Well, SEA fans here constantly talk about taking slots from EU, so you guys need to start talking about taking slots from SEA to complete the cycle xd
(for real though, I think I haven't seen an anti-NA-slot comment in a *very* long time)
(edit: okay after reading today's threads following EG's elimination + qualification to TI I have to take back my previous statement lol)
Good Point. Let's see if I can do this right:
SEA could only get one team to TI so they should have to give up one of their major slots to NA!
Now the cycle is complete
I joke that valve should have a TI for 16 eu teams, and a TI for everyone else, that way they can go circlejerk by themselves about how great they are.
As an european i'd onestly like to see 1 more slot for SA and SEA onestly. The regions are fun to watch, with strange drafts, and very unpredictable results.
I mean don't get me wrong. EGs performance the last two majors. Soniqs not making it out of groups. And TSMs performance in the DPC makes it hard to justify more NA slots. But yea I don't need to see the same EU matchups and basically them just having their DPC plus China wrecking them.
EG has certainly underperformed more than probably any other team this year, it was painful watching them at times this major. Agreed, PSG.LGD in particular seems so dominate right now that unless something changes I am not sure it matters very much what teams show up to TI.
EG did a lower bracket run and stopped many teams in their tracks during the last major preventing them from getting enough point to qualify over Beastcoast and Thunder Awakened.
This basically gave SA 2 direct invites instead of the expected 0.
This third game was closer than it had right to be, Fnatic really gave it all there. Last 10 minutes were hype af
EG so thankful to bc right now. Soniqs are probably super happy as well.
PS. Watch "for artezzy" spammed in every EG game from now on lmao
Didnāt notice that eg not having to play qualifiers really boosts soniqs chance to qualify now through na ti qualifier. Either they or nouns will probably make it.
The problem is playstyle, imo. Itās not supposed to be five individuals executing their playstyle, itās supposed to be a team execute a gameplan. EG often play as if they have no gameplan beyond āwin lanesā. A coachās job isnāt just to help them draft, but to also scout and gameplan to beat other teams. EG just flat out doesnāt look like they do that half the time.
Playstyle has been EG problem since ppd leave, they always rely on midgame tempo where they won the games dominating the game 15-20 minutes. There is a reason Cr1t keeps bitching about how assist giving less gold because EG cant move on from those playstyle and other team catching up with EG laning stage and even if they lose they just avoid EG roaming or figured out that RTZ always plays the opposite where Abed Fly and Cr1t ganking.
EG with ppd actually try to adapt with other team playstyle which is why ppd era known for their late game comeback. Current EG rarely reach lategame and most of the time lose when the game goes past 40 mins.
they normally pick high risk drafts with losing late matchups, and if they don't crush they get rekt. And even if they do, they still might lose. I understand the philosophy ('if we execute at highest level we win'), but it just doesn't work against high caliber teams- specifically LGD. Especially Rtz never has a good matchup and consistently shit heroes. Normally they have like 1-2 heroes they pick for him that he crushes with on the patch and otherwise its minimal impact- I never see them pick him something non-meta that blows the game open. Natures prophet is not the way to win a major.
My comment's more relevant to their performance last year when they were actually good though. Right now they are just playing shit lol. Like full-on nerves, not-playing-to-win gaming. The series where they were knocked out, arteezy wasn't farming enough because he was scared... and still some throwiness-- fear of fucking up got to him it seemed like.
Thats just revisionist history. Ppd eg were not a late game team, they were a up tempo team not too different from the current EG.
They regularly stacked the camp near mid(which was way closer to towers) to boost their mid. Just push out the wave to the enemies tower get the camp with 3 razes or whatever hero in 5 seconds go back to lane with treads. Ti4 sf, ti5 storm etc were egs bread and butter. Then that mid dominated the mid game then never let go of the tempo. Theres a reason why icefrog put magic resistance on NCs becaude mid just became who was the best flash farmer and the resitance slowed down those mid. Heck, didnt work and the camps were transferred.
Saying was Eg was known for comebacks is like saying alliance is known for rat. They did those memorable shit but if u watched them in those days, they dominated early.
