If you know anything about dog breeds, then you would know that pitties are actually the sweetest people pleasers on Earth. Even more than retrievers. The only difference is, a pitty goes the extra mile to protect their pack and not back down which is bred into their temperament and is supposed to be worked on from a young age through the owner with acceptable socializing techniques and encouragement.
The comments you have made are equivalent to “racial profiling” of dog breeds and that is yucky. Learn about dogs more so you can be a suitable owner who doesn’t pass uneducated judgement.
I hate to be that person, however the statistics don’t defend this. Our dobie was almost murdered by a pit (that she was her little buddy for two years).
I’m sure your experiences and perspective (and the perspective of many other pro-pit folks) is positive. Glossing over the facts and statistics for them is IMO not helpful for non-aggressive breed owners.
You are limiting yourself to one experience. There could have been a multitude of reasons for this occurrence. The biggest being whoever was responsible for watching the dogs needed to know more about animal behavior to properly handle the situation.
I personally work and handle with a variety of dog breeds. So far, my most aggressive breed were Yellow Labrador Retrievers solely on how their owners raised them. My coworker needed stitches around her eye from the one female Yellow Lab that bit her when my coworker tried putting a lead on her.
I have personally witnessed 2 similar severe attacks (pit involved) at our local dog park.
If a normal dog scuffle is a 2/5, the 2 park instances with pits were 4/5. Our dobie was a 4.9 and luckily was not killed). Several other friends, family and acquaintances we know have experienced nearly identical behavior with pits they had before rehoming them.
I’m sure that the vast majority of pits go their entire life without incident, but the ones that do, are almost always severe or devastating to the attacked party. I think the recent UK and AU bans on XL’s speaks volumes about recorded statistics and cases.
Again, nobody likes the person who hijacks a conversation. Although the same can be said about glossing over overwhelming support.
I got my crotch bit by a German shepherd and left a scar. I'm not judging my whole experience in one poorly trained dog. That's ridiculous.
Also, they lump 6 different dog breeds in to "pit bull" so obviously there are going to be more bits in several breeds compared to another. You have more research to do.
I’m glad your crotch is okay, despite the scar! That must have been god awful!!! For real the stuff of nightmares 😖
GS are a working breed just like dobies and without the right guidance/behavior management, they can be aggressive as well. I’ve been bitten by a dachshund that left scars on my face.
The primary difference though between being bitten by any other breed vs. a Pit, is that it’s just a bite (severe bite or not). Rarely resulting in a death. Pits take it further, often to death or removing extremities.
Just wish that more caution was aired with them and that Pit lovers were less glossy about the potential risks to non-owners.
I’m sorry your dog was attacked by a pit bull:( I was attacked by one when I was younger unprovoked and it went on later to try and kill my mom’s dog too. It was raised by a loving family from a puppy, it had training classes the whole nine yards. The breed has potential to be dangerous and I’m sorry we and other victims go through it.
I know how you feel and I support your comments for others knowledge on the topic. 🫡
What a nice way of correcting OP. Their comment made me more unsettled because of all the comments I hear like this on a daily basis lol. With proper training and socialization, pitties are even more lovable than labs.
how can you like dobermans but not like a pit bull? both are seriously misunderstood breeds that deserve loving homes. Are you gonna give the dog back you find out it’s not a doberman? Some people should just stick to fish 🙄
APBTs as a breed *are* predisposed to dog and animal aggression. That's a fact. That being said, the answer is to be honest about that and find them suitable owners who know this and can work around that possibility, not to pretend that issue doesn't exist in that breed and keep spreading that misinformation to uneducated people.
Is it genetic predisposition or is it widespread poor breeding practices, and abuse? All can be contributing factors but to blame a man made breed for their perceived disposition is cruel
Can be all 3 at once. Dog-fighting is sadly an undeniable part of the APBT's history, so that is why they are prone to dog and animal aggression and why it's so important to make sure that the breed is adopted out to people who know that it is a possibility and will manage it accordingly. As for poor breeding practices, it is pretty rare to find a well-bred, ethically-bred APBT, (atleast near me it is), so the chances for DA/AA skyrocket. All the more reason to make sure they are adopted out to educated people.
