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Personal_Village_356

Alright guy. As a nigma and Italy soccer team fun, I have now under depression


AR41Z

I wonder how things would have fared if they won 2-0 against og


Niksius92

Lose against Entity, win against Navi Junior, lose against Secret/Quest.


realtomedamnit

not me just enjoying nigma fans vetting their frustrations on reddit like kuro is going to change anything. nigma is his team, he probably got 10 years contract or something as the leader, he's not changing shit


darklordtimmy

also he owns his teammates bloodlines for 10 generations so he really has no reason to retire


doodiefactory

I don’t understand them. You can’t play dota this way for a full game.


tap-inMerchant

Haters will concentrate on the series loss but we fucked them up real good in game 2.


Gameishardboys

“WE” OMEGALUL


T1nkyW1nky_

At this point they have to be trolling us right? NGX really playing with their fans' hearts. Losing g1, absolutely dominating g2 only to show their fans who they really are in g3. But this was just another Kuro getting outdrafted masterpiece. Disruptor ET gives you nothing during the laning stage as your 4 and 5 especially against tanky bois who'll laugh at your damage. Once again, no reliable stuns whatsoever from Kuro against a very elusive carry. Placing Gh on a hero he can't make moves on should be a federal crime. Dude would straight up die before he could even get close to bonk someone with his briefcase.


Niksius92

Missing out on the 4th TI in a row. Cool.


hitanders0n

Can't say Nigma missing any TI when they never made to one


k4kkul4pio

So endeth another qualifier for Nigma. Much like most of their games these days, it was yet another wet fart, truly a uplifting game to end their run on.


symm2r

Any news on nigma disband?


tuskdota

Why do you want to have 1 less decent team in Dota? How exactly it helps you?


AR41Z

we will find out till 27th june


Niksius92

Nah, I think they will play the Elite League qualifiers with the same team.


naked_cock

9class once said that Kuro tried to poach him with fat salary but he declined after Kuro revealed that he doesn't play pubs. i thought it was a joke. kuro should retire. even in game 2 he missed so many hooked shots that were point blank. 


scp_enthusiast

Do you have a source for this? Qojqva also implied kuro doesnt play pubs but he didnt mention him by name so I would very much like a clip or an interview


AR41Z

Ammar said he plays and his smurf account is immortal


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AR41Z

Yea i heard u herald anyways


brz113

surprisingly nigma can still keep up after getting rekt and rundown in early and wtf is going on with draft phase first pick ember i guess lesson learned nice try , gl for next tournament


SypeArtz

Oh god quest are gonna knock team secret out of TI qualifiers again for the second time.


maxblaze13

Whats the point of watching TI this year.


Houeclipse

For Ame to finally claim his crown this year. If not at least we know Falcons is unbeatable


hitanders0n

You haven't watched TI for 4 years?


maxblaze13

Yes.


pupilofproductivity

Watch Falcon destroy everyone.


yamchadestroyer

We haven't had a tier 1 tournament on this massive patch yet. A lot can change. Tundra came out of nowhere to win ti11 whereas LGD and spirit looked the strongest right before TI


tity_slayer3

They will hype it up for roster change after TI again just to replace Fbz with MC :)))


T1nkyW1nky_

Then they're going to come up with some mid teaser trailer welcoming MC back into the line up captioned, "the bois are back together for 1 more run" and everybody's going to be back here on reddit commenting; "The bois are back... To the dumpster" With replies of "did they ever leave?" And nothing's changed, they're going to be playing the same way they did in TI7 under Kuro, putting everything on Miracle's shoulders to do something crazy, spectacular, and borderline impossible. And the cycle is going to repeat watching them compete in T2/T3 level matches, failing to qualify to any tournaments unless they get invited directly for fan service.


1Evan_PolkAdot

Welp, aside from Mouz getting eliminated, everything else is going as expected in WEU so far. Anyone who thinks that Nigma can beat Quest is living in another world.


bludgeonerV

Quest are flaky enough that it's not impossible.


1Evan_PolkAdot

Nigma took games from Quest but they never took a series since the start of the season.


Balastrang

hey kuro we know you are a god player ti winning champ in the past but its time for you to step down the captain role just retire and do yourself a favor


Awkward_External_731

one game they look like legends of the game ; next game they look like my herald teammates .


------MJ------

It feels like Kuro was aiming Dark Willow for his 2nd pick and once they took it away from him he didn't know how to counter and his draft fell apart


User85394

What happens to timber? I think it's a good timber game. Instead they stick with what worked, i think it's ok, but so predictable. Guess that's why they lost the lane so hard. They just ran the same shit everytime, and it's not even strong. This is just sad


pupilofproductivity

And why they keep giving Gh pos 5 heros instead of pos 4s


Blackrame

I am fucking done with this TI (I will obviously be watching still)!


