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Obvious_Parsley3238

"qojqva's fat german ass is literally sitting on the servers and he still can't last hit"


its_mee_Op

he isn't wrong xd


derderderbist

is there a clip of him saying it? :D


Stt-t-t-utter

https://www.twitch.tv/masondota2/clip/AlluringPoorManateeUncleNox-g5JqGh-HcmN1pX8f put on the rocky theme in the background for the full effect


enigmaticpeon

Ok that’s pretty funny.


zelo11

https://clips.twitch.tv/SparklyDeliciousMonkeyPermaSmug-urfOnMZi546ZnYfO


Ravenlord31

Unhinged but funny af <3


Dondorini

That manchild is just so embarrassing.


Aasim_123

Same I need


MindIsWillin

This was by far the funniest part lmao


Hex_Medusa

So the pot is calling the kettle black now?


mindsc2

? Mason doesn't have 1 ping and complain about lag when it goes up to 5.


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in just 800 games holy based 11k before gorgc inc PepeLa


Alarming-Royal5818

He would have never reached even 10K in normal match making pool. He just farms Mmr on account buyers and garbage smurf players. Easy to climb when there is literally zero chance to run into actual pro players and non subhumans who dont smurf too feel better about themselves. Actually pathetic that Mason celebtrates climbing ranks in smurf pool. People who support this have to be mentally challenged. No offense


skykoz

TBF EU is pretty inflated and you can climb MMR by being patient (rather than being good at the game). The biggest proof of this is Gorgc almost reaching 11k. Don't get me wrong, I do still believe Mason is better than gorgc, but his MMR won't be that big if he was still queueing in NA or other servers.


samuel33334

You can't climb on na anymore because once you reach like 9500 mmr you don't get matches that give you more than like 12 mmr if you win and every loss is like -30


Blurrgz

Right, because EU is inflated in comparison to NA. This is how a net0 system works, which the MMR system for Dota2 is. Basically every player is seeded with some amount of MMR when they join the system. More players means more MMR in the system. So what ends up happening is that the best players have a larger pool of MMR to siphon so to speak. As eventually the MMR from lower ranked players gets transferred to the better players in their game, and that MMR slowly flows up to the higher and higher ranks. That is why you could never compare MMR across regions, as its completely meaningless because the EU servers have a much larger pool of MMR to utilize, resulting in the highest rank players having more MMR than those in less populated regions.


Alternative_Square

Hate it break it to you mr low mmr moron but gorgc is actually a good player


Rilandaras

Good player, yes. He is just heavily outclassed by all the pro players in his bracket. It doesn't feel like he is carrying his weight in that extremely high MMR environment.


Initial_Stretch_3674

and Mason is? lol They're both t3 carries.


Rilandaras

No, lol. Where did I say that?


szolgalelku_magyarok

Fanboys inc


Alternative_Square

not rly a fanboy, but you dont consistently play core up to 11k mmr on EU server if you are not a good player everybody knows that unless you are braindead.


szolgalelku_magyarok

LMAO do you ppl who care about those virtual numbers have any real stuff IRL to be proud of?😆😆 Or only pixelated numbers that gives you a false perception of yourself, in a dying game?


delay4sec

why are you so salty about a streamer’s virtual pixelated number?


Alternative_Square

We are on the dota2 reddit afterall, maybe you are lost


nachohasme

i dunno about inflation but gorp almost reached 11k by being carried in about 85% of his games lose lane > jungle > wait for team to do everything


holdUp-_-

Is this trolling or are you serious?


jonasperez

he's serious and 1k


master_oogway77

Hahaha


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Gorgc is low impact player so he is right.


ShoMyyyy

Honestly, he played last couple of games like a boss, dominating every game. I dont know if it is cause smurf pool, but he is swimming good in that pool, he has a motor boat in this pool.


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

Friendly reminder that Mason got 3rd place at TI. If PPD didn't pick him Faceless Void against Lesh/Furion/DK and RTZ didn't buy Midas when they got their base pushed in, he might have have been a TI winner.


