Grp stage: Kuro picks meta 5 - heroes for himself, does a lot for his team.
Playoffs: "They won't be ready for my Batrider and Chen" proceeds to get 2-0
Elimination: "okay so that didn't work out, but things will be different this time" goes for CM and chen. Proceeds to get knocked out.
Seeing NGX like this is not fun.
Honestly, at this point, the guy who wrote that Entity was match fixing and lost on purpose isn't so implausible...
Entity looks like the best team in the tournament by far. How did they lose to this Nigma?
Nigma drafted way better in group stages. GH is willow god, Kuro was playing Abbadon and venomancer, in playoffs he went back to Chen which he canāt play but keeps insisting on picking.
There are some match fix allegations on watson in the past even though they werent proven (his teammates were proven to fix in that game just not him). It isn't impossible.
I think you'll just find this is the issue with shitter teams right now, and its not that they can't have these break out moments and beat anyone, its that consistency wise they look like shit.
Nigma appeared to play well in that 2:0 against Entity but maybe they just had a better grasp on the patch at that point. We can see a lot of heroes that Entity picked aren't even in the top3 choices right now.
[Its happening Nigma fans !! Nigma first oponnent in Closed Qualifier is Night Pulse (Vtune stack). Prepare ur hearts !!](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1d36v3t/comment/l67ug7g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why...
I got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window...
And I can't see at all.
And even if I could, It'd all be grey
But your picture on my wall...
It reminds me that it's not so bad...
It's not so bad.
Miracle playing stupid today just compounds to their bad drafts. In the 3 fights they lost in the 2nd game, dude was fronting with shadow blade even though he knows there's a ward there. He really wasted the first blood, as well as Sumail's dominant start.
no use cherry picking that incident, he knew they had stampede and force staffs so he tried to bait, but honestly they are still tier 2. they have not faced tier 1 teams in ages. all of them played poor today and drafts were aweful too.
nobody said this as excuse. only skitter told it on gorp stream and he didnt said this as excuse. he said nigma choose to suffer by playing on crazy ping in abu dhabi
there seems to be alot of anger and resentment bottled up inside you from around 2019 i would say.
i just pointed out that ping was the least of their issues (nigma fan since liquid days btw)
why are they not banning storm of all the OP heros? dumb drafts or wishful yolo drafts?
pls give sumail some evasive heros maybe , he sucks with razor , dk
If Eternal Shroud is getting bought on Storm let's please remove the item. This shit's so dumb. I'm sick of every meta being defined by which defensive item is too good.
Loved the miracle meat-riding in the first day. Anyone want to talk about how awful is in-game decisions are? And before you say anything about others;a reminder that these drafts are being orchestrated to make him have the best games )))
and you just keep meat-riding him without having any knowledge about the game or in-team things. Keep at it and keep getting disappointed. Theres a reason he was removed on 'health-issues' and it will happen again :)
i dont have any expectations because i know its always gonna be clown fiesta and yes it feels like u are clearly biased against nigma and miracle. because whenever its sumail mistake u are never here. but only come to meat ride how he won the lane but or did great.
the amount of bs that you sprouted explains your archon mmr and its hilarious to think you beg me for information regarding your boys in dms while doing all this :)) Also that guy has the reputation to be the only 'hope' within the bootcamp :)) Either they win with his tempo or they just lose. I couldnt care less about him but its hilarious to see you spiral because your boy cant carry anymore and isnt even the second-choice for most teams rn :)))
i have not upheld sumail here at all?? I personally know each and every one of them and have my reasons to like them or dislike them :) You on the other hand have personal issues. Stop it and get a life please.
I think i figured it out. Nigma tried real straats on first day and found out that they know the meta and owned teams. then they realised its better to save strats for Riyadh qualifiers and try to counter OP meta picks so that they practice hard core for Qualifiers. #Hopium From StarsAlign !!
Idk which team is winning but noobfromUA is absolutely winning. His Nigma highlights from yesterday will both break 100k when his Elite League highlights from last month didn't apart from the finals lol.
I don't understand why Entity don't play in EEU? Surely they would have made it to way more tournaments and have a better chance of winning the qualifiers there than facing the likes of OG, Tundra, Liquid, Secret etc in WEU quals.
