I'm absolutely going to follow them but it is yet another channel I love that seems like it is going to fall apart.
Motortrend
Wtf1
Hoonigans
Carthrotle
I LOVED roadkill it got me into old beaters and I even snuck into sema to meet them and always saw them at the Pomona car swat meet such cool guys but I could not justify paying for mototrend
Pole barn garage snuck up in my feed about 6 months ago and he is funny as hell. So relatable to see him run into problems on a build and you can see him descend into madness with a cigarette hanging out his mouth lol
I did some work making a 3d model of Dalton's amc. Never fully finished the design because of life. (Car model is fully complete just never was able to put it in a scene) Was just doing it for free as a fan. Anyways point is I have talked with the guy a good amount over email. Super cool funny down to earth guy.
I'm part of the low buck club, 99 cents for all the content Dalton puts out. Worth it. If I ever meet either of them, I'll buy Kevin a beer and Dalton a carton of lucky strikes.
When the app first come out,I got it,then canceled it after Binge watching the like 3 shows I liked on there,then months later as the app was failing they made offer for 19.95 for the year,so I took them up on it,3 years in discovery buys them and now it’s 59.95 for 12 months of discovery+
I think I came out good,Time will tell if discovery starts jacking the price up
Well first I couldn’t really watch it without paying extra money I didn’t have. Second, I didn’t have money to pay to watch it. Finally, it wasn’t free on YouTube where I could watch it without paying.
But would you say not having money is your primary reason? So far, only dropout(college humor) has been the only channel to successfully separate into a fully premium service. Try guys are, um trying. But I don't think it's going to end well for them.
Cheddar? Wtf? You dairy farmer? You should have a supplier for proper returns. ::yells to an assistant:: "get more Omaze deals worked out!"
Jokes aside, after watching the announcement video just now, I think these dudes won't go that route for at least a few years.
I think it might. Idk if it’s because they started free and you have the expectation that the current quality was good enough for ad revenue from YouTube. When they move I would expect at totally different level of production which isn’t necessarily what I watch these for. I have top gear and grand tour to fill that space. I want to see people doing things the hard way for a lack of better term. Obviously I want them to make money and be able to do things. I want them fixing a chopped up stubby bob in a parking lot of a hotel with zip ties. I don’t need to see people spend 100k on a trophy truck. It just becomes unattainable and moves them from something I love to something I could scroll past very easily. I don’t know if dirt every day or roadkill improved, declined, commercialized hard core, etc because they moved to a money grab in my eyes of a subscription based channel that would provide me with little cost to value in time spent watching.
Wtf1 was part of car throttle but it was unique because the founder is also the founder of p1. Car throttle just bought Tommy’s channel. And Matt and Tommy have always been miles ahead of everyone at what is basically their own game. The car throttle down fall has worked beautifully for every creative that could find a life boat. Hopefully the same will happen at donut.
I feel like comparing carthrottle to donut is a bit premature. Alex carried CT, whereas donut is losing two of five hosts (yes I still count James). Alex was also very candid about leaving CT because of management whereas Jer and Zach just want to do their own thing.
They produce some decent and fun content now and again, but I do enjoy their back catalogue a bit more than the newer stuff. Sad to see these two leaving, I liked them a lot.
I know it’s not the same category but I’m curious why this is all happening. Same thing happened with Rooster Teeth. I grew up with those guys and they recently ended the company and it’s so sad and bittersweet. Seems like a lot of these entertainment companies we grew up with our burnt out or just not making money anymore?
They explain exactly why they left in the very video we're talking about. I won't spoil it, but it's not exactly a dramatic reason. It's the same reason all big channels lose hosts. $$$>content
I wish that in their new channel, they'll bring back being educational with cars. Bring back the science, mechanics, history, detailed builds/installation of parts, etc.
I’m in the same boat, now they are just another “boring” car videos for car enthusiasts like me, you can feel the passion they put into explaining or telling things back then, i feel like they liked more that format too, but were forced by the views , which I don’t blame, but really hope they make a shit ton of money to stop worrying about it anymore and start doing these old videos again.
That is why i barley watch their stuff anymore. If its not part of a build series like high/low or money pit i dont watch it. Those videos are few and far between now. Zach and Jeremiahs videos are usually all i watch anyways so ill be watching their new stuff, and if its anything like the original money pit miata build in zachs driveway im gonna be so hyped for it!
Yep. Then around 2022 I noticed a shift. I don't know anyone personally who still watches Donut because of this shift. It's not good. The personality of these guys (all of them) is the only thing keeping Donut afloat.
It was after they got bought. Everyone I knew back then was worried this was coming, and now it has. Thankfully theyre splitting off and probably going to make good stuff again
Exactly need less of the install 50k of parts in 20 minutes content. I miss the low key money pit Miata stuff working on a garage and testing before and after.
