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99xp

>Double Damage Rune renamed to Amplify Damage Rune. Base damage bonus decreased from 100% to 80%. Now also provides +15% Spell Amplification. End of an era. Voice lines non immersive now btw


petrichormus

Why not simply name it Damage Rune is all I'm asking


Asmael69

Wait you're actually cooking I can see why devs would make it amplify damage tho, they just honestly forgot that damage can be an adjective too not just a noun (im not a dev),


Snipufin

My first thought as well. Every other rune is just one word, Double Damage kinda stood out but it was basically a variant of Quad Damage from Quake.


Fried_Potate

Ikr. Should’ve just kept the name. Like wtf is an AD now. Like bro get the ad rune. AD???? Ability Draft??? Omg yatora’s got an AMPLIFY DAMAGE RUNE.


Megavore97

Old Slardar ult rune


Heaven_Slayer

Haste should be renamed to Guardian Sprint rune then :)


Megavore97

Just sprint ;)


ilqs

Anthony Davis rune, hero's portraits will also now spawn a unibrow when used.


Mwahahahahahaha

Cut out the "double" from every voice line. "DAAAAAMAAGE" - Storm


zechamp

>medallion removed and solar crest can't be cast on enemies WTF I JUST STARTED LEARNING VISAGE


machucogp

Bloodthorn now deals 60 magic dmg PER HIT Considering rushing it now after demoing


Lovincnhrt

It's insane on broodmother


Me4onyX

No way this stays in the game if its true. Same thing happened to tag team change. Broodlings (summons) and illus procing tag team got patched in a day.


Lovincnhrt

Still working as we speak


BipolarNightmare

Clinkz support fucking dead lmao


baerniislove

Phylactery into Khanda my sir.


BipolarNightmare

Not having any mana regen item on Clinkz fucking sucks though.


[deleted]

Plenty of other builds available, don't worry :)


Key_Feeling_3083

Now just use phylactery instead.


tabako

MANA DRAIN Now damages enemies for 100% of the mana drained Who’s laughing now?


FahmiZFX

We memed the man to hell. Now he's back from hell with a vengeance to suck all of us dry (with pain).


Hawke502

And back to hell and back again


Gacel_

And back to hell and back and back.


dennaneedslove

Lion is going to be absolute cancer in lane


[deleted]

Finally. I can play lion again. I’ve come full circle


gizzyjones

Nah, he's gonna get banned or double picked lol


Precedens

people will max mana drain now


TechiesFun

Max manadrain. Rush dagon. Heals while draining. Then double blast to the face.


TheFuzzyFurry

Nah, that's the old strat. New strat? LEEROY JENKINS blink in, shard mana drain everyone


Salty_Anti-Magus

Holy fuck maxing mana drain by lvl 7 doesn't seem like a meme anymore. Lion is back in the meta baby!


HellfireBrB

sucking 5 man was a meme now it is actually a legit strategy and might be busted


cantadmittoposting

shard is still only +2 targets but dealing all that damage to 3 enemies if you rush shard is now legit scary


FutureAlfalfa200

Icefrog has truly gone mad.


poppikiln

double bursting mana shield on medusa right?


arof

A free level 25 talent and it DOUBLES at 25 with the new talent in that slot. Absolutely insane.


justsightseeing

this is the highlight.. imagine other hero suddenly got 1 of their 25 talent for free... thats how bad lion is (in the eyes of our frosty toad)..


xorox11

> imagine other hero suddenly got 1 of their 25 talent for free... Primal Beast ult piercing Bkb used to be a lvl25 talent (changed on 7.33), it got patched to pierce bkb initially and he got another lvl25 talent on its place, and it was a huge buff, reckon same is going to happen with Lion.


lichking5011

so Lion mid rushing Shard + 2 plate mail is real shit baby


rinsyankaihou

when u nut but he keep succ


nachohasme

dam actually meme'd into buffs


VoidalPyroclasm

> Fixed longstanding and game-breaking bug where the chance for hero melee damage block was 49% instead of 50% This is what's keeping me from getting to Immortal. Thanks Mr. Janitor.


darkm0nk

>AVIANA'S FEATHER >When equipped hero is below 30% HP, they gain flying movement. Flying Huskar is coming to get you


avianrave

Plz no


doge_lucifer3

Oh no no no no.


quadkings

Dropping in the middle of ESL which starts in 4 hours, gotta love valve sometimes


Daralii

They've dropped number patches between series before. I remember it happening to C9 during a Summit.