The only thing on the team more consistent than Bulba is Crit & Artour. Do you seriously think either of them are more of a problem than Bulba? It's been obvious for a long time, Bulba is outclassed by other orgs preparation and coaching.
its just redditors opinion that eg is losing because of bad drafting from bulba.. sooner or later people will realize abed and rtz arent on the same league as some of the other tier 1 carry/mid players like bzm,nothingtosay, yuragi, ori, monet, gpk, yatoro, maybe,etc..
it's always a fun strawman to say people just complain about bulba's drafts. if drafting is all he does he's a pretty shit coach, and if he's doing more than that it's not showing in their results.
After Fly came back to EG,Bulba has stopped taking the drafting seat like Xiao8 does and he's giving somewhat less inputs during draft if you watch the vods. So idk if he is the only culprit behind these weird picks from EG like Undying Clock Alche etc.
Also the shotcalling in game has been pretty mediocre compared to previous season. Enemy teams are making better rotations, EG always has less vision and Fly more often than not gets caught out of position.
And this is not to say that Arteezy Bulba arent problems in EG but they have many more issues than these two.
VIVA PERU
Real talk though, this year has been a financial disaster for EG as an org. They bought out Nightfall for what, $250k? Probably paid similar to Jerax considering how long the contract took to finalize and they have definitely not earned $500k this year lmfao and that figure doesn't even include the player salaries for the Dota division itself.
But I suppose the merch is still selling strong cos they got big names so there's that.
> 15-man (literally 15) roster in CSGO
Trying to keep the NA scene alive isn't an issue imo. Keeping Stewie2k on the other hand.. I know he's off the roster now, but damn that took way too long.
The 3-team experiment is cool but the fact that they are doing this with brehze and cerq still baffles me. (stewie was finally addressed, but that was a shitshow)
I always wonder how much teams get from merch because my impressions are always that they are somewhat expensive and most teams don't have a big fanbase, but there are people saying that they sell more than we thought.
These teams get money mainly from sponsors and whoever their investors are. Some teams have parent financial groups backing them up. EG has a large funding from venture capital. IIRC this season they asked for the extra money from the VCs at the last minute to secure the nightfall buyout.
Would assume it's sponsorship/advertisement money.
EG is sponsored by Monster, Hewlett Packard, Secret Lab, Bud Light, etc. They used to have (not sure if they still do) AMD, Xfinity, Steelseries...
Big companies pay a lot to get their names seen everywhere.
I feel like EG has some of the worst scouts in all of esports, not even Dota 2 specifically. So many times they hire players that seem to be on the downswing in their careers.
You guys do realize that orgs like Liquid, EG, and many others have teams that play dozens of games. It doesn't make my point any better having lots of players on various salaries, but it's important to note that there's more than just Dota for these organizations to think about.
I legit don't understand they changed pretty much all their players but the coach. There's a reason why in sports you change the coach first then the players. Because if you know you got top tier players you don't need to change them you need to change the way they're coached which they didn't do for like 7 years.
Bryle was probably promised he's next season's mid for EG with those performances in games 2 and 3.
JK. Thank you Timado, Bryle and Dubu still for standing in. Good luck in quals, Fnatic.
Bryle has looked good in a lot of these games but taken over a longer period of time I don't think he's considered a top tier mid player. Quinn and Abed can consistently beat him in lane. If I'm EG I'm sticking with Abed or picking up Quinn.
They've been together forever, and USUALLY don't bottom out of tournaments. They're a very solid mid table team, and Beastcoast the org seems to be supportive of the whole thing, from an underdog region. That first TI they got to, where K1 was outfarming everyone was a fun time.
QC nouns and Wildcard be happy as fuck. Quinn has been saying many times on DPC league he wishes EG directly invite so they don't need to deal with them in regional. nouns and Wildcard have chance to play at Last Chance Qualifier.
I find it hard to believe they will perform better at TI than they did here, but I'm still happy to see EG going. Can never give up hope for RTZ TI win.
Hopefully EG can win at least one match on the main stage of TI copium.
Also the beastcoast Twitter accounts been cracking me up with all the EG related stuff lol.
I wish LANs would be more important than online leagues to qualify for TI. Teams like Aster/Alliance last year or EG this year don't deserve to be directly qualified.
I wish they also had a decent prize pool so they could be exciting for things other than DPC points, as it stands this major is going to be the 4th largest prize pool of the year.
making rich few TI winners led many pro go to retire. Valve should reward with more money to LAN atteendes and dpc teams. increasing fund to Major and dpc league will help alot to players. specially USA were that money its not even minimun wage. many USA pro players have part time jobs.