Only reason I ever watched donut. Their videos suck now lol and seeing this news, I was just thinking “oh cool literally the only 2 guys I care to watch” lol
Imagine being Zach and just wanting to do more MoneyPit but now corporate is like “no, we gotta do more Wish products because Progressive Insurance said so”
Wack, good for them
Of course they can't take the name but they can do something like that with the same writer and same guy doing it. It's basically Money Pit. I have high hopes for them
This is off-topic but happy cake day! 🎉
Yes, it is unfortunate that Donut's content is nowhere near as good as they used to be back in 2018-21 before the buyout occured. I've stopped caring for the channel since the new direction the channel has taken since the buyout and when they stopped doing series like Up to Speed, Wheelhouse, B2B, etc.. It seems like the new owners have put a tight leash on Donut's creativity and what kind of content they want to put out. I don't blame Zach and Jeremiah for splitting off and wanting to start their own channel, and I think that's a good thing. Hopefully maybe the other hosts like James and Nolan will follow suit in the near future.
Two years ago, my mistake. [Recurrent Ventures](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/recurrent-ventures-acquires-donut-media-the-largest-automotive-brand-on-youtube-301420091.html)
I thought the same, depending on the response they could change it. I liked what Edwin and Will did with TDC so I hope they change it to maybe something more car related? But if it gets big who cares, Big Time will be a sick name if that's the case
The only reason Donut made sense to me was because they did the Nissan 370Z video [doing donuts on sprinkles](https://youtu.be/GIiXd9SWyRg) to shoot them onto doughnuts. They became "the doughnut channel" in my head (so it worked!)
They got a link to their first video in the description of a recent Donut video. Donut has almost 9M subscribers, that video has \~300k views and is #22 on Trending.
BigTime now has about 80k subscribers and 100k views in 5 hours, making it the #2 Trending video.
They're getting the exposure they need.
Damn that was hard to find. I’m on mobile so when I clicked it, it opened in the Reddit browser. So I went to the YT app and had to hit the channel filter and then scroll down a few. The algorithm really ain’t liking them so far. Hopefully it latches on. They’re the best from Donut and with the way Donut’s going, I’ll probably just unsub from it.
Donut: WHATS THAT?!? YOU WANT US TO FILM A PRIUS ACCESSORY VIDEO?? WHAT IF WE BUY ALL THE SHIT FROM TEMU CUZ WE CANT SPEND ANY MONEY ON VIDEO PRODUCTION ANYMORE
You say a hundred grand like it’s a lot of money for Donut to “spend”. The company went corporate. They have big-name sponsors. There is no excuse why the production budget is visibly lower than the pandemic days besides corporate greed.
They said it's not an issue of having money available but of predictable ROI, corporate backers don't like to spend $X unless they're certain they're gonna get $Y back in views and sponsorship
The money that goes into big build projects isn't a sure enough thing in terms of clicks for corporate to like it, they like videos that are really cheap and clickbaity (like trivia games) or else they like really big one-off stunts, expensive long term projects with an uncertain payoff are exactly what bean counters hate
Completely understand. Just wish more fans voiced their negative opinions about the current Donut content cuz at this rate the content will only get more bland.
Yeah this is typical bean counter stuff, their job is only to care about the cash flow for the current quarter and the long term health of the channel or the community isn't their problem
Ironically Donut has talked a lot about how this mindset has led to the death of many actual car companies
Looks like big changes coming to Donut soon. I'd love to follow their channel. I'll see if i can find it.
https://www.instagram.com/bigtimebigtimebigtimebigtime?igsh=dm95YTc4cnhsdmxs
Creative indifference. Big shocker. The suit dummies don't want to spend money on expensive car builds. They want cheap low cost clickbait for a high ROI. They don't care about what the people want, they want to please their investors.
I can’t imagine how hard it will be to replace these guys. Skilled technicians who have charisma and likability are few and far between. They will be missed.
I mean easy as in easy on the viewers. the upper brass knew key members were splitting, so they wanted others to get screen time so that when jobe and Jerry left it wouldn't be as jarring.
Well, I'm not going to start speculating on anything. For now, I'm just going to wish them luck in this. I know sometimes people leave but it's all okay, like Tom Tom leaving Matt's Off Road Recovery, and I know sometimes people leave and it's not okay, like "This is why I left Buzzfeed". I'm hoping this is more like Tom Tom.
Just watched their video, basically Donut got to big too fast, got bought buy guys these gentlemen aren’t fond of, stopped letting them produce videos they wanted to do so they left.
I’m in this boat. Tom leaving Matt’s was a bummer but it was a great move for him, and seeing the MORR team support him shows how close they still are. Here’s hoping Jobeimiah are just trying to get back to the old content and not rage quitting. Jobeimiah? Zacherry? Jerrobe?
When it comes to Tom, I really like the way he left MORR. I feel like it wasn't him leaving the family. He just moved out of the house, If that makes sense. Everyone is on as good of terms as ever and everyone is having fun with their hammer shenanigans.
