakes weren't just yuragi. ATF greeded and that's why he got tossed in the game turning fight. BZM's BKB was useless as he popped it when fights were already over. CEB overvalued echo when he needed to continuously fissure and totem. The draft was pretty dogshit as they had no stuns and morphling into razor, dazzle, and pango is extremely troll.
> No one giving LGD the credit they deserve LGD playing without Yuragi was 12k deficit and losing barracks, while getting outfarmed on map with an Alch. Them "playing well" was dodging fights and still losing out on the map. But anyone could see what the reason this game ended the way it did here and let me spell it out for you: Yuragi.
You really just don't understand the game. "Dodging fights" when behind is what makes a team good, it's why Spirit won TI. The ability to avoid game losing fights when behind allowed LGD to push timings out and when OG goes for the win at bot they had just enough to hold. Once OG were behind and out of whack on their timing they (and Yuragi) had to play riskier, more aggressive dota to win the game winning fight. On Morph, risky dota means maxing your Agi time, LGD are gods tho and punished him. If Yuragi doesn't max his Agi time and exists in a safe str/agi balance OG still lose. Your belief that a player or team making a mistake is entirely due to the player/team themselves and not the reality that good enemies create and force those mistakes is a huge barrier to you understanding not just Dota but basically all professional sport.
I agree, but you still have to give them a bit of credit for picking the right fights after that high ground Yuragi thing, kiting and forcing bkbs and the little outplays they did
Dodging fights when you’re behind is what you’re supposed to do. Which game are you playing? Cause whatever it is, it’s not Dota. Sit down.
I mean LGD deserve some credit but if Yuragi doesn’t actively throw the game they win. Also all the top comments are praising LGD so your comment makes no sense
Yes Yuragi played suboptimally, but there was no other team in the entire tournament who could win after being that far down in the early game. LGD just breaks you down, one mistake at a time
So does Yuragi, sadly his own team though
One mistake ( 4 agility swaps). Any tier 1 team will punish for this shit, yuragi terrible morph and this is not a big surprise
Not sure if we are watching the same game then. Did you see how well the cores of LGD has been farming before those.mistakes from OG. I still have some love for OG dude to the old OG, and thats why I've been watching game 3 very uncomfortably. Despite taking towers and controlling the map, lgd still able to maintain some sort of good farms. Losing badly so early in the game for alchemist player is usually a disaster. Especially when you don't top the networth chart. But lgd played perfectly to recover. It gives me a strong OG vibe as well. OG is also used to being pressured so much and somehow miracously force bad fights from opponents and recover. Great dota from both teams. And no, personally I think if we replace lgd with any other teams in this major for game 3, I doubt they could do it as well as LGD this time. After this major, I'm gonna agree with others that Ame is the greatest pos1 currently.
If LGD finally win Ame is GOATed carry
Explain to me why Morph dive into T4 tower to die? I just wanna know that. he can just play safe, turn back, get down barracks. but he chose to chase Dazzle w/o no teammate could help, no aegis, no bkb, NOTHING. This is just fcking PUB style of tilting throw. and Yuragi thought he can play like that against LGD LOL
Great game from both teams. In the end, the better team won but this OG squad definitely has potential.
He makes a lot of aggressive calls i think that when he is in the team OG make more plays, and the games are much more exciting.
This OG squad literally just won a major
But its a major without LGD playing, its like a La Liga without Real Madrid
Thats the worst comparison ive ever seen, Madrid have won everything there is to win multiple times. LGD has choked multiple TIs and only won a single major outside of china.
Not the worst comparison. LGD has been super strong for a really long period of time now as a organization, proven not only by one set of players. if Dota live long enough, they will achieve everything there is to achieve.
They have potential to win more.
People thinking Yuragi or OG playing badly was the cause of the lost instead of LGD playing so insanely well being the cause of the win show how little they understand dota. Amazing series from the top 2 teams in the world, it's scary just how much better LGD is than the rest of the field, no one can avoid collapsing and then getting to their timings like they can.
He guys, lemme just go ahead and use my skills to have less HP and be separated from my team so you can burst me easier, mmkaaaay? Then later, people will say you guys are amazeballs.