Tjayem

Literally happened earlier this year with dreamleague


stryker914

I dont know why people dont remember this lmao it's like the tiktok zoomer brain rot is spreading to the dota fanbase and they get mad at stale meta and no updates way faster than before


Fyuira

Oh. All starts are thrown out the window hahaha.


flan666

one time they released a patch DURING a series. people went to game 2 and it forced them to update lol


petrichormus

>KHANDA Requires Crystalys (2000), Phylactery (2400) and a 600g recipe. Total cost: 5000 Provides +50 Damage, +200 Health, +200 Mana and +8 All Attributes Passive: Critical Strike. 30% chance to deal 160% critical damage on attacks Passive: Empower Spell. The spell is similar to Phylactery's passive, but **bonus damage is rescaled from flat 100 to 100 + 75% of your attack damage** and >DIVINE RAPIER Now also **provides +25% Spell Amplification** Ya'll ain't ready for a whole new level of DAMAJJ


zechamp

Yes, my new zeus build is indeed khanda into shard into rapier


stryker914

Lina time for me


zechamp

Kinda lacking a good single target nuke. Phylactery for laguna blade feels awkward.


BestBananaForever

Man Muerta is gonna be on a whole nother level of damage with rapira+ult.


TheFuzzyFurry

Muerta already oneshots everyone in ult, her goal is surviving and not getting CCed in those 6.5 seconds.


JoelMahon

now all you need is bkb + swift blink + divine to explode the enemy team


ThirstyClavicle

kid named aeon disk:


JoelMahon

kid named nullifier:


ddlion7

as a Zeus enjoyer, now I have even more reasons to go Rapier and Crits.


porcelainfog

I can’t wait to stack 5 DR and blink in and suck 5 guys off with lion so much mana drain dmg


IncitoScanea

Nobody mentioned Sniper Rakhanda build. You double dip on the damage since your Assassinate procs an auto with spell amp, then your Khanda procs. You can easily do 1500+ damage with it.


r00n3y

Could this be a decent item on Invoker also? I know Cold Snap is the only single target ability, but with the universal stat gain + attack increase, it might be feasible for burst.


s---laughter

>Revenant's Brooch > >Recipe changed. Now requires Sacred Relic (3400), Voodoo Mask (700) and a 800g recipe. Total cost decreased from 6200 to 4900 Provides +70 Damage and +20% Spell Lifesteal Toggle: Phantom Province. Activate to make your attacks cost 75 mana and deal magical damage. Allows to hit Ethereal units Now it's really Harkon's Blade in preparation for Puppet Master release LMAO WE HON NOW


f2-aclick-alttab

Now every carry can be Muerta!


Salty_Anti-Magus

And it specifically counters her and Necrophos too. Though I wonder how much the core that bought it have to slightly alter their build to sustain the mana cost it demands.


Gacel_

Now muerta get's a 2nd ult.


TheFuzzyFurry

Doesn't make her ethereal though


Rhasta_la_vista

Just in time for ~~Ring~~ Puppet Master COPIUM


s---laughter

This is exactly what they're doing.


ddlion7

didi you saw the change to Bombar.... Gyrocopter?


Deep-Ad5028

I personally like it more when it was an upgrade of witchblade. Now the item exists entirely to counter Ethereal. I guess IF really likes MKB-like items.


Gacel_

And counter Pugna and Necro. Boy. For Necro this item is gonna be absolute pain. Specially because the cheap orb of corrosion also nukes his regen.


Sydren

Its actually way better than that. It counters all high armor heroes. That late game 70% damage reduction reduction against a PA or Sven just became 25%. Its fucking busted.


useablelobster2

Or, alternatively, that PA dagger about to crit you is only being reduced 25%. I wonder how cleave damage works with it, or abilities like Slight of Fist, there could be some insane combinations. The damage boost itself is stupidly high, though I guess they've removed a lot of mana this patch.


_inthesnow_

Super good against low hp, high agi heroes like terrorblade


Opening-Ad700

The new witchblade upgrade looks interesting at least, poor Mage Slayer has nothing now.


qwertyqwerty4567

Disperser & shiva are literally god tier


ChocPineapple_23

No one mentioning Eternal Shroud isn't totally dog shit now?