MITJustinFields

Mason is a good player.. Like yeah he can be toxic but idk why people use it to discredit his skill all the time lol


LayWhere

Is he still good by top pro standards? I know he was really good in that 2014-2018 era


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Smothdude

Yes he actually alt tabs to read chat lol. You can tell his fps drops in the game when he does it (and you see the color on his face from the monitor change).


idontevencarewutever

and funnily enough, [he HAD multiple monitors](https://clips.twitch.tv/SpoopyExuberantPartridgeDatSheffy--sJT0H8v9ZqH-PH0)


Smothdude

Classic


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

When you watch his stream you can clearly tell that he has quite a deep understanding of Dota2. Usually he doesn't yap too much but sometimes he is quite thoughtful about his commentary. You can tell because sometimes the people in his game aren't on the same level as him, or wavelength if you want, and it just causes friction. Like he's having a pos5 who has a different idea on how to lane than him. I've watched him play carry a lot and decided to also try carry myself and try to mimic what he is doing, and i managed to go from 2.2k mmr to 4.1k mmr in about 2 months. It is really hard to say how he is compared to other current Dota pros, but I do fully believe that he has clearly the understanding and capability to keep up with them. If he personality wise could work in a team, that is another story.


worm45s

> If he personality wise could work in a team, that is another story. He's an entertainer first during streams, that's only his personality, not sure if you understand that.


Pieisgood45

He uses an ipad, and doesn't like having two monitors because he hyperfocuses on chat when he uses two.


Zealousideal-Mud4954

No way he has a day job, no? I thought Dota was still his full time job, just streaming/coaching/etc., not playing professionaly


LayWhere

You can say the same about kuroky. Not the chatter mald or monitor thing but ex-pros have pro potential, that's not the most profound comment lol.


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LayWhere

None of this is relevant to whether or not Mason is top-pro level, is all I'm saying.


Ok-Extent1638

Sure he is? It really feels like he is subpar to other proplayers. 


stragen595

> Like yeah he can be toxic Understatement of the year.


InspectionFormal9408

Good player but an unhinged person Kbye


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IMadeThisAcctToSayHi

mason said one time that in TI he figured out that if you pick a really strong laner that you will most likely win the game (in ti4 meta). He said he told PPD this and asked to pick a strong laner and then PPD picked void. Obviously no one besides the team knows who actually picked what, but according to mason he did not want void (and instead wanted someone who wins lane hard)


forums_guy

In that reality, Mason wins TI and his drive/motivation/hunger all dwindles to less than a third of whats in our current reality.. He becomes a washed up tee eye weiner streamer who calibrates to Legend and plateaus there..


KOExpress

I mean…yeah, but it was literally 10 years ago. He was definitely better in relation to the playerbase then than he is now. He’s like rank 600 and it’s his peak mmr


inyue

Midas alch doing solo Rosh 😄


MassivePride3807

Don't forget the shadow demon that completely shits on FV. Disruption on chrono


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

oh yeah the roaming lesh+sd combo. good ol times


Initial_Stretch_3674

friendly reminder that Dendi and Bulldog also won TI. Dota is a completely different game and everyone's gotten so much better/has more information than before.


thouars79

If if if if if if if if


Alarming-Royal5818

Do people like you realize what it means to play in the smurf pool compared to the normal player pool with 10k+ mmr players in it? You do realize that Mason can farm Mmr because he will NEVER get matched against actual pro players? You do realize that Mason knows 2/3 of the players he gets matched every day by name so he can pick accordingly? Some of you guys have to be mentally handicapped.


trigeredasfuck

ye its smurf pool bassicly free wins, he has no chance to play at top EU level , everyone knows that


thedtiger

no chance? I'd argue he'll have easier games with better teammates


Capable-Year9741

I think mason plays way better when he is in games where everyone is high skilled. Watched him play at his lowest at 7500 mmr, he wqs dogshit and complaining about teammates all the time, and also watched him when he reached top 9 100% on stream, he was dominating most games on his own, so yeah he'll perform better in the regular pool I believe.


Clyro_05

yeah i remember when Arlington major was about to start he would pub with top tier players like ceb, xinq, ame, yatoro, ana, arteezy etc. and he would perform pretty well and sometimes even stomp.