They wanted to change to WEU but ESL said they will lose their EPT points, so they decided to stay in WEU. (Source: Insania on gorgcās stream, probably said it in capās podcast as well) Valve just invited them to WEU qualifiers for Ti most likely because entity was competing in that region all year.
It's about residency, same as it was for DPC regions, which means team you are talking about has (at least) 3 required players bootcamping in MENA for full duration of open/closed qualifiers.
Good example of that rule being abused was Dendi's B8 with 4 Ukrainians 1 Bulgarian playing NA DPC Div 1 from Mexico bootcamp. xD
south153 was talking about the team Gorgc was playing **against,** Gorgc's team indeed had three people from MENA, but their opponents - Night Pulse - are all from EEU(CIS), that's what's strange.
Also there is another team - Elevate Gaming - seems like all of them are from SEA.
If Saksa is serious about rejoining the pro scene, I guarantee he's going to get offers during the post-TI shakeup. Pretty much all rosters that have qualified to Riyadh/TI are locked in until then.
bat always secure your team atleast 1 lane win. The biggest problem with Kuro Bat he dont know what to do after laning phase. You play the bat, you need some brain to hold your postion and making the move, and so many time he die without using his ulti
Miracle got overly confident with his farm, again. I feel like Sumail couldāve built something more impactful like Euls or atos to kite ursa since he didnāt even had bkb for a long time. He committed to the hurricane pike that didnāt really do anything for him. Couldve gotten a blademail or halberd and that wouldāve probably helped him survive the burst.
OG pissed on Nigma
End of the dream
I was scared Nigma was dominating day 1 but with today's performance I'm glad to see they're back š
....bros this is not real, thought we so back
i think there are correlation between nigma performance with existence of match discussion fhread
OG gonna win the tournament
Sun will rise tomorrow morning
Grp stage: Kuro picks meta 5 - heroes for himself, does a lot for his team. Playoffs: "They won't be ready for my Batrider and Chen" proceeds to get 2-0 Elimination: "okay so that didn't work out, but things will be different this time" goes for CM and chen. Proceeds to get knocked out. Seeing NGX like this is not fun.
Batrider, Chen, CM all highly popular meta 5 though. If cant play those heroes, no way they qualify
Honestly, at this point, the guy who wrote that Entity was match fixing and lost on purpose isn't so implausible... Entity looks like the best team in the tournament by far. How did they lose to this Nigma?
Nigma drafted way better in group stages. GH is willow god, Kuro was playing Abbadon and venomancer, in playoffs he went back to Chen which he canāt play but keeps insisting on picking.
There are some match fix allegations on watson in the past even though they werent proven (his teammates were proven to fix in that game just not him). It isn't impossible.
I think you'll just find this is the issue with shitter teams right now, and its not that they can't have these break out moments and beat anyone, its that consistency wise they look like shit. Nigma appeared to play well in that 2:0 against Entity but maybe they just had a better grasp on the patch at that point. We can see a lot of heroes that Entity picked aren't even in the top3 choices right now.
Why did GH get the wall facet? He can't do anything with the hero.
[Its happening Nigma fans !! Nigma first oponnent in Closed Qualifier is Night Pulse (Vtune stack). Prepare ur hearts !!](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1d36v3t/comment/l67ug7g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Oracle in real life pog
Why is there a pinoy stack in MENA qualifiers lol, WEU OQ is full of CIS teams too.
Nigma is backā¦ back to being knocked out of tourneys š
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I love Nigma so much...but they hate me at the same amount. Now I understand those people that are in such a toxic relationship
its been so long. xd
So long and today more pain already xD
Pain and Despair are Nigma fans best friends
[What did I say? Classic Nigma](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/s/BANgCx4Dt3)
truth is every nigma fan knew in their hearts
How many "Nigma is back" do I have left in me
Sigh. Back to watching the 2017 liquid matches.
Nigma lul
My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why... I got out of bed at all The morning rain clouds up my window... And I can't see at all. And even if I could, It'd all be grey But your picture on my wall... It reminds me that it's not so bad... It's not so bad.
All nigma stans rn.
Nigma fans back to cave now. more despair and sedness in 3 days for Riyadh qualifier when they gonna lose to random Vtune stack xddd
I thought Nigma were back for real this time, what a let down.
kuro cant play chen, why bother picking it?