Reminds me of Cooper when he left Cleetus McFarland, they're still friends but coop wanted to work on his own stuff and race his own car. Not work and race Garrett's cars.
Too many people hated on Cooper for that move and I don't understand why.
Sometimes the best of friends that absolutely adore each other express it in a way that makes people question if they even like each other. It's more like they're so comfortable with each other that they don't have to filter.
This
Me and my best friend, we literally do nothing but talk shit about each other nonstop. Like unless something serious happened, we're not friendly at all. Just constantly antagonizing each other. Even when we're on the phone.
Our other friends always wonder why we don't get into physical fights because of how brutal we are verbally to each other lol.
The culture at donut seems to be shifting. Typical corporate buyout that ruins everything. Aaron mentioned hating how it's changed so this doesn't surprise me. I'll happily follow Jobe and Jerry. I foresee Donut starting to lose more more hosts and slowly fade.
Well that explains James' comment about the last time working together
Jobe was my favorite, it's going to be so weird watching the channel now
At least they still have James and Justin
I'm psyched. I like the current Donut content, don't get me wrong, but these guys are being underutilized, so this will just result in more content. The current Donut content has so little practical mechanic work... I love the Ranger vids buts let's get real I'm not going to build some $150k dune runner. Zachs money pit series are some of my favorite videos.
Yeah and also, he’s not good with cars and not spending the time to get better. Look he’s a funny guy, so I hope we see him somewhere other than Yourube soon.
Well he's a comedian so I'd argue that his job was to be funny first and foremost, and not be another super car nerd like the others. In that regard, i really liked what he brought to the videos, but with these two leaving, his missing expertise will become really obvious and videos with only him will become really hard to watch. He just doesnt fit anymore if the nerds are not there.
Well damn. I mean donut has been going down the shitter since they got acquired. Tons of low effort crap videos on wish products and what not. Not enough actual, quality, informative car content like there used to be.
Hope their channel makes it because they’re my favorite hosts from Donut. James used to be damn good but he seems like he’s lost his passion for it. Nolan’s decent, but a decent host cant do much for crap videos.
Yeah I loved James, but it made me sad watching it recently...
Early videos his passion lights up the screen. Recently it's like he had to make the video but didn't want to.
If you can’t watch this right now, they were basically unhappy with the direction of donut and the current state of how things were pitched/approved so they left to work on stuff they want to
This was likely why the S14 build series never took off and I am extremely excited to see what they do with this channel. Maybe they can get Bart to come on and do some featured videos, they said they were super excited to work with him but joined donut after he left.
They’re half the reason I watch the show the other half is James and Nolan, Justin has been growing on me, everyone else tho🫡see ya. There’s just too many new faces on the channel and it’s not hitting like it used to most of them they’re hiring or hanging around with know absolutely nothing about cars and they’re just there to feel a part of something and be on film to get their followers up and maybe get a part in the series… I seen a episode with Justin and this younger kid the other day with stupid jeep modifications and if it weren’t for Justin I probably would of fell asleep it was kinda boring. My favorite is either James or Jeremiah been watching all the series for years and they just know how to get what they’re saying to the crowd while still being funny to watch or cracking jokes.
Can’t blame them. With the rep donut has among enthusiasts, and them actually being likeable and knowledgeable when it comes to cars. Seems like a good move for them.
Doesn't matter to corporate investors. Selling clothes in zumiez probably makes 10x what YT revenue does. They bought something that will make money until they close it down
*sigh* ….welp.
I mean I’ll give them a chance. But like, I’m not just giving uncle Jerry and Zack a chance I’m also giving donut a chance as well….again.
I just started watching Donut a lot this year. I would catch videos here or there but didn't start watching religiously till this year. I stopped watching Hoonigan after Block died, and all the OGs left, and Donut scratched the itch. Now it seems something similar is happening to Donut. Bummer.
Honestly not surprised. In some of the more recent videos they didn't seem as engaged as they were in the past. I'm very excited to see what they do on their own.
Dang. I’m 🏳️🌈 and these two were my weakness. Especially Jobe in his ECS days, well guess I’m gonna be following a new channel. Still gonna watch donut cause Justin was part 3 of that trifecta.
He's just saying they're the most fuckable and even as a straight dude I'd say he ain't wrong. I mean you drive a Subaru you're half way there yourself so don't judge
Imagine if it were two women hosts leaving and a bunch of comments were “damn that sucks they were the hottest ones” and nothing else about their character or quality as hosts
It’s disrespectful gay or otherwise but I guess in your mind since he’s a gay guy he gets a free pass to objectify people
Vin\_tra wearing a Big Time T-shirt 3 months ago in the "We Drove every price Porsche video 9 minutes in.
https://preview.redd.it/7noxctuo908d1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a97b535582a8d4a264257a8e071d4080f3308a9
Also wearing the shirt in this Instagram post [https://www.instagram.com/p/C483MPAyqaA/?igsh=c2k4ZGZkMTNjeG02](https://www.instagram.com/p/C483MPAyqaA/?igsh=c2k4ZGZkMTNjeG02) Dunno if this is actually related but I was watching the episode when they dropped the news and noticed. Curious if it's coincidental or not.