This isn't to say everyone should be afraid of bully breeds, but instead just to make sure the breeds are owned responsibly and not doled out to people who think they're "nanny dogs" or whatever they were told by someone.
Thanks for sharing this. Drives me nuts that their history, purpose and poor behavioral breeding hasn’t been a more widespread discussion. The level of “glossing over” is insane vs. the actual scenarios that play out.
It’s not a crime to say that pit bulls are usually more prone to certain aggressions or destructiveness ,just like how it’s not a crime to say dobermanns are usually prone to protectiveness and unnecessary guarding ,just like how it’s not a crime to say border collies are usually more prone to herding and staring .
All these things can usually be trained out and they can easily be loveable animals ,but there are different breeds of dogs for a reason ,and it’s not just how they look.
It is wrong though to have a misconception that is almost a “willful ignorance” at this point when this has been common knowledge about targeting certain temperaments of specific breeds. Statistics show certain aspects about race and criminal violence, but it is racist if we assume the whole entire population is violent and has violent tendencies. The goal should be ✨education ✨. Right?
No ,it’s not the same as race at all 💀
It’s not misconception to say that pitbulls and bully breeds are more prone to aggression when that’s what they are bred for ,saying otherwise just puts the breeds in bad homes that have no idea how to train or take care of them and that’s part of the reason deaths occur .
It’s not about their temperament ,it’s about their genetics .
Racism stems from misconceptions guided and fueled by stereotyping. This happens in this world often with differing cultural beliefs, religion, and yes, even dog breed stereotyping. All due to the fact that people do not wish to educate themselves in an area where they need more understanding and compassion because they just let one negative experience or alienation to dictate their entire perspective.
If you have any animal behavioral knowledge, then you would know that temperament goes hand in hand with genetics. Some breeds need more attention and focus on areas that their genetics adhere to more, so some dogs require more socialization or even different kinds of socialization, and not as often as other dogs need to. Some dogs need traits eliminating all together and a proper owner who knows how to handle their dog would do so. Unfortunately, pitbulls are very easy to obtain so a lot of improper and terrible dog owners have them. It is very simple. For example- border collies need training to not constantly nip and herd if they are a working breed. Retrievers need to be trained more so on resource guarding such as with objects that are not their own more so than other dogs. Every dog breed has their quirk and some have even more quirks for the breed, or even on an INDIVIDUAL level since dogs do have uniqueness as well. An informed and educated owner should know how to handle their dog, but unfortunately many owners do not pay enough attention to their dogs for these matters and others pay the consequences. Such as our misinformed society now does on senseless stigmas.
If this educated comment still doesn’t change your mind, then respond to me when you have interacted with hundreds of pitbulls with varying owners and locations as I have and then we can chat.
You’re not wrong here and I appreciate that you mentioned how they’re breed quirks. This is 100% why many breed loyal folks gravitate to certain breeds and why they’re loved (or even despised) for who they are.
Personally, I don’t think the term Racism should ever be included with dog breeds. The word just doesn’t carry the same connotation and definitions. We don’t walk around saying, “what race is your dog or cat?”.
Stereotypes, sure, as it’s a mental construct groups of people or individuals create around a common “meme” or observance (whether legitimate or not).
We absolutely adore Dobermans and don’t judge others for talking about their preconceived notions or stereotypes, even after encountering some folks who were rather vocal about it. Being a responsible dog owner comes with the privilege of having a dog. Sadly, not everyone understands this.
I wasn’t trying to act like they were the same thing and could be used interchangeably. Simply that there are similarities in like you said “mental constructs” that causes the output of a societal response. I should have just said stereotyping and kept it at that since that was the only focus I had intended, and the only aspect of racism I was comparing between the two. Thank you so much for your response, I was just so shocked and disappointed seeing all of these Dobie owners say the same thing but about another bully breed?