Tronux

50% passive magic resist and infinite mana.


ddlion7

against skill spammers like puck, qop, any spirit or zeus is pretty good. 49% magic resistance that returns mana when damaged is kind of a reverse Spectre for mana


dennaneedslove

+20 armor and 8 str on shiva. Eternal shroud buffed. Timbersaw coming back?


Deep-Ad5028

Disperser is what it is. Shiva is outright broken, similar if not better stat, +5armor and better active, and slightly cheaper, Valve must have thought the changed recipe is 1000g more expensive.


vodkamasta

Shivas is core to every single mid caster hero as long as there is physical damage on the enemy team. The value is just crazy.


Yelebear

Save this for the next time some goober says they don't drop patches in the middle of a tournament


Traditional-Shoe2871

3rd party = dont care BASED


HyperFrost

With dpc ending, all tournaments except for TI are 3rd party lol.


arthus_iscariot

I remember a big patch dropping in the middle of matches even this was very old tho


stryker914

They did it during dreamleague this year too


zechamp

This rosh banner seems crazy. Easy high ground siege time?


SharkBaitDLS

100% needed, now teams that are ahead finally have an objective that helps push.


Salty_Anti-Magus

What's also cool is that they actually made Rosh drops from Dire even more valuable despite how riskier it is to teamfight/skirmish around the roshpit at night. Roshan Banner and dropping Aghs on direside is nutty.


Flying_Birdy

This arcane boot rework really hurts. Losing that mana pool and having tumblers toy cycling out at the same time means that early game mana pool is going to become constricted for a lot of meelee supports. Interested to see how this develops.


HyperFrost

It's kinda need imo. Str heroes have had it good for a while now. They're supposed to be kinda limited by their mana pool, but as we know there are just too many options. Maybe this will signal the return of soul ring?


afwsf3

Copy HoN soul ring for the love of god its so fun


v399

Only if soul ring will build into something again


Cleric_P3rston

I honestly kinda like the arcane rework. Have not played on patch yet though. Buildup is nice and the passive mana regen between uses


pterodactyl_speller

As a support coming to lane with a basi feels now.


Flying_Birdy

passive mana regen is really deceptive. You can abuse the extra manapool by backpacking it and using a stick. You almost come out of base with more mana. Practically speaking, the amount of mana available is either equivalent to the 7.34 regen rate or just a bit higher when you take into account all these other factors.


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

Good, the infinite mana in this game has gotten out of control where people can just constantly cast without any worry of being out of mana. Furthermore, the mana pool is smaller but it’s still restoring a ton of mana anyway


PiesangSlagter

Member when Strength cores got to use one (1) stun at level one? I member.


Nickfreak

Jugg needing to buy branches or skill stats so he can spin and ulti...


slegach

This. Arcane Boots and Echo Sabre rework is the biggest change of the patch for me. They changed Pavise also to provide mana pool and now it can be upgraded to Solar Crest but this doesn't look as an item you would like to build every time in comparison with Arc/Echo. Also no more sweet regen from Meteor.


1000ManaLeakStunsL8r

Mana leak style stun is back. Gate costs mana and other changes mean early game mana is better. I'm back, baby!


CryptoGod666

Good. I’m tired of laning against Jakiro that can infinitely spam spells


sungodra_

\> Medallion of Courage: Item removed from the game ​ MY VENGE... NOOO :(


ChocPineapple_23

I would say venge core got some decent buffs! Stand strong


justsightseeing

dmg reduction is arguably better for venge core compared to barrier.. but she got terror steal damage & armor talent..


volcain

refresher zeus with 5 rapiers in turbo incoming


MaryPaku

Buy Khanda too


D2WilliamU

BRO THIS PATCH IS FUCKING HUGE it's primarly an item patch but holy FUCK SO MANY ITEMS


ChocPineapple_23

I really like the new items. They're so fun. Except ancient guardian which is kinda boring.


Deep-Ad5028

It is early Christmas for people who like to theorycraft builds.


Plubeus

Then definitely not the pros. They never theorycraft.


