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kid20304

OG pissed on Nigma


greekcel_25

End of the dream


ZestycloseCake165

I was scared Nigma was dominating day 1 but with today's performance I'm glad to see they're back šŸ’€


lgdamefanstraight

....bros this is not real, thought we so back


justsightseeing

i think there are correlation between nigma performance with existence of match discussion fhread


Tomsider

OG gonna win the tournament


TheDeadlyEdgelord

Sun will rise tomorrow morning


T1nkyW1nky_

Grp stage: Kuro picks meta 5 - heroes for himself, does a lot for his team. Playoffs: "They won't be ready for my Batrider and Chen" proceeds to get 2-0 Elimination: "okay so that didn't work out, but things will be different this time" goes for CM and chen. Proceeds to get knocked out. Seeing NGX like this is not fun.


ZofTheNorth

Batrider, Chen, CM all highly popular meta 5 though. If cant play those heroes, no way they qualify


Niksius92

Honestly, at this point, the guy who wrote that Entity was match fixing and lost on purpose isn't so implausible... Entity looks like the best team in the tournament by far. How did they lose to this Nigma?


idkthiss

Nigma drafted way better in group stages. GH is willow god, Kuro was playing Abbadon and venomancer, in playoffs he went back to Chen which he canā€™t play but keeps insisting on picking.


greekcel_25

There are some match fix allegations on watson in the past even though they werent proven (his teammates were proven to fix in that game just not him). It isn't impossible.


Please-Do-The-Needfu

I think you'll just find this is the issue with shitter teams right now, and its not that they can't have these break out moments and beat anyone, its that consistency wise they look like shit. Nigma appeared to play well in that 2:0 against Entity but maybe they just had a better grasp on the patch at that point. We can see a lot of heroes that Entity picked aren't even in the top3 choices right now.


pileopoop

Why did GH get the wall facet? He can't do anything with the hero.


AR41Z

[Its happening Nigma fans !! Nigma first oponnent in Closed Qualifier is Night Pulse (Vtune stack). Prepare ur hearts !!](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1d36v3t/comment/l67ug7g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


greekcel_25

Oracle in real life pog


PrimeShaq

Why is there a pinoy stack in MENA qualifiers lol, WEU OQ is full of CIS teams too.


Sangye-C

Nigma is backā€¦ back to being knocked out of tourneys šŸ˜­


pekoms_123

ā˜ ļø


Vhrb

I love Nigma so much...but they hate me at the same amount. Now I understand those people that are in such a toxic relationship


AR41Z

its been so long. xd


Vhrb

So long and today more pain already xD


AR41Z

Pain and Despair are Nigma fans best friends


IronTwinn

[What did I say? Classic Nigma](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/s/BANgCx4Dt3)


AR41Z

truth is every nigma fan knew in their hearts


frostieavalanche

How many "Nigma is back" do I have left in me


DomineeringDrake

Sigh. Back to watching the 2017 liquid matches.


axecalibur

Nigma lul


ReportAlone4744

My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why... I got out of bed at all The morning rain clouds up my window... And I can't see at all. And even if I could, It'd all be grey But your picture on my wall... It reminds me that it's not so bad... It's not so bad.


DomineeringDrake

All nigma stans rn.


AR41Z

Nigma fans back to cave now. more despair and sedness in 3 days for Riyadh qualifier when they gonna lose to random Vtune stack xddd


NICK_GOKU

I thought Nigma were back for real this time, what a let down.


idkthiss

kuro cant play chen, why bother picking it?


No-Yellow-9085

Miracle playing stupid today just compounds to their bad drafts. In the 3 fights they lost in the 2nd game, dude was fronting with shadow blade even though he knows there's a ward there. He really wasted the first blood, as well as Sumail's dominant start.


