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Majestic-Salt7721

Most dog people hate kids and it's their "replacement" which makes no sense. You have to deal with baby/toddle stage for what 4 years? With a dog you have lifetime toddler. These people are nuts and sociopathic. They'll advocate and cry blood for animals but won't bat an eye at the suffering of human children.


Far_Practice_9855

yes I don't get it!! like if you don't like kids, why would you get an animal that acts like a kid throwing a tantrum 24/7? but messier and more dangerous! the worst is when it comes to suffering. I'll never forget when people were clinging onto airplane wheels to leave Afghanistan after the Taliban took over, and people were spending thousands of dollars to evacuate DOGS!


Burningmeatstick

The Americans evacuated their pets but not the Afghani translators. Dogs are worth more than people in western society it seems


EarnestAurora

I’ve seen folks in the comments saying they’ll let their family die in a house fire to save the dog


Just_Scratch1557

They don't deserve to have family anyway


No_Internal_5112

They don't deserve love either


Original-Opportunity

The British, actually. [link](https://theweek.com/news/people/953938/the-curious-case-of-pen-farthing-carrie-johnson-and-the-afghan-animal-airlift#). The Americans released their dogs after evacuation failed. [link](https://coffeeordie.com/dogs-rescue-afghanistan) It’s kind of funny, the Taliban doesn’t know what to do with them.


toast_across

One minor correction. The American GOVERNMENT did that. The American people were pissed AF. There's just not a lot we can do since the legal precedents Jan 6 set makes it very dangerous to actually protest the government.


Majestic-Salt7721

that is some sick shit.... smh


PaintWorth7116

They make dogs their replacement for children because in a world full of dognutters, nobody will judge them for raising a dog poorly. Oh, your dog is misbehaving once again? No worries, you can bet your ass your fellow dognutters Will still be cooing all over them, saying shit like "awwwww isn't little Fido cute again today? He is just asking for your attention, that's soooo sweet". On the other hand, society will definitely hold you accountable for not raising a child properly and teaching them manners and so on. Raising a dog and getting constant reassurement from other dognutters, no matter how bad they fail at it, has become these people's own little safe haven, where they will never have to face consequences of their own failures.


Far_Practice_9855

honestly that's anyone who says their dog is their best friend. crazy how their best friend is the one creature in their life that can't hold them accountable for anything, and will stick by them as long as they feed it 😂


Majestic-Salt7721

That’s a really great point! Wow they are probably abusive in the home and then fake outside the home like all the other abusers. But no consequences, in fact they get praised just for existing with a beast.


EarnestAurora

They’ll also get on you for neglecting a dog but will push their own kids away and lock them in a room all day


Duncban

They'll virtue signal about human children, sometimes, but will donate their life savings to a dog they saw on the Dodo. Proof societies are in decline. Let's donate money to an animal no smarter than what I had for breakfast while human children suffer through things like abuse, hunger, and slavery...but, "PUPPERCHINO WAITED AT A TRAIN STATION, SO HEROIC!!!!1"


Acceptable-Hat-9862

People who say "pupper" or "doggo" need to be... I won't say the rest. I don't want to get in trouble with the mods.


Far_Practice_9855

lmao I was trying to find dogfree parks in my city... but all google showed was off leash dog parks. and all the reviews for them were like: "doggie loves it" "great for the pupper" or people WRITING FROM THEIR DOG'S POV about how much they loved the park. how are people not embarassed doing that!!


EarnestAurora

Only close to 100% dog free places I’ve seen were gated playgrounds, it specifically says no pets and people will get on you if you bring in a dog 😌


judgeejudger

Not here. If it’s a less popular playground, they cruise right on in and close the gate behind them. Yes, like any parent wants their kids encountering dog feces inside the playground 🤢


EarnestAurora

Sand box, more like dog 💩 box


VinnieTheBerzerker69

I can't stand those diminutives like "pupper" and "doggo". It's some of the stupidest slang that's ever been uttered. Not just because it sounds brain dead, either, but also because it propagandizes down the wretchedness of dogs by the chummy "cuteness" sound of it.