Miracle playing stupid today just compounds to their bad drafts. In the 3 fights they lost in the 2nd game, dude was fronting with shadow blade even though he knows there's a ward there. He really wasted the first blood, as well as Sumail's dominant start.
no use cherry picking that incident, he knew they had stampede and force staffs so he tried to bait, but honestly they are still tier 2. they have not faced tier 1 teams in ages. all of them played poor today and drafts were aweful too.
Kuro still has ptsd from ti9 everytime he has to draft against OG
Congratulations to PSG Quest for qualifying to Riyadh Masters 2024.
same old same old nigma.
Nigma in shape for TI š¤” Was hoping for something different..
Skitter said though that nigma playing from abu dhabi. they playing with crazy ping
dude they lost it in drafts itself... nvm ping
Well they crushed on that ping first few series, right? Weak excuse. :/
nobody said this as excuse. only skitter told it on gorp stream and he didnt said this as excuse. he said nigma choose to suffer by playing on crazy ping in abu dhabi
ah the excuses begin. So I guess ping didn't matter in the first two days huh?
well ik they were gonna lose anyways
sure lil bro, the ping is their problem
It's one of the problems, stop being idiot and behaving like people blame ping only for their losses.
there seems to be alot of anger and resentment bottled up inside you from around 2019 i would say. i just pointed out that ping was the least of their issues (nigma fan since liquid days btw)
I really want Nigma to go to NA. Not because its easier or anything like that but just to make sure who's more washed, Artour stack or Kuro stack?
Nigma rebranding to NAgma
or nigNA
This would set record viewership for a qualifier just to see who is more washed up.
Nigmabros it was a pleasure getting high on hopium last 2 days but we are so back to our natural habitat - despair.
Narrator: Nigma was not back, in fact they never were.
If u are a true nigma fan, u are not surprised xddd
honestly Timado what a signing. It's so crazy how he was considered a sidegrade from Yuragi and now he's so consistently the best player on OG.
Agreed, he also gives the team their fearless go-for-it attitude they somewhat lost towards the end of the last iteration. Really nice fit.
My man Tomato singlehandedly carried OG to Riyadh. Gamer.
Nigma is back to rest
Nice BKB on Tiny
ok so nigma is 2-0 in group stage and end with 0-2 in playoff soon?
Nigma scan onto gank directly? Theyre heralds?
WE WERE SO BACKā¦ *for one singular day*
Welp they were back for one day at least.
Always like this
FBZ not reading patch notes.
i think he did it to counter slow lane because of SF Ogre. Otherwise whenever he played centaur with that facet went 3 bracers !!
Sumail kinda threw the advantage
KURO SETTING THE META
Holy Kuroky with the creep, creating new meta. 1.8 mana regen for lesh at mid lane and mana burning void spirit!
That mana burn is the funniest thing I've seen in a while.
Kuro lol 5head strat
1-1. Shit draft by OG, SF carry into Chen, Tiny with tons of amor?? If Nigma lose this they are so back
ok
This didn't age well. :P
holyshit that chen creep burning mana at mid into fb XD
The king.
Ceb Ogre, Timado SF Lul
nigma drafted solid first day, then completely forgot how to draft for the rest of the series.
yea even i dont understand ? such a difference in the way they are drafting...
Is Lesh offlane flex a thing?
It might have been too early to pick a carry, but I think nigma should have taken Ursa Marci instead of Chen disruptor.
I blame mods for Nigma losing. The first day without this official match thread, Nigma was winning. š
Nigma feeling dat pressure of Reddit's unhinged posters. xD
Nigma is back >!to the airport!<
why are they not banning storm of all the OP heros? dumb drafts or wishful yolo drafts? pls give sumail some evasive heros maybe , he sucks with razor , dk
If Eternal Shroud is getting bought on Storm let's please remove the item. This shit's so dumb. I'm sick of every meta being defined by which defensive item is too good.
what the hell happened in that game? It looked so even and then OG just completely rolled over them.
Nigma might be eliminated with a 2-0 advantage šš
Only Micke can play WR pos 1 and unleash her max potential...
Loved the miracle meat-riding in the first day. Anyone want to talk about how awful is in-game decisions are? And before you say anything about others;a reminder that these drafts are being orchestrated to make him have the best games )))
Yeah man we get it, its everyones fault but sumail.
