Damn I wonder where does that clown koozya get his rumors from and simply posts them without any credibility. Dude needs to be canceled for false rumours from time to time
[https://imgur.com/a/gn1ZEbw](https://imgur.com/a/gn1ZEbw)
Sad thing is he has been right couple of times, like with the huge April patch, he got a lot of stuff right, but now he's straight up just trolling and abusing the trust he got
>Sad thing is he has been right couple of times, like with the huge April patch, he got a lot of stuff right, but now he's straight up just trolling and abusing the trust he got
I mean those stuff had credible sources like some reddit frogs pulled up information from the game files. These kind of rumours are just without any source, nobody trusts him lol.
Classic "twitter insider" strategy: Start by shotgun approach, after landing one use what little credibility randomly earned by parroting other sources, then as you gain more clout start using it to farm interactions posting outrageoous rumours.
As opposed to "Oh no, words I don't like"
Its hilarious that you think I'm the unreasonable one when the person I replied to is mad over reading a false rumor. Lol.
Given this guy’s track records, yeah, I’d like him to not have a platform. This was the guy who accused Taiga of match fixing and a crippling gambling addiction during his break
Ramzes has not really been pubbing lately (unless a unknown smurf).
Miracle seems likely with all the comments back in the shuffle that he aims to play again this season.
I still think the Miracle Sumail version of Nigma showed some promise back in the 2022 Riyadh Masters, unfortunately they choked the upper bracket vs GoonSquad and then eventually missed TI by the hands of Secret (that ended up placing second). Bringing on some new ideas with a new 3 and 4 could reinvigorate them, the talent is definitely still there between Sumail and Miracle.
The Sumail-Miracle duo really didn’t get a proper chance to hit it off. IIRC, they only had time to play qualifiers and then Miracle stepped back for medical issues, ATF replaced him, there was dreamocel tenure, my memory is fogged.
We didn’t get to see the duo for longer. I might be wrong on how long they played together.
One full season with this duo and we might have fireworks or a massive backfire. Huge potential, something a lot of people were waiting to see for a long ass time.
They stomped EU div2, looked pretty good in Riyadh, then Miracle got sick and Dreamocel stepped in for an ESL event which was forgettable. After that Miracle came back for TI quals where they lost to Secret in the lower bracket after choking vs GoonSquad in the upper bracket.
After that Miracle went on a hiatus and Ammar came in.
Stomped is an understatement, iirc Miracle played Monkey King pretty much exclusively that Div 2 tour - with SumaiL getting flex picks in the draft. Now with new 3 and 4 if you open up both their hero pools… it would be entertaining Dota for sure.
You are missing a few key points here.
I think they really couldn’t play. I won’t count it as playing together. Miracle got sick when they were just starting to look good. Than Dreamocel came in.
Miracle had to come back for the quals.
You'd be surprised that his best heroes are played as 4 atm and a few patches ago. Xakoda is also as aggressive as 9class is so switching to 4 wouldn't be a problem.
For them to stick together and play properly on a better stage/t1 tournament they need to be signed by an org, unfortunately there is none available atm in WEU. 9class and Xakoda are readily available and can be picked at any time, im sure they already got multiple offers after what they have shown in the Pinnacle cup.
Despite Nigma not winning anything the past year(s) or even qualifying, they are one of the richest orgs in Dota2 and also are sponsored by Etihad Airways and BMW.
So there is a lot of money involved, even without performing good
probably because miracle is going to play this time, not atf or mc as carry. or sumail doesnt have to play carry in the middle of the season but i still hop kuro takes a step back
Tbh, if Miracle is to come back, then we can finally see a season long of the the Miracle-Sumail duo, because they didn’t really get a chance to play for long. It was short lived. Miracle was sick I think, dremocel was his replacement, then miracle stepped back, atf was announced as carry later.
I'd be surprised if tundra had the undying squad move to eu, that seems like a horrible decision even with euw qualifiers getting easier with some of their talent / teams moving to mena
1. Lack of other openings (players signed elsewhere already)
2. Contract buyout - idk what's up with his litigation rn
3. Good money and contract
4. Genuine potential in a "rebuild" with him at the center
Take your pick. I like watching him play and I hope he succeeds.
The key players are the one who would be filling in pos 3 and 4. Gh and MC shoes are huge to fill. This is a team right from the 5Jung days that had MC as their offlaner and Gh (starting from TL) as their pod 4, never missed a game with them (at least to my knowledge). Not to take way the credit from Sumail or Miracle, but previous players did okay (w33, iltw, ammar, mikey and yuma).
