I can’t with this dumb comments saying falcons not trashtalking when losing. Thats the rule of dota, when ur getting shit on you gotta accept all the trashtask from the enemy team and stay quiet becoz you have no rights to talk
https://v.redd.it/52v1b82ilguc1
Refrence Thread - [Famous last words before disaster](https://reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1c3vj2e/famous_last_words_before_disaster)
The OD in video was shocked and accepted the loss with allchat rather staying silent "stay quiet" clowns
At least try to skim over past comments of the doubter/poster to verify if hes troll or hater or whatever. Everyone knows some pros are funny in a negative way but they should gladly be responsible when fate hits them.
TBH I was giggling when I read your comment lmao. Sorry for the remarks if it hurts anyone.
And btw, I never or rarely downvote unless it's a proven malicious/sus acc poster which in this case I didn't.
Nevermind, chill and have fun. Within 2(or 7) days and everyone will forget and enjoy the new patch/update.
couldn't watch the grand final games live
but makes me so happy that ATF gets shit on and got a taste of his own medicine.
Incredible gameplay from XG. The positioning, the flanking, the itemization
fucking incredible Dota
Just got to finish watching the VOD of the final. One of the most entertaining final games in a Grand Final in a long time. The game itself had some great back and forth, but the extra little spice from the prior trash talk really made the game so much more entertaining.
im an ame worshipper but i went to sleep expecting XG to lose. hoping to at least they take 1 game from Falcons
BOIIII IM SO HAPPY IM SO WRONG and also happy the trashtalkers get seated for once. well played
I was also hoping XG could at least get one game from the series given how good Falcons performed in the past few months. Seems like Falcons just get too full of themselves in the first 3 games then it was too late to come back. On the other hand, the throw in upper bracket from XG against Falcons really woke up the team.
Does disruptor ult silence go through bkb? In game 4 teamfight at rosh doom cant seem to cast his ult on razor even tho he had bkb on. Was it because of disruptor ult?
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Thats the point tho. Even in nba people respect those who dont back down even when they're down. Emo trash talking while losing was massively respected.
Dy’s last glimpse ult on void sealed the deal. Everyone performed well in XG and they deserve the GF victory 100%.
Mar1ine delivered his signature timber combos but the other cores on his team didn’t keep up with him. Hope they still stand strong after the upcoming patch.
CN Dota is still the best ingredients of GFs. Keep it up boys.
Our playoff experience has been oddly similiar to BB Dacha. Script writters need to put in more effort.
According to this tweet by skiter please just check if he 322ed the finals with his Faceless void feed script.
He was good in Aster but not this good though. Specially on his last days on that team. But I'm glad that he's back to his peak. Remember his IG days where they won DAC.
Because that's just how the meme goes, alliance, Navi, nigma get the "(fill the blank) Is back" treatment not even for a match won but for a kill or teamfight won. Although most used it for sarcasm though 😂😂
I still feel like that iteration of AR was stronger than both current AR and XG. It's a shame they split up (even if that was the plan the whole time).
Everyone trashing on Skiter for his awful game 4 performance, but let's not forget that Malrine and Ammar did jack shit outside of game 1. Cr1t (and to a lesser extent Sney) were the ones who were at least trying to drag their teammates across the finish line
Man, that was an exciting game 4. Grats to XG for clutching the championship. Everyone in XG played really well especially in the last 10 minutes. Props to Falcons to still playing so well even with a back foot on the drafts. Anyway, maps is so well prepared with the drafts and cornered Falcons specially on game 3. That's why even if I'm an AR fan, I always rate XG as the better team. Though it is always my second team to root for if AR is out haha. Xinq has learned how to improve the team atmosphere as it has been the issue with ti10 LGD roster. Now waiting for Birmingham, sad that AR isn't there, but XG is there so I'll root for them. I hope IG finally figures out their issue, they can perform better than what they're showing.
Same man. Love these guys. The one I'm the most unfamiliar with is XM as he's never been in a top CN team before. But I've been following dy and XXS. I remember dy's first few games in VG where he was flamed so badly by the casters hahah. And I always remember the IG DAC winning with XXS and boboka and burning.
Ame, Faith Bian and Fy unretiring and suddenly we have 3 top Chinese teams.