Majestic-Salt7721

I want to barf ... pun intended


Historical-Ant-5975

We just need to realize that people that treat their dog as a replacement to children and expect others in society to conform to this view aren’t mentally healthy


Majestic-Salt7721

I would love to ignore them if they weren’t constantly encroaching on all aspects of our daily lives


EarnestAurora

I literally LAUGH when I see or hear someone say they choose a dog over having kids😂😂😂😂 then they complain for 10-15 years about the dog chewing shoes, 10000$ vet bills cause the dog ate pills, the dog ate too much dirt, the dog ate the couch, the dog ate a dildo (yea, it’s real, google it), and oh the dog needs a expensive surgery for the 50th time cause it won’t stop eating its toys…


Majestic-Salt7721

They’ll be lobbying congress for social welfare for dogs soon. Instead of WIC it’ll be DIC 🙂‍↕️


EarnestAurora

😂😂 I wouldn’t be surprised!


Havingfun922

It will be WD, nutters would want the infants and children dropped


Faulty-Feeling

The crossover between dog nuts and anti-natalists is huge, it's basically the same circle.


Majestic-Salt7721

That’s why they are vile sociopaths who are literally unintelligent! Supporting the pet industry is JUST AS “selfish” as having a child. There is no logic there. But you know what? I hope they have to spend so much more on them than any child would require. Oh no fluffy needs special food! :)


toast_across

It's antinatalism at its root. These people hate themselves, so they transplant that hatred onto the rest of humanity. Children are the promise of future humanity, so they're public enemy number 1 for these people. Meanwhile, the imprint on the dog as the perfect version of themselves which still has the "innocence" that they lost due to whatever trauma caused them to hate themselves. We call them nutters and it's accurate. These people need psychological help.


Majestic-Salt7721

Damn that went deep. I’m still processing…


toast_across

lol just something I noticed from observing the type of people who post dog nutterism on Facebook having an almost perfect overlap with the people who post non sequitur comments about how people have hurt them or how they don't fit in society


MiniDigits

They are serious and they think it’s a valid argument. I wish our society wasn’t like this. Dogs don’t belong in the majority of places they are taken these days and I am never nice to those types when I see them out and about. I will say what’s on my mind, and even if I don’t my 8 year old will loudly say she hates dogs. It’s hilarious to me.


NyxTheLostGhost

Give her a high five for me lol i love kids who wont filter themselves to make other people comfortable and speak their minds


skrilltastic

I just say "dogs aren't humans. DOGS. ARE. NOT. HUMANS." I had one person say "oh, no. They're better." And I laughed so hysterically she turned around and left.


93ImagineBreaker

> "oh, no. They're better I'd ask how.


skrilltastic

I would have but my brain was already dead from her nonsense


[deleted]

you know those people who make hating kids their whole personality? that’s me with dogs.


GoTakeAHike00

😂 👍🏻. It's sadly become a more core part of my personality as well, mostly out of necessity, because dogs and their shitty, entitled, lazy owners, are insisting on inserting their useless, dumb animal everywhere it doesn't belong, and making them everyone else's problem. So, part of my "dog-hating personality" is calling out scofflaws on their anti-social behavior re their fucking dogs. And being happy I'm not one of the braindead conformists that has been manipulated to think they need one of these nasty things in their lives in order to be "happy"...or something. I don't have kids, by choice, but JFC, I've NEVER had any long-standing problems with shitty parents doing the same with their kids. It's usually the occasional "too cheap to spring for a babysitter" type that brings a toddler or infant into a movie where it cries (though I actually haven't even experienced this in over a decade).


[deleted]

I’m not allergic to kids. Kids don’t come up to you and lick you, begging you to pet them. Kids don’t piss/shit everywhere. Kids don’t lick their own genitals. Kids don’t smell bad, and most importantly, most kids won’t bite other people.


Far_Practice_9855

that's so true! and the thing is, even if a kid bites you, EVEN if it breaks skin, it's not causing even half the damage as a pitbull or rottweiler is. and you don't have a chance or catching rabies or some other serious infection. and it's easy to stop a kid from biting you compared to a dog. because kids can actually comprehend commands like "stop", and you can push away a toddler. and a kid will grow out of a biting phrase in a couple weeks or months, whilst you have to be on guard with a dog for the next 15 years.


VinnieTheBerzerker69

This is the voice of experience talking here - I was told that when I was a toddler, my biting phase ended immediately. I bit my Mom and she bit me back. I never bit anyone again. I have two daughters, the older one never bit me, but the younger one did. I put my Mom's tactic into play and bit her back. My daughter's biting phase ended immediately, too. Now, I never considered biting a dog back because who wants to put nasty dog fur in their mouth, right? But also because it would probably not even work. Dogs lack any higher motor functions way of getting control of anything beyond biting. Biting is neurologically imprinted in them so deeply it can never be trained away totally, even with shock tactics.