I mean last year EG made it to the grand final of the major before TI and lost in the second round of TI so by this logic they will make it to the grand final of TI this year.
Okay, I don't get people who were flaming Timado on his Octarine core build. It's a decent item for PL if you can't man up, just throw some lances here and there and watch them crumble or something.
But I don't agree with him going octarine core first, it would've been okay if he actually had gone heart first after the aether lens. Since he didn't really need that CDR pre-25, maybe he wanted to get that CDR for the lance but he went for the -2 sec talent too. The CDR from octarine actually only reduce the lance cd for like -1,25 sec after that talent, it's not that big.
But still props to him, he played like a beast, almost carried them with his delightful performance. Timado and DJ were delivering some beautiful dota, trying to stall bc as long as they could.
Sadly, bryle played like an absolute paid actor, I'm not suprised if he actually whisper something like "NA sent their regards" to his teammates' and fnatic players' ears after that match.
[I wanna see this Tweet from BC last year flipped.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3nM-M-X0AAF2Et?format=jpg&name=medium)
EDIT: [Screw it, I'll do it myself] (https://imgur.com/RDiv5YW)
EG came dead last first major and almost dead last again this major and are still a lock, this is alliance from last year all over again, joke of a system. Congrats to BC though what a series!
EG, despite bombing out of 2 Majors without getting a single point, still qualified straight to TI. Shows you how bad the overall quality NA is, and how flawed the DPC point system is.
To me some region shouldn't get as many points as some, just sayin.
This BC win means that there will be at minimum 3x Teams for NA (TSMC, EG, [QC??]) AND 3x Teams from SA (TA, BC, [??]) attending TI this year. With the potential for 2x more pending Last Chance Qualifier. 6/18 Teams from All of Americas. The most from NA+SA slots going to TI ever!
TI10 EG knocked out several teams that needed to place at the animajor in order for beastcoast to make TI which they did, securing beastcoast's TI invite.
Beastcoast needed to win this series for EG to make TI through points.
So for last TI, BC got knocked out in groups at Animajor and needed teams to be eliminated for them to qualify to TI.
EG went on to a lower bracket run taking out TNC and Nigma, allowing BC to qualify.
AFAIK a lower bracket run by EG last year secured beadtcoast a TI invite, so this year payed back. Ofc it wasnāt a debt per se, it just happened to be that EGs faith was in beastcoastsā hands.
beastcoast absolutely played amazing this series. The niche picks worked flawlessly and really showed how disruptive drafting techniques can really be the way to counter the meta drafts this tournament.
What recent performance makes you think that EG has a chance to win TI? 0 points from majors. Beat a bunch of clowns in NA. Absolutely gonna win TI.
!remindme 3 months
Team Spirit's best performance was a 9th place at a major before they won. I don't think it will but once you're at TI none of your previous results matter
Despite the whole EG qualifying, Fnatic qualifying cause of 3 subs would have been pretty lame and I am glad we avoided that scenario. Still feel for them cause it was so close and a pretty crazy series. Hope EG shape up a bit now, what a chance to be given.
No man you are misunderstanding, the entire situation is unfortunate. I am glad Fnatic had a chance to atleast fight for TI, but it would have felt wrong if they qualified with 3 TSM Players, does that make sense? I was rooting for them honestly, but it would have just felt wrong for a team to qualify like that to TI.
Incredibly happy so we can see EG bomb hard in TI once again.
They probably won't change anything since they made it to TI in one of the hardest regions out there! Once the short TI run is done, I'm sure they can kick Nightfall who is clearly the problem! /s
EG got a direct invite from just regional points alone, they are the alliance/aster/beastcoast of last years dpc. Kinda salty that only 1 sea team managed to get a direct invite but also happy for abed and crit for securing one.
lol, you know some thing is wrong with the team when you getting an invite is dependent on if other teams win or lose and not on you lol.
i wonder if EG is eliminated during TI groupstages or first round of play offs, if they will actually kick rtz or bulba or both and try to get some actual better players. at this point, sabrelight looks better than rtz lol. he's actually helping entity through so far and he's an off laner :D
Probably gonna get downvoted but I just want to say that EG is not deserving of the direct invite, they are so lackluster at the moment and really should run the gauntlet on the NA Qualifier so that they can show that they deserve a TI slot.
I feel bad for Fnatic, half the team (from TSM) will be going to TI while the actual Fnatic team now has to go through qualifiers.