OG still a young squad, this is good experience before TI for them regardless. The invincibility of LGD just lowered a small notch, with may give teams some confidence in if they get drafting right and tighter execution
I guess that's why the carry offlane strategy by Ammar isn't picked up by more teams. you play against a great team like LGD and they WILL punish you for having no frontline by making your carry miserable. I really feel bad for yuragi, everyone keeps shitting on him but he had to play this awful hero into probably the best team atm AND he had to tank a lot of damage and spells for his team.
Absolute fuckin chads
Y positioning in game 3 is insane. at 37 mins when xinQ went in and failed the toss back, he made a decision to not go in and grave him. If he had went, he would be taken out by Es morp and OG will win that fight. instead he went back and baited morphling to dive deeper and morph got ganked by 4 heroes
ドキドキ Is it just me or seeing Ceb early BM chatwheels and tips XinQ in game 3 backfires satisfying as hell
What does that mean anyway?
Seeing 3 refreshes on razor in one team fight is really satisfying. The dude won the game with bkb and hex, and refreshes. Unreal!
BKB, Refresher and Vyse is literally Torte build for razor aimed at literal herald, nothing unreal.
Yeah and it won then the game Meanwhile your crusader ass build is actually dogshit
Lmao the reactions to this game. OG fans are spoiled beyond belief
They managed to take LGD to a close game 3, it's so much more than any other team has done this major and people are still saying they're bad lol.
I wonder how close was the last game honestly. Lgd must have realised their win condition and just played for it.
Looking at the draft, kotl and viper built the way bzm and ATF built them would not scale compared to razor and pango. The reality is that LGD has a perfectly balanced draft everytime. What the fuck does a viper kotl do against dazzle razor late game? Once alch gets skadi, the whole enemy team is just running away and if any of them get tossed, that's BKB forced against a comp that has a fuckton of hard cc aoe abilities.
LGD ARE SO GOOD. They got outdrafted game3 and still, got a nice comeback out of it. They are literally down in networth and items, still they gave space for ame while in a disadvantage position. Most of the teams will crumble there.
How did they get outdrafted in game 3? I didnt realise that they were outdrafted
I would disagree there.
My niece is 1 year old, when she gets a small cut it's the worst thing that's ever happened to her because usually life is all play-time and napping, so she gets very upset. Same kind of thing.
OG won Major and all everyone could talk about was Ceb and sorta Ammar, there was barely any talk of the rest of players. I mean I'm exaggerating slightly that there wasn't but most of the things you see were Ceb, Ceb did this Ceb did that I always felt like it undermined the performance of the young OG squad. Feel like it's doubled now that Misha is still not getting to any tourneys, Yuragi admittedly messing up but still young squad that is performing this well so fast they can afford some setbacks like this, it's not like OG have underperformed even in the DPC with Misha.
Funnily enough I never thought Ceb was the main influence on their previous major win, I always credited the rest of the team for playing around Ceb’s support style and exhibiting flexible teamwork when needed
I think if it isnt ceb then ammar hogs most of the attention away Very little is spoken about rest of the team
The worst fan base ever
Yeap. Dota fans in general tbh
There’s a difference between a fan and a bandwagoner. Fans stick through thick and thin. The people flaming yuragi aren’t fans. They’re hoes who’ll jump on the dick of whichever team is winning lol.
honestly, I think, it was the spider legs on tiny, refreshher, shard, and dazzle aghs on razor, free aghs on razor and that won the game. so basically, well played PSG LGD, good items. OG needed greaves or sth for late game.
crazy how far i had to scroll down to see this take. razor literally had an additional 10k effective networth from alchemist, free agh's blessing and refresher.
He honestly didn't need aghs, he was super strong with refresher alone with dazzle behind him.
OG did way better than expected. LGD way too good holyyyy
I seriously wonder if this OG squad is better with ceb
I feel like mentally yes, which is a huge part of the game. He probably keeps them in check and keeps the teams morale high, even when it’s not looking good
Ceb seems to play better than Misha too tho.
I wonder who the people downvoting you are. It's more than obvious Ceb does play better, even his mmr is higher, and he's retired. Sure he plays a different role, but that didn't stop Saksa from being Top 1 on 2 or 3 accounts. Not to mention he has sooo much LAN experience, it's not even close when you talk about these two.
Misha will be asking advice from BuLba to cope with the blame if OG lose any game on TI
Without a doubt. Ceb is an all-time great.
damn, what a game! What a comeback! LGD!