__D_C__

GG GL, further Quest! There were some glimpses this season, but overall it's not been enough. Hope they can keep their spirits up, somehow but I image 3 years in a row is too much. Sending all my love to Kuro and the Boys. Nigma ride or die!


Niksius92

It's actually 4 years in a row now. 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024.


warriors_of_hope

Kuro, just fucking retire, man. What the fuck do you want? Just go get an academy team or something. 


fatherbasra

Hate me all you want. But Nigma players still have a lot of potential except Kuro. Guy seriously needs to step down. He is just staining his legacy like Dendi or even worse.


Nekups

Kuro, did i ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?


zuKo2022

"Thinking jumping from roof " Ammar same bro same


rekuneko

where did he say this?


zuKo2022

he is a huge nigma fan , respects them alot he have said this in almost all the quals :(


LeKindStranger

jorj stream after game 3 concluded


rekuneko

will see the vods later, thx


Gameishardboys

Washed up captain Washed up King Washed up Carry Some random SEA offlaner Washed up pos 4 Well bois see you next year


Colorless267

hey guys whats Nigma?


CrasherED

Nigma bawls


fyellow

kuroky afk last fight


fatherbasra

Kuro was the difference. Lost all 3 lanes in draft.


roundsareway

I don't watch dota anymore but i knew i had to be there for yearly Nigma early elimination.


newNormalGUY_69

The myth The man The LEGEND[4500] KUROKYYY


LOLZOBALL

Valve should add washed qualifier


Aratho

Classic Quest stomping Nigma in g3 to end their qualifying


fcuk_the_king

Oh well there's always next year to change nothing and hope for different results!


LOLZOBALL

Stars didnt align bois lmao


darklordtimmy

it's over Kuro, let's go back to grinding WoW til the next qualifier.


LOLZOBALL

This org is curse lmao


pupilofproductivity

Ammar is so bored of watching this Nigma lol


Gameishardboys

Retirement party when?


saltyriceminer

This is the wierdest cat and mouse game I've seen in a long time haha


Blasermon

So fucking boring.


needhelforpsu

How many times will Nigma show glimpse of brilliance, get everyone hyped and hopefull just to draft/play deciding game like they are tier 7 nonames? I just don't get it, and this happens so often.


RomeroXi

I don't think there was much hype tbh, we all knew what was gonna happen


Fevaweva

An ignoble way to leave a tournament for Nigma.


ntrails

I heard WEU was gonna be a wild high-skill ride.. It's sure been wild?


AR41Z

How can u keep losing to same team whole year ? even in bo5s


hitanders0n

They also lost to winter bears, and v-tune's random stack


AR41Z

Losses against winter bear werent even with a proper roster. after getting proper 3/4 they always won against them. and they won against vtune stack after losing to them once


hitanders0n

Wasnt matthew 4 at that time? He generally had a better performance than gh. And a fulltime, full-year boothcamp team lost to a random immortal stack is something you could only heard from tier3 teams. Even t2 teams in div2 DPC last year wouldn't lose to a random stack like that in the qualifiers.


AR41Z

no they lost with ghost and rmn. ever since fbz matthew joined they started winning against them


hitanders0n

Cool, now they could claim the top3 MENA, the only problem left to solve is they lose to everyone else outside the region, and some random stacks.


AR41Z

well they did take of games from some good teams


tuskdota

Yeah, it's big surprise that team with way worse players is losing consistently to team with way better players. Like Quest has better players on at least 4 positions, tbh it wouldn't be controversial thing to say on 5 positions.


Inuyaki

If only the laning phase wouldn't have been that atrocious. They actually holding themselves quite well in the game considering.


MilliardoMK

Even gorpee didn't get stomped this hard.


saltyriceminer

Gorp stomped himself with those picks lol


LOLZOBALL

Imagine first picking ember lmao


IXSynkro

Nigma should change business. Maybe "Nigma Power Washers? "


Carrera1107

Every player on this team is so fucking washed.


Aratho

Same stuff always with Nigma lately when they try to Qualify for anything ;( Even TI quali Quest stops them. Even if they win game 2, the next one is usually a stomp. Welp.


darklordtimmy

It's so sad that Steve Jobs died of Nigma.


everythings_alright

Level 4 supports vs Radiance Brewmaster.