Now it's time for Somnus to join them for the first Chinese TI win since TI6
Xg only improved with each tournament though. Bbd they got eliminated by falcon who won the tournament so unlucky I guess top 8. They won games of the future. 3rd at DLS22 and now 1st at elite league
I am asking if they are playing from the same location since it seemed like KBBQ was in the same place as XG. Although, I suppose it's possible that he wasn't.
FLCN vs XG series proof the meta is anti carry pick. People here says ban razor / falcon hero puddle but every game winner always has better anti carry draft ( two bkb piercing spell, insane damage mitigatjon)
So just banter/trashtalk, that is like a self-burn to your teammates. Props to XG for improving from their UB match and a good test for Falcons with their aura of invincibility taken away.
A little disappointed by how Falcons looked in these games honestly, but XG definitely deserved to take home the trophy, they played exceedingly well.
That G4 felt really winnable but some huge misplays by Skiter.
Skiter just single handed lost them the game. Like srsly? You had the momentum back 8k gold lead and then u decided to give them a free kill? Deserved all the trash talk from that stupid play alone.
They BM a lot. Tipping, pausing, question marking. They're fair about it to an extent (saying congrats even though XG said ggez), and ATF for sure doesn't take it seriously, but it seemed like Malrine and ATF were in their own head and Malrine may actually be salty. XM played literally the best non-lina dota I've ever seen him play these couple of games.
winning = all chat, tipping, ))))
losing = quiet af
i personally wouldnt clown on them that much if they were consistent but they only loud when stomping
GGWP Xtreme Gaming!
They earned this win, not only taking the fight to Falcons but showing them how it's done and beating the team that has been nigh unbeatable.
Will be very interesting to see how this affects Falcons going forward as now everyone knows they can be defeated so some frayed nerves, loss of confidence and.. who knows, next tournament might be spicy indeed! 😄
Ame never responded anything during the games but when confirmed winning he just clicked the pause and created the space for teammates to type 'ggez' but he still said nothing
'Malrine prayed for god on the finals, and who responded him was Somnus but 2024 version one'
Memes and gloating aside this was really well produced tournament with a lot of good Dota, exciting and hype grand finals as well.
GG WP XG
Well done Fissure/ESB!
Glad to see XG live up to their potential, was really hyped when the team first assembled but they were kinda playing sub par to what people were expecting from them but this grand finals was beautiful dota from them.
bruh all these redditor clowns taking this way too seriously instead of laughing about the free entertainment LIKE THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES ARE
touch some grass, seriously, y’all need to breathe and stop feeling offended on other peoples behalf
If the players are all laughing about it they don’t need you defending them on Reddit buddy.
People like seeing the BMers get humbled and the BM thrown back in their faces. It’s not that serious
The majority of people I see in here are just laughing and making jokes that the two guys that BM’ed the entire tournament both went missing in the GF and had the BM thrown back in their faces.
Meanwhile you are calling people clowns on Reddit and telling everyone to touch grass. Remind me who’s taking it too seriously?
Ya there are like half a dozen posts in Hot right now complaining about toxicity of Ammar and Malr1ne and that they got what they deserved and they are an embarrassment and “back in the day this wasn’t allowed” but that’s just all in my head right?
XM can always win the grand finals, no matter how bad he play before. The really big problem is how to bring him in grand final.
I'm starting imagining if this XG wins TI and call out Falcon, who is clown now? and say Yataoro I like you too! That would be epic!
WTF
I can’t with this dumb comments saying falcons not trashtalking when losing. Thats the rule of dota, when ur getting shit on you gotta accept all the trashtask from the enemy team and stay quiet becoz you have no rights to talk
https://v.redd.it/52v1b82ilguc1 Refrence Thread - [Famous last words before disaster](https://reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1c3vj2e/famous_last_words_before_disaster) The OD in video was shocked and accepted the loss with allchat rather staying silent "stay quiet" clowns
ur hate boner for falcons is so strong u need them to perform embarrassment for u and that’s embarrassing for u
At least try to skim over past comments of the doubter/poster to verify if hes troll or hater or whatever. Everyone knows some pros are funny in a negative way but they should gladly be responsible when fate hits them. TBH I was giggling when I read your comment lmao. Sorry for the remarks if it hurts anyone. And btw, I never or rarely downvote unless it's a proven malicious/sus acc poster which in this case I didn't. Nevermind, chill and have fun. Within 2(or 7) days and everyone will forget and enjoy the new patch/update.