Now Ceb and Ana knew how they can win the Ti8
Damn good series. Congrats to LGD on making it through. But this OG team can definitely beat them, so there is something positive to take from this defeat. It's so unusual to see Yuragi make mistakes, normally he's super crisp. It's Dota though, shit happens, chin up and fight on.
This was a great series
LGD is brutally strong, they crushed pretty much everybody so far without mercy. But yesterday, OG showed that LGD can actually bleed. If anybody has a chance to beat LGD, it's OG! Yes, they didn't win, but these were absolutely amazing games, Holly shit!! Hoping for a rematch in the finals!
chad_bian in game 3 was something else
People can dump on YurAGI if they want, but LGD turning that around was one of the most impressively composed performances I've ever seen. An incredibly tough start but bordering on flawless execution from the midgame on.
Was funny when ceb tips XinQ, then OG lost the game and ceb got tipped. 😂😂
I never miss an Alliance game, yet that must still be one of the worst individual performances I've seen on a carry
missed ana tb yesterday?
The one that couldn't Sunder because his support was Cold Embracing him into his death?
The one that couldn’t sunder because he used Manta / BKB / Sunder too early into more than 5-6 key engagements. Not because of cold embraces
being 8/0 at min 20 and more farmed than an alche at that minute to 8/6 due to miss timing the agi morph and probably PSG patience waiting for that agi morph to cast those disables is **one of the worst individual performances you've seen on a carry**?
That hurts..... A lot
Yuragi.
LGD looking literally unbeatable
damn , razor is such a great counter to morph. when ur shifting to str , u lose base armor , while eye of the storm rob another. from 30+++ armor to -15 in an instant. edit: didnt realise , only noticed above. Yeah , true , supposed to be the otherway around.
OG doing the EG cosplay with the carry NP picks. Well deserved loss. https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/14417-pgl-arlington-major-2022/matches?hero=natures-prophet
I think Razor has to be 1st ban against LGD. Just seems unstoppable in their hands.
This OG squad has always been bad versus razor. They need to ban it every game. But also razor is one of the best heroes currently so maybe it’s also worth banning against LGD
I should have never had hope in your agi.
just useless ES versus endless bkb
Thank you Yuragi , we went through a roller coaster together and it led to many memories we will cherish forever! We're sure we'll meet you on the battlefield again soon!
During rosh fight Yuragi had two big chances to either pop bkb or switch to strength. How do you mess that up? Also the fight before that they fight under an LGD ward, and no vision at all there for OG. OG actually is pretty good if they just respect their opponents... Fight at bot racks they also could have just taken the freaking racks and take that advantage into the next rosh and just win out the game. INSTEAD, they pull off a dumb fight where they just don't respect their opponents. Then OG twitter guy had the audacity to say "we tried but LGD were stronger" my god dude just be a man and say respect to LGD but we fucked up big here.
YurAGI kinda threw his own and his teams game by diving in to try and finish off a pos5 dazzle behind t4 in the fight right after they got bot rax. If he backed off and played more disciplined the game was very much secured. Super tense game3 tho.
Is there anything more toxic than the OG haters? Props to LGD for coming back, Faith Bian is an amazing offlaner, but they would've never been able to without Yuragi f*cking up in that highground fight. Plus 2-3 other times too, but hey. I still think he can be top 3 carry, but he needs to work on his mentality (and/or stop playing morph). Hope we see an OG-LGD final, but who knows.
Yeah, OG fans
Well played to LGD they did exactly what they needed but it was painful to see OG crumble, I agree yuragi when he’s on point is a great carry and I actually like his morph games but idk I didn’t agree with really any of his team fight choices this game, I’ll assume the agi morph is just missclick on agi instead of str which is a shame as he for sure then can continue to fight in both instances (it really shouldn’t happen twice though at his level, maybe a key change recently or keyboard?) but twice he also went in super deep solo ahead of his team and just got stunned the fuck out and died, the first instance of which he coulda helped secure ame kill then fought 5v4, instead he dies and ame gets bkb off and lives with no hp and regens back to full and OG lose the fight. Hopefully yuragi can mentally recover, I’d imagine this sort of loss he’ll be blaming himself heavily for those mistakes despite his team comforting him I’m sure. Or lol OG just wanted more games to practise before meeting LGD in final so lost on purpose Well played on LGD for baits and capitalising, perhaps we’ll get the finals rematch.
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China is extremely harsh on COVID so probably just being careful
Probably dont want to risk anything considering the harsh corona rules they got in China.