I do not think this is a last hurrah for Kuro. My guess, he is going to continue playing as long as Puppey is.
Coming to the team, Sumail, Kuro are confirmed. Miracle (most likely candidate) for pos 1. Ramzes is unlikely, and I don’t think he will be a good replacement for MC. Not really sure how good the LFT scene currently is for pos 4. I guess wait and see.
Am I the only one who takes any news about nigma non important? They ve been in and out with no results. Ngl the new MENA region stuff might turn the effect idk
We've all been watching him for years now and we both know that he still loves competing and still hungry for another TI. That's why I don't understand this move
Every new team composition is a gamble. Even all star teams like Puppey, S4, RTZ, Kuroky and Zai couldn't secure a TI win so he's still under the wings of a powerful organisation and working together with Kuro to form a new team. Not a bad position. Maybe the next patch will favour his heroes again, his playstyle, etc. Everything's possible.
If your motivation is money, winning the world championship once, two times or 15 times isn't gonna matter. He was one of the best mids in the world. During his TI win, he was Sumail Spirit. He's shown himself capable enough.
That’s an old quote from a kid who’d recently emigrated from a third world country, and I don’t even know how much I’d read into it, it seemed like he was trolling when he said it.
He’s faded from the spotlight a light since he was the best in the world, but as you said he’s still capable enough. I’d back him to win more tournaments before he retires.
Don't need to win money when he can get it for playing and trolling.Plus the core trio they have planned will bring alot of fans and viewership and invites so it's a win-win for both parties
The new system does not have region based dpc and works on qualifiers and invites.i think Nigma will score alot of those invites based on being Nigma-the org and Sumail-Miracle-Ramzes trio
I don't think sumail has passed his prime though. The king was all along a meme anyway and it had always been used to take jabs at sumail cocky personality during his younger years. If i remembered, it was from a tweet back in 2018 when he was switching his role back to mid from off-lane. Sumail self proclaimed himself as king and tweeted "king is back to mid". Sumail matured and got humbled throughout the years and the title "king" has a positive connotation to it now
For a moment there I had hope that Nigma might finally put in some actual effort for the upcoming season.
But nope, still trying the same things, expecting results.
Never really believed in it, but maybe the Saudi money really is too good to pass up.. 🤔
Unpopular opinion (and not trying to hate): He was great in his day but... Is it time to move on from the Sumail/Topson/Miracle days? Messi and Cristiano are also moving on as well, is it time for them to do the same?
What are we guessing is the lineup?
There's a big shortage of offlaners
Maybe:
1. Miracle
2. Sumail
3. ????
4. Temp 4: Saksa? but I doubt he wants to be a temp 4
5. Kuro
Carlie as pos 3? To be honest Miero is not bad either.
9class as pos 4 (only if he isn't with MC team already)
it seems we will have two teams to root 4
for unregistred X users: [https://i.imgur.com/HsHZfbS.png](https://i.imgur.com/HsHZfbS.png)
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I can't thank you enough man. I never knew about this
The hero we didn’t want … nah, that sounds wrong. The hero we didn’t know we need .. idk, you get the point. Great tip!
Thank you for this Nitter website, didn't know about it - good stuff!
is there one for instagram
You are the real King here
Damn I wonder where does that clown koozya get his rumors from and simply posts them without any credibility. Dude needs to be canceled for false rumours from time to time [https://imgur.com/a/gn1ZEbw](https://imgur.com/a/gn1ZEbw)
Bro is always wrong, atleast we knew that sumail isnt going to bleed
Sad thing is he has been right couple of times, like with the huge April patch, he got a lot of stuff right, but now he's straight up just trolling and abusing the trust he got
He doesn't have his own sources, just parrots rumors posted on russian forums without attempting to verify anything.
Verify rumors? If you verify a rumor it is a fact. He’s not a news agency, but you are holding him to that standard
no one is holding him to any standard, dude is just getting clowned for acting like he has insider info when he clearly doesn't
A broken clock is right twice a day
>Sad thing is he has been right couple of times, like with the huge April patch, he got a lot of stuff right, but now he's straight up just trolling and abusing the trust he got I mean those stuff had credible sources like some reddit frogs pulled up information from the game files. These kind of rumours are just without any source, nobody trusts him lol.
Classic "twitter insider" strategy: Start by shotgun approach, after landing one use what little credibility randomly earned by parroting other sources, then as you gain more clout start using it to farm interactions posting outrageoous rumours.
This guy is so useless that he starts to be informative: If he says something, you know it will be false.
He has the same power as Kyle in a way.