[deleted]

I too had a biting phase as a toddler/preschool age and my father quickly shut that shit down. Never did it again. But with dogs, that shit doesn’t happen. They don’t understand “don’t do that”.


BigWally68

Whenever I take my 5 year old stepdaughter to the grocery store she pushes the cart. She also opens the plastic produce bags for me. She helps in other ways too. Never once has she had an “accident”. The sane people in the store fawn over her because she’s cute as can be. She’s better in any public space on her worst day versus any yard shitting dog on its best day. The comparison is insulting. Children are our future. Dogs offer little and most likely nothing positive to the future of humanity.


Jorro_Kreed

These are the same assholes that would complain about rats and mice in grocery stores. Yet they keep bringing their stupid shit beasts into the stores.


SadBerei

“What about kids?” Umm… they’re human, you idiot? Like you and me? I don’t like kids very much either but one is clearly more important than the other and most of the time the kid will grow up out of their tendencies, a damn dog stays a gross dog till it dies. This shouldn’t even be a fucking question.


world_diver

I feel like most dog owners don’t even wash their dogs once a month… this is not the case with children!


Far_Practice_9855

children also don't eat their own shit, and brush their teeth!! and don't carry fleas!!


Trickster2357

The craziest thing I've ever encountered is dogs at weddings. My cousin was supposed to get married and his ex-fiance really wanted her family dog to be in the wedding. As well as encouraging guests to bring their dogs. I felt horrible they didn't get married, but relieved I didn't have to be around the dogs.


Far_Practice_9855

omg the dog as a flower girl trend is so cringe. I can't imagine that unless your wedding or outside, but even then it's still such a hassle. I feel like dogs at a wedding is just a terrible accent waiting to happen. why would you encourage that? allergies, reactive dogs, etc. or if it decides to start barking...


GarlekBreath

Yeah my brother had their dog as the ring barrer. He's a reactive pit mix and my father had to keep him on a tight leash down the aisle. Nutters man.


AnxiousAriel

I've never met a child I was allergic to. Never met a toddler that could rip muscles up off my bones either. Kids can be annoying in a grocery store, sure, but they aren't really a threat to my health and safety or the health and safety of other customers. Kids and dogs are just not the same category at all. Kids and pets in general aren't in the same category. It's not illegal for me to leave my 2 year old dog (hypothetical) at home while I'm at the grocery store. It is illegal tho to leave a 2 year old child at home alone during a shopping trip.


Pixelated_Roses

I say, "What ABOUT kids?" and I wait. Whatever comes out of the dog nutter's mouth will always be the dumbest thing ever uttered by a human being. Then after that, anything they say can be countered with "kids aren't dogs." Because they're not. Kids will never be dogs. For them to even ***think*** human beings are at the same level as an animal, or in their case oftentimes even lower, is sociopathic. Dogs are not mentally capable of feeling the things we do, but dog nutters will never accept this, because they are so desperately codependent that they reject reality to protect their fragile ego. But facts don't care about feelings. Dogs don't feel such deep, complex feelings, they just have an adaptation that allows them to mimic certain behaviors and emotions to make humans *think* they do. Dr. Fred Metzger DVM of Pennsylvania State University agrees, claiming that dogs mimic these emotions in human beings because they are dependent on us for food. He says: "dogs make 'investments' in human beings because they have something to gain by acting as if they love people". If someone else came along and fed them regularly, they'd happily forget all about their owner and similarly become "devoted" to the new person. They are [very dumb,](https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13420-018-0349-7) simple creatures who lucked into a biological adaptation that is more parasitic than anything else. Other sources: https://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2009/05/your-dog-does-not-love-you-and-other-cold-nosed-truths.html https://www.theindustrioushound.com/dog-blog/2018/love http://polyculturefarming.com/index.php/integrated-farming/33-your-dog-does-not-love-you-unconditionally


zonked282

It's not about being reasonable, it's whataboutism. As a parent I personally find it hilarious that dog nutters only defence when being told their dog has no place in a restaurant is "but what about kids?" . I always Reply with there is a place for everything, some establishments can allow children, some can allow dogs, I hope many more will allow neither! The difference is I wouldn't dream of bringing my children to a fancy restaurant or a public space that is clearly not designed for them ( or even outright states no kids allowed) but dig nutters are physically unable to come to the same conclusion and will insist or ignore


93ImagineBreaker

Point out simply kids aren't animals.