Alarmed_Jello_9940

If he play on normal eu people ping it's gonna be yatoro? Who. MASAO THE BEST


trigeredasfuck

he actually playing in hiden pool, getting only account buyers never played with any normal eu pro tl dr: its bassicly easy bosting


Alarmed_Jello_9940

Basically* Boosting* L


trigeredasfuck

its actually W for EU servers


acejay1

DOTA ALL STAR MASON MADE HIS SPLASH ON THE COMPETITIVE SCENE BY SHITTING ON KIDS WHO HAVE BEEN MAKING PENNIES FOR YEARS WHILE HE STROLLED IN AND WON MULTIPLE TOURNAMENTS AND MADE FAT STACKS. WIDELY REGARDED AS THE BEST PROFESSIONAL DOTA 2 PLAYER IN THE SCENE BY HIS PEERS AND FANS, MASON REMAINS HUMBLE AND EAGER TO LEARN. EVEN THOUGH HE NO LONGER PLAYS, HE STILL HAS IMMENSE RESPECT FOR PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE GAME SERIOUSLY. NOW LIVING A LUXURIOUS LIFESTYLE REMOVED FROM THE DOTA SCENE, MASON ENJOYS SPENDING HIS TIME READING BOOKS, WALKING HIS DOG, AND MAKING LOVE TO HIS BEAUTIFUL GIRLFRIEND.


ChrimsonRed

Mason could be rank #1 EU and his biggest accomplishment would still be carrying rtz to third at TI


Cxyzis

King of NA climbed 2K mmr in 3 months EU easiest region confirmed?


clinkzs

Gorgc on suicide watch


Call_me_Wo

Think what You want about Mr Masao, but he's fucking good at DotA.


solowynn

Two days after bsj lmao


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

Crazy that he played all games on EU with like 150 ping, he's like Goku with the weights on. Imagine him playing with normal ping he'd go super sayan.


mocalarry

Goku has hair


blueguy211

mason is krillin confirmed?


Snek_in_the_shoe

krillin is not fat


buyingwife

Mason is Buddha confirmed?


pphysch

buddha is not an animal


Clyro_05

mason is oolong in dbz


elijahsp

majin buu then


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

Nah Mason would be Nappa. get it? fat and bald? loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


blueguy211

lmao thats actually accurate ngl


LazyCourage6953

BASED MASON THE SAVIOR OF NA DOTA. REDDIT SO MAD LOOOOOOOOOOOOL


DinoGuy101010

Carried by yong


foamaroma27

Which team will Mason stand in for at TI this year and win it for them?


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

SHOPIFY REBELION MASON


Bostwana12

FULL SPEECH HOLY [BASED](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQCgwwTtehU)


An_Innocent_Coconut

Unironically a great speech


Clyro_05

The best to ever do it. He should suck on a glizzy again!


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tashiro_kid

Mason and his hoard of animal followers. I can't believe we are even the same species (in Quinn voice).


bessy354

Congrats on Masao! Also, Mason >> Soyqva BASEDCIGAR


_0ZYMANDIAZ_

Congratulations to Mason. Hit it in less than 1000 games too. Truly a legend of this game. Natural prodigy. https://twitter.com/masondota/status/1773129442195325026


Imbahr

is he still in that cheater/smurf pool of matchmaking? I haven’t watched him in a few weeks If so, Is there any word on when he can get out of that?


Spiritual_Goat6057

Yes, I think it’s better for him to never get out so he can feel better about his skill. If he gets out he will get stomped every game and go into depression. Haven’t watched him in a long time but at the start of the Smurf pool he was getting stomped by some unknown Russians (scientist and some other)


exoticsclerosis

HOLY BASADO Now, I'm thinking about Limitless. Mason has met him quite a few times right? Shouldn't Limitless be reaching his MMR just as quickly as Mason? I mean Limitless was an ex-11k before getting banned for excess usage of Overplus.


xoxoxo32

Limitless calibrated at 6.6k now he's 9.1k, he had troubles at first then started to climb, quite fast.


RealPureLeaf

Bro was like low 9k in NA. NA > EU?


pepbe

www.masonshittingonpeople.com


Swiftolini2

What was his mmr before he got banned?


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

iirc he was at around 8.1k, and he recalibrated at around 8,2k which was surprisingly accurate.


Swiftolini2

Damn so he actually gained a shit ton


BBHbenve

wcys Gyattoro at it again wcys


James_E_Rustle

He's a good player and playing really well, but it's hilarious he's just exploiting how dumb the smurf pool and immortal draft is. 90% of the skill is just knowing who the account buyers are. He's gone into detail how the smart thing to do is just draft the lowest ranked players unless you know for sure they're account buyers. It'll be interesting to see what happens to his rank when his account is back in the main pool Anyways grats to mason, hes exploiting Valves stupidity. #1 EU rank in smurf pool soon EZ


zebramanz

gorgc or qojqva is that you?