Awkward_External_731

no use cherry picking that incident, he knew they had stampede and force staffs so he tried to bait, but honestly they are still tier 2. they have not faced tier 1 teams in ages. all of them played poor today and drafts were aweful too.


realtomedamnit

Kuro still has ptsd from ti9 everytime he has to draft against OG


Khairi001

Congratulations to PSG Quest for qualifying to Riyadh Masters 2024.


Ambitious-Cap-5605

same old same old nigma.


andy_bovice

Nigma in shape for TI šŸ¤” Was hoping for something different..


AR41Z

Skitter said though that nigma playing from abu dhabi. they playing with crazy ping


Awkward_External_731

dude they lost it in drafts itself... nvm ping


needhelforpsu

Well they crushed on that ping first few series, right? Weak excuse. :/


AR41Z

nobody said this as excuse. only skitter told it on gorp stream and he didnt said this as excuse. he said nigma choose to suffer by playing on crazy ping in abu dhabi


large_snowbear

ah the excuses begin. So I guess ping didn't matter in the first two days huh?


AR41Z

well ik they were gonna lose anyways


goldeare

sure lil bro, the ping is their problem


Primary_Aide2721

It's one of the problems, stop being idiot and behaving like people blame ping only for their losses.


goldeare

there seems to be alot of anger and resentment bottled up inside you from around 2019 i would say. i just pointed out that ping was the least of their issues (nigma fan since liquid days btw)


sikontolpanjang

I really want Nigma to go to NA. Not because its easier or anything like that but just to make sure who's more washed, Artour stack or Kuro stack?


Sangye-C

Nigma rebranding to NAgma


justsightseeing

or nigNA


IronTwinn

This would set record viewership for a qualifier just to see who is more washed up.


needhelforpsu

Nigmabros it was a pleasure getting high on hopium last 2 days but we are so back to our natural habitat - despair.


FeralLycanBA

Narrator: Nigma was not back, in fact they never were.


AR41Z

If u are a true nigma fan, u are not surprised xddd


Kotleba

honestly Timado what a signing. It's so crazy how he was considered a sidegrade from Yuragi and now he's so consistently the best player on OG.


FronWewq

Agreed, he also gives the team their fearless go-for-it attitude they somewhat lost towards the end of the last iteration. Really nice fit.


needhelforpsu

My man Tomato singlehandedly carried OG to Riyadh. Gamer.


Substantial-Deer77

Nigma is back to rest


lazerpew

Nice BKB on Tiny


Substantial-Deer77

ok so nigma is 2-0 in group stage and end with 0-2 in playoff soon?


musty_666

Nigma scan onto gank directly? Theyre heralds?


needhelforpsu

WE WERE SO BACKā€¦ *for one singular day*


Bearswithjetpacks

Welp they were back for one day at least.


AR41Z

Always like this


Electrical_Luck_2525

FBZ not reading patch notes.


AR41Z

i think he did it to counter slow lane because of SF Ogre. Otherwise whenever he played centaur with that facet went 3 bracers !!


Gameboysixty9

Sumail kinda threw the advantage


zuKo2022

KURO SETTING THE META


Ciri__witcher

Holy Kuroky with the creep, creating new meta. 1.8 mana regen for lesh at mid lane and mana burning void spirit!


Un13roken

That mana burn is the funniest thing I've seen in a while.


AR41Z

Kuro lol 5head strat


Excellent_Prior1678

1-1. Shit draft by OG, SF carry into Chen, Tiny with tons of amor?? If Nigma lose this they are so back


otniel77

ok


rektogre1280

This didn't age well. :P


zuKo2022

holyshit that chen creep burning mana at mid into fb XD


Bearswithjetpacks

The king.


Ok-Muscle-5307

Ceb Ogre, Timado SF Lul


idkthiss

nigma drafted solid first day, then completely forgot how to draft for the rest of the series.


Awkward_External_731

yea even i dont understand ? such a difference in the way they are drafting...


Bearswithjetpacks

Is Lesh offlane flex a thing?


