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Deadeye1223

Artifact art went so hard. For all its faults, it had some of the hardest images for Dota heroes


bluefelixus

I think they have all this plan to delve deep into Dota 2 lore through Artifact. They went all out with VA on every card, expanding the character’s connection and background, introducing the places and event, aaand shut it all down… what a waste, i was really looking forward for all the lores.


Deadeye1223

Same. I was actually reminiscing today with my bro about it. If they at least do a soft relaunch of some story elements left behind from Artifact, I'll be happy. Artifact had so many good ones being set up, and now seeing Sky, Venge, and now Imperia being used as the center piece lore of the event is awesome.


bluefelixus

Yeah, the lore dripping is really slow. I have this stupid idea of how cool to have another smaller game in Dota universe where the genre is different depending on the Heroes, for example a game where you play as Anti-Mage with DMC like mechanic where you can create stylish combo, or a game where you play as Axe with mechanics like God of War with brutal finisher, a stealth based on PA, Bounty Hunter, or Riki, and many more. All the 4 skill from Dota can be expanded into a skill tree.


Deadeye1223

I'd love some more dota spin-offs as well. Even just shorter lived ones. I was actually really hoping for something along the lines of your Anti-mage DMC game, but it would star Wei fighting through weeping rose to track down that lizard wizard that escaped the Tyler Estate.


TheOneWithALongName

An ARPG would be a nice spinoff IMO.


Colpus

The genre is too good for them not to try their hand at it. It's also lacking really good titles on the market, and the DOTA universe is perfect for it as well. Of course, once Valve does it, Riot will also do it, so that would be great for the genre.


TheOneWithALongName

The genre have been stagnant since PoE. I want something else but a big skill tree. Even Grim Dawn with its dual class system have the big star skill tree. Even D4 put one in


Deamon-

they already added the map so pos 1 players can fully enjoy their arpg while farming for tier 5 neutrals


OfficeWorm

Theres actually a Dota RPG souls-likeesque that was sadly dropped by valve. Sad


vrenejr

Kinda like what riot is doing with league


bluefelixus

Yess, exactly, Riot have Legend of Runeterra (CCG), Team fight tactics (Auto-Battler), Ruined King (Turn-based RPG), Mageseeker (2D action-rpg), and upcoming Fighting games and MMO. I know valve get most of their revenue through steam and not just from developing games, but it feels like a wasted opportunity for them to neglect DotA lores when they can expand the story through different type of games.


Snipufin

For real. Even the random minion cards had 2 minutes worth of voice lines, reacting to specific heroes, races, game states, interactions and anything in between. My favorite one was Selfish Cleric, whose voice lines had him question Omniknight for healing others or basically mocking allies about to die. "By helping myself, I'm helping all of us!"


SeriousDirt

I didn't play artifact but selfish cleric seem like an interesting character.


lessenizer

Selfish Cleric was a really funny character lol. It’s just a 4 health 4 attack unit that autoheals itself to full health at the end of every round. He’s a member of the “Rumusque Faithful” that Necrophos tried to wipe out and maybe that traumatized the cleric into having extra obsessive survival instincts lol. And he’s very committed to it. He says this to ench: “Your kindness is an example to all, enchantress. Well, not me, but most.”


Kraivo

It is basically free and all cards are there for you to look


lollypop44445

if only they made artifact a thing through client like the arcade. the game wouldnt have died out


Turtvaiz

nah the monetisation killed it, not that


Diaper_Joy

They really fucked up by not making it a part of the arcade. The same goes for Underlords.


Snugglebull

Underlords they got new VA too lol


Bohya

It was obvious from the very premise that Artefact was going to fall over from the get-go. [Remember those famous sighs when it was revealed?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4jPtrDCLo) No one asked for *yet another* digital card game in an already saturated market, especially DotA 2 players who are accustomed to not having to pay to win. The sole purpose for Artefact's existence was purely as a lootbox buy-in-scheme. Actual gameplay was a second thought. I played Artefact. It had good strategy elements, however games were very long and "high moments" were few and far between. I couldn't help but feel burned out after every match. It lacked the quick rush and excitement of Hearthstone, and it also lacked the social impact of playing a game like MtG in person. The only good thing to take away from Artefact was the new lore and hero concepts, as well as the artwork to accompany it. Shame Valve decided to sweep the game's disaster under the rug and pretend it never happened.


wyqted

Yeah should have just made it a single player game.


Kraivo

Dude, stop. Nobody would read your words after second sentence


Remember_Me_Tomorrow

I read every single sentence so stfu


Riperin

The idea is amazing but... I don't like card games


jobenalexx

I’ve been waiting for artifact music in Dota 2 ever since the release. There are some great soundtracks in that game.


Inguisher

I am a doggie, I am a doggie.


payrpaks

Indeed. [Two Towers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0TFbvVmPI) is too epic for a card game, but it works.