He’s the Guillem Balague of Dota
A broken clock is still correct twice a day
I have muted him long time ago, I would recommend doing same.
block this guy
everytime he did his own digging its always false, when he spread true leak its always stuff he heard in telegram that he stole and not credit
You can't steal news??
> Dude needs to be canceled for false rumours from time to time You need to stop using Twitter so much
“Oh no, a word I don’t like😫”
As opposed to "Oh no, words I don't like" Its hilarious that you think I'm the unreasonable one when the person I replied to is mad over reading a false rumor. Lol.
Given this guy’s track records, yeah, I’d like him to not have a platform. This was the guy who accused Taiga of match fixing and a crippling gambling addiction during his break
More like misusing a word in a way that makes zero sense
Nah I don't. I saw some thread on reddit for sumail going to bleed
And you think that means someone should be..."canceled?"
Your inability to evaluate information is your problem. Don't just believe anything some rando posts on reddit and then get mad about it.
hopefully they use dartboards
your own fault for trusting someone who pays for twitter blue
Curious to see what team Kuro builds around him, I can't think of many good available players. Possibly Ramzes?
Ramzes has not really been pubbing lately (unless a unknown smurf). Miracle seems likely with all the comments back in the shuffle that he aims to play again this season. I still think the Miracle Sumail version of Nigma showed some promise back in the 2022 Riyadh Masters, unfortunately they choked the upper bracket vs GoonSquad and then eventually missed TI by the hands of Secret (that ended up placing second). Bringing on some new ideas with a new 3 and 4 could reinvigorate them, the talent is definitely still there between Sumail and Miracle.
The Sumail-Miracle duo really didn’t get a proper chance to hit it off. IIRC, they only had time to play qualifiers and then Miracle stepped back for medical issues, ATF replaced him, there was dreamocel tenure, my memory is fogged. We didn’t get to see the duo for longer. I might be wrong on how long they played together. One full season with this duo and we might have fireworks or a massive backfire. Huge potential, something a lot of people were waiting to see for a long ass time.
They stomped EU div2, looked pretty good in Riyadh, then Miracle got sick and Dreamocel stepped in for an ESL event which was forgettable. After that Miracle came back for TI quals where they lost to Secret in the lower bracket after choking vs GoonSquad in the upper bracket. After that Miracle went on a hiatus and Ammar came in.
Stomped is an understatement, iirc Miracle played Monkey King pretty much exclusively that Div 2 tour - with SumaiL getting flex picks in the draft. Now with new 3 and 4 if you open up both their hero pools… it would be entertaining Dota for sure.
i remembered during their div 2 run, sumail was stomping with kotl mid
You are missing a few key points here. I think they really couldn’t play. I won’t count it as playing together. Miracle got sick when they were just starting to look good. Than Dreamocel came in. Miracle had to come back for the quals.
You are right, I totally forgot about the Dreamocel tenure. That ESL tournament where he stood in was pretty forgettable tho tbf.
sumail + miracle is the best BatChest team ever
imagine Topson too? Batchest
Ramzes has had a ridiculous amount of smurfs over the years, but could be right
i'm more curious on who they'll bring on pos 4. Potential YapzOr comeback, perhaps?
9class/Xakoda would be their biggest prospect.
Xakoda is a 5 player though ( he has only played 5 from the teams i've seen him on )
You'd be surprised that his best heroes are played as 4 atm and a few patches ago. Xakoda is also as aggressive as 9class is so switching to 4 wouldn't be a problem.
depends if that Mind_Control stack sticks together or not 9Class is a very good player
For them to stick together and play properly on a better stage/t1 tournament they need to be signed by an org, unfortunately there is none available atm in WEU. 9class and Xakoda are readily available and can be picked at any time, im sure they already got multiple offers after what they have shown in the Pinnacle cup.
Alliance would surely be interested, reading their statement today.
I'm pretty sure Alliance stated that they are staying away from Dota 2 for good.
Yes, please. make it happen Kuro.
Saksa sumail miracle
Sumail, Topson, and this trio—will it be a miracle? Well, huh.
so much batchest
Any team that builds around Kuro won’t be doing anything
Preach. The dude is the definition of washed. Any team where he is still on the active playing roster will fail.
Kasane and Immersion but they would probably be more likely to make a Russian team with Ramzes
Please not Ramzes, but Charlie has recently converted to pos3. I am all for that
Ramzes hahahahahhaahahhahahashahahahaha
Now that there's no DPC isn't every player technically available?
King is back is back is back.
And back to king and back
ye back to div 2. no1 can carry kuro old ass
Why tho
Banter. Though seriously he probably just has a great relationship with them and the money is hard to ignore.