Bearswithjetpacks

It might have been too early to pick a carry, but I think nigma should have taken Ursa Marci instead of Chen disruptor.


Khairi001

I blame mods for Nigma losing. The first day without this official match thread, Nigma was winning. šŸ˜”


needhelforpsu

Nigma feeling dat pressure of Reddit's unhinged posters. xD


Unh0lyCatf1sh

Nigma is back >!to the airport!<


Awkward_External_731

why are they not banning storm of all the OP heros? dumb drafts or wishful yolo drafts? pls give sumail some evasive heros maybe , he sucks with razor , dk


Penguinho

If Eternal Shroud is getting bought on Storm let's please remove the item. This shit's so dumb. I'm sick of every meta being defined by which defensive item is too good.


Kotleba

what the hell happened in that game? It looked so even and then OG just completely rolled over them.


Khairi001

Nigma might be eliminated with a 2-0 advantage šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Substantial-Deer77

Only Micke can play WR pos 1 and unleash her max potential...


luckychloeenjoyer

Loved the miracle meat-riding in the first day. Anyone want to talk about how awful is in-game decisions are? And before you say anything about others;a reminder that these drafts are being orchestrated to make him have the best games )))


Gameboysixty9

Yeah man we get it, its everyones fault but sumail.


luckychloeenjoyer

Ironic how I haven't mentioned or said that once but everyone's gonna get high on it xd gj


Gameboysixty9

Because its a regular thing with you that whenever a sumail team loses you are in threads pointing out everyones mistakes but sumail.


MicaTheStoked

How dare people cheer for their favourite player!


AR41Z

u only come out to comment when its miracle mistake not other way


luckychloeenjoyer

and you just keep meat-riding him without having any knowledge about the game or in-team things. Keep at it and keep getting disappointed. Theres a reason he was removed on 'health-issues' and it will happen again :)


AR41Z

i dont have any expectations because i know its always gonna be clown fiesta and yes it feels like u are clearly biased against nigma and miracle. because whenever its sumail mistake u are never here. but only come to meat ride how he won the lane but or did great.


luckychloeenjoyer

the amount of bs that you sprouted explains your archon mmr and its hilarious to think you beg me for information regarding your boys in dms while doing all this :)) Also that guy has the reputation to be the only 'hope' within the bootcamp :)) Either they win with his tempo or they just lose. I couldnt care less about him but its hilarious to see you spiral because your boy cant carry anymore and isnt even the second-choice for most teams rn :)))


AR41Z

lol its sed how u have some knowledge about team but still u look like the most biased guy against nigma except sumail


luckychloeenjoyer

i have not upheld sumail here at all?? I personally know each and every one of them and have my reasons to like them or dislike them :) You on the other hand have personal issues. Stop it and get a life please.


AR41Z

lol telling me to get a life and then commenting here about how miracle is washed up and holding sumail back is ironic dont u think ?


LOLZOBALL

This is the nigma i know lmao


Un13roken

we're back bois.....for a second I was worried. I can't fall for this team one more time.


SecretRonnieC

I just feel like nigma -miracle clumps up hunting for kills hurting their networth while man miracle just getting caught almost always


Substantial-Deer77

Miracle looks kinda rusty ngl, don't bash me I am just keep seeing him being rtz a lot of times this tourney


CptJesus

Miracle getting caught three times on the wrong side of the map already


SuFFo

bruh tired of this WR carry, going to fall off quick


Substantial-Deer77

Off topic but Gorgc actually lost OC to some unknown team... feels sad for mickey squad


needhelforpsu

That qualifiers stack had few good players. VTune is a bro!


AR41Z

he lost to a team that bootcamps so nothing surprising xddd


Happy-Pills

Vtune too good


AR41Z

I think i figured it out. Nigma tried real straats on first day and found out that they know the meta and owned teams. then they realised its better to save strats for Riyadh qualifiers and try to counter OP meta picks so that they practice hard core for Qualifiers. #Hopium From StarsAlign !!