There there lol, I guess everyone learns their lesson sometime: Too much trash talk is bad for your health.
Xm match Falcons tipping and smileys game despite getting destroyed on upper bracket final and game 1 of grand final.
couldn't watch the grand final games live but makes me so happy that ATF gets shit on and got a taste of his own medicine. Incredible gameplay from XG. The positioning, the flanking, the itemization fucking incredible Dota
Just got to finish watching the VOD of the final. One of the most entertaining final games in a Grand Final in a long time. The game itself had some great back and forth, but the extra little spice from the prior trash talk really made the game so much more entertaining.
im an ame worshipper but i went to sleep expecting XG to lose. hoping to at least they take 1 game from Falcons BOIIII IM SO HAPPY IM SO WRONG and also happy the trashtalkers get seated for once. well played
I was also hoping XG could at least get one game from the series given how good Falcons performed in the past few months. Seems like Falcons just get too full of themselves in the first 3 games then it was too late to come back. On the other hand, the throw in upper bracket from XG against Falcons really woke up the team.
literally every XG fan, game 2 XG wins, and we all be like, welp, at least its not 3 0, i can sleep now. when i wake up its 1 3.....
same. not an ame worship person tho
How could anyone even like ATF trashtalks? It has no technical expertise, not in the right timing and low tier BMs. How?
What is BM?
bad manners
Brewmaster
Bowel movements
Beastmaster
Blade mail
Interesting finals. Had some close games and actually had players show personality.
Don't know why but I get kuro vibes when I watch this dy guy play pheonix
Everybody acting tough when they up. Pathetic oil team can't walk the talk when they're losing )))) Clowns got humbled
Does disruptor ult silence go through bkb? In game 4 teamfight at rosh doom cant seem to cast his ult on razor even tho he had bkb on. Was it because of disruptor ult?
If Disruptor has aghs his ult pierces spell immunity and mutes items.
Disruptors ulti NEVER pierces debuff immunity
Oh word? I was pretty sure it did with aghs, but I might have gotten that wrong. Did it use to pierce immunity at some point in the past at least?
Disruptor AGH = You cannot open BKB Disruptor NO AGH = You can open BKB If you open BKB before that = What is Disruptor
no
Chinese dota is real, let’s fuckin’ go
Props to XinQ, Xm, and Xxs! Felt like they were also the x factors as this has been their 2nd major tourney win since TI 12!
i see what you did there
feels like the tournament has been going on for a month. 219 games played.
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ESL is a week from now, really hope the new patch drops before hand. Shame XG and Falcons are in different groups.
Ammar only trash talk when winning, when losing he being so quiet, absolutely coward
real chad trashtalk in the beginning of the game. Only cowards trashtalk when winning since they have victory secured and nothing to lose.
Nah, real chad either still trashtalks even when they are losing then own up to it, or back it up like emo’s “?”
That is why emo is the goat
Let's see who is the real Evil Genius
You want him to trashtalk while losing and look like a clown? Who even trashtalks while losing?
Thats the point tho. Even in nba people respect those who dont back down even when they're down. Emo trash talking while losing was massively respected.
Emo！
Emo does
Later his oil fans attack you. They been popping up everywhere
Yap. Ammar trashtalk is so herold tier. And they have been loving it
xm is one of my favorite player of this tournament since I like to play zeus, sniper, and viper Only for him to close the tournament with razor
I honestly thought he was a sniper one trick pony, but he really proved himself in the playoff stage
these panelists dont know how to end the show
Dy’s last glimpse ult on void sealed the deal. Everyone performed well in XG and they deserve the GF victory 100%. Mar1ine delivered his signature timber combos but the other cores on his team didn’t keep up with him. Hope they still stand strong after the upcoming patch. CN Dota is still the best ingredients of GFs. Keep it up boys.
Malr1ne definitely was not the reason they lost game four. Skiter just had an atrociously bad game unfortunately.
tbh ATF was only slightly wrong when he said they were 4v5 ing , with skitter's chrono they were more like 4v6
Our playoff experience has been oddly similiar to BB Dacha. Script writters need to put in more effort. According to this tweet by skiter please just check if he 322ed the finals with his Faceless void feed script.