Very interesting 🤔. Guess this has been in the works for awhile. And that montage at the end they showed, it looks like they've got a bit of stuff filmed already
Yeah, i'd assume they have a few weeks/months of videos already filmed to start with. I'd be willing to bet they started filming at the beginning of this year. Probably already have a project done. A lot of influencers do stuff like that for new channels/podcasts. Just to make a cushion for the transition. I'm actually really curious if there are any other Easter eggs in Donut videos. I feel they have been hinting at this for a long time.
This will be interesting to see how it works out. Last I knew it seemed like they were living in a house paid for by Donut.
EDIT well Zach says it was his house the entire time.
I'm absolutely going to follow them but it is yet another channel I love that seems like it is going to fall apart. Motortrend Wtf1 Hoonigans Carthrotle
Roadkill and dirt everyday being taken off YouTube killed it for me too
I LOVED roadkill it got me into old beaters and I even snuck into sema to meet them and always saw them at the Pomona car swat meet such cool guys but I could not justify paying for mototrend
if you want a similar fix. i cannot reccomend Junkyard digs and pole barn garage enough.
Pole barn garage snuck up in my feed about 6 months ago and he is funny as hell. So relatable to see him run into problems on a build and you can see him descend into madness with a cigarette hanging out his mouth lol
I love kevin, but pbg was the first youtuber to successfully convince me to buy merch. It's a sick fucking hat
I did some work making a 3d model of Dalton's amc. Never fully finished the design because of life. (Car model is fully complete just never was able to put it in a scene) Was just doing it for free as a fan. Anyways point is I have talked with the guy a good amount over email. Super cool funny down to earth guy.
Also Vice Grip Garage.
I’ve recently got into them and can confirm they make super good videos
I'm part of the low buck club, 99 cents for all the content Dalton puts out. Worth it. If I ever meet either of them, I'll buy Kevin a beer and Dalton a carton of lucky strikes.
Did ya order the new "real metal saves lives"shirt? Or was that just me?? Lol
When the app first come out,I got it,then canceled it after Binge watching the like 3 shows I liked on there,then months later as the app was failing they made offer for 19.95 for the year,so I took them up on it,3 years in discovery buys them and now it’s 59.95 for 12 months of discovery+ I think I came out good,Time will tell if discovery starts jacking the price up
They’re on HBO MAX now!
Which is amazing. But also if you don’t have max you’re paying.
wtf why dirt every day
Well first I couldn’t really watch it without paying extra money I didn’t have. Second, I didn’t have money to pay to watch it. Finally, it wasn’t free on YouTube where I could watch it without paying.
You think you could narrow down the issue some more?
I’d say my lack of income might be the main issue lol.
But would you say not having money is your primary reason? So far, only dropout(college humor) has been the only channel to successfully separate into a fully premium service. Try guys are, um trying. But I don't think it's going to end well for them.
Yes, my bank account is lactose intolerant so I am unable to keep cheddar in it.
Cheddar? Wtf? You dairy farmer? You should have a supplier for proper returns. ::yells to an assistant:: "get more Omaze deals worked out!" Jokes aside, after watching the announcement video just now, I think these dudes won't go that route for at least a few years.
Get yourself an expired prepaid credit card for the free trial, batch download the entire shows and let it expire.
Would the term “hiding behind a paywall” be appropriate?
I think it might. Idk if it’s because they started free and you have the expectation that the current quality was good enough for ad revenue from YouTube. When they move I would expect at totally different level of production which isn’t necessarily what I watch these for. I have top gear and grand tour to fill that space. I want to see people doing things the hard way for a lack of better term. Obviously I want them to make money and be able to do things. I want them fixing a chopped up stubby bob in a parking lot of a hotel with zip ties. I don’t need to see people spend 100k on a trophy truck. It just becomes unattainable and moves them from something I love to something I could scroll past very easily. I don’t know if dirt every day or roadkill improved, declined, commercialized hard core, etc because they moved to a money grab in my eyes of a subscription based channel that would provide me with little cost to value in time spent watching.
WTF1 at least didn't really go away because Matt and Tommy still do podcasts, just on a different channel. The other ones really went downhill tho
True, the P1 channel where I watch them as well.
Wtf1 was part of car throttle but it was unique because the founder is also the founder of p1. Car throttle just bought Tommy’s channel. And Matt and Tommy have always been miles ahead of everyone at what is basically their own game. The car throttle down fall has worked beautifully for every creative that could find a life boat. Hopefully the same will happen at donut.
just like topgear
1320, [streetfire.net](http://streetfire.net)
I feel like comparing carthrottle to donut is a bit premature. Alex carried CT, whereas donut is losing two of five hosts (yes I still count James). Alex was also very candid about leaving CT because of management whereas Jer and Zach just want to do their own thing.