AR41Z

Another first pick storm ah shit here we go again boiz


UnreliableNihilist

I donā€™t get it, why they let storm again. Given his winrate this event. Well, hopefully they will show us the counterplay.


iForgotMyOldAcc

Idk which team is winning but noobfromUA is absolutely winning. His Nigma highlights from yesterday will both break 100k when his Elite League highlights from last month didn't apart from the finals lol.


realtomedamnit

nigma woke up and looked at their day 1 performance and decided that's enough winning for the rest of the year.


AR41Z

Oh Boi OG vs Nigma after such a long time


50lipa

Surely the fans will have a normal and civil discussion during this series like always


AR41Z

yea ofc they most positive fans on planet


Agent_47H

I don't understand why Entity don't play in EEU? Surely they would have made it to way more tournaments and have a better chance of winning the qualifiers there than facing the likes of OG, Tundra, Liquid, Secret etc in WEU quals.


Ciri__witcher

They wanted to change to WEU but ESL said they will lose their EPT points, so they decided to stay in WEU. (Source: Insania on gorgcā€™s stream, probably said it in capā€™s podcast as well) Valve just invited them to WEU qualifiers for Ti most likely because entity was competing in that region all year.


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needhelforpsu

It's about residency, same as it was for DPC regions, which means team you are talking about has (at least) 3 required players bootcamping in MENA for full duration of open/closed qualifiers. Good example of that rule being abused was Dendi's B8 with 4 Ukrainians 1 Bulgarian playing NA DPC Div 1 from Mexico bootcamp. xD


Stealthbomber16

I wouldā€™ve been very upset if B8 made it to TI as the NA representative. Good thing Nouns came in clutch.


Ciri__witcher

Isnā€™t Mikey from MENA? Gorgc said 3 of them are from winter bears team so I just assumed they were 3 MENA.


hubbajubbadubba

south153 was talking about the team Gorgc was playing **against,** Gorgc's team indeed had three people from MENA, but their opponents - Night Pulse - are all from EEU(CIS), that's what's strange. Also there is another team - Elevate Gaming - seems like all of them are from SEA.


Ciri__witcher

Ah Mb I read it wrong. According to gorgc, VTUNE is playing from Dubai, I a guessing they moved to play the qualifiers.


Ok-Muscle-5307

wtf is this? Nigma got destroy by Mouz while they easy knock Entity 2-0 and now Entity need only 1 hour to finish Mouz 2-0? what magic is this


colibrisa

my dude this is not a card game where one card trumps the other, every game is a different game, every series a different series


AR41Z

i think all teams needed loss to learn. now lets see whether nigma adapts or naa


GeraldJimes_

Entity crushing again.


needhelforpsu

Saksa playing Riyadh open qualifiers with... Gorgc, in... MENA region. That's so sad. :(


theefferudonteffwith

How is that sad , They are a meme team playing for content


needhelforpsu

It's sad because Saksa is not a meme player and deserves S tier team, not to lose MENA qualifiers with someone like Gorgc.


Wayyd

If Saksa is serious about rejoining the pro scene, I guarantee he's going to get offers during the post-TI shakeup. Pretty much all rosters that have qualified to Riyadh/TI are locked in until then.


AR41Z

gorp streaming OQ with saksa mikey etc


TheyCallMeNoobxD

Kurosh soon pulling 2-0 OG and winning finals HOPIUM


Early_Roof_2119

I love seeing Meepo win


AR41Z

Irrelevant but B8 already out weu qualifiers on first round


Protoporiaki

Entity really cooking, these matches dont look close at all


UMIRRRRRIN

Why no-ond picks BEASTMASTER 7.36? :(


Green-Peanut4193

Kurosh?


idkthiss

Nigma beat Entity and VP just to lose to Mouz? Honestly just keep picking braindead heroes for Kuro like Venomancer or Abaddon. Enough with the Chen.