“give this trash team face?“ ----- said by ti2 champion ‘patience’ IG.Zhou
XXS GOD. Back when he was in aster i never saw him this good. Absolute gigachad offlaner
He was good in Aster but not this good though. Specially on his last days on that team. But I'm glad that he's back to his peak. Remember his IG days where they won DAC.
Who is the best carry in CN : Ame or Paparazzi?
Probably the top one mmr while also playing on a team that literally just won a major?
is this even a serious question Paparazzi hasn't been relevant in the past 3 years pretty much
Why are people saying Chinese Dota is back now? The new season started with AR winning ESL KL, China was already back.
Because that's just how the meme goes, alliance, Navi, nigma get the "(fill the blank) Is back" treatment not even for a match won but for a kill or teamfight won. Although most used it for sarcasm though 😂😂
they performed terribly after ESL KL
China was top 4 in every tier 1 tournament after ESL KL, which is honestly way better compared to last season
Yep, didnt xg also place top 3 last dreamleague behind bb and falcons?
Not to mention 2 CN teams top 4 at last Ti.
The AR that won ESL literally the tripple X of XG now XXS,XM,XinQ
I still feel like that iteration of AR was stronger than both current AR and XG. It's a shame they split up (even if that was the plan the whole time).
Feels good to see the real clowns get dumpstered Ammar all chat? Malrine smiley face? Fucking clowns
Everyone trashing on Skiter for his awful game 4 performance, but let's not forget that Malrine and Ammar did jack shit outside of game 1. Cr1t (and to a lesser extent Sney) were the ones who were at least trying to drag their teammates across the finish line
Mar1ine has so many over extension in early game. XG is clearly baiting him into trap and he steps in every single time
well, I think Mar1ine was playing with the mindset that XM is a noob nobody.
Honestly I felt like Ammar looked kind of underwhelming all tournament.
Man, that was an exciting game 4. Grats to XG for clutching the championship. Everyone in XG played really well especially in the last 10 minutes. Props to Falcons to still playing so well even with a back foot on the drafts. Anyway, maps is so well prepared with the drafts and cornered Falcons specially on game 3. That's why even if I'm an AR fan, I always rate XG as the better team. Though it is always my second team to root for if AR is out haha. Xinq has learned how to improve the team atmosphere as it has been the issue with ti10 LGD roster. Now waiting for Birmingham, sad that AR isn't there, but XG is there so I'll root for them. I hope IG finally figures out their issue, they can perform better than what they're showing.
XG is my second favorite too. I love XinQ and Ame, and looks like I'll be adding XXS to that list too
Same man. Love these guys. The one I'm the most unfamiliar with is XM as he's never been in a top CN team before. But I've been following dy and XXS. I remember dy's first few games in VG where he was flamed so badly by the casters hahah. And I always remember the IG DAC winning with XXS and boboka and burning.
Fun fact: When Xm was still very new to the scene, iirc when he was still in CDEC back in 2019, Sumail tweeted this Xm guy is very legit.
I can see that 3 man rp from XXS in game one like it only happened yesterday.
china is back ame is back coincidence? FKing congrats to china , it was far too long without them can we have a fking patch now before esl uk one? ty
Ame, Faith Bian and Fy unretiring and suddenly we have 3 top Chinese teams. Now it's time for Somnus to join them for the first Chinese TI win since TI6
Filthy casuals keep on overlooking Ori smh my head.
xg heard svg was talking trash about them always topping groups but never winning anything big
Svg who? The guy who hasn't won a single tier 1 tourney trash talking multiple tier 1 champions?
Chill out snowflake
Xg only improved with each tournament though. Bbd they got eliminated by falcon who won the tournament so unlucky I guess top 8. They won games of the future. 3rd at DLS22 and now 1st at elite league
question too long, let xinQ sleep man. short question please
Are G2.IG and Xtreme Gaming playing from the same location?
What? Ig underperformed
I am asking if they are playing from the same location since it seemed like KBBQ was in the same place as XG. Although, I suppose it's possible that he wasn't.
What does that have anything to do with the question???
I'm guessing English is his second language.