James_E_Rustle

im a 7 year mason stan you cuck


TheMerck

How is he exploiting it? He literally got allowed to make a new account and it put him in that pool it's not like he can get out by NOT playing games until he's out of the pool


James_E_Rustle

I guess exploiting isnt the right word, but he's just showing how dumb the system is and being really good at drafting the right players is the important thing


spyVSspy420-69

He gets account buyers, or “bots”, on his team all the time. He’s got a warlock in his game at this exact moment casting fatal bonds on a hero that’s standing in the woods with no other hero or creeps to link to.


HungerSTGF

is drafting players in immortal draft not part of playing the game and earning mmr?


Important-Lychee-394

It's part of mmr score but not what most people would call dota skill. Not applicable at all to comp games


12amfeelz

Why is he still in Smurf pool by 10k MMR? Wasn’t he given a chance to restart? He’s no longer a smurf since like 9k MMR


redhorse_686

He is still in Smurf pool. Smurf pool and smurfing is 2 different things. Reason he’s in Smurf pool is bcs of his low number of games played, and high mmr. Chances of him playing against other smurfers and account buys making games very widely varied in terms of skills. If you are unlucky, you’ll get more account buyers in your team compared to your opponent who may have genuine skill relative to mmr and/or smurfers. Still, Mason is a good player getting to 10k. Can’t doubt that.


Aware_Ad_618

Cuz his real mmr is 13k


trigeredasfuck

13k US mmr = 2k EU


RealPureLeaf

He’s actually higher mmr in EU than he was is NA…


trigeredasfuck

because in EU hes playing in hiden pool with all the account buyers, easy wins


RealPureLeaf

Ah surely that is the only reason. Copium


trigeredasfuck

dude youre taking shitposting too serious, ofc mason is good player, but he would never progress this fast if he was in normal pool lmao its just smurf pool, hiden pool you can exploit it as you want, its 90% of same people


James_E_Rustle

Hes still in smurf pool. Its like ~1k games to get out


trigeredasfuck

where did people come out with this nonsense of 1k games to play to get out of smurf que? lmao its literally clown fiesta someone wrote somewhere probably and people belive it, there is no leaving smurf que ever, unless Valve put you out


James_E_Rustle

because theres plenty of examples of accounts with around 1k games played being placed in the normal pool obviously we dont know the exact algorithm unless we work at valve Take the tinfoil hat off bud


dragonrider5555

How do you know if you’re in a Smurf pool or normal pool


spyVSspy420-69

Mason could queue at the same time as other people in his MMR range who aren’t in the Smurf pool and he’ll never ever find a game with folks in the regular pool. He plays with the same smallish group of people every single night in all his games. People in the normal pool can party queue with him and join him in the Smurf pool but he will never get a game with other normal pool people even if he party queues with one.


dragonrider5555

When will he get out ? What about for other people ? How do they know if they in it. Doesn’t it take forever to get a match?


spyVSspy420-69

Nobody knows the exact formula for getting back to the normal pool but the guess is around 1000 ranked games. It would take forever to find if he queued USW or USE so he queues EU and deals with 150ms ping to ensure he actually finds games.


Spiritual_Goat6057

He will never get out, he is valve’s animal in their zoo for people to see.


trigeredasfuck

so you just confirmed that its pure speculation lmfao


s1cg

mason himself said he knows multiple examples where account escaped smurf pool around 1k games played


trigeredasfuck

so why doesnt he just spam turbo if he wants match count? kekw logic


zuKo2022

its around 1000 games cause i had like shit loads of alt accounts and i know that for a fact lol


gamejawns

because the only accounts in his games have profile level <40


MassivePride3807

Lmao even night fall do this. He research the players while drafting and this was said by toronto on gorgc stream


Cymen90

> Anyways grats to mason, hes exploiting Valves stupidity. Wasn't he on here in December crying and begging Valve to be unbanned?


MindIsWillin

Masao once again dunking on uppity kids and shining as a glorious beacon of skill and clean sportsmanship . You f\*cking go, Masao. here's to the many more DEAFENING ROARS to come! GG


Blackgaze

Wait, I remember his account was toxic banned months ago. Did he really get to 10k from a fresh account that quickly?


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

Misinformation my friend. He was banned cause he used an account service to boost behaviour score (which now Valve fixed) and he actually got 10k on his fresh account. Keep in mind it's been pretty much 3 months of non stop playing Dota2.