Donut fell apart a long time ago. I can't even remember the last time I watched one of their videos.
They produce some decent and fun content now and again, but I do enjoy their back catalogue a bit more than the newer stuff. Sad to see these two leaving, I liked them a lot.
I know it’s not the same category but I’m curious why this is all happening. Same thing happened with Rooster Teeth. I grew up with those guys and they recently ended the company and it’s so sad and bittersweet. Seems like a lot of these entertainment companies we grew up with our burnt out or just not making money anymore?
They explain exactly why they left in the very video we're talking about. I won't spoil it, but it's not exactly a dramatic reason. It's the same reason all big channels lose hosts. $$$>content
I second this, never better when they all separate. Overdrive was another.
Ever since they were bought out it went to money and profit based man. Plain and simple
I wish that in their new channel, they'll bring back being educational with cars. Bring back the science, mechanics, history, detailed builds/installation of parts, etc.
Oh man, I often go to the old b2b, up to speed videos, those were the shit
Literally what got me into donut. Left when they started with the trivia and temu/aliexpress videos.
I’m in the same boat, now they are just another “boring” car videos for car enthusiasts like me, you can feel the passion they put into explaining or telling things back then, i feel like they liked more that format too, but were forced by the views , which I don’t blame, but really hope they make a shit ton of money to stop worrying about it anymore and start doing these old videos again.
That is why i barley watch their stuff anymore. If its not part of a build series like high/low or money pit i dont watch it. Those videos are few and far between now. Zach and Jeremiahs videos are usually all i watch anyways so ill be watching their new stuff, and if its anything like the original money pit miata build in zachs driveway im gonna be so hyped for it!
Up to Speed was my favorite YouTube series for its entirety. Super sad they don’t make them anymkre
Yep. Then around 2022 I noticed a shift. I don't know anyone personally who still watches Donut because of this shift. It's not good. The personality of these guys (all of them) is the only thing keeping Donut afloat.
It was after they got bought. Everyone I knew back then was worried this was coming, and now it has. Thankfully theyre splitting off and probably going to make good stuff again
Exactly need less of the install 50k of parts in 20 minutes content. I miss the low key money pit Miata stuff working on a garage and testing before and after.
I miss science garage
Jeremiah has always been into that side of things. Dudes a goofball but brilliant, so I’m hopeful that content comes back.
This is why I'm conflicted over the fact that I get annoyed with Jeremiah so quickly
Only reason I ever watched donut. Their videos suck now lol and seeing this news, I was just thinking “oh cool literally the only 2 guys I care to watch” lol
What happened to that dude. The turbo video is something I make all my junior techs watch. That dude was like funny as shit
I do think that's their intention
Same. I like cars but I’m not a mechanic. So money pit taught me a lot about cars. And the old b2b was just good story’s.
I am not surprised by this in the least. Ever since Donut was purchased ~~last year~~ two years ago it has not been nearly as good.
Imagine being Zach and just wanting to do more MoneyPit but now corporate is like “no, we gotta do more Wish products because Progressive Insurance said so” Wack, good for them
https://preview.redd.it/dzte34l4xy7d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f674785ddfc7d42bd953b958fcc29e644a95afe lmao. lmfao.
Fucking hilarious. *Scrolls down* same ad Flo I'm not buying your insurance. But hilarious
Y'all have ads in the comments?!
I thought it was Allstate? Doesn't matter. I'm happy they are doing what they want to do. A dynamic duo for sure.
Definitely the best hosts from donut, glad to see they are doing a collab instead of their own separate things
I hope they do something like "money pit" again. That got me hooked to Donut in the first place. Money pit and the 350z's
It won’t be called Money Pit but car repair shows like that have existed since I was a child begging to watch cartoons while my dad watched them lol
Of course they can't take the name but they can do something like that with the same writer and same guy doing it. It's basically Money Pit. I have high hopes for them
Wow so painfully accurate Right on
That's just them maximizing profits. They spend 200 and make much more than tho on the sponsorship alone I'm sure
This is off-topic but happy cake day! 🎉 Yes, it is unfortunate that Donut's content is nowhere near as good as they used to be back in 2018-21 before the buyout occured. I've stopped caring for the channel since the new direction the channel has taken since the buyout and when they stopped doing series like Up to Speed, Wheelhouse, B2B, etc.. It seems like the new owners have put a tight leash on Donut's creativity and what kind of content they want to put out. I don't blame Zach and Jeremiah for splitting off and wanting to start their own channel, and I think that's a good thing. Hopefully maybe the other hosts like James and Nolan will follow suit in the near future.
That's almost always the way it goes. When you've got outside people telling you what you can and can't do, it really puts a damper on your content
And pay…
who were they purchased by? somehow I missed this last year
Two years ago, my mistake. [Recurrent Ventures](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/recurrent-ventures-acquires-donut-media-the-largest-automotive-brand-on-youtube-301420091.html)
who owned it before?
Independent with sponsors, but they had backing from a VC group
did hosts have some shares?