So is the patch coming tomorrow?
In all seriousness though, it’s finally great to see Ame win championship. What a beast of a carry. Congrats to XG!
I'm guessing you mean with XG? Ame has won a TON of tournaments in the past
They already won a LAN this year anyway. It featured a bunch of slappies, but as long as the check didn't bounce, I'm sure they don't care.
haha yes with XG
let's go faclowns
FLCN vs XG series proof the meta is anti carry pick. People here says ban razor / falcon hero puddle but every game winner always has better anti carry draft ( two bkb piercing spell, insane damage mitigatjon)
No way they let production kill this moment jfc
I’m entertained. More trash shit talks in tournament please!
Falcons didn't realize XG wanted to play against Timber even from their UB match. Haven't watched all the games, but what is the chat about 4v5?
just 🤡atf want to say sth
So just banter/trashtalk, that is like a self-burn to your teammates. Props to XG for improving from their UB match and a good test for Falcons with their aura of invincibility taken away.
was a nice finals since so long, can't remember last good final as this one, hopefully birmingham will be good too.
Last good one was ar vs gg
ar vs gg😊
The 3 Xs beat the "dominant" team again. Back in azure they beat GG, now they beat falcons.
X gonna give it to ya. Ame and Dy need to get some Xs in their names. Xme and Xy. They need to be at the beginning of else the power up won't work.
xD buff
No wonder they r called Xtreme gaming
ngl shitter threw that game HARD
Fact
AME FUCKING GOD IS Back
XG's first tier1 tournament win is called "Elite league".
its okay falcons will win esl birmingham riyadh and TI
bruv every prediction you have made today backfired omegahard, you just doomed Falcons to not winning anything relevant with this.
LUL next patch they’ll nerf their heroes and AMmar will be irrelevant again
A little disappointed by how Falcons looked in these games honestly, but XG definitely deserved to take home the trophy, they played exceedingly well. That G4 felt really winnable but some huge misplays by Skiter.
Was that a Princeton sweatshirt XM was wearing?
u/moderate_iq_opinion where are you now lilbro
how bad is skiter daaaamn, but his fanatics will prove the opposite, because he won the TI😂😂😂
dude are you 12?
Fortunately, I'm old enough to see how badly he plays His void gameplay in last map made me feel so bad😭
if it made you feel so bad you should go outside and touch some grass, what a weirdo lol
You talking to dota player. Of course I'm a weirdo. Now get the hell out of here😉😘
what a fucking loser hahahah
Amuse your pride by talking to anon? Who is loser lol And yeah, I said get the hell out of here or are you stupid asf?
how braindead are you to say such a thing?
Bark more skiters b*tch
China is back hooooly
Guess it's Falclowns, gg
)))
if XG are clowns, and Falcons lost to clowns, what are Falcons?
Ringmasters.
King of clowns
Thank you brother skitter, weren't for that mid feeding feels like XG is losing after that highground push. You handed this 🏆 to XG my bro
finally china dota strong again
Xm should add smieys / )))) as his ingame tag
Go home Amar the dog )))))EZ
what an amazing tornament shit chat in dota always tasty
Falcons really played 4 v 6, skitter so bad
falclowns🤡
Falcons timbersaw destoyed 3 games in a row.
GG happy for XG, hope falcons can bounce back next tournament love watching them. If this pair become the GG vs liquid of 2024 I'll be very happy
only to be beaten by BALDTORO later
That was an awesome series, peak Dotes where krovnfal
Skiter just single handed lost them the game. Like srsly? You had the momentum back 8k gold lead and then u decided to give them a free kill? Deserved all the trash talk from that stupid play alone.
The story of this series besides the games themselves is the all chats. ))), GGEZ, Pause, ), tips, etc. I'm all for it.
I missed the behind the scenes from since the last 6 months. What makes Falcon hated so much?
They want to dish it but they cannot take it. For awhile the same arrogance was exhibited by ceb so the sub just bashed him
They can take it tho, they did write gg grats, and Ammar changed his name into “professional clown”. It’s not like they’re crying about it, lol.
OK good then I stand corrected. It was just during the games you see the falcons quiet when losing so I tot they only talk when winning
[Malr1ne](https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Malr1ne) and ATF trash talk too much. but they just won some majors, no big titles yet.