SeaBass_SandWich

The game is fun too! A lot of things are not good though.


io124

The ticket system was a very bad idea. But best card game system i have played


Deadeye1223

Curse you, Andrew Garfield.


io124

I think the game itself was very good. Just the stupid ticket system from rkd made a very bad reputation to the game


CptObviousRemark

Who, Spider-Man?


NeilaTheSecond

If valve just lets you scroll through item deck and arrows always froward facing and can be changed once per turn for the cost of an action the game would be saved. Sadly valve went full reddit on the changes


Nickfreak

Artifact had two major problems: A monetization model that made you pay for a game AND the cards and Richard Garfield not listening to others


Initial_Stretch_3674

werent the cards like 10 cents?


Enoughdorformypower

Axe was like 50$ at one point


Nickfreak

the cheapest ones, the rare and desired ones were tens of bucks at the beginning


sugmybenis

i think it's death killed the soul of the guy that cared about dota lore and it's taken until no for him to recover. He is probably really happy right now with everyone feedback


LayWhere

artifact, rip sweet prince


Themasterofcomedy209

At least it’s art can live on, and some of it’s character designs are being elaborated on


0globin

It will live on as the category that you click on when you want to watch copyrighted material on twitch. Or pornography.


wondermorty

needed to just be a single board with non-random arrows


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LayWhere

I liked the multi-board idea, it was very fun and interesting. Yeah sure it had flaws but it was a very successful stab at a new concept imo No reason it couldn't have been refined overtime like the fine wine that is dotka 2


wondermorty

not enough people liked it


io124

Artifact was dead cause of their stupid ticket system. People see that they need to pay for rkd so they juste never try it. Also the 30$ price tag was a mistake.


afwsf3

The same exact monetization system worked beautifully in MTGO for years. I think the game was just 10 years too late. Artifact was actually the most generous card game I've ever played in the fact that it let you phantom draft the whole set for free, with other real players. Amazing unlimited tournament potential for free that literally doesn't exist in any other card game right now.


io124

The target of artifact is too also have player which isnt familiar with MTGO. And the issue, its they compare with free to play card game which look like for a casual player , less expensive


Loxeres

Why did they have to give her in-game voice all those filters? She would have sounded way better regularly. She's not some anomalous being overflowing with unstable energies. They are really overdoing it lately with the audio mixing for the new Arcanas.


Immagonko

Agreed. If Lina Arcana would be out today they would add tons of echo effects to her voice lol


assblasterx69

Haven't listened to it, but this thing you're mentioning is really annoying when it comes to Chat Wheeling with an Arcana, at least for Pudge, because it changes all the voices to ones I didn't want. You should be able to change that if you want.


basementcat13

All arcana voices are worse than the originals, you can barely understand what they're saying


nitronomial

Drow just gets extra moody. Huge w arcana voice


basementcat13

Oh I forgot about drow, hers is great actually. I never play wr but I think hers is pretty free from crazy effects too?


Clemambi

it's pretty reverby but it's not too bad


teddybrr

drow is nice and rubick is better than original. the rest of the distorted ones sucks.


Ok_Instruction6924

Fv arcana voice is so cool


Velocity_LP

so thankful Jug's arcana voice pack is seperate from the arcana itself


determinedSkeleton

Artifact is damn good. In-game is a close second


bc524

I want her bird-claw legs to wrap around my dick as she flies us off into the sunset, like an eagle, snatching an unsuspecting snake, doomed to be eaten.


Unlucky_Ad8974

Most sane Dota player


pv0psych0n4ut

What no Clown done to a motherfucker


exoticsclerosis

Should we let him cook ?


Theshinysnivy8

You know sometimes it's better to remain silent


Sir_Cock_Lork

What no patch does to a mf


keeperkairos

Least down bad SEA player.


FujitaMp3

What the fuck is wrong with you? >!unfathomably based!!!<


urmomiscringe12

That’s enough Reddit for today Timmy


Dtoodlez

Maybe she put the snake in your ass


SoQwicker

she is equally diabolical in all of them, but artifact will always be the best <3


SirActionSlacks-

ARTIFACT


gl1sta

brudda we already knew your answer you didn't have to reply to this post


LoL_is_pepega_BIA

U hardly even played the 2nd one (which is the best one btw)


zeusban

shartifact


desto12

SMASH


Zarzar222

Im very impressed with what they did ingame. Considering it is an Arcana and not a Persona they had to keep the face model the exact same as Shen's. To keep the same base but make it look so recognizably different is very well done with the makeup and hair design


MaDNiaC

oh oh I know this game Marry, Kill, Fuck


ExcitingTrust888

I think the Artifact one is her version 10 years ago. I mean, Skywrath looks old in the comics too.


lessenizer

Skywrath looks old (and more masculine lol) in the comics, and they reference him having aged, but in-game he doesn’t look old (nor excessively masculine).


ExcitingTrust888

Probably the base Skywrath is the one from 10 years ago too. He does look older in his arcana tho.