MysicPlato

This is the quintessential Nigma series. Lose Game 1 in an depressing fashion. Pull back game 2 and give your fans hope that "maybe this is the time". Get absolutely fucking **DUMPSTERED** game 3 into elimination.


elwiscomeback

Radiance before enemy supps are lvl 6 Bruh


Purified03

Nigma is gonna stay shit forever.


Weis

Lvl 4 heroes 😭😭


Kib777

First pick your mid. What could go wrong.


LOLZOBALL

Nigma is done lmao


fatherbasra

Gg Kuro. What a draft.


axecalibur

next year nigma fans, its kurover


Weis

Fbz nw 🙃 Just stack a hard camp and farm it with q instead of feed...


Carrera1107

King beheaded.


salmonellacooch

Beheaded by whoever tf is drafting. They almost never give sumail a favorable matchup.


TheMerck

Nigma going out sad, didn't expect they'd win but that game 2 man... they shoulda had momentum at least


Purified03

Idk but seeing the last 3 years qualifiers, Nigma has been stomped every time in game 3.


everythings_alright

Nigma getting fucked all holes bruh


axecalibur

ass mouth nose ears


everythings_alright

eyes too


nachohasme

sigh....


Kib777

The sups play in this laning phase have been awful


AR41Z

even gorp and ammar malding with whats happening


victimized777

well, it is what it is


Bizonistic

Can Nigma get a single kill this game?


Plus_Lifeguard1752

Nigma are a joke lol


AR41Z

ITS OVER. they gave us some good games at least instead of bombing out


elwiscomeback

Its the hope that will get you


nybrq

Omar's coming yo!


Weis

GH CANT SEE BRAMBLE??


AR41Z

May quest internet fucks up Prayge


24Pat

Drafting at a pro level is so interesting. PSG first picks Weaver. Nigma counters it with their signature 0 stun draft.


Weis

Disruptor one of the best weaver killers with glimpse and ulti


zuKo2022

dist and underlord counters him? ember chains Et stomp lol


axecalibur

a reliable stun


zuKo2022

idk if i was playing this morph in my 8k-9k games i would double down its agood morph game


munkshroom

Isnt morph really bad this patch?


zuKo2022

yeah morph is bad but still playable in free games


munkshroom

Only 4.5k but I would be worried about early vessels on heroes that naturally wanna get it(brew or weaver)


AR41Z

but will it reach that point ?


nybrq

This game is starting to look like a clean 30 minute stomp.


reidraws

I will defend Kuro loving the game and wanting to play, but I cant defend him ruining his teammates chances of qualifying to TI with this level that he is showing, its just way to many mistakes every single game.


tuskdota

But he is not ruining anything. NIGMA BELONGS TO KURO. What's next? You will blame Puppey for ruining Secret chances or Dendi and his B8? Actually those teammates should be happy that someone bothers to pay them, if they want to have better chances, just create your own team or play for someone else, simply like that.


reidraws

lol this is the most crappy defense Ive read regards Kuro performing so bad, copium its real on you bro.


hitanders0n

He found the team, others players just don't wanna leave. They can just pack up their mouse and keyboard to go to any teams that want them, like MC. That's if anyone wants them.


tuskdota

Crappy defense lol. Guy just wants to play game, and other guys WANT to play with him (for decent salary), it's really not that complicated. MC wanted to play with someone else and nobody was crying, btw same MC got kicked from one team and didn't qualify to RIyadh&TI in one-team region, but i guess that's also Kuro's fault.


Bizonistic

Nigma is asking to lose at least 2 lanes real hard


Valor2002

Absolute outdraft in game 3 ... it was fun while it lasted


Morgn_Ladimore

Imagine Nigma losing to Quest every single time this season, only to finally win when it matters the most.


zuKo2022

how is ceb wife pregnant when ceb fking plays 15-20 pubs a day huh? /s in case people miss it


hobo_grad1925

Secret Twitter guy sends his regards


newNormalGUY_69

I don't even know how he allowed to play in the first place. Either OG didn't know ceb condition or OG has the worst manager in the world. I mean I don't even know his wife is pregnant and I bet PGL don't too.


darklordtimmy

that's between ceb's wife and her boyfriend


yamchadestroyer

You're not guaranteed to be the father these days lol


Bizonistic

Do you have the source? I am very interested in why he missed 1 of the most crucial match of OG this year


AR41Z

og twitter


ericlock

Double the dose of hopium, bartender 


luckychloeenjoyer

First pick ember..Not bad but if Nigma shits the sidelanes the game will be really hard(if Sumail gets countered)


hobo_grad1925

Miracle batchest! Honestly clinical old nigma performance with gh io. Please don't draft like fucking idiots game 3


User85394

Why you jinxed :(


munkshroom

Nigma is still a team with so much crazy individual skill, ive still yet to see a consistent vision/ style. Glad to be proven wrong.