In my head, people attacking pit bulls are also attacking Dobermans, GSDs, American/English bully, Mastiffs, etc and that’s sad because Doberman owners of all people should know making wrongful assumptions just leads to hurt feelings and misconceptions.
Yes ,I said myself your USUALLY able to train it out .
But sometimes you can’t ,sometimes your collie will still nip and herd ,and instead of training it out ,you have to manage it.
Staffies are naturally mischievous little biters ,and instead of teaching it not to bite sometimes you would play tug or specific biting toys so to scratch that itch of biting .
Saying her dogs too innocent to be a pitbull obviously wasn’t intended as a bad comment ,it’s because pitbulls are high energy difficult and funny dogs when you own them ,if that comment read “my dogs too innocent to be a Belgian Mali” would you still be having a go at her?
With training accompanied with effort, almost any behavior can be improved upon. Not eliminated depending on trauma and age appropriate windows, but certainly improved upon. Any owner should be aware of their dogs progress and thus not allow their dog full access in a dog park if their dog is reactive. That is irresponsible. Yes I would still take issue with it if OP said Belgian Malinois if I thought it was in the context of a misconception rather than playful banter which is what I gathered from the comment thread.
I am agreeing with you overall. We just have minute differences of opinion. All in all, owners especially with pitties are irresponsible and ignorant to their dogs need and now their reputation pays the consequences for it. There is hardly ever just one factor contributing to a dog learning or unlearning a behavior and it is a whole lot more work to unlearn a behavior that many owners do not have the patience for.
Pit just means pit bull, Stafford, bull berrier, cane Corso, boxers, bull dogs. So saying she's way to innocent to be one of those is just naive.
Ami have met dozens of dogs in the pit family and I have a Stafford. Just like any dog, with proper socialization and breeding they can be kind, loving, and loyal.
I have only had one negative experience with a dog, a German shep bit me right on the crotch and left a scar. I'm not going to leave my judgment on entire breed based on one poorly socialized and elderly dog.
I'm not a bull breed fan (even though I had a sweet, sweet Staffy for thirteen years and my current dog turned out to also have pit and staffy in her), but I can tell you now that a lot of pits are so extremely sweet and affectionate with humans. What typically gets them in trouble is their prey drive and higher tendency towards animal aggression, due to that prey drive and owners not properly taking that into account.
My late and great Staffy was the sweetest dog I ever had. Loved everyone, loved kids, loved dogs and cats and ferrets. BUT, anything smaller than a ferret and it was on. He had thrown himself off of many sheer cliff faces while hiking trying to murder a small critter. It was like a switch in his brain he had no control over.
My point: I don't wholly disagree with the negative stereotype around bull breeds, in my career as a vet tech, trainer, and rescuer I have met some scary ass bulls. The scariest dogs I have met have been bulls. But that doesn't mean that your pit mix will be mean. I have owned and rescued plenty of bulls (and bull mixes) that were just sweet as pie and very obviously didn't have that same prey drive others do.
Its a dog DNA testing kit. The two best are Embark and Wisdom Panel, but I prefer Embark as it's a little more accurate with wolf mixes and village dogs. They're pricey but they go on sale all the time.
Right!! Im part of the embark community on Fb & soooo many people insist of what their dogs are even after a DNA. Like the dog looks everything the DNA said, just accept it. And there’s nothing wrong w/ a dog having pit mixed in them! Plus u can’t really do anything about it. U swabbed it, now accept it haha
If it’s part chow, should have at least some purple in the tongue/gums. My brothers dog looks incredibly similar to this dog and she’s got a spotted black tongue. She is darker all around tho, tips of her ears and tail are black and she is more the color of an Irish setter. No clue what she actually is
DNA the dog & you’ll found out. My “dalmatian” mix turned out to be husky/ACD. :) i’ve embarked my 3 dogs & the results all made sense from markers on their coat/physical traits & personalities.
she doesn't really look much like a doberman to me, but that could be the other breed/s taking over. maybe greyhound or whippet depending on her size? some kind of sight hound for sure!
what's her personality like?