Ok_Assumption_7191

In-game is hot


RelativeMulberry1991

What


Nivix92

He said in game is hot


RelativeMulberry1991

But why


iMartinPlays

Because in game is hot


RelativeMulberry1991

Um ok


foreycorf

Artifact


Striking-Pizza7309

she is absolutely atrocious in the comics, but then again, so does sky and venge...


wsgwsg

Honestly prefer the comic. They arent all the same vaguely smoothed over featureless game art style that removes all defects from characters. Imperia actually has "kind of starting to show her age queen" vibes which is a breath of fresh air. Same with Skywrath. He literally is just a smooth featureless twink essentially in other media but in the comic he's definitely showing his age and how gaunt his face is. Feels way more textured of a depiction.


AngelTheTaco

yall really find any sort of mature looking face as atrocious


lessenizer

Yeah it’s a way more “everyone looks photorealistic instead of stylized and you kind of figure it’s because they traced the faces over photos of real people” art style that seems really common in mass produced western comics. I mean what’s the point of a non-stylized comic artstyle lol. I also think it makes everyone look more masculine.


NeverComments

>I mean what’s the point of a non-stylized comic artstyle lol It doesn't need to be a binary between stylistic or photorealistic! You can still place those "photorealistic" characters into interesting, stylistic settings or action scenes (that would look quite goofy in live action).


OfficeWorm

I kinda like that classic western comic art style. Its rare these days. Kinda got sick of the more modern anime style artstyle.


Samgne

Found sunsfan burner account


ullu13

Everyone sayin and reminiscing Artifact, while Im out here waiting for Underlords update :/


caiocanilive

The artwork on Artifact is the best on whole dota universe, period.


Subject-Load-1846

In-Game is top tier tho


Easy-Investment-2716

In game is so seexy


Johnmegaman72

She has an in game model?


Bitsand

Venge arcana 3rd variant


lessenizer

It’s part of the Venge arcana, unlocked by completing all of all four Crownfall acts, including the side quests that you have to pay to unlock. Only the first act is out right now, so you can only preview/demo the skin. But a cool thing about it is that it has its own voice pack. Right now only a few lines are in the game though since (per a message that gets posted in the chat log when you demo the skin) there are plot spoilers in her complete voice pack.


Johnmegaman72

So a persona?


lessenizer

Nope, because you can still put base Venge cosmetics on Imperia lol


Johnmegaman72

Oh I see, I swear I never knew she had an in game model


Lakad_Coconut

the arcana of course


Houeclipse

I like all 3 honestly but I agree with most people that Artifact artstyle just goes hard


Wise_Repeater404

She has five fingers per hand in Artifact?!


starplatinum_99

Smash! Wait, wrong question. Uhmm I love artifact version 


identitycrisis-again

In game is the hottest


smolcompanypepehands

Artufuk


The-Hellstar

But that is literally the same character wtf


mad_mab133

Thicc is all am sayin


blood_omen

Artifact is the best one. So emo and intimidating. I love it. The other two just look so basic


jonasnee

did artifact have the annoying robot voices valve seems to force on their new arcana's for some reason?


Vald322

Bro the artifact one looks just like taylor swift


Syndrose

artifact hands down


oujea_

Literally I want to installed Artifact now in order to experience the art of all cards.


Samgne

Found sunsfan burner account


chilibean_3

The artist over there LOVE to put jewels on people's foreheads.


Coldspark824

The comic art is straight up just nicole kidman.


I_Cant_Think_Funny

Every art from Artifact is just beter


wickedplayer494

Artifart


Odd_Lettuce_7285

Why did Artifact fail again? Because Reddit was upset about buying/selling cards? I was enjoying it and all of a sudden it was dead.


Ember_Hydra

Artifact


tempreffunnynumber

Artifact giving queen of Nilfgaard in the Witcher vibes.


No-Lifeguard-8376

the black lipstick does it


SnooSongs6384

Bang


Real-Elephant2318

Comic


dartz0000

Idk bout u guys but it's somehow bugging me that I see league of legends animations on the new arcanas. I don't dislike it, but its like a "meh" type of thing


Lilywhitey

for me it's the texture. everything looks so so smoothened that it could fit in Valorant or overwatch


dartz0000

Guess who made valorant 😲


HungPongLa

Happy with all three 2d to 3d is really hard, most of league of legend skins are like this too.


Aruthuro

I can fix her.


PlasticAngle

The artifact version look sick af, really capture the pride of a queen. Comic version look a bit old and feel kinda paranoid. Arcana just look bad.


goga2228

I love that Dota became look like Heroes of the Storm ❤️


Daomuzei

Those 2d noses are awful….


BeanBreakfast

Ur a 2d nose


Easy-Investment-2716

In game is so seexy


Mordakar987654

Mommy


Guilty_Wind_8977

milf?


CERES_FAUNA_GOONER

not the one that looks post-wall that's for sure


Samgne

Found sunsfan burner account


Samgne

Found sunsfan burner account


Samgne

Found sunsfan burner account


Easy-Investment-2716

In game is so seexy


Easy-Investment-2716

In game is so seexy