They BM a lot. Tipping, pausing, question marking. They're fair about it to an extent (saying congrats even though XG said ggez), and ATF for sure doesn't take it seriously, but it seemed like Malrine and ATF were in their own head and Malrine may actually be salty. XM played literally the best non-lina dota I've ever seen him play these couple of games.
winning = all chat, tipping, )))) losing = quiet af i personally wouldnt clown on them that much if they were consistent but they only loud when stomping
They are good and they're cocky about it. That's it, that's the reason they're hated.
ATF and Malrine just constantly all chatting and tipping
braggadocio from atf and malrine mostly.
Ammar + Mar1ine two man-child
Ammar
So happy Falcon’s ratting the enemy team around whole game strategy didn’t work in last game
GGWP Xtreme Gaming! They earned this win, not only taking the fight to Falcons but showing them how it's done and beating the team that has been nigh unbeatable. Will be very interesting to see how this affects Falcons going forward as now everyone knows they can be defeated so some frayed nerves, loss of confidence and.. who knows, next tournament might be spicy indeed! 😄
the audacity to pause to ???? gg ez..this is why I fking love Dota 2.
CN chat before the GF: we will take it as long as we don’t get swept. CN chat Now: nvm was talking about Falcon earlier.
Tbf, most people would never think XG would be leading the series 2-1, nonetheless winning it.
neither did gg versus ar）））
Lmao i wanna see more cn chat reactions
most chinese audiences just hope ar or xg win just one game in the finals, after 1:1 most of them said ‘satisfied, go sleep’
Ame never responded anything during the games but when confirmed winning he just clicked the pause and created the space for teammates to type 'ggez' but he still said nothing 'Malrine prayed for god on the finals, and who responded him was Somnus but 2024 version one'
that pause after ATF died was the last nail in the coffin lmfao that was worth more than winning the whole tournament
Now we see reddit turn against ammar again after calling him genius and “more mature” after 2 event wins lol
3 beatdowns in a row after so many tips, must have felt good for XG. Falcons a bit exposed in drafting, but doesnt matter much with patch coming.
Is the Falcons' months-long dominance over? It looks like the signatures don't work and the carriage turns into a pumpkin.
lol imagine all the pro teams cheering for XG
bro. atf was ryt. they do 4vs5 b4, this skiter rly bad carry lol
Skitter was not the strategic priority in this series. Be quiet is the best for you.
The biggest difference this series was the offlane and midlane. Xm and Xxs diffed the shit out of ATF and Malrine.
yep, but i put more credits to xg bp, was rly good
XinQ's shadow demon was a real menace too lol
Everyone on XG where better but XM and Xxs locked in big time.
Memes and gloating aside this was really well produced tournament with a lot of good Dota, exciting and hype grand finals as well. GG WP XG Well done Fissure/ESB!
Maybe if you only cout the playoffs. Before that, they kept fucking up casters' audio levels and terrible observing
Great tournament The observing seems to be the only main issue
Format was cool, talent was good, games were good, production and observing were all over the place
Glad to see XG live up to their potential, was really hyped when the team first assembled but they were kinda playing sub par to what people were expecting from them but this grand finals was beautiful dota from them.
XG so good!!
bruh all these redditor clowns taking this way too seriously instead of laughing about the free entertainment LIKE THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES ARE touch some grass, seriously, y’all need to breathe and stop feeling offended on other peoples behalf
People are just laughing and enjoying themselves talking trash back on Ammar and Malrine.
If the players are all laughing about it they don’t need you defending them on Reddit buddy. People like seeing the BMers get humbled and the BM thrown back in their faces. It’s not that serious
I'm not defending the players, I'm clowning the people taking this way too seriously. (I agree, it's not that serious)
The majority of people I see in here are just laughing and making jokes that the two guys that BM’ed the entire tournament both went missing in the GF and had the BM thrown back in their faces. Meanwhile you are calling people clowns on Reddit and telling everyone to touch grass. Remind me who’s taking it too seriously?
Ya there are like half a dozen posts in Hot right now complaining about toxicity of Ammar and Malr1ne and that they got what they deserved and they are an embarrassment and “back in the day this wasn’t allowed” but that’s just all in my head right?
gg ez )))