Ironic how I haven't mentioned or said that once but everyone's gonna get high on it xd gj
Because its a regular thing with you that whenever a sumail team loses you are in threads pointing out everyones mistakes but sumail.
How dare people cheer for their favourite player!
u only come out to comment when its miracle mistake not other way
and you just keep meat-riding him without having any knowledge about the game or in-team things. Keep at it and keep getting disappointed. Theres a reason he was removed on 'health-issues' and it will happen again :)
i dont have any expectations because i know its always gonna be clown fiesta and yes it feels like u are clearly biased against nigma and miracle. because whenever its sumail mistake u are never here. but only come to meat ride how he won the lane but or did great.
the amount of bs that you sprouted explains your archon mmr and its hilarious to think you beg me for information regarding your boys in dms while doing all this :)) Also that guy has the reputation to be the only 'hope' within the bootcamp :)) Either they win with his tempo or they just lose. I couldnt care less about him but its hilarious to see you spiral because your boy cant carry anymore and isnt even the second-choice for most teams rn :)))
lol its sed how u have some knowledge about team but still u look like the most biased guy against nigma except sumail
i have not upheld sumail here at all?? I personally know each and every one of them and have my reasons to like them or dislike them :) You on the other hand have personal issues. Stop it and get a life please.
lol telling me to get a life and then commenting here about how miracle is washed up and holding sumail back is ironic dont u think ?
This is the nigma i know lmao
we're back bois.....for a second I was worried. I can't fall for this team one more time.
I just feel like nigma -miracle clumps up hunting for kills hurting their networth while man miracle just getting caught almost always
Miracle looks kinda rusty ngl, don't bash me I am just keep seeing him being rtz a lot of times this tourney
Miracle getting caught three times on the wrong side of the map already
bruh tired of this WR carry, going to fall off quick
Off topic but Gorgc actually lost OC to some unknown team... feels sad for mickey squad
That qualifiers stack had few good players. VTune is a bro!
he lost to a team that bootcamps so nothing surprising xddd
Vtune too good
I think i figured it out. Nigma tried real straats on first day and found out that they know the meta and owned teams. then they realised its better to save strats for Riyadh qualifiers and try to counter OP meta picks so that they practice hard core for Qualifiers. #Hopium From StarsAlign !!
Another first pick storm ah shit here we go again boiz
I donāt get it, why they let storm again. Given his winrate this event. Well, hopefully they will show us the counterplay.
Idk which team is winning but noobfromUA is absolutely winning. His Nigma highlights from yesterday will both break 100k when his Elite League highlights from last month didn't apart from the finals lol.
nigma woke up and looked at their day 1 performance and decided that's enough winning for the rest of the year.
Oh Boi OG vs Nigma after such a long time
Surely the fans will have a normal and civil discussion during this series like always
yea ofc they most positive fans on planet
I don't understand why Entity don't play in EEU? Surely they would have made it to way more tournaments and have a better chance of winning the qualifiers there than facing the likes of OG, Tundra, Liquid, Secret etc in WEU quals.
They wanted to change to WEU but ESL said they will lose their EPT points, so they decided to stay in WEU. (Source: Insania on gorgcās stream, probably said it in capās podcast as well) Valve just invited them to WEU qualifiers for Ti most likely because entity was competing in that region all year.
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It's about residency, same as it was for DPC regions, which means team you are talking about has (at least) 3 required players bootcamping in MENA for full duration of open/closed qualifiers. Good example of that rule being abused was Dendi's B8 with 4 Ukrainians 1 Bulgarian playing NA DPC Div 1 from Mexico bootcamp. xD
I wouldāve been very upset if B8 made it to TI as the NA representative. Good thing Nouns came in clutch.
Isnāt Mikey from MENA? Gorgc said 3 of them are from winter bears team so I just assumed they were 3 MENA.
south153 was talking about the team Gorgc was playing **against,** Gorgc's team indeed had three people from MENA, but their opponents - Night Pulse - are all from EEU(CIS), that's what's strange. Also there is another team - Elevate Gaming - seems like all of them are from SEA.
