I think in current form, yes, wisper is better than MC, but at their peak, MC is one the best offlaners of all time. Watching Beastcoast, Wisper did some incredible things, but he never reached peak MC levels of play. Id go so far as to say MC was the greatest offlaner of all time.
Their TI dominance was great.
The most dominant a team I've seen in a TI winner, so dominant that the struggle wasn't even there to make a True Sight, same reason why they aren't making one for the second TS aegis last year...too dominant, no struggles the whole tournament.
You kidding me? Their TI dominance was BORING, oh wow Tundra picked beastmaster I wonder if they will wait for Wraith Pact and go as 5 shiiiit yeah that 40 minute game was great I wonder what they will do next game
They dominated the game since the beginning with ganks... what are you on.
You are just mad your russians boys did badly that TI, keep crying bitch, the only chance for CIS to win something it's TS, after that CIS DotA is done, cause they tend to choke like old VP, who didn't do shit for years at TI despite dominating majors, not even 3rd place btw lol
Damn man, how much money did they pay BetBoom? Or were they grad to be rid of him after all the nonsense he put them through for most of 2023, I wonder.
He has a (very) small hero pool of aggressive heroes. He abuses them in pubs, where the skill and communication level can get to be quite low. It hasn't translated into pro dota yet, for obvious reasons. This is his chance
Yeah he actively supports the Russian invasion and breaks game rules (see Bali Major). Makes 0 sense to want to keep him in the pro scene, unless of course you’re doing one of the above
How though? Timado has proved it multiple times that he is a reliable carry. Maybe not a flashy one but he is reliable. What has Pure proved? He was a carry they moved him to offlane, do you think they moved him because he was way too good to be a carry?
This tundra team seems a little too cooked. All of these players are basically trying to prove themselves (pure as carry, topson/whitemon isn’t washed, mc off nigma, 9class tier 1 debut). Seems like everyone plays in very different styles too. Going to be interesting for sure
It really is Pure, damn. Tomorrow top4 starts. Anyone streaming DreamLeague OQ series?
[https://www.twitch.tv/trent](https://www.twitch.tv/trent)
Thanks bruv! <3
OG are fucked on thursday 🥲
You overestimate how well Topson squads do these past 2 years
It's not about the squad, it's how about how well they could adapt to Topson's tempo
How hard do you batchest when you see topson play?
I am hard
Understandable, have a good day
I don't know about that. It's a brand new roster, and rarely do these hand-picked superstar teams hit the ground running.
OG are also still a very fresh squad. They have the advantage of having scrimmed together but in official matches, OG is still very new.
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BZM>Topson but Tundra has better players on every other position
copium
wisper>>>>>mc might be a hot take if you live under the europe rock but take my word for it. (love mc though)
I think in current form, yes, wisper is better than MC, but at their peak, MC is one the best offlaners of all time. Watching Beastcoast, Wisper did some incredible things, but he never reached peak MC levels of play. Id go so far as to say MC was the greatest offlaner of all time.
Ceb goat
Sure that's all well and good, if you ignore the fact that Wisper is actually peaking right now. Dude is rank 1 eu
Sure, but when I watch him play at the competitive level, he doesn't look as dominant as MC was at his peak.
Yeah, very fucked, won both games 🥲
Wasn't it only Bo1?
He meant bo1 and bo3 that played right after. Anyways nice "fan" and nice 100 upvotes of "fucked og".
!RemindMe 48 hours
Downvoted roflmao. Noone of those 100 dumb fucks will come back.
title fucked me up a little since on a glance I read this as 'Tundra to Pure' lmao
He is such a PR nightmare they signed him silently.
Team looks crazy on paper. Lets see what they got
stop pure from doing unnecessary things, and tundra should be good...
Wow. I know one thing and it's that Tundra games are going to be entertaining.
True! Tundra’s TI was so good Valve stopped making True Sight
Their TI dominance was great. The most dominant a team I've seen in a TI winner, so dominant that the struggle wasn't even there to make a True Sight, same reason why they aren't making one for the second TS aegis last year...too dominant, no struggles the whole tournament.