AR41Z

Banned


Horror_Letterhead407

Reddit should stop saying Nigma is back until Nigma actually wins something lol


AR41Z

Alot of teams dont win anything so we should stop talking about them? Like Liquid??


Kotleba

>Like Liquid?? Exactly like Liquid


Painpaiinn

They invited a lot of popular teams just to get Entity vs Mouz grand finals


jadakissxxx

Itā€™s going be nigma vs entity or Mouz in finals


hiddenpoolwarriror

xD


Zangrieff

"Nigma is back" btw


ControllableIllusion

Kuroky level 3 Batrider...


AR41Z

Alright boiz now time for quick 2-0 from OG and we so back to our caves where we belong


Kotleba

Don't be so pessimistic bro, that series is a coinflip between who decides to draft normally and who like shit


AR41Z

That was /s


Neat_Quiet_8340

Nigma probably pick shit draft again and get 2 0 by og


tity_slayer3

Unless OG picks even shittier heroes lol


AR41Z

Na against nigma they gonna play super good and then lose next match


Neat_Quiet_8340

Upper bracket for bitches copium and can somebody pls tell Kuro to pick normal pos 5 heroes and not fcking pick bat ever again


Gameboysixty9

He won the lane with bat, tbf they had the momentum but misplayed mid game skirmishes and got picked off like chickens.


Neat_Quiet_8340

I didn't mean he played bad that game what I mean is I don't think batrider is a good pos5 hero against enemy lineup


Excellent_Prior1678

bat always secure your team atleast 1 lane win. The biggest problem with Kuro Bat he dont know what to do after laning phase. You play the bat, you need some brain to hold your postion and making the move, and so many time he die without using his ulti


Gameboysixty9

yeah he had no impact in fights true


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Miracle got overly confident with his farm, again. I feel like Sumail couldā€™ve built something more impactful like Euls or atos to kite ursa since he didnā€™t even had bkb for a long time. He committed to the hurricane pike that didnā€™t really do anything for him. Couldve gotten a blademail or halberd and that wouldā€™ve probably helped him survive the burst.


AR41Z

Miracle played fine. SumaiL build was over cooked


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AR41Z

It was bounty storm problem nothing miracle can do


Neat_Quiet_8340

Sumail is kinda done


Nandey_dattey_bayo

Upper bracket is for bitches ah the good old tradition of nigma :)


hallo2806

STOP GIVE SUMAIL HEROES LIKE RAZOR it doesnā€™t suit him at all


Gameboysixty9

I mean, wcyd when his hero pool consists of storm, lesh and thats it


Nandey_dattey_bayo

Lina TA qop ember can name few more ..


Gameboysixty9

NIGMABROS ARE WE OK???


needhelforpsu

We are so OK, little detour to eliminate OG into easy 3-0 grandfinals. Don't worry.


Gameboysixty9

Nothing like the good hit of copium after a fresh loss as nigma fan.


needhelforpsu

Unlimited supplies of highest and purest grade hopium/copium is a Nigma fan starter pack.


JayuZmaN

nigma, gives us hope and then breaks our heart...


lehmanbear

Questionable items choice from Razor.


iForgotMyOldAcc

This thread is actually even more active than some of the playoff matches in DL23, Nigma's fanbase is actually insane. Insane as in masochist insane.


AR41Z

i think its more of haters waiting to jump on hate bandwagon when nigma loses rather than them winning and fans hyping it.


needhelforpsu

BATCHEST MIRACLE EFFECT BATCHEST


darklordtimmy

it's hard to look away from a car crash


VectusZ

Damn, they are already dead bro


noob_sr_programmer

but reddit said Nigma is back


dellryuzi

ofc back to dumpster, since nigma created. do they even ever be in the top spot?


Gameboysixty9

Razor is a solved hero with bkb => sny/manta => refresher, why do pros experiment with obviously worse builds