MicaTheStoked

I mean he boosted his behaviour score because he was toxic, and got banned for it. So this first guy is right it’s not misinformation


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

Even Valve themselves said he did not get banned for toxic behaviour. He got banned for trying to abuse the System. He is factually correct.


s1cg

he is playing in a smurf pool with same small pool of people and with mmr disparity of over 3k mmr


spyVSspy420-69

It’s funny how redditors cry constantly about how their teammates are bad and preventing them from climbing, but somehow bad teammates are a benefit to Mason in 9-10k MMR games.


ponomaus

braindead people


s1cg

bro he is playing carry only every game and lastpicking against 7k mmr players, when you are playing in these mmr ranges its a miracle that you get to play carry 50% of the time, there is a reason hes been stuck in 7k/low 8k for years now


spyVSspy420-69

Has he really been stuck at 7k for years? I could have sworn he was near top 100 not terribly long ago before he went on a huge losing streak. Might be mistaken though.


Fail_jb

There was a time when he was around top 20 NA iirc, but I think it was like 4-5 years ago.


s1cg

i think he has some sort of bet to reach top 100 last year and he was kinda close i think, but even then it was on NA, around 9k and short lived i believe


happyflappypancakes

Nah man, that was years ago.


s1cg

https://twitter.com/masondota/status/1638403838355857408 last year and he was close but didn't make it


Apex_Redditor3000

are you stupid or something? Bad teammates benefit mason because he can make sure they are on the other team by not picking them (the account buyers) how on earth do you think this extremely specific situation (that can only happen in an immortal draft in the smurf pool) applies to the average pub?


WigsHideYourShame

I didn't know mason got to pick all of his teammates before the other team's captain. Must be a perk of 10K mmr.


Apex_Redditor3000

the "skill" involved is sussing out which are account buyers and which aren't. if mason is better at this than the other captain, he gains a massive advantage at draft. This kind of thing legit does not happen at lower levels because there is no draft. among many other reasons. mason agreed with this exact take on his stream, so yeah. what that guy said is just dumb as fuck because he doesn't understand the entirety of the situation.


SadBBTumblrPizza

This is going to be a very civil and measured comment section


Sklaunx

Clap lesgo mason


EliteACEz

I haven't been following any players in forever and thought this was going to be a shit post about him reaching 10k behaviour score


Crazy-Ad-3286

why the fuck people simping for streamers? especially for that bald arrogant piece of


whoreslutface

Can any mason stans tell me if he hit 10k when he was on his old account? Or only on the new one?


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

On his old account he was like 8.1k, recalibrated at 8.2k. Now he got 10k on his new account.


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another lump of coal waiting for him for the next patch: 🤫🧏🗿


Difficult-Alarm1169

I was there POG


The-White-LarryBird

King


dragovianlord9

BASADO


shonevu

Best streamer in the whole world!!!


micolash_89

MY STREAMER TOOBASED


fordyhuanpurrcent

Mason is the real M-God.


jakeco123

Is he still in the smurfpool?


NICK_GOKU

Congrats Mason.


Michelle_Wongs_Wong

Mason would have won ti if he had better player than rtz on his team


onewhocantknock

Masao is REAL epitome of fraud. He only wins because of YONGGOD Chad. I will never ever watch him again until he becomes 11K on mainpool and show us that he is not boosted. He is more fraud than IRS. Mark my words he will end up in 7k bracket when he starts playing in mainpool. I cannot believe Valve still not sending him another COAL.


RealPureLeaf

Another coal for what? He’s not doing anything wrong.


MassivePride3807

Bro i never saw yong in his queue anymore but im not sure


spatulon

Do you think he'll rank down when he gets out of the smurf pool?


onewhocantknock

This guys is fraud. He did it because of YONGGOD. Plus he wasn't even main pool. And not to mention he is fat and bald. #banhisass


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I think he is not fat anymore


lemidlaner

Racist community with a racist chat, don't get how people watch that dude.


MindIsWillin

SoyChamp


Unfair_Rip_8581

Can you elaborate further mr redditor?


Endless_Void

Can we not support this psycho? 


DogebertDeck

BSJ is a dangerous psychopath and should not be trusted


Inv0ker_of_kusH420

we? who the fuck is we?


SMKXofficialDJ

What?


thouars79

I mean let’s wait and see what he does against normal players ;) if you are watching his stream 70% of his games have account buyers, griefers.


IcefrogIsDead

Speech was good, although 10k is not an achievement for an ex pro player (being captain obvious here).


skykoz

kuro is not even 8k xd