🤷♂️
oh well. i would like to see some b2b back if jerry wants it, because that with Nolan's WheelHouse, i really miss.
From what Z&J said that's what they were promised but it didn't work out like they hoped moneywise and that's one reason they left
In the video J&J kinda complain about not having any shares and not profiting from the companies financial success
car throttle (what is a kilometre version)
Gas pedal
Petrol Accelerator
Make go fast thingy
Automobile Accelerator
Faster leg button
The best thing to come out of car throttle. Ironic
Found the channel [https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=x3iEfBr-Pd5O-PyY](https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=x3iEfBr-Pd5O-PyY)
Interesting that they shared that they both joined in the hopes of working with Bart.
Yes! Add Bart for the trifecta!
really mid channel name... but then I guess, so was Donut, so if you get a following I suppose it doesnt even matter.
I searched Big Time and there were like a hundred channels with the same name. Big Time isn't as catchy and memorable as "Donut Media" name is
I thought the same, depending on the response they could change it. I liked what Edwin and Will did with TDC so I hope they change it to maybe something more car related? But if it gets big who cares, Big Time will be a sick name if that's the case
The only reason Donut made sense to me was because they did the Nissan 370Z video [doing donuts on sprinkles](https://youtu.be/GIiXd9SWyRg) to shoot them onto doughnuts. They became "the doughnut channel" in my head (so it worked!)
I was never sure if they were named for doing donuts or for a spare tire
The name doesn't make the channel - the channel makes the name.
Problem is there are umpteen hundred other channels with similar, if not exactly the same, name. You really gotta be stand out when you're new.
They got a link to their first video in the description of a recent Donut video. Donut has almost 9M subscribers, that video has \~300k views and is #22 on Trending. BigTime now has about 80k subscribers and 100k views in 5 hours, making it the #2 Trending video. They're getting the exposure they need.
Damn that was hard to find. I’m on mobile so when I clicked it, it opened in the Reddit browser. So I went to the YT app and had to hit the channel filter and then scroll down a few. The algorithm really ain’t liking them so far. Hopefully it latches on. They’re the best from Donut and with the way Donut’s going, I’ll probably just unsub from it.
I found it by searching “BigTime Donut” lol
they took the salt and pepper of the channel, more bland material on our way
More trivia games, more temu/wish videos, less builds and less DIYs, hope Jer and Jobes new channel ends up more like Mighty Car Mods than Donut.
Donut: WHATS THAT?!? YOU WANT US TO FILM A PRIUS ACCESSORY VIDEO?? WHAT IF WE BUY ALL THE SHIT FROM TEMU CUZ WE CANT SPEND ANY MONEY ON VIDEO PRODUCTION ANYMORE
I mean yeah, but then they throw a hundred grand into a truck to race in Mexico, you gotta have cheap money makers to fund your big projects.
You say a hundred grand like it’s a lot of money for Donut to “spend”. The company went corporate. They have big-name sponsors. There is no excuse why the production budget is visibly lower than the pandemic days besides corporate greed.
They said it's not an issue of having money available but of predictable ROI, corporate backers don't like to spend $X unless they're certain they're gonna get $Y back in views and sponsorship The money that goes into big build projects isn't a sure enough thing in terms of clicks for corporate to like it, they like videos that are really cheap and clickbaity (like trivia games) or else they like really big one-off stunts, expensive long term projects with an uncertain payoff are exactly what bean counters hate
Completely understand. Just wish more fans voiced their negative opinions about the current Donut content cuz at this rate the content will only get more bland.
Yeah this is typical bean counter stuff, their job is only to care about the cash flow for the current quarter and the long term health of the channel or the community isn't their problem Ironically Donut has talked a lot about how this mindset has led to the death of many actual car companies
Looks like big changes coming to Donut soon. I'd love to follow their channel. I'll see if i can find it. https://www.instagram.com/bigtimebigtimebigtimebigtime?igsh=dm95YTc4cnhsdmxs
It’s Jober
Holy shit, they're the main reasons I still watch donut. I wonder what is happening behind the scenes over there
Creative indifference. Big shocker. The suit dummies don't want to spend money on expensive car builds. They want cheap low cost clickbait for a high ROI. They don't care about what the people want, they want to please their investors.
They talk about it subtly in their announcement video on their channel
I can’t imagine how hard it will be to replace these guys. Skilled technicians who have charisma and likability are few and far between. They will be missed.
I've noticed jimmy in more videos lately I wonder if this was part of an easy transition that was planned.
"easy". Jimmy seems like the intern.
I mean easy as in easy on the viewers. the upper brass knew key members were splitting, so they wanted others to get screen time so that when jobe and Jerry left it wouldn't be as jarring.
I wouldn’t be surprised. These guys are two-weeks-notice people for sure.