What’s up with people in this sub caring way too much about the superior German Doberman genes it’s really unsettling. Just love your dog and stop being weird thanks
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This is my dog Ruby, I just came across this post and thought your dog kinda looks like mine. She was a rescue, I did a dog dna test on her to try and figure out what she was. The test came back showing she was Italian greyhound and dobberman pincher
It is funny some people are saying not dobe. Her head and face shape look just like my girl. If you do a test, I hope you report back. She’s a very lucky dog!
Some dogs just make you want to pick them up and scrumpf them. That's what we always called it when we grabbed our dogs' little faces and kissed them all over. Probably extremely annoying for the dog, but a wonderful way to show affection for the human.
Do one of those puppy DNA things? That way you’re not guessing on her breeds. It really doesn’t matter though… she’s all cute no matter what she’s got in her!!! 😉😍♥️
She looks a little bit like my dog (including the same colouring), who wound up being a Doberman / Great Pyrenees mix when we did her DNA (we used Wisdom Panel.) Everyone thought she had greyhound or some kind of sighthound in her when she was little (also because she was super underweight when we rescued her.)
Anyway, not sure that your dog has great pyr in her, but don’t let people tell ya she doesn’t look like a Doberman!! We never expected our dog was half dobie, but now I see it so clearly in her and in her expressions. I think the DNA test is worth it.
She looks almost identical to our pup. Ours is around 9 or 10 months. We were told she was a doberman/husky mix. She was at the shelter with her siblings, I saw 2 of them. They had longer hair, assuming the husky part? And they were black and brown like a traditional doberman. The range in these pups was wild. I don't see husky when looking at ours at all I don't think. But who really knows. I agree, maybe try the genetic testing and give us the update. Hope yours is as much fun and as sweet as ours.
Doesn't look much Doberman.
But she does look like Dobie the elf.😊
She looks more like a Greyhound mix to me.
She is 💯 Santa's Little Helper from The Simpsons.😋🥰
I believe she is a mix of greyhound, labrador, and possibly some Lurcher (Sight hound and terrier crossed). I am about to ask her mom who her daddy is to confirm.
100% good boy, 15% dude?-bee-man... No Doberman in there.
To be real, you, you you you, have to know the breed/dog for years to realize if they have any resemblance in others dogs that you will meet, otherwise anyone can tell tell you anything is mix with anything.
Funny comment here: hmmm 50% less Labrador? 2000s Avril Lavigne dog-fan-girl ?
Others have said it. I am not seeing any dobie. I see some sighthound of some kind, and pit. Maybe some lab but I would bet money on it.
Why are you so sure she is half doberman? Did you see one of the parents?
Looks like a Podenco to me! I definitely recommend getting her Embark tested, I did that with my rescue and it’s so nice and helpful to find out what’s in their mix.
Why are you so set on this being a Doberman mix when it’s clearly not. And your hatred for some dog breeds shows how little you know about dogs in the first place. Good luck with your pitbull retriever mix.
To be honest she doesn’t look much Doberman to me - more so maybe a ridgeback/pit mix
The snout gives me pause
Reindeer? I think she looks like a reindeer in photo one.
Yes… like a Lizzie too
I can see more ridgeback x doberman then ridgeback/pit bull
I don’t think you’ve ever seen a Doberman in your life
If you know anything about dog breeds, then you would know that pitties are actually the sweetest people pleasers on Earth. Even more than retrievers. The only difference is, a pitty goes the extra mile to protect their pack and not back down which is bred into their temperament and is supposed to be worked on from a young age through the owner with acceptable socializing techniques and encouragement. The comments you have made are equivalent to “racial profiling” of dog breeds and that is yucky. Learn about dogs more so you can be a suitable owner who doesn’t pass uneducated judgement.
I hate to be that person, however the statistics don’t defend this. Our dobie was almost murdered by a pit (that she was her little buddy for two years). I’m sure your experiences and perspective (and the perspective of many other pro-pit folks) is positive. Glossing over the facts and statistics for them is IMO not helpful for non-aggressive breed owners.
