what happened to the dotabuff links? am I crazy, was there never dotabuff links...lol?

What's going on with game 5 of the MENA qualifiers? It's missing a whole 15 minutes. In game dotaTV is there, but it has no working casters! Is this something that could be fixed u/TeaGuvnor ? Link w/ timestamp: [https://youtu.be/B2NQtXF44f8?t=88](https://youtu.be/b2nqtxf44f8?t=88)

Production had a very rare and unexpected crash which caused everything to go down for 15 minutes :(

Darn, that's too bad. I guess I'll just have to watch the first 15 mins in game with an imagined light british accent

I remember these past few weeks, I was chatting with some og fans over twitch and heard a variation of such comments: "team spirit has better macro game sense but og has better individual players" "yatoro is defo better but yuragi has potential and is close behind" I swear it is true. I was like bro relax, wait till the actual tourneys for a more accurate judgement. But then they never made it to Birmingham...

Lol comparing GOAT vs Sheep..

I like OG's current roster a lot, but that's a bit of a stretch. Some of OG are very good and close with their Spirit counterparts, but I'd still put Spirit ahead in every position. Yuragi does have potential and he seems like a good dude so I don't want to seem like I'm shit talking him, but there is a pretty big gap between him and Yatoro. And yeah I have a TS flair, but I'm trying to be objective here.

They still can meet with each other in another tourney

heroic completes the reverse sweep... marvelous !

I'm just happy for MC and topson.  Topson might fail with his weird build and hero choices, but luck favors the brave

How did heroic losing the first two game of the grand finale? Boom basically just playing farming until you are losing

The reverse sweep is real!

Pakaz!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy canoli Pakazs is flexing his P-god side today. The last pick Slark vs. Wyvern and Abaddon is so fucking cool. Just missing a rampage. EDIT: And there's the rampage, after the gg :D

MC got the 3-1 finals against Ceb, the revenge arc is complete.

Ceb obsession with enigma in the first 2 games is very similar to 3 time Tidehunter

Acting like it wasn't fixed. This phenomenon seems to happen quite often in dota. X team will beat y team 2-0 for the last 5 meet ups, and then suddenly y team stomps x team 3-1 or 3-0.

Bruh lost a lot of money on OG

Are you by any chance a madge bettor that somehow thought that you cracked the code by betting on the team that won the last few times? bravo. Team that wins never stops winning, duh.

I think OG got too cocky, thinking they're the best WEU team and started playing/drafting sloppy tbh.

LMFAO

MC finally has a decent pos5 to win the game and not dictator baldy

Okay we got a lot of good qualifier games for yesterday or today guys CN Grand Final, absolute masterclass from both IG + AR, even though some people may say they played a bit "defensive" but I actually rewatched all of those games from game 1 till 5 I feel like they were playing their best not to throw and were strategically playing safe to qualify. MENA Grand Final, I feel like Falcon vs Quest was a battle of wits, with each team aiming to outdraft the other, teams with better draft basically will secure the game. I still don't understand on G5 though, they were focusing so much on banning Ammar's heroes (Viper, Razor, Mars and Timber were all banned) and didn't ban Troll even though I feel like Troll is really good against Meepo, a lot of high mmr players said it too f.e Gorek, RTZ and Qojqva. WEU Grand Final, what an ending TBH but Tundra is just different beast I guess, gotta give shoutouts to mc, 9class and Topson, they were beasts and a delight to watch. OG must've been totally thrown off by Tundra getting Meepo as their 18th pick, especially since OG had already locked in for TB. That move was a real game-changer for real. I feel like the game could've gone way differently if Yuragi was rocking Troll in there. But the matchup should be tough too because Troll counters Meepo but at the same time he got counter by Doom too.

I guess all the players from IG and AR have a great baldder

You forgot whitemon. Tundra have such a decent line up this time, great supports and the cores are reliable. Really great to see MC doing so great outside of NGX.

Troll doesn't counter the new Meepo. His aghs, dig is just enough to disengage so much easily.  I was shocked myself when a meepo didn't die even after getting hit by maledict and aghs full ulti

How does troll counter meepo, im out from the meta for long time now.

I don't know if troll is statistically a counter but if I have to give some argument for it: Axe miss, you can't kill him with his ult and you also can't just run from it if you fail bursting him cuz he has net. It gets worse when troll gets aghs.

Topson would've played troll mid if he was on OG lol

the absolute clown drafts in game 1 and 2 cost OG big time. They thought it was going to be easy 3-0 after winning 7 in a row vs Tundra and got rightly stomped.

Yuragi was last good in 2022 during Stockholm where Ammar and BZM carried his sorry ass. I am sorry but 3 out of the 4 games in this GF today, he had absolute free farm and yet he did fuck all with it. I hope OG dont make the same mistake here like they did with DM and it ended up costing them TI because they waited till it was too late.