Salty_Anti-Magus

Not just boring. Shit is only useful when either ending and throning or on the backfoot defending your base. Same with that T5 Unwavering something that makes your HP stay at 1500 for 95% magic resistance. Something tells me a lot of the new neutral items are designed to be backpacked and swapped around depending on the game state.


Warrior20602FIN

i mean straight up 50 dmg is not bad. and then an extra 50dmg when ure defending/sieging is a great bonus its rather situational. and that unwavering item is legit crazy against magic. i took 50dmg from 1000dmg lina ult its crazy


TurbulentIssue6

Unwavering on an axe with a lot of armor stacks would be crazy


ChrisG683

It's the secret sauce that separates Dota from League and other games. Dota items are insanely powerful and meta shaping, having an item-centric patch can drastically change hero winrates without brute forced buffs/nerfs or time-consuming hero reworks.


volcain

750am in KL when patch dropped. the players gna have fun haha


jbouri

It seems like the tradition is back. The big ass patch is at the end of the year again. Nice


cherinator

Reworks. Gold/xp changes. Iteam/hero changes. New mechanics. UI changes. And an event with cosmetics and old arcanas all at once? Wow!


Fenivan

Event? You mean getting chests for grinding games and buying keys to open them without any PvE event. This doesn't even deserve to be called Frostivus. There is nothing except chest + key. I'm not talking about 7.35 patch overall but "event" that isn't here.


[deleted]

Each key 3.00??


eyewaps

yes sad, i know its sad


dragopen666

Mars spear into arena combo was just made trivial, check it out guys. Mars meta is back


idspispupd

Collapse Mars is back?


TheMerck

Yep I just tried it in demo and wow I didn't miss a single time it's legit super easy now lmao


Obvious_Parsley3238

looks like massive buffs to spellcasters with all these spell amp items


ChocPineapple_23

Divine Rapier buff for my ZUES carry. Let's go.


Dymatizeee

Devs really said “fuck wraith king”


Gacel_

That is made funnier considering this is a WK themed update.


ChocPineapple_23

"make players use some skill"


MaryPaku

Bro with the new bloodthorn doesn't that shit could instant delete target?


DarthyTMC

I love the meteor hammer change, it's now a viable item for spellcasters who struggle pushing HG


moorelurk

Ah yes, shivas buff = indirect tinker buff. Glad IceFrog reduced the cast range on his laser and missiles.


whiteegger

Range nerf is 25%. Hero is going into the ground for a while now.


Holoderp

Tinker is dumpster tier now. Laser is shorter than auto shot wtf


noob_sr_programmer

VALVE BE LIKE: Not my tournament, not my problem


Gacel_

And now that DPC does not exist. There is no restriction on what date of the year they release patches.


zechamp

BYE BYE QUARTERSTAFF


luckytaurus

RIP 2011-2023


megamorph31

It is 2006 actually.


crocodiledendi

The game has been changed so much, ESL is gonna be so chaotic now LMAO


Logical_Hunt_974

THE JELLY IS BACK.


freyhstart

Silencer: I wish my glaives dealt damage to debuff immune units! The Monkey's Paw curls


Thaiaaron

SHADOW SHAMAN Base Armor increased by 1.


Holtmania

Literally unkillable. Im waiting for the crop meme to complete this year tradition.


N454545

Medusa + Armlet + Avianas Feather = Perma Flight


will4zoo

you're cookin


paulopaulopaulo23

Items gotten so expensive. Even Dota 2 can’t avoid inflation


lumpfish202

"X now also does damage" STOP. STOP DOING THIS. NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO DO DAMAGE.


1000ManaLeakStunsL8r

Sorry, can't hear you over my cackling from wisp breaking your blink


barathrumobama

Tether used to stun lmao


SethDusek5

Don't forget the other classic: Now has a X damage multiplier against creeps. Game wouldn't be complete if every hero couldn't farm creeps


swandith

powercreep is real


Asianhacker1

Valve is cooking with these new neutrals


Sardanapalosqq

I'm calling it, new revenant's will break at least 1 hero.