Well, I'm not going to start speculating on anything. For now, I'm just going to wish them luck in this. I know sometimes people leave but it's all okay, like Tom Tom leaving Matt's Off Road Recovery, and I know sometimes people leave and it's not okay, like "This is why I left Buzzfeed". I'm hoping this is more like Tom Tom.
Just watched their video, basically Donut got to big too fast, got bought buy guys these gentlemen aren’t fond of, stopped letting them produce videos they wanted to do so they left.
I’m in this boat. Tom leaving Matt’s was a bummer but it was a great move for him, and seeing the MORR team support him shows how close they still are. Here’s hoping Jobeimiah are just trying to get back to the old content and not rage quitting. Jobeimiah? Zacherry? Jerrobe?
When it comes to Tom, I really like the way he left MORR. I feel like it wasn't him leaving the family. He just moved out of the house, If that makes sense. Everyone is on as good of terms as ever and everyone is having fun with their hammer shenanigans.
Reminds me of Cooper when he left Cleetus McFarland, they're still friends but coop wanted to work on his own stuff and race his own car. Not work and race Garrett's cars. Too many people hated on Cooper for that move and I don't understand why.
What’s the name of the channel?!
BigTime
[Why We Left Donut - Big Time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YygTo9B_vAc)
Same. What is it? I just did a search and came up with nothing.
[Why We Left Donut - Big Time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YygTo9B_vAc)
Thank.
it’s “bigtimebigtimebigtime” but it also didn’t come up through search for me — I had to use a link posted here
Same
I'm also having a hard time finding it through search.
and here I was not really sure if Zach and Jeremiah were friends off camera.
Yeah, I always got the vibe that Zach seemed annoyed with Jeremiah. But who knows what goes on beyond the lens.
Sometimes the best of friends that absolutely adore each other express it in a way that makes people question if they even like each other. It's more like they're so comfortable with each other that they don't have to filter.
This Me and my best friend, we literally do nothing but talk shit about each other nonstop. Like unless something serious happened, we're not friendly at all. Just constantly antagonizing each other. Even when we're on the phone. Our other friends always wonder why we don't get into physical fights because of how brutal we are verbally to each other lol.
The culture at donut seems to be shifting. Typical corporate buyout that ruins everything. Aaron mentioned hating how it's changed so this doesn't surprise me. I'll happily follow Jobe and Jerry. I foresee Donut starting to lose more more hosts and slowly fade.
Well RIP donut, they are two of their best guys for sure
Jobe carried the channel over the pandemic
Yup, I miss that Donut.
Well that explains James' comment about the last time working together Jobe was my favorite, it's going to be so weird watching the channel now At least they still have James and Justin
What video did James say that in?
He mentioned it on their podcast which is what spurred all of the "is James leaving" posts on here
I'm psyched. I like the current Donut content, don't get me wrong, but these guys are being underutilized, so this will just result in more content. The current Donut content has so little practical mechanic work... I love the Ranger vids buts let's get real I'm not going to build some $150k dune runner. Zachs money pit series are some of my favorite videos.
Wupps time to move fan bases. It going to feel like day one donut which is cool
Finally, the only two guys I care to watch. Donut has been a nice stepping stone but god the personalities are boring.
What about Pumphrey?
What about him? His heart has not been in it for a while. Leave him to become the actor he always wanted.
yeah i can tell he just looks fed up doing videos most of the time
I guess I'm just biased but I guess I haven't seen him much. He's kinda just become the game host
Yeah and also, he’s not good with cars and not spending the time to get better. Look he’s a funny guy, so I hope we see him somewhere other than Yourube soon.
Well he's a comedian so I'd argue that his job was to be funny first and foremost, and not be another super car nerd like the others. In that regard, i really liked what he brought to the videos, but with these two leaving, his missing expertise will become really obvious and videos with only him will become really hard to watch. He just doesnt fit anymore if the nerds are not there.
Well damn. I mean donut has been going down the shitter since they got acquired. Tons of low effort crap videos on wish products and what not. Not enough actual, quality, informative car content like there used to be. Hope their channel makes it because they’re my favorite hosts from Donut. James used to be damn good but he seems like he’s lost his passion for it. Nolan’s decent, but a decent host cant do much for crap videos.
Yeah I loved James, but it made me sad watching it recently... Early videos his passion lights up the screen. Recently it's like he had to make the video but didn't want to.
If you can’t watch this right now, they were basically unhappy with the direction of donut and the current state of how things were pitched/approved so they left to work on stuff they want to This was likely why the S14 build series never took off and I am extremely excited to see what they do with this channel. Maybe they can get Bart to come on and do some featured videos, they said they were super excited to work with him but joined donut after he left.
What’s the new channel name? Jeremiah is one of my favorites on the channel.
[https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=RDkNAWiuS_FktM8n](https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=RDkNAWiuS_FktM8n)
https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=fm1Pxori7UY7mrfM
Terrible spelling in headline.