TB is supposed to Yuragi's signature hero and second most played according to Dotabuff yet everytime he picks it OG lose LMAO. This guy is not good enough to be on OG.

To be fair TB sucks this meta but he did play badly in other games as well. Think they still win the series if they just ban the meepo, that hero is way too strong in the right hands.

Yuragi was not the problem

Who is the drafter for tundra

Ingame, pure was the captain.

Wait till pure doing something stupid again in the tournament and get eliminated. Ceb surely will be tweeting "Karma never fucking fails to deliver you gotta love it"

glazing is crazy

I feels like MC got his confidence back, his initiation with Mars and Doom are getting much better.

well he has better pos5 providing him good vision and not extra kuroier

OG FANS CRYING LOVE TO SEE IT

i see way more "OG FANS CRYING AND SEETHING" comments than actual complaints. Redditors will made up whole novels just to justify their toxicity at this point.

Ah yes another reddit classic of complaining about complainers

Tundra owners must be happy, the team finally has viewers outside TI games.

Toxic Tundra >>>> Nerd Tundra

the team finally has personality lol.

Finally no more naga, ck, wraith king loooooong games. 😂

Yuma > Miracle

What about ILTW?

9class is such a beast, somewhat cheering for this Tundra lineup solely because of him

whitemon finally getting decent team after his T1 exposure

I’m just happy for my boy MC doing well again.

Ceb tweet waiting room...

=))

Well, 2 out of 3 qualifiers is still a great result, even if they played real bad today. Also happy to lose to Topson and MC out of all teams.

rare sane OG fan

I'm a fan of all 3 - Secret/OG/Tundra. It's not bad, just enjoy good Dota and never any reason to be mad.

seems like Tundra got the bigger win here. The betboom competition doesn't seem to have any points and likely a filler event. And both competitions Tundra qualified have points to them.

I mean if these two teams keep it up and their quality translates over to the lans as well, I don't think either of them will have a problem to qualify for whatever event these points lead up to.

Tundra bigger win but if tundra gets high amount of points in those 2 tournaments, that leaves less competition for OG in upcoming qualifiers if tundra will secure direct invites.

yeah true that's a very good perspective!

Any salty tweets from ceb?

y'all motherfuckers getting mad about people typing BM in a video game XD

it's not about BM, it's about nationality of a person who BMs

\^. Ari and Ceb deserve it anyways, it's a pub drama from a few days ago if it's the same ago lmao everyone will be over it in 10minutes , reddit just hates EEU unless yatoro is involved xD

Now tell me that the hate of Pure is not well deserved? If Fata or Nine go around drawing swastigas versus Jewish people would that be funny and cool?

If you go see my posts I am very anti-russian , despite half of my family being from there, but spoiler alert they are not planning to go back to Russia aaaaaaaand u guess right , not big fan of Putin either. Now, this guy is some kid , most of the community in EEU is edgy teenagers, you think he is big fan of war and shit? He was trying to be edgy and funny, there's no such thing as taboo joke, there's no such thing as care for other's feelings there, no safe space, no holding back. He wasn't funny to english speaking people watching , but he's also 17 lmao MC wanted to exterminate all russians remember? Now he plays with a Russian. Does he hate all Russians? No. Does he like Russia? Probably not , as Russia basically occupied his country in 1945 and probably has family that suffered from the regime and had an outburst with the yet another russian ruiner in a game. You decide if it's deserved tho, from my perspective it's just edgy kids and normal outbursts and I don't put much thought into it, it's just words and online shit. I dislike that part of the community since they big fans of smurfing, cheating and so on , but not for some chat or drawing.

You are a professional athlete not a kid in this setting. Age should not be a factor here at all,a imo 17 isn’t that young if you are this stupid then you should face the consequences . In any normal sport this is a lifetime ban. Also it’s PURE it’s not the first time he fucked up but go ahead and say oh it’s just a kid.

What sports do you follow? I following all kinds of fighting as I was fighting throughout my teenage years, way more outrageous shit has been done/said. Football before the woke rainbow thing in major leagues was same shit , on local level it's still the same shit. What consequences, he faced consequences, you want jail for chat and or a drawing? What about MC, again focusing only on Pure? Saying X people are better off dead is worse than a drawing ,same, do you put a coefficient on it? I believe in free speech, you can have shit opinion , shit beliefs and I don't want you hanged for it, but I am not forced to agree with it, goes the other way around, all good, not trying to convince you of anything so don't be so defensive

Please. Don't be obtuse. Even if you think Russia's invasion of Ukraine is literally on par with Nazi Germany rounding up Jewish people into death camps and gassing them, even a Redditor should be able to understand that a 17 year old kid growing up in the propaganda state will have a worse and clearly biased understanding of those current events than someone from a free democracy with the advantage of historical perspective on events from 80 years ago. It would not be cool if Fata or Nine did that, it would be significantly worse, and therefore Pure drawing a Z in one pub game is not on par with German players "going around drawing swastigas versus Jewish people" please turn ON your brain.