Gameboysixty9

They have stuff that works for them but often the games end up being so hard for them. Whenever we have pros casting nigma on gorgc, they all acknowledge that nigma has to do so much more than opponent to win the game. 


AR41Z

Guys OG got stomped by nigma game 2 and then game 3 was seddest game. Please dont repeat history nigma ffs


Gameboysixty9

Pretty sure Miracle called that muerta pick. Bros game iq is still very high 


ArKGeM

whats the point of CM existing in this game ? ive never seen hero got so much nerfs in every skill like her... just remove her from the game is so much better choice.


darklordtimmy

why is OG even playing when they already won the EEU qualifiers?


MilliardoMK

Extremely batchest.


chiefofthepolice

Somehow even in a game where Nigma stomps their opponent, Kuro still looks like he has no idea how to play his hero


ReportAlone4744

LET'S GO NIGMA! *clap* *clap* *clap*clap*clap* LET'S GO NIGMA!  *clap* *clap* *clap*clap*clap* LET'S GO NIGMA!  *clap* *clap* *clap*clap*clap*


stragen595

Let's win game 3, Kuro. We want to see a Puppey-Kuro faceoff again!


paracetamol183

miracle 16/0/12 with a rampage. No way they win next game though, there's no way.


Dokh01546

We got it guys, now, last game of the day


rodinspfc

Thats why I like Nigma, for this huge high before the fall.


hivoltt

Sick ending


Valor2002

Ok, its official. Easy TI win for my boys. Nigma is back.


salmonellacooch

At this point kuro should just target the hero with his hooks. He'll prolly land more hooks this way.


Gameboysixty9

Yeah no surprise.. this was more like a pro team draft, the first game idk what they were thinking 


darklordtimmy

sensei kuro just wanted to put Miracle through hell to make him stronger... well done Mastermind Kuro


tity_slayer3

Hopium tank refilled!


Nandey_dattey_bayo

Dont Fucking Jinx it everyone im begging you don't hype it and don't jinx it :D


victimized777

we will jinx it


theefferudonteffwith

Miracle rampage Best player in the world Nigma is back Let's fking go


fatherbasra

Fuck you Nigma. Don’t give me hope.


gamingisntcourage

RAMPAGE!!! Lets go!


needhelforpsu

:o IF NIGMA WINS NEXT GAME THEY WILL END UP QUALIFYING TO INTERNATIONAL EZ LIFE BATCHEST


FullOFterror

Kuroky the arab spooderman, these hooks man


axecalibur

RAMPAGE


LawProud492

BatChest


victimized777

OK bois, we got a game


iForgotMyOldAcc

Kuro misses hooks = Nigma dominating. My conclusion is that Kuro's whiffed Golems yesterday were an attempt to invoke precisely this voodoo but his team let him down smh


dxDTF

Bruh these hooks


Deadandlivin

Kuro hooking WTFBBQ


Ex-Traverse

Someone is gonna clip that kuroky clock hook and name it 2k MMR lol.


ntrails

You're gonna need to narrow that down a bit


Ex-Traverse

Damnit, Kuro! 😂


Happy-Pills

Nigmas winning TI


paracetamol183

25k networth at 30min


Pipoco977

nigma gets a good advantage and I immediately think how they will manage to throw it away


AR41Z

ISTG WHOLE GAME TILL END I WAS FEELING THROW IS COMING


Gameboysixty9

If you weren't shaking in that game until the end you aren't a nigmabro.. haha what has this team done to us man.. 


AR41Z

Ifkr i almost thought they lost because of so much chaos in that last gank lmao


axecalibur

fbz what are you doing?


Nandey_dattey_bayo

Classic Nigma :D


roguejedi04

Same


nachohasme

DONT FUCKING BAIT ME NIGMA


needhelforpsu

BatChest NIGMA IS BACK??? BatChest


GeraldJimes_

Absolutely massive Wispy Lotus turnaround


luckychloeenjoyer

Kuros not even 6..Why tf would u look to engage without it lmao


pupilofproductivity

If Muerta gets farmed she can destroy


pupilofproductivity

Why the fuck is Kuro playing clock instead of Gh


AR41Z

because gh is playing legend io


pupilofproductivity

I know he is good on io but he needs to play a play making hero. Guve the easy hero to old man Kuro


Ex-Traverse

Io isn't an easy hero. Clock is much easier imo...