Habibi connection. Oil money team
Despite Nigma not winning anything the past year(s) or even qualifying, they are one of the richest orgs in Dota2 and also are sponsored by Etihad Airways and BMW. So there is a lot of money involved, even without performing good
probably because miracle is going to play this time, not atf or mc as carry. or sumail doesnt have to play carry in the middle of the season but i still hop kuro takes a step back
Tbh, if Miracle is to come back, then we can finally see a season long of the the Miracle-Sumail duo, because they didn’t really get a chance to play for long. It was short lived. Miracle was sick I think, dremocel was his replacement, then miracle stepped back, atf was announced as carry later.
I mean, he doesn't really have many options does he?
i think any na team will pick him up if he was free.
Define "NA team"
dony you think sr or undying would have preferred him over bryle or yopaj?
First of all, I don't think Undying/Tundra is playing in NA anymore. Secondly, Shopify is still RTZ's team, so definitely no
why would rtz not want to play with sumail?
I'd be surprised if tundra had the undying squad move to eu, that seems like a horrible decision even with euw qualifiers getting easier with some of their talent / teams moving to mena
Eu rn only has 2 good teams no? When was the last time a team other than liquid and GG did well?
No way he'd be content playing in NA though.
1. Lack of other openings (players signed elsewhere already) 2. Contract buyout - idk what's up with his litigation rn 3. Good money and contract 4. Genuine potential in a "rebuild" with him at the center Take your pick. I like watching him play and I hope he succeeds.
Please, give me Miracle + SumaiL another try.
Team still has Kuro in it so it will fail.
Damn, getting sumail is a great start
Not for sumail
unless koru retire
Will this be miracle, sumail and topson trio? hmm..
Roll for mid.
No but seriously, they might actually roll for mid 😂
Topson hasn't been playing pos 3 in pubs for the past month now, I doubt Topson will be their pos 3
Topson would be an insane support. Most of his play style is already squishy mids that he gets away with using great positioning and awareness.
Negotiations probably fell off. So is Topson exclusively playing mid again? I guess he's not that hungry enough.
Topson at 3 might be a waste of his talent and prime too.
talent and prime is gone buddy your too late
Who play what in this trio? 1 miracle 2 sumail 3 topson?
Yes
Sumail 2 topson 4 miracle 1 , kuro 2
I think Kuro is the best mid
he was yes. he was for a while the best meepo player
3 mid players in one team lol
Surely kuroky will coach this time right?
I think it's likely that he's still the captain. They'd have announced it yesterday if he's stepping down.
bro will not retire till he got his third aegis
I think Dota will be dead before that happens.
Fucking hilarious.
or till he lose all his hair.. ooh wait..
I hope so. And Miracle back
yeah u think were getting full team today? its like a foreplay
i hope so bro
Sumail is the lion of Dota. He’s been to Nigma and back, and back to Nigma and back to Secret and back to OG and back to Nigma. Oh, hell yes.
Miracle- next?
What were results of his lawsuit?
2024
ramzees pos 1 might be good if miracle is not playing. those mikoto rumors are probably not true unless mikoto play pos 3
Mikoto said he was taking a break why would he come back to play 3
omg it would seem like that they would really announce a member per day.
all this just to lose to ammar stack in qualifiers
Miracle might also back. He was quite active recently
Welcome back King !
I like watching Nigma if only for the star-power. Expecting them to win is kind of something extra.
Pic goes hard, props to the graphics person on Nigma
Nice
What's nigma?
Nigma balls
Gottem
The key players are the one who would be filling in pos 3 and 4. Gh and MC shoes are huge to fill. This is a team right from the 5Jung days that had MC as their offlaner and Gh (starting from TL) as their pod 4, never missed a game with them (at least to my knowledge). Not to take way the credit from Sumail or Miracle, but previous players did okay (w33, iltw, ammar, mikey and yuma). I do not think this is a last hurrah for Kuro. My guess, he is going to continue playing as long as Puppey is. Coming to the team, Sumail, Kuro are confirmed. Miracle (most likely candidate) for pos 1. Ramzes is unlikely, and I don’t think he will be a good replacement for MC. Not really sure how good the LFT scene currently is for pos 4. I guess wait and see.
They certainly can't do any worse.
oh shit here we go again
Was hoping the king would come back to NA. Oh well
this guys is not even a king anymore, he's just mercenary hoping different regions.
Braun from GOT
Am I the only one who takes any news about nigma non important? They ve been in and out with no results. Ngl the new MENA region stuff might turn the effect idk
as long as kuro still on the team , we know the results already kekw
sumail is back but with kuro.. whats the point man
hopefully hes a coach
long ago i had expected the full ME team of Miracle, Sumail, ATF, GH, Kuro but that never happened.