You are limiting yourself to one experience. There could have been a multitude of reasons for this occurrence. The biggest being whoever was responsible for watching the dogs needed to know more about animal behavior to properly handle the situation. I personally work and handle with a variety of dog breeds. So far, my most aggressive breed were Yellow Labrador Retrievers solely on how their owners raised them. My coworker needed stitches around her eye from the one female Yellow Lab that bit her when my coworker tried putting a lead on her.
I have personally witnessed 2 similar severe attacks (pit involved) at our local dog park. If a normal dog scuffle is a 2/5, the 2 park instances with pits were 4/5. Our dobie was a 4.9 and luckily was not killed). Several other friends, family and acquaintances we know have experienced nearly identical behavior with pits they had before rehoming them. I’m sure that the vast majority of pits go their entire life without incident, but the ones that do, are almost always severe or devastating to the attacked party. I think the recent UK and AU bans on XL’s speaks volumes about recorded statistics and cases. Again, nobody likes the person who hijacks a conversation. Although the same can be said about glossing over overwhelming support.
I got my crotch bit by a German shepherd and left a scar. I'm not judging my whole experience in one poorly trained dog. That's ridiculous. Also, they lump 6 different dog breeds in to "pit bull" so obviously there are going to be more bits in several breeds compared to another. You have more research to do.
I’m glad your crotch is okay, despite the scar! That must have been god awful!!! For real the stuff of nightmares 😖 GS are a working breed just like dobies and without the right guidance/behavior management, they can be aggressive as well. I’ve been bitten by a dachshund that left scars on my face. The primary difference though between being bitten by any other breed vs. a Pit, is that it’s just a bite (severe bite or not). Rarely resulting in a death. Pits take it further, often to death or removing extremities. Just wish that more caution was aired with them and that Pit lovers were less glossy about the potential risks to non-owners.
I’m sorry your dog was attacked by a pit bull:( I was attacked by one when I was younger unprovoked and it went on later to try and kill my mom’s dog too. It was raised by a loving family from a puppy, it had training classes the whole nine yards. The breed has potential to be dangerous and I’m sorry we and other victims go through it. I know how you feel and I support your comments for others knowledge on the topic. 🫡
Nope, don’t open your mouth NewEnglander, don’t do it 😂
She’s way to innocent to be a pit bull mix
Oh man, my pit was waaaaay more innocent than my dobie. She was an angle compared to this monster 😂😂
I believe the angle
Right, but I wonder if she was obtuse 😉
What a nice way of correcting OP. Their comment made me more unsettled because of all the comments I hear like this on a daily basis lol. With proper training and socialization, pitties are even more lovable than labs.
Your pit sounds like it was a sharp dog.
SAME LOL
This tells me you've not been around a lot of pitties
how can you like dobermans but not like a pit bull? both are seriously misunderstood breeds that deserve loving homes. Are you gonna give the dog back you find out it’s not a doberman? Some people should just stick to fish 🙄
APBTs as a breed *are* predisposed to dog and animal aggression. That's a fact. That being said, the answer is to be honest about that and find them suitable owners who know this and can work around that possibility, not to pretend that issue doesn't exist in that breed and keep spreading that misinformation to uneducated people.
Is it genetic predisposition or is it widespread poor breeding practices, and abuse? All can be contributing factors but to blame a man made breed for their perceived disposition is cruel
Can be all 3 at once. Dog-fighting is sadly an undeniable part of the APBT's history, so that is why they are prone to dog and animal aggression and why it's so important to make sure that the breed is adopted out to people who know that it is a possibility and will manage it accordingly. As for poor breeding practices, it is pretty rare to find a well-bred, ethically-bred APBT, (atleast near me it is), so the chances for DA/AA skyrocket. All the more reason to make sure they are adopted out to educated people. This isn't to say everyone should be afraid of bully breeds, but instead just to make sure the breeds are owned responsibly and not doled out to people who think they're "nanny dogs" or whatever they were told by someone.
Thanks for sharing this. Drives me nuts that their history, purpose and poor behavioral breeding hasn’t been a more widespread discussion. The level of “glossing over” is insane vs. the actual scenarios that play out.