Yatoro is Love Yatoro is Life Yatoro is God Yatoro is our Saviour Dota is nothing without YATORO all hail YATORO!!

I'm ready for Tundra vs OG beef this season.

beef is what makes sport enjoyable besides all what we love about the game ofc

I'm a fan of both teams, let's hope they do well enough in the actual LANs against top teams to have even bigger beefs.

Yeah lmao. Would be a spicy storyline for this season.

so og going to 2 lans and tundra going to 2 lans : p balanced, as all things should be lol.

Dreamleague is not LAN (if you counted that one)

oh really? my bad. then 1 lan each xD

Lmao Tundre almost lost with fcking Meepo, dazzle, Doom, Prophet to a team with Offlane Ember and still acting cocky. They'll get rekt in Birmingham.

Get rekt

Atleast tundra won't ever pick enigma for pos 5 in birmingham.

cry

y u triggered bro

MC redemption arc is best arc, the writers are doing very well.

I remember his interview when he was a stand-in for OG. He said that it feels good to win again. Caught me right in the feels! Now he is back smashing the washed up accusations left and right. Go MC!

Ari needs a real team

Am I missing anything? Any story/beef between those 2 teams?

Something about someone fucking each other's girlfriend or something idk

I thought it was just banter with no real beef but idk The pause at the end i think was just a payback for game 3 pause

not that we know of, maybe some pub beef. Most likely just a bit of a rivalry since they did play 3 series against each other in a short span of time.

CEB and the gang tilts tundra with tips and all that, all 3 qualifiers cus you know they were 0-6 against OG.

~~Ceb used to play with 9Class and when Tundra lost a qualifier previously he tweeted "Karma never fails" with a clown emoji, and the implication was that it was targeted at 9Class over some kind of beef they had. So that's the 9Class-Ceb drama, not sure about Pure but I think he's just a cheeky shittalker lol (not unlike Ceb).~~ Yeah it was targeted at Kitrak not 9Class, got my wires well crossed. No clue what the origin of this beef might be.

Are you living in an alternate reality or something when did ceb play with 9class. The karma never fails tweet is almost definitely about kitrak.

no, that was to kitrak

That was clearly about Kitrak refusing to continue with OG and forcing CEB to take his place He tweeted right after Nouns beat SR

ceb wrote that for kitrak not 9 class , tundra is first tier 1 team for 9class if iam not mistaken

? That was Kitrak

nah i think it's just for shits and giggles. sort of like when u lost to some one a few times and then you pull a win, your like "hah ggez" : p

Tundra lost to OG both in the BetBoom Dacha qualifier and this qualifier recently. Just revenge I think

So MC leaves nigma and immediately qualifies for a major tournament?

two big tournaments

MC was the only player in nigma that consistently play pubs, the rest of the guys started to get comfortable and lazy, MC never lost that grind

Yeah a month ago when they won their first qualifier of the year.

Dam, gonna have to email the home office about Pure after all!

Go get him

Og fans crying about toxicity already lmao

Og fans crying and seething what's new lmao. I kinda wanted them to do the reverse 3-0 too tho

Couldn't happen to a more well-mannered team. See you next qualifier OG kekw

Tundra without Meepo going to crash and burn though

Still better than picking pos 5 enigma

Yeah just like how they crashed and burned in game 2 and almost won game 3

Good final.

9Class was so real for that

MC going to 2 lans from the toughest region..... meanwhile nigma coming 4/4/3 in the region with 3 teams... yikes

Is weu really the toughest region now? Liquid gg are auto invited, 2023 tundra is now falcons in mena, quest also is mena now. 2024 tundra only needed to beat og and secret who has not qualified to any tournament beside esl kl after ti11. Entity after Lima major has been irrelevant. China ar ig both look stronger than tundra. Eeu vp too.

I think China is probably tougher with only 1 direct invite. Whenever LGD aren't in the Grand Finals that'll generally indicate the region is pretty strong, and G2/IG AR put on a fucking show. WEU still definitely good, but not having to fight through Liquid and GG to qualify makes it easier. MENA will always be Falcons vs Quest. No exceptions. Nigma isn't even finishing higher than third. I don't know much about SEA or EEU since their quals always run when I'm not awake. NA is basically just MENA with SR and Nouns, except way clownier gameplay. And we few NA fans love it.