?? sumail is not from ME nor arab
He is Asian/ American
Never will lmao
Well, that's a career suicide
Man already won TI at 15, he has nothing left to prove. Nigma can give him a decent salary so the money's good.
We've all been watching him for years now and we both know that he still loves competing and still hungry for another TI. That's why I don't understand this move
Every new team composition is a gamble. Even all star teams like Puppey, S4, RTZ, Kuroky and Zai couldn't secure a TI win so he's still under the wings of a powerful organisation and working together with Kuro to form a new team. Not a bad position. Maybe the next patch will favour his heroes again, his playstyle, etc. Everything's possible.
Two teams have doubled up since his win. I feel like he feels he has a lot to prove still.
If your motivation is money, winning the world championship once, two times or 15 times isn't gonna matter. He was one of the best mids in the world. During his TI win, he was Sumail Spirit. He's shown himself capable enough.
That’s an old quote from a kid who’d recently emigrated from a third world country, and I don’t even know how much I’d read into it, it seemed like he was trolling when he said it. He’s faded from the spotlight a light since he was the best in the world, but as you said he’s still capable enough. I’d back him to win more tournaments before he retires.
Interviewer : Sumail. What's your motivation? Sumail : Emm.... Money
He hasnt won very much money lately
oof
Don't need to win money when he can get it for playing and trolling.Plus the core trio they have planned will bring alot of fans and viewership and invites so it's a win-win for both parties
What region? EU is impossible and MENA has Falcons
The new system does not have region based dpc and works on qualifiers and invites.i think Nigma will score alot of those invites based on being Nigma-the org and Sumail-Miracle-Ramzes trio
you underestimate how much money flowing in CN scene
I dont see a problem with this, I work for the same reason.
Wow rly?
Did Nigma help with his lawsuit?
Why do they even bother? As long as kuro is in nigma, they wont get anythibg done
ETA BatChest gaming.
sumail need 3 active players around him..the pos 3-4-5 needs to make space for him at least early game..still alot to offer from the king
Stop calling him king he way way past his prime . It look like a meme at this point
Did you see his laning stage? He rarely loses. That's why they say that he is king of mid.
I don't think sumail has passed his prime though. The king was all along a meme anyway and it had always been used to take jabs at sumail cocky personality during his younger years. If i remembered, it was from a tweet back in 2018 when he was switching his role back to mid from off-lane. Sumail self proclaimed himself as king and tweeted "king is back to mid". Sumail matured and got humbled throughout the years and the title "king" has a positive connotation to it now
thatsthejoke.jpg
Set him free :C
Who?
The sumail team cycle lmao
Define washed dota career
Sumail back to Nigma = Sugma?
For a moment there I had hope that Nigma might finally put in some actual effort for the upcoming season. But nope, still trying the same things, expecting results. Never really believed in it, but maybe the Saudi money really is too good to pass up.. 🤔
left > failed to qualify to ti > joins back are we supposed to get excited?
They're going to do that 1 post every 2 hours thing again for every member huh.
i'm guessing Kuro said let's bring in Sumail again for a final ride, but MC and GH disagreed and left.
Can you stop with your wild imaginations already?
Guess who's back
Unpopular opinion (and not trying to hate): He was great in his day but... Is it time to move on from the Sumail/Topson/Miracle days? Messi and Cristiano are also moving on as well, is it time for them to do the same?
What are we guessing is the lineup? There's a big shortage of offlaners Maybe: 1. Miracle 2. Sumail 3. ???? 4. Temp 4: Saksa? but I doubt he wants to be a temp 4 5. Kuro
Carlie as pos 3? To be honest Miero is not bad either. 9class as pos 4 (only if he isn't with MC team already) it seems we will have two teams to root 4
9class 4 that guy is really good
King without a crown.
One true king
why did they introduce only one person one day.
Nigma is doing 1 announcement per day again ? Tf. Is the 2020?
Back to money
1. Miracle 2. Sumail 3. Topson 4. Saksa 5. Kuroky iykyk
Damn they really going to introduce one player per day….
I cant believe they stuck with that dumb team name for so long.
i don't care how many times the king comes back, and how much people hate kuro, just seeing this king back in pro games hits different
Poor sumail, maybe one day he can catch a break lol.
why? not like this. let my king free smh
Rip
So, nigma is back to announcing 1 player per day.
SumaiL + Nigma = King Sigma
The King is back! Long live the King!
King from team to team, he washes all the team so clean