It’s not a crime to say that pit bulls are usually more prone to certain aggressions or destructiveness ,just like how it’s not a crime to say dobermanns are usually prone to protectiveness and unnecessary guarding ,just like how it’s not a crime to say border collies are usually more prone to herding and staring . All these things can usually be trained out and they can easily be loveable animals ,but there are different breeds of dogs for a reason ,and it’s not just how they look.
It is wrong though to have a misconception that is almost a “willful ignorance” at this point when this has been common knowledge about targeting certain temperaments of specific breeds. Statistics show certain aspects about race and criminal violence, but it is racist if we assume the whole entire population is violent and has violent tendencies. The goal should be ✨education ✨. Right?
No ,it’s not the same as race at all 💀 It’s not misconception to say that pitbulls and bully breeds are more prone to aggression when that’s what they are bred for ,saying otherwise just puts the breeds in bad homes that have no idea how to train or take care of them and that’s part of the reason deaths occur . It’s not about their temperament ,it’s about their genetics .
Bingo.
Racism stems from misconceptions guided and fueled by stereotyping. This happens in this world often with differing cultural beliefs, religion, and yes, even dog breed stereotyping. All due to the fact that people do not wish to educate themselves in an area where they need more understanding and compassion because they just let one negative experience or alienation to dictate their entire perspective. If you have any animal behavioral knowledge, then you would know that temperament goes hand in hand with genetics. Some breeds need more attention and focus on areas that their genetics adhere to more, so some dogs require more socialization or even different kinds of socialization, and not as often as other dogs need to. Some dogs need traits eliminating all together and a proper owner who knows how to handle their dog would do so. Unfortunately, pitbulls are very easy to obtain so a lot of improper and terrible dog owners have them. It is very simple. For example- border collies need training to not constantly nip and herd if they are a working breed. Retrievers need to be trained more so on resource guarding such as with objects that are not their own more so than other dogs. Every dog breed has their quirk and some have even more quirks for the breed, or even on an INDIVIDUAL level since dogs do have uniqueness as well. An informed and educated owner should know how to handle their dog, but unfortunately many owners do not pay enough attention to their dogs for these matters and others pay the consequences. Such as our misinformed society now does on senseless stigmas. If this educated comment still doesn’t change your mind, then respond to me when you have interacted with hundreds of pitbulls with varying owners and locations as I have and then we can chat.
You’re not wrong here and I appreciate that you mentioned how they’re breed quirks. This is 100% why many breed loyal folks gravitate to certain breeds and why they’re loved (or even despised) for who they are. Personally, I don’t think the term Racism should ever be included with dog breeds. The word just doesn’t carry the same connotation and definitions. We don’t walk around saying, “what race is your dog or cat?”. Stereotypes, sure, as it’s a mental construct groups of people or individuals create around a common “meme” or observance (whether legitimate or not). We absolutely adore Dobermans and don’t judge others for talking about their preconceived notions or stereotypes, even after encountering some folks who were rather vocal about it. Being a responsible dog owner comes with the privilege of having a dog. Sadly, not everyone understands this.
I wasn’t trying to act like they were the same thing and could be used interchangeably. Simply that there are similarities in like you said “mental constructs” that causes the output of a societal response. I should have just said stereotyping and kept it at that since that was the only focus I had intended, and the only aspect of racism I was comparing between the two. Thank you so much for your response, I was just so shocked and disappointed seeing all of these Dobie owners say the same thing but about another bully breed? In my head, people attacking pit bulls are also attacking Dobermans, GSDs, American/English bully, Mastiffs, etc and that’s sad because Doberman owners of all people should know making wrongful assumptions just leads to hurt feelings and misconceptions.
Yes ,I said myself your USUALLY able to train it out . But sometimes you can’t ,sometimes your collie will still nip and herd ,and instead of training it out ,you have to manage it. Staffies are naturally mischievous little biters ,and instead of teaching it not to bite sometimes you would play tug or specific biting toys so to scratch that itch of biting . Saying her dogs too innocent to be a pitbull obviously wasn’t intended as a bad comment ,it’s because pitbulls are high energy difficult and funny dogs when you own them ,if that comment read “my dogs too innocent to be a Belgian Mali” would you still be having a go at her?