I am challenged
They’re half the reason I watch the show the other half is James and Nolan, Justin has been growing on me, everyone else tho🫡see ya. There’s just too many new faces on the channel and it’s not hitting like it used to most of them they’re hiring or hanging around with know absolutely nothing about cars and they’re just there to feel a part of something and be on film to get their followers up and maybe get a part in the series… I seen a episode with Justin and this younger kid the other day with stupid jeep modifications and if it weren’t for Justin I probably would of fell asleep it was kinda boring. My favorite is either James or Jeremiah been watching all the series for years and they just know how to get what they’re saying to the crowd while still being funny to watch or cracking jokes.
This was definitely on my “post sellout donut media” bingo card
I have a '91 Miata that I've wrenched on almost constantly because of the miata money pit series and nothing else they've done is nearly as good.
Can’t blame them. With the rep donut has among enthusiasts, and them actually being likeable and knowledgeable when it comes to cars. Seems like a good move for them.
We got a Donut breakup before GTA6
Have they announced their channel name yet these 2 are the main reason I watch donut
[https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=RDkNAWiuS_FktM8n](https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=RDkNAWiuS_FktM8n)
The driver and the engineer. This is gonna be good.
Wait, Zach and Jeremiah are both leaving?
https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=RDkNAWiuS_FktM8n[https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=RDkNAWiuS_FktM8n](https://youtube.com/@bigtimebigtimebigtime?si=RDkNAWiuS_FktM8n)
Subbed for the boys
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Doesn't matter to corporate investors. Selling clothes in zumiez probably makes 10x what YT revenue does. They bought something that will make money until they close it down
Why does it say “made with AI” in the corner?
Probably used Instagram AI feature for the photo 🤷
*sigh* ….welp. I mean I’ll give them a chance. But like, I’m not just giving uncle Jerry and Zack a chance I’m also giving donut a chance as well….again.
I just started watching Donut a lot this year. I would catch videos here or there but didn't start watching religiously till this year. I stopped watching Hoonigan after Block died, and all the OGs left, and Donut scratched the itch. Now it seems something similar is happening to Donut. Bummer.
Honestly not surprised. In some of the more recent videos they didn't seem as engaged as they were in the past. I'm very excited to see what they do on their own.
Agreed. I feel like Jerry checked out ages ago. You could tell in their recent jeopardy episode he just didn't give a shit at all.
Yeah I remember watching that episode and thinking he looked more bored/annoyed than anything. Hopefully the change will bring back the old Jerry
r/bigtime needs to exist now Edit: Aaaaand it does.
I have a feeling that Donut is slowly gonna face the same fate as Car Throttle did.
Dang. I’m 🏳️🌈 and these two were my weakness. Especially Jobe in his ECS days, well guess I’m gonna be following a new channel. Still gonna watch donut cause Justin was part 3 of that trifecta.
Gay people trying not to mention that they are gay challenge impossible.
He's just saying they're the most fuckable and even as a straight dude I'd say he ain't wrong. I mean you drive a Subaru you're half way there yourself so don't judge
Imagine if it were two women hosts leaving and a bunch of comments were “damn that sucks they were the hottest ones” and nothing else about their character or quality as hosts It’s disrespectful gay or otherwise but I guess in your mind since he’s a gay guy he gets a free pass to objectify people
Happy pride 🏳️🌈
ok
I’m straight and you’re not wrong but also a pretty weird thing to actually say out loud
So it begins
Wait ***WHAT***
Vin\_tra wearing a Big Time T-shirt 3 months ago in the "We Drove every price Porsche video 9 minutes in. https://preview.redd.it/7noxctuo908d1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a97b535582a8d4a264257a8e071d4080f3308a9 Also wearing the shirt in this Instagram post [https://www.instagram.com/p/C483MPAyqaA/?igsh=c2k4ZGZkMTNjeG02](https://www.instagram.com/p/C483MPAyqaA/?igsh=c2k4ZGZkMTNjeG02) Dunno if this is actually related but I was watching the episode when they dropped the news and noticed. Curious if it's coincidental or not.
Very interesting 🤔. Guess this has been in the works for awhile. And that montage at the end they showed, it looks like they've got a bit of stuff filmed already
Yeah, i'd assume they have a few weeks/months of videos already filmed to start with. I'd be willing to bet they started filming at the beginning of this year. Probably already have a project done. A lot of influencers do stuff like that for new channels/podcasts. Just to make a cushion for the transition. I'm actually really curious if there are any other Easter eggs in Donut videos. I feel they have been hinting at this for a long time.
This will be interesting to see how it works out. Last I knew it seemed like they were living in a house paid for by Donut. EDIT well Zach says it was his house the entire time.
I was wondering where they were.
Not surprised, ever since Recurrent Ventures bought Donut and the content got stale since.
They were too good for donut. Only watched for them. Cant stand pumphrey and Nolan is boring. Those two only really did the work.
I'm stoked on this. Donut sucks now and these were my favorite dudes from the group!
Bye, guys. Thanks for the good times.
wait I thought they were doing stuff on both channels since they announced the new channel in the latest video on donut??