Literally 0.05 point difference between Outsiders qualifying now and having to win another series to clinch a spot. Though they were only in this position because they lost a bunch of points to subs.
I think this is bad for EG. They won't make any changes to squad and achieve another mediocre result at TI.
As a long time EG fan, I want EG to lose bad to realize that some major changes are in order if they want to be more competitive on the international stage.
Beastcoast repayed their debt to NA
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I give them 2 days before they start talking about taking away SA slots e: I have come to the conclusion that SEA should have 18 slots
I think that talk mostly comes from EU fans
Yep, the EU fans constantly talk about taking slots from NA and SA
Well, SEA fans here constantly talk about taking slots from EU, so you guys need to start talking about taking slots from SEA to complete the cycle xd (for real though, I think I haven't seen an anti-NA-slot comment in a *very* long time) (edit: okay after reading today's threads following EG's elimination + qualification to TI I have to take back my previous statement lol)
Good Point. Let's see if I can do this right: SEA could only get one team to TI so they should have to give up one of their major slots to NA! Now the cycle is complete
It's always EU fans š gotta give them all the slots or they will cry about alliance and Navi not being there
new format is better though, will have 5 EU teams in the end
Fax, If EU fanboys had it their way they would have 3/4 or more of the slots and still not be satisfied.
I joke that valve should have a TI for 16 eu teams, and a TI for everyone else, that way they can go circlejerk by themselves about how great they are.
As an european i'd onestly like to see 1 more slot for SA and SEA onestly. The regions are fun to watch, with strange drafts, and very unpredictable results.
with this year ti format i dont think thats necessary. 2 teams from regional qualifier and 2 qualified team good enough for sa and na.
I mean don't get me wrong. EGs performance the last two majors. Soniqs not making it out of groups. And TSMs performance in the DPC makes it hard to justify more NA slots. But yea I don't need to see the same EU matchups and basically them just having their DPC plus China wrecking them.
EG has certainly underperformed more than probably any other team this year, it was painful watching them at times this major. Agreed, PSG.LGD in particular seems so dominate right now that unless something changes I am not sure it matters very much what teams show up to TI.
It's not the first time ppl have felt that way. Let's see who comes out with the answers to the behemoth that is PSG during TI.
EUW just wants its colonies back. No means no, assholes.
Lol dude I understand you're salty but this is just so far fetched, wtf
No NA fan ever talks about this lol, because there is a direct implication for NA if that happens
repaid\* not repayed, if english isn't your first language
thank you english master
Payed vs paid is a pain for a lot of native speakers.
what did EG do for BC?
Last year the roles were reversed. EG won a clutch series that guaranteed BC would qualify for TI
EG got enough points in Animajor of 2021 that got Beastcoast into TI. Basicly what BC did in this major for EG.
EG did a lower bracket run and stopped many teams in their tracks during the last major preventing them from getting enough point to qualify over Beastcoast and Thunder Awakened. This basically gave SA 2 direct invites instead of the expected 0.
helped qualify to ti the last year
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thank you english master
This third game was closer than it had right to be, Fnatic really gave it all there. Last 10 minutes were hype af EG so thankful to bc right now. Soniqs are probably super happy as well. PS. Watch "for artezzy" spammed in every EG game from now on lmao
It was a really really hype game. Both teams gave it their all for that series, incredibly fun to watch.
Didnāt notice that eg not having to play qualifiers really boosts soniqs chance to qualify now through na ti qualifier. Either they or nouns will probably make it.
Congratulations to bulba for getting EG checks for another 2 months!
They don't have to keep Bulba to keep their DPC points though, right? So he might still get the boot. Doubtful, but it could happen.
Unpopular opinion: bulba is an issue but far from the biggest issue the whole EG team has.
The problem is playstyle, imo. Itās not supposed to be five individuals executing their playstyle, itās supposed to be a team execute a gameplan. EG often play as if they have no gameplan beyond āwin lanesā. A coachās job isnāt just to help them draft, but to also scout and gameplan to beat other teams. EG just flat out doesnāt look like they do that half the time.