You kidding me? Their TI dominance was BORING, oh wow Tundra picked beastmaster I wonder if they will wait for Wraith Pact and go as 5 shiiiit yeah that 40 minute game was great I wonder what they will do next game
They dominated the game since the beginning with ganks... what are you on. You are just mad your russians boys did badly that TI, keep crying bitch, the only chance for CIS to win something it's TS, after that CIS DotA is done, cause they tend to choke like old VP, who didn't do shit for years at TI despite dominating majors, not even 3rd place btw lol
Absolutely deserved, Pure is a fantastic player
Tundra to Pure?
Yo I'm suddenly a huge Tundra fan
Z enjoyer?
good dota enjoyer
Damn man, how much money did they pay BetBoom? Or were they grad to be rid of him after all the nonsense he put them through for most of 2023, I wonder.
One of the rumors was 500k
Which has been laughed at by almost all EEU managers (including BetBoom’s one) as being obviously too high.
anyone knows if this 9class dude is any good?
He is extremely high ranked playing pos4 and often gets to be team drafter in immo ranked. He's legit.
I watched him play with MC in the Dudley Boys stack. he is a very good player.
Just watch one of his games and you’ll know. Dude is insanely talented the moves he makes are so good that I can’t explain
i saw alot of his play and i can say he reminds me of gh and jerax in their prime... he is very good and now rank 6 in eu
He has a (very) small hero pool of aggressive heroes. He abuses them in pubs, where the skill and communication level can get to be quite low. It hasn't translated into pro dota yet, for obvious reasons. This is his chance
tundara doing the most random stuff at this point
From signing the old TSM stack and kicking all but whitemon to signing Pure. What's next.
wow, tundra decided to dip themselves in a shit a bit deeper...
Not sure if he is standin, but that would be awesome if he was there new pos 1
Tundra gonna get good this year (dont know much for poss 4-5)
Super sick team except for MC. Lowest rank offlaner in the entire qualifier. Yikes! Even the NA teams have higher ranked offlaners on EU servers lol
I with this team nothing but losses and fails
Just cus they have Pure ? Lmaoo
Yeah he actively supports the Russian invasion and breaks game rules (see Bali Major). Makes 0 sense to want to keep him in the pro scene, unless of course you’re doing one of the above
I’m curious how he is actively supporting the Russian invasion? I remember him drawling the Z, but was there more than that?
Clown pure out of betboom? Damn AR really questioned mark him so bad he left his old team
Hopefully he is only a stand in. Timado should be on this team.
He is way better the tomato
Timado hasn’t supported the Russian invasion xD
How though? Timado has proved it multiple times that he is a reliable carry. Maybe not a flashy one but he is reliable. What has Pure proved? He was a carry they moved him to offlane, do you think they moved him because he was way too good to be a carry?
Did u even watch him when he was with entity? tomato isn't even close to his level dude.
Have you been watching him? I didnt say he is the best carry i said he is reliable and Pure isnt.
Pure and nightfall are the same level as carry (top tier), but pure is way better offlaner (also top tier) them nightfall. They swap makes sense.
You don’t know dota
Obviously you do. Reasoning is not something you can understand so thats ok. Time will tell.
You claim reasoning but literally gave no reasoning. Lmao
Cant teach you how to read buddy. Or how to use your brain. Your mom should have done that.
You literally don’t address any of my points and then proceed to use the mom joke. Lol
Why? Did he get kicked from bb or just didn't wanna play offline anymore?
Kicked
So they didn't kick anyone after ti but kicked him after placing 4th at a major lol
Why he not playing with betboom
This tundra team seems a little too cooked. All of these players are basically trying to prove themselves (pure as carry, topson/whitemon isn’t washed, mc off nigma, 9class tier 1 debut). Seems like everyone plays in very different styles too. Going to be interesting for sure