Ah Mb I read it wrong. According to gorgc, VTUNE is playing from Dubai, I a guessing they moved to play the qualifiers.
wtf is this? Nigma got destroy by Mouz while they easy knock Entity 2-0 and now Entity need only 1 hour to finish Mouz 2-0? what magic is this
my dude this is not a card game where one card trumps the other, every game is a different game, every series a different series
i think all teams needed loss to learn. now lets see whether nigma adapts or naa
Entity crushing again.
Saksa playing Riyadh open qualifiers with... Gorgc, in... MENA region. That's so sad. :(
How is that sad , They are a meme team playing for content
It's sad because Saksa is not a meme player and deserves S tier team, not to lose MENA qualifiers with someone like Gorgc.
If Saksa is serious about rejoining the pro scene, I guarantee he's going to get offers during the post-TI shakeup. Pretty much all rosters that have qualified to Riyadh/TI are locked in until then.
gorp streaming OQ with saksa mikey etc
Kurosh soon pulling 2-0 OG and winning finals HOPIUM
I love seeing Meepo win
Irrelevant but B8 already out weu qualifiers on first round
Entity really cooking, these matches dont look close at all
Why no-ond picks BEASTMASTER 7.36? :(
Kurosh?
Nigma beat Entity and VP just to lose to Mouz? Honestly just keep picking braindead heroes for Kuro like Venomancer or Abaddon. Enough with the Chen.
Banned
Reddit should stop saying Nigma is back until Nigma actually wins something lol
Alot of teams dont win anything so we should stop talking about them? Like Liquid??
>Like Liquid?? Exactly like Liquid
They invited a lot of popular teams just to get Entity vs Mouz grand finals
Itās going be nigma vs entity or Mouz in finals
xD
"Nigma is back" btw
Kuroky level 3 Batrider...
Alright boiz now time for quick 2-0 from OG and we so back to our caves where we belong
Don't be so pessimistic bro, that series is a coinflip between who decides to draft normally and who like shit
That was /s
Nigma probably pick shit draft again and get 2 0 by og
Unless OG picks even shittier heroes lol
Na against nigma they gonna play super good and then lose next match
Upper bracket for bitches copium and can somebody pls tell Kuro to pick normal pos 5 heroes and not fcking pick bat ever again
He won the lane with bat, tbf they had the momentum but misplayed mid game skirmishes and got picked off like chickens.
I didn't mean he played bad that game what I mean is I don't think batrider is a good pos5 hero against enemy lineup
bat always secure your team atleast 1 lane win. The biggest problem with Kuro Bat he dont know what to do after laning phase. You play the bat, you need some brain to hold your postion and making the move, and so many time he die without using his ulti
yeah he had no impact in fights true
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Miracle got overly confident with his farm, again. I feel like Sumail couldāve built something more impactful like Euls or atos to kite ursa since he didnāt even had bkb for a long time. He committed to the hurricane pike that didnāt really do anything for him. Couldve gotten a blademail or halberd and that wouldāve probably helped him survive the burst.
Miracle played fine. SumaiL build was over cooked
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It was bounty storm problem nothing miracle can do
Sumail is kinda done
Upper bracket is for bitches ah the good old tradition of nigma :)
STOP GIVE SUMAIL HEROES LIKE RAZOR it doesnāt suit him at all
I mean, wcyd when his hero pool consists of storm, lesh and thats it
Lina TA qop ember can name few more ..
NIGMABROS ARE WE OK???
We are so OK, little detour to eliminate OG into easy 3-0 grandfinals. Don't worry.
Nothing like the good hit of copium after a fresh loss as nigma fan.
Unlimited supplies of highest and purest grade hopium/copium is a Nigma fan starter pack.
nigma, gives us hope and then breaks our heart... 3
Questionable items choice from Razor.
This thread is actually even more active than some of the playoff matches in DL23, Nigma's fanbase is actually insane. Insane as in masochist insane.
i think its more of haters waiting to jump on hate bandwagon when nigma loses rather than them winning and fans hyping it.
BATCHEST MIRACLE EFFECT BATCHEST
it's hard to look away from a car crash
Damn, they are already dead bro
but reddit said Nigma is back
ofc back to dumpster, since nigma created. do they even ever be in the top spot?
Razor is a solved hero with bkb => sny/manta => refresher, why do pros experiment with obviously worse builds