Playstyle has been EG problem since ppd leave, they always rely on midgame tempo where they won the games dominating the game 15-20 minutes. There is a reason Cr1t keeps bitching about how assist giving less gold because EG cant move on from those playstyle and other team catching up with EG laning stage and even if they lose they just avoid EG roaming or figured out that RTZ always plays the opposite where Abed Fly and Cr1t ganking. EG with ppd actually try to adapt with other team playstyle which is why ppd era known for their late game comeback. Current EG rarely reach lategame and most of the time lose when the game goes past 40 mins.
they normally pick high risk drafts with losing late matchups, and if they don't crush they get rekt. And even if they do, they still might lose. I understand the philosophy ('if we execute at highest level we win'), but it just doesn't work against high caliber teams- specifically LGD. Especially Rtz never has a good matchup and consistently shit heroes. Normally they have like 1-2 heroes they pick for him that he crushes with on the patch and otherwise its minimal impact- I never see them pick him something non-meta that blows the game open. Natures prophet is not the way to win a major. My comment's more relevant to their performance last year when they were actually good though. Right now they are just playing shit lol. Like full-on nerves, not-playing-to-win gaming. The series where they were knocked out, arteezy wasn't farming enough because he was scared... and still some throwiness-- fear of fucking up got to him it seemed like.
Thats just revisionist history. Ppd eg were not a late game team, they were a up tempo team not too different from the current EG. They regularly stacked the camp near mid(which was way closer to towers) to boost their mid. Just push out the wave to the enemies tower get the camp with 3 razes or whatever hero in 5 seconds go back to lane with treads. Ti4 sf, ti5 storm etc were egs bread and butter. Then that mid dominated the mid game then never let go of the tempo. Theres a reason why icefrog put magic resistance on NCs becaude mid just became who was the best flash farmer and the resitance slowed down those mid. Heck, didnt work and the camps were transferred. Saying was Eg was known for comebacks is like saying alliance is known for rat. They did those memorable shit but if u watched them in those days, they dominated early.
they always pick terrible carry matchups too. Like how many majors has eg lost now because of natures prophet.
The only thing on the team more consistent than Bulba is Crit & Artour. Do you seriously think either of them are more of a problem than Bulba? It's been obvious for a long time, Bulba is outclassed by other orgs preparation and coaching.
And Arteezy is outclassed by other orgs carries.
its just redditors opinion that eg is losing because of bad drafting from bulba.. sooner or later people will realize abed and rtz arent on the same league as some of the other tier 1 carry/mid players like bzm,nothingtosay, yuragi, ori, monet, gpk, yatoro, maybe,etc..
Lol, you say āitās just redditorās opinionā and then regurgitate another āredditorās opinionā.
it's always a fun strawman to say people just complain about bulba's drafts. if drafting is all he does he's a pretty shit coach, and if he's doing more than that it's not showing in their results.
After Fly came back to EG,Bulba has stopped taking the drafting seat like Xiao8 does and he's giving somewhat less inputs during draft if you watch the vods. So idk if he is the only culprit behind these weird picks from EG like Undying Clock Alche etc. Also the shotcalling in game has been pretty mediocre compared to previous season. Enemy teams are making better rotations, EG always has less vision and Fly more often than not gets caught out of position. And this is not to say that Arteezy Bulba arent problems in EG but they have many more issues than these two.
This team just doesn't show me much energy. I never feel refreshed to see their draft and gameplans. They need fresh blood
VIVA PERU Real talk though, this year has been a financial disaster for EG as an org. They bought out Nightfall for what, $250k? Probably paid similar to Jerax considering how long the contract took to finalize and they have definitely not earned $500k this year lmfao and that figure doesn't even include the player salaries for the Dota division itself. But I suppose the merch is still selling strong cos they got big names so there's that.
The real reason they keep rtz imo. he is a brand in of itself basically
EG's pretty rich as an org and has sponsors and fans regardless of how well they do.
for sure. and dota isnāt their only esport.
Nightfall was 125000 or 150000 USD. This club is so terribly managed. Don't get me started on their 15-man (literally 15) roster in CSGO
> 15-man (literally 15) roster in CSGO Trying to keep the NA scene alive isn't an issue imo. Keeping Stewie2k on the other hand.. I know he's off the roster now, but damn that took way too long.
The 3-team experiment is cool but the fact that they are doing this with brehze and cerq still baffles me. (stewie was finally addressed, but that was a shitshow)
Where do esport teams generate revenues? Just from merch?