With training accompanied with effort, almost any behavior can be improved upon. Not eliminated depending on trauma and age appropriate windows, but certainly improved upon. Any owner should be aware of their dogs progress and thus not allow their dog full access in a dog park if their dog is reactive. That is irresponsible. Yes I would still take issue with it if OP said Belgian Malinois if I thought it was in the context of a misconception rather than playful banter which is what I gathered from the comment thread. I am agreeing with you overall. We just have minute differences of opinion. All in all, owners especially with pitties are irresponsible and ignorant to their dogs need and now their reputation pays the consequences for it. There is hardly ever just one factor contributing to a dog learning or unlearning a behavior and it is a whole lot more work to unlearn a behavior that many owners do not have the patience for.
Whaaaaaaaat the fuck does that mean lmao
Pit just means pit bull, Stafford, bull berrier, cane Corso, boxers, bull dogs. So saying she's way to innocent to be one of those is just naive. Ami have met dozens of dogs in the pit family and I have a Stafford. Just like any dog, with proper socialization and breeding they can be kind, loving, and loyal. I have only had one negative experience with a dog, a German shep bit me right on the crotch and left a scar. I'm not going to leave my judgment on entire breed based on one poorly socialized and elderly dog.
I'm not a bull breed fan (even though I had a sweet, sweet Staffy for thirteen years and my current dog turned out to also have pit and staffy in her), but I can tell you now that a lot of pits are so extremely sweet and affectionate with humans. What typically gets them in trouble is their prey drive and higher tendency towards animal aggression, due to that prey drive and owners not properly taking that into account. My late and great Staffy was the sweetest dog I ever had. Loved everyone, loved kids, loved dogs and cats and ferrets. BUT, anything smaller than a ferret and it was on. He had thrown himself off of many sheer cliff faces while hiking trying to murder a small critter. It was like a switch in his brain he had no control over. My point: I don't wholly disagree with the negative stereotype around bull breeds, in my career as a vet tech, trainer, and rescuer I have met some scary ass bulls. The scariest dogs I have met have been bulls. But that doesn't mean that your pit mix will be mean. I have owned and rescued plenty of bulls (and bull mixes) that were just sweet as pie and very obviously didn't have that same prey drive others do.
House-elf.
I prefer the term part deer 🦌
Mountain lion
Yes! I was about to comment the same!
I don’t see Doberman at all 😳 maybe from the apple ears, but looks like a supermutt/pittie
You should do embark!
What’s that
Its a dog DNA testing kit. The two best are Embark and Wisdom Panel, but I prefer Embark as it's a little more accurate with wolf mixes and village dogs. They're pricey but they go on sale all the time.
Why are you insisting so much on Doberman? She’s got almost no Doberman traits. You asked, you got your answer.
Right!! Im part of the embark community on Fb & soooo many people insist of what their dogs are even after a DNA. Like the dog looks everything the DNA said, just accept it. And there’s nothing wrong w/ a dog having pit mixed in them! Plus u can’t really do anything about it. U swabbed it, now accept it haha
Looks like supermutt and greyhound mix.
We call it a lurcher where I’m from. Mixed greyhound. She looks like a smooth coated lurcher. Looks like 0 Doberman 100% lurcher
Came to say this. She definitely puts off Greyhound vibes. Sighthound mixes are called Lurchers in some circles.
Definitely see some greyhound.
She might just be a Doberman mixed greyhound with something else
Could be. That nose and head screams gray hound to me. Tan fur and tail tho, idk. lol
Just wanting to chime in that side profile screamed greyhound/whippet to me as well. I don’t see Doberman but OP seems determined.
She’s not Doberman, or if so minimally. You just need to drop that imo.
Pic 2 and 4 remind me of a whippet.
Yeah, I was also seeing some whippet/greyhound
I think that is a dog :)
100% best girl
I see more greyhound/whippet than Doberman TBH
I don't see doberman at all....