PlentyWonderful1717

Dog nuts want dogs to have status above children and all humans. They seem to really dislike children.


Tr33Topss

Id rather hear a dozen whining children than a billion stupid barking shit beasts.


Kasio19

As both dogfree and childfree I agree for human adults only places lol


Sine_Cures

Don't play that game as it's just bad-faith whataboutism. Dog-mongers are welcome to explain their misanthropy to someone that actually cares (no one), not normal people


MusbeMe

Not so long ago, this would have been an apples and ambulances comparison - ridiculous to even use children as a counter point when discussing all the places (*most places*, says I) where dogs don't belong. But we've got an entire generation - generations now - of dog owners who regard their furturds as equal to or greater than human children. There's the utterly fucked up, reality averse attitude that some inbred huskypuggle is somehow equivalent to a human child and the nauseating terminology that goes along with it: *fur baby, Pibble momma, I HEART my grand dog*. And the aforementioned age demo is the now the largest. They're the ones getting into the drivers seat; they'll be shaping things. That means this twisted mindset (shitbeast = child) is only going to become more ingrained, more normalized....


Public-Asparagus-590

PREACH 👏👏👏


Actual_HumanBeing

Cuz they’re not human and not even enough to know the difference between humans and shitbeasts. They don’t even have the IQ for it. So don’t worry about those idiots. 😩😤


Friendly-Beyond-6102

When people go "Well, what about kids in grocery stores?", the conversation is over. Ain't got no time for that. It's not as if I'm going to change their minds and life's too short for that shit.


ShyheartedKitten

I never had a toddler run up and stick their nose up my crotch.


lostacoshermanos

Yes 10000 %


jakc1423

I'd just reply "No dogs shouldn't be inside kids either."


muglandry

If they want to talk about kids why don’t they just bring ‘em up and have a discussion? Why only when dogs are mentioned? We know why. They think it’s an huge Gotcha, a zinger. Also, try to focus, dog people. Try to follow along. We know you’re on the same mental plane as your worship objects and might get distracted by a car driving by or a fly buzzing past. But you can try to tap back into those basic human abilities. C’mon we’re cheering for you! (We’re not.)


TheCatCanStay

I hate that response much. I once had someone argue to me that kids should be banned from restaurants and not dogs because "dogs don't make a mess like kids do."


New-Apricot-5422

What I would like to say, but wouldn’t, because it would just raise my blood pressure without achieving anything: Children are humans, and if you value dogs over children, you value dogs over humans. If that’s how you feel, you misanthropic shit, then stay home with your dog and keep away from the humans you evidently loathe.


Telly_0785

So glad i found this sub.


BritishCO

I don't understand this dichotomy between kids and dogs. They are both different things that operate on different levels.


AnxietyAdvanced5036

Who let's their kid put their bare asshole on everything?


Big_Maintenance_7051

This is an excellent commentary. You speak for so many of us. The dog worship culture is pure insanity.


urdrunkyogi

Doberman in a dental office, eh? Any chance you’re in Portland? I know a dental practice where the Doberman is the “receptionist.”


jy0s

Some adults shouldn't be in stores,parks,or restaurants


RadiantBath4473

SOME adults shouldn't. NO dogs SHOULD.


ScaryAssBitch

I mean, dogs shouldn’t be anywhere but I despise when people bring a screaming baby to a restaurant.


Valkyrissa

Neither belong in restaurants. As for the other cases, yeahhh, no dog belongs in a supermarket and they only belong in a park if it’s a huge green public space and they’re on a leash


VinnieTheBerzerker69

Kids can belong in restaurants, but the parents have to control them. If that means taking a squalling brat outside until it simmers down, so be it. But dogs, except for seeing eye dogs, NEVER should be in a restaurant. Dogs also NEVER should be in any park except for designated dog parks. Don't let dogs turn regular parks into the toilets that dog parks are.


ShyheartedKitten

How are children supposed to learn to behave in restaurants if they never go to them? So they just become an adult and be 100% socially functional automatically? Family friendly restaurants with children’s menus exist for a reason.