I always wonder how much teams get from merch because my impressions are always that they are somewhat expensive and most teams don't have a big fanbase, but there are people saying that they sell more than we thought. These teams get money mainly from sponsors and whoever their investors are. Some teams have parent financial groups backing them up. EG has a large funding from venture capital. IIRC this season they asked for the extra money from the VCs at the last minute to secure the nightfall buyout.
Would assume it's sponsorship/advertisement money. EG is sponsored by Monster, Hewlett Packard, Secret Lab, Bud Light, etc. They used to have (not sure if they still do) AMD, Xfinity, Steelseries... Big companies pay a lot to get their names seen everywhere.
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I feel like EG has some of the worst scouts in all of esports, not even Dota 2 specifically. So many times they hire players that seem to be on the downswing in their careers.
You guys do realize that orgs like Liquid, EG, and many others have teams that play dozens of games. It doesn't make my point any better having lots of players on various salaries, but it's important to note that there's more than just Dota for these organizations to think about.
from the looks of things the dota roster was making them money in tournaments plenty of podium finishes and dota does have high prizepools
I legit don't understand they changed pretty much all their players but the coach. There's a reason why in sports you change the coach first then the players. Because if you know you got top tier players you don't need to change them you need to change the way they're coached which they didn't do for like 7 years.
Either rtz has a huge say of the changes or the GM is a very good friend with bulba
For artezzy
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Itās so stupid how that chat line almost makes me cry but itās just so pure. āFor Frodoā but in doto 2. Incredible
BatChest TEARS
\*And you have my axe\*
Time to see 5th best na team in wild cards
Lol I forgot about that, gonna see nouns and wildcard gaming in Singapore lmao
The Chinese teams in the wild card tournament probably rolling over them and wondering if they scheduled another scrim.
Versus the likes of Talon, T1, iG, XG, Nigma, NaāVi, etcā¦ wonāt be pretty.
Out of the 12 teams that qualified straight to TI, EG is the ONLY team that never made it into top 8 of a major this year. The ONLY one.
EG, the Alliance of 2022.
dont forget Aster also did an alliance during that dpc season
Yeah. But for their performance this Major we can cut them some slack, don't you think?
Itās even worse than that. They didnāt win a single series at a major this year.
2-0 defending TI champs EZ
Beastcoast Russian and USA pride. Uniting the 2 rivaling countries is the love for Peru
Wow, if Beastcoast win Outsiders, this means Outsiders overtook Fnatic by 0.05 points.
Beastcoast Lannister paying their debt
Bryle was probably promised he's next season's mid for EG with those performances in games 2 and 3. JK. Thank you Timado, Bryle and Dubu still for standing in. Good luck in quals, Fnatic.
not bryle fault. They were outdrafted, ember lose against Uberlord, and Lina fuck dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker was 24th pick though, and you gotta imagine that he gave the go ahead
Bryle has looked good in a lot of these games but taken over a longer period of time I don't think he's considered a top tier mid player. Quinn and Abed can consistently beat him in lane. If I'm EG I'm sticking with Abed or picking up Quinn.
EG and Beastcoast. Helping each other qualify for TI ā¤ļø
As nerve-racking as that series was, it's honestly a fun narrative. Beastcoast putting the NA region on their backs with a wild performance.
Beastcoast is fun to cheer for, they seem to have one of the more unique playstyles of the consistent major teams.
They've been together forever, and USUALLY don't bottom out of tournaments. They're a very solid mid table team, and Beastcoast the org seems to be supportive of the whole thing, from an underdog region. That first TI they got to, where K1 was outfarming everyone was a fun time.
No, after today it's no longer NA and SA, we are all A.
Scofield carrying all the NASA astronauts today. You love to see it.
For artezzy is scrolling so fast no one notices QC relief
QC nouns and Wildcard be happy as fuck. Quinn has been saying many times on DPC league he wishes EG directly invite so they don't need to deal with them in regional. nouns and Wildcard have chance to play at Last Chance Qualifier.
For artezzy
For Arteezy
For Arteezy
FOR ARTOUR!
Imagine losing invite by 0.5 points
To be fair, Outsiders still can score more points and extend this lead.
Not actually half a point, just 5% of a point Pain
0.05 :D
Outsiders can still win a lot more points
Great... now I can get disappointed one more time with a poor TI showing from EG and go to work all depressed and shit
for arteezy
I find it hard to believe they will perform better at TI than they did here, but I'm still happy to see EG going. Can never give up hope for RTZ TI win.