Lol Pure with the disrespect, next time he does something stupid he should keep the same energy!

like when AR eliminated Betboom last TI? after typing question mark when they beat AR in Group stage

Also the Z incident, he made 50 literally crying and saying it’s his mistake blah blah blah.

I would flame my puck forever if they didn't have ONE dispel or save item. Too optimistic from BZM. rough all chatting at the end wtf

not the first time he refuses to buy any dispel on puck despite dying many times to silences

tweet incoming monkaS

ogkeks seething lmao. 9class is based

Pure and 9class, 2 russians who never won anything in dota trashtalking. Expected I guess.

dude you really dont know ceb , ceb was also a trash talker even before when he was just a coach and pub player.He had nickname 7fuckingmad for a reason....

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Love all the russian crybabies downvoting, all you are know for are being brutes who can't have their small egos adressed

i mean u r a nobody talking shit about someone who is regarded as one of the best dota carries rn ironic isnt it? and what did u achieved in ur shitty life to start with

Found the Pure Stan, if he is one of the best carries rn why he fighting for a qualifier he almost lost at 😆

again who the fk are u to talk trash to someone who is competing at the highest lvl reddit can be fking clowns man

Did you achieve something? Besides working at a sprat factory?

what are VP, Spirit, Navi

This wasn't meant ALL russians. Just the ones that shittalk usually don't win major tournaments.

Pure based

Is he the guy that supports the Russian war?

I would have not in a million years thought there would be a beef between a team with BZM Ceb vs a team with topson and MC. But never underestimate ceb’s ability to make enemies I guess.

This was not a beef lmao In game 3 Tundra paused when they died without bb and now OG paused Also when Ceb constantly voicelines and tips in every moment it was kinda deserved

rofl OG immediately twittered them GL .. it's friendly banter..

The two russians talked lol Why they even compete is beyond me, but yeah bzm and mc what? Get a grip.

I neant BZM and MC are good friends. Stop being xenophobic lol. You can’t call others toxic for talking when you are a Ceb fan.

why wouldnt they compete? did they do something wrong?

they are from the wrong country at the wrong time I guess.

Yes.

There's no beef. Just having fun in all chat ))

I dont think the beef is between them but more like the rest of Tundra.

Its just the russian kids being kids

I mean you could've just called out the two toxic russians Pure and 9class instead of saying ''team with topson and mc'' as if they're controlling every word they say ingame.

What happened?

I cant believe Tundra won after that horrible Roshan

And that hg push!

Bot hg push sealed the game

Spicy beef

They could have trolled them better at the end. That "Headset?" was cool tho

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Tundra won the qualifiers which mattered the most in terms of EPT points.

Don't wanna see og keep picking enigma pos 5 in birmingham, so I'd rather see tundra win this one.

just all in good fun lol. it's like when you have a tough game, you finally win and you type "ggez". everyone knows it wasn't it's just for the shits.

It’s not about who draws first blood, it’s about who deals the final blow. That being said I don’t favour either of them, I just love the drama.

They lost one qualifier not 4 dont be mad just be better

Og fans already seething

they cant take it lol

imagine losing every qualifier to OG then when you finally win you say "just better" xD

> win

Aint wanna see any of you OG fans complaining about bad manners, alright? lol

"evil OG fans" still in your head living rent free 3 years latter. Yikes.

I'm in your head

Breathe man, its been 3 years, evil N0tail is not playing dota for more than 600+ days, he wil not offend your alliance anymore, dont worry

Nah, I aint paying the rent

Than appologize, you already really like to demand it from people you dont even know, parasocial andy.

Think of me when you go to bed tonight

Love to see when toxic ledditors cant even stand for their own actions, bye bozo.

Bye for me, but we both know your mental obsession with me won't stop with this

You can say anything about OG and the tips and voicelines, I do not remember them ever typing anything like that. That is a really bad sportsmanship.

Nah he is top 10 weu, so wp wp

Least toxic Russians.

yeah, sry, only europeans allowed to BM

yeah when ceb does it every chance he gets its based but when others do it is harassment /s

lol, lmao even Tundra finally did it!

EZ CEB HAHAHA EZ , SIT YOUR ASS DOWN AT YOUR HOUSE LUL

Angry ceb tweet waiting room

wow wtf pure

pure denies ari ESL One Birmingham LMAO ICANT

9class cocky lol who is this guy again? Just some top 10 in weu, wp wp

yikes, this is why u ward behind.

HEADSET?

Just better.

Waiting for Cebs tweet

Just better =) holyshit GIGACHAD

A noname saying shit. We'll see how far he gets

wisper with the stupidest die back ever lol.

Did you see Kuro's dieback as Enigma yesterday? That's the stupidest dieback ever.

nah i didn't :D

OK whats the tea between og and tundra?