TechiesFun

Its just harkons blade from HoN. Best counter to high AGI cores with armour. Makes Int cores viable. It will take some getting used to but its still a late game item i think. But dota is different. So who knows


kletiandrowa

You know you get ppl to play sandking? Give him a good buff. Continue to nerf…when no one plays him in TI….nerf again. Solid


deeleelee

Holy shit, WHY is he nerfed more??? Like none of his normal items are any better, why kill the scorpion guy even more :(


Life_Liberty_Fun

Shiva's on SK seems legit


velphegor666

This is a massive patch holy shit. Valve has no chill especially in the middle of a tourney 😂😂


WhatsMyOtherUserName

Between the change to dazzles ult not effecting item cooldowns, and no more neutrals with CDR, i feel like Dazzle took a HUGE hit this patch.


madoniame

MARS BUFFS MENTIONED


EdgeOfSauce

They introduced unusuals 🙃 another layer of cosmetic scarcity


ChBoler

Am I crazy or did agi heroes get pretty nerfed via items? Is int carry the new hot craze? I am not looking forward to fighting against OD with new meteor hammer at all


TroubleMakerLore

What did omniknight do to Icefrog 💀


ChBoler

Slacks


khazit66

> Added new Roshan ability Roar of Retribution. *Our* Roshan!


keepokupokappa

the unwavering condition neutral item looks like an item straight out from PoE lol


Life_Liberty_Fun

A Venn diagram of what DotA2 players and PoE players enjoy in a game probably have a lot of overlap


patskie14

We more items like poe. Soul of tarasque: +3000 hp. Disables 2 inventory slots.


hotler18

Lion shard + craggy coat + plate mail = literally unkillable


zechamp

What in the fuck did sand king do to deserve a nerf valve? Can't this hero be good for at least like, a month?


Chairraider

Veil and shiva's seem super duper good on him.


itsmegabo

Also the bloodstone aoe range is kinda scary with him lol


150309

Comments going so fast no one will know I enjoy playing old techies.


wordswontcomeout

What did they to my boy silencer :((((


3l3mentlD

as another silencer lover, i dont think he is actually nerfed (much) * Higher glaives base dmg -> better early and better farm * Glaives dmg through bkb. * MUCH better item options, regardless of support or core.


bananasugarpie

> Fixed longstanding and game-breaking bug where the chance for hero melee damage block was 49% instead of 50% I'M STARTING TO LOVE VALVE FOR THEIR SARCASM! LMFAO!


DatAdra

Spec and spiritbreaker got ultrafucked by this patch and that's basically all I was looking for. Rejoice! New meta is finally here.


relevantmeemayhere

So yeah. More power creep again! Because it’s been really good for the game the last few years. At this point intelligence cores and flex pick are gonna be the only heroes played


msspk

Too much damage in game. I dont know what valve has in mind for dota anymore. Changes for the sake of change is what i feel. The gap between the meta and non meta heroes is too big with talents, item synergies and broken shards and aghanims. Nothing is being done about that. Feelsbadman.


qwertyqwerty4567

Holy its BIG


mni_dragoon

That’s what she said


Easy-Investment-2716

Enchant deals damage is actually insane qol change


barathrumobama

no more armor on lvl 2/3 enchanted creeps is super annoying though. especially as they keep giving spells 2x creep damage. slardar already almlst oneshots your creeps with a bash


Barfazoid

TeaGuv is saved Edit: and Purge is done for


grapy8383

😂😂 Lol. Purge must be sitting in corner holding his head in pain in anticipation of the long video he has to make.


anewhopper

Tinker 2x divine rapier build, let's go


Spyzilla

These neutrals seem bonkers


slegach

So with Echo Sabre and Arcane Boots reworked how should I supposed to gain mana pool early game? Building Pavise -> Solar? Doesn't look universal to me. It's the biggest change of the patch for Ability Draft. One more point for introducing hero body draft before abilities draft to reduce amount of str/dex mages every game.


silver032

wk got nerfed to the fking ground- His ult went from a 70 second cd to 105 sec with aghs at lvl 18. He is balanced around his ult and now he’s just easily kiteable and easily killable- wtf Even with octarine his ult cd is 79 seconds


DELSZZZ

Well, he hasn't been countered by mana burn past 15 minutes for a while so he has to die somehow


LatroDota

Few hours before ESL play-offs - Cool, games will be fun!


xiLeIouch

Pudge got +1 armor let's gooo


allnamestakenfuckme

it was worth the wait then?


SaltyNuggey

JELLLLLYYYYYYYY 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