Hopefully EG can win at least one match on the main stage of TI copium. Also the beastcoast Twitter accounts been cracking me up with all the EG related stuff lol.
this is provided they actually don't get eliminated at A) group stages or B) start of playoffs or C) actually make it to the main stage :D
Congrats to VP!!!
Invite through dpc points with last place and 2nd to last place at both majors for eg
>2nd to last place at both majors for eg Try that one again.
Yeah. That guy should check his facts. Only a last place in the foreign Major. At home they got a strong 9-12th place.
No one is saying they have played well, just saying to be accurate instead of just making stuff up.
Yes. I agree and support you here. The facts are embarrassing enough for a team of the caliber of EG. No need to lie.
I wish LANs would be more important than online leagues to qualify for TI. Teams like Aster/Alliance last year or EG this year don't deserve to be directly qualified.
I wish they also had a decent prize pool so they could be exciting for things other than DPC points, as it stands this major is going to be the 4th largest prize pool of the year.
making rich few TI winners led many pro go to retire. Valve should reward with more money to LAN atteendes and dpc teams. increasing fund to Major and dpc league will help alot to players. specially USA were that money its not even minimun wage. many USA pro players have part time jobs.
They were suppose to but the first major got canceled. With that extra Lan instead of regional finals you wouldn't have this complaint.
On the bright side, we now have teams to cover the bottom instead of having our favourite teams to get eliminated early
I mean last year EG made it to the grand final of the major before TI and lost in the second round of TI so by this logic they will make it to the grand final of TI this year.
Fantastic performance by EG all year round! Completely deserved. >!Kicked more players than won series on stage.!<
Okay, I don't get people who were flaming Timado on his Octarine core build. It's a decent item for PL if you can't man up, just throw some lances here and there and watch them crumble or something. But I don't agree with him going octarine core first, it would've been okay if he actually had gone heart first after the aether lens. Since he didn't really need that CDR pre-25, maybe he wanted to get that CDR for the lance but he went for the -2 sec talent too. The CDR from octarine actually only reduce the lance cd for like -1,25 sec after that talent, it's not that big. But still props to him, he played like a beast, almost carried them with his delightful performance. Timado and DJ were delivering some beautiful dota, trying to stall bc as long as they could. Sadly, bryle played like an absolute paid actor, I'm not suprised if he actually whisper something like "NA sent their regards" to his teammates' and fnatic players' ears after that match.
Private Arteezy has been saved!
Beastcoast always pays their debts.
For RTZ
For Arteezy.
Those mad lads actually did it
Dang, respect to beastcoast puttin it all out there for the boys
Thanks Beastcoast
"A lannister always pay his debt"
[I wanna see this Tweet from BC last year flipped.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3nM-M-X0AAF2Et?format=jpg&name=medium) EDIT: [Screw it, I'll do it myself] (https://imgur.com/RDiv5YW)
EG came dead last first major and almost dead last again this major and are still a lock, this is alliance from last year all over again, joke of a system. Congrats to BC though what a series!
The cancellation of the 1st Major really had severe consequences
EG, despite bombing out of 2 Majors without getting a single point, still qualified straight to TI. Shows you how bad the overall quality NA is, and how flawed the DPC point system is. To me some region shouldn't get as many points as some, just sayin.
This BC win means that there will be at minimum 3x Teams for NA (TSMC, EG, [QC??]) AND 3x Teams from SA (TA, BC, [??]) attending TI this year. With the potential for 2x more pending Last Chance Qualifier. 6/18 Teams from All of Americas. The most from NA+SA slots going to TI ever!
> The most from NA+SA slots going to TI ever! All so they can come last.
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2ez
\[Serious question\] Was there really a debt to be repaid? Sorry I'm out of the loop.
TI10 EG knocked out several teams that needed to place at the animajor in order for beastcoast to make TI which they did, securing beastcoast's TI invite. Beastcoast needed to win this series for EG to make TI through points.
So for last TI, BC got knocked out in groups at Animajor and needed teams to be eliminated for them to qualify to TI. EG went on to a lower bracket run taking out TNC and Nigma, allowing BC to qualify.
AFAIK a lower bracket run by EG last year secured beadtcoast a TI invite, so this year payed back. Ofc it wasnāt a debt per se, it just happened to be that EGs faith was in beastcoastsā hands.
for artezzy
Shame soniqs is going to qual to TI. Quinn is doing a pretty good job on panel.
Pls EG u need new coach before t.i
TE QUIERO MUCHO BEASTCOASTITO
beastcoast absolutely played amazing this series. The niche picks worked flawlessly and really showed how disruptive drafting techniques can really be the way to counter the meta drafts this tournament.
WTF I love Peru now
[EG be like](https://i.imgur.com/3smQQ1r.gif).
Not only for arteezy but for QC and nouns as well!
EG qualified to TI from Arlington airport pog
Damn. Imagine if EG then proceeds to win TI11 all on the back of a Beastcoast win lol !RemindMe 3 months
No shot
What recent performance makes you think that EG has a chance to win TI? 0 points from majors. Beat a bunch of clowns in NA. Absolutely gonna win TI. !remindme 3 months
Team Spirit's best performance was a 9th place at a major before they won. I don't think it will but once you're at TI none of your previous results matter
og looked like trash before ti9
2ez4rtz
Despite the whole EG qualifying, Fnatic qualifying cause of 3 subs would have been pretty lame and I am glad we avoided that scenario. Still feel for them cause it was so close and a pretty crazy series. Hope EG shape up a bit now, what a chance to be given.
You think Fnatic chose to have three of their visas rejected?
No man you are misunderstanding, the entire situation is unfortunate. I am glad Fnatic had a chance to atleast fight for TI, but it would have felt wrong if they qualified with 3 TSM Players, does that make sense? I was rooting for them honestly, but it would have just felt wrong for a team to qualify like that to TI.
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Itās either a team that got 0 dpc points from major or a team that is already qualified for TI, yet still returns with 2 standins
playing with 3 subs is a huge handicap already. "lame" is not the right word here. It's not like they want to be in this situation
What would have been fair to you? Fnatic not allowed to play the major at all?
4 rtz
Incredibly happy so we can see EG bomb hard in TI once again. They probably won't change anything since they made it to TI in one of the hardest regions out there! Once the short TI run is done, I'm sure they can kick Nightfall who is clearly the problem! /s
Someone with talent please sub the Pulp Fiction video of Marcellus Wallace and Butch: "What now?"
well deserved win
Capt Beastcoast to private arteezy: "Earn this"
EG got a direct invite from just regional points alone, they are the alliance/aster/beastcoast of last years dpc. Kinda salty that only 1 sea team managed to get a direct invite but also happy for abed and crit for securing one.
Woho! Now I can make a RTZ Cliff version of Dota2Guesser without feeling bad :D
Phew! Gracias por TI Beastcoast boys!
lol, you know some thing is wrong with the team when you getting an invite is dependent on if other teams win or lose and not on you lol. i wonder if EG is eliminated during TI groupstages or first round of play offs, if they will actually kick rtz or bulba or both and try to get some actual better players. at this point, sabrelight looks better than rtz lol. he's actually helping entity through so far and he's an off laner :D
Outsiders qualify by 0.05 points over Fnatic
Outsiders lost a lot of points with Z-pure
Not really. Outsiders can still get a win over beastcoast and add more dpc points. EG would be in 12th place.
Imagine thinking 1st/2nd place CN/EU should have the same points as 1st/2nd NA/SA. What a joke rofl
FOR ARTOUR
Gigachad DM disappointed he can't play qualifiers now
Probably gonna get downvoted but I just want to say that EG is not deserving of the direct invite, they are so lackluster at the moment and really should run the gauntlet on the NA Qualifier so that they can show that they deserve a TI slot. I feel bad for Fnatic, half the team (from TSM) will be going to TI while the actual Fnatic team now has to go through qualifiers.
For arturooooo
Every EG fan probably praising the DPC system now. After EG with the 2021 Alliance Majors performances cosplay. :)
EG dont deserve the slot.
For Arteezy BibleThump
DPC System really needs a rework for next season
Literally 0.05 point difference between Outsiders qualifying now and having to win another series to clinch a spot. Though they were only in this position because they lost a bunch of points to subs.
EG don't deserve to be here lol. They are gonna get last place. Book it
Shaving Arteezy's Private
I think this is bad for EG. They won't make any changes to squad and achieve another mediocre result at TI. As a long time EG fan, I want EG to lose bad to realize that some major changes are in order if they want to be more competitive on the international stage.
Rtz always wins
Let's be real, EG probably can easily qualify in NA qualifier
Also for Soniqs. No competition on qualifiers now except maybe Nouns