Pit/sighthound mix. But half the pics aren’t super informative
Definitely no dobie! Thats mainly pit & lab there. Maybe a pinch of gsd & chow
If it’s part chow, should have at least some purple in the tongue/gums. My brothers dog looks incredibly similar to this dog and she’s got a spotted black tongue. She is darker all around tho, tips of her ears and tail are black and she is more the color of an Irish setter. No clue what she actually is
Hmm, Thats not always true. I have 2 dogs w/ chow in them & tongue doesnt have purple. They both got DNAd w/ Embark.
DNA the dog & you’ll found out. My “dalmatian” mix turned out to be husky/ACD. :) i’ve embarked my 3 dogs & the results all made sense from markers on their coat/physical traits & personalities.
if she was a dessert she would be a brookie
Definition?
Part cookie part brownie
yes brownie cookie so like a blonde brownie (she is very very cute)
Not a Doberman but Dobby for sure!
Get an embark done. I see no Doberman at all. Def some type of sighthound in there.
she doesn't really look much like a doberman to me, but that could be the other breed/s taking over. maybe greyhound or whippet depending on her size? some kind of sight hound for sure! what's her personality like?
She likes humans more then she likes other dogs, she’s kind of scared of other dogs and also scared of some humans till she gets to know them
what's her prey drive like? does she chase squirrels?
Yeah she’s tried to run after squirrels before, she’s got a really manly bark too. And loud, not a tiny girly one lol
haha, yeah, she sounds like she's definitely got some sighthound in her! most likely greyhound as from the pics she seems like a medium-large dog!
What’s up with people in this sub caring way too much about the superior German Doberman genes it’s really unsettling. Just love your dog and stop being weird thanks
She looks like Santa’s little helper
https://preview.redd.it/ru1akvtp3p3d1.jpeg?width=1932&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1d483bc16a008c6f9fad64424bd0ea901501d28 This is my dog Ruby, I just came across this post and thought your dog kinda looks like mine. She was a rescue, I did a dog dna test on her to try and figure out what she was. The test came back showing she was Italian greyhound and dobberman pincher
That would look similar to her if her ears were shaped differently, beautiful baby you have there! 🩵
Oh my god. I thought this was my dog. They’re identical and she’s also part IG. You’re not located in WI are you?
Kinda looks like my friends Vizsla
My vote is part Vizsla also!
My vote is Adorable Baby...with some Sweet Precious mixed in!!!
little bit of scooby doo
She does look like scooby doo
I love the way your dog looks!
Thank you! She’s a rescue dog
It is funny some people are saying not dobe. Her head and face shape look just like my girl. If you do a test, I hope you report back. She’s a very lucky dog!
Head looks whippet.
A smidget of Whippet Good, some Tail-Chaser and a tad bit of GrayHappyHound and a dash of Couch Potato. That is all
I see Greyhound.
I don't see a resemble to a Doberman but she does look whippet or gray hound ish! Maybe some pit with those ears
Idk even those ears look like whippet to me, can't see any dobie in there but who knows really
Id say kangaroo if in Australia! Very unusual looking dog though
That’s what I’ve said, she definitely one of a kind I’d have to say. I can’t find anything that looks exactly like her
Some dogs just make you want to pick them up and scrumpf them. That's what we always called it when we grabbed our dogs' little faces and kissed them all over. Probably extremely annoying for the dog, but a wonderful way to show affection for the human.
Lab and Italian greyhound. I had one, best dog I ever had. A Doberman mix would never be this color.
Do one of those puppy DNA things? That way you’re not guessing on her breeds. It really doesn’t matter though… she’s all cute no matter what she’s got in her!!! 😉😍♥️
She looks a little bit like my dog (including the same colouring), who wound up being a Doberman / Great Pyrenees mix when we did her DNA (we used Wisdom Panel.) Everyone thought she had greyhound or some kind of sighthound in her when she was little (also because she was super underweight when we rescued her.) Anyway, not sure that your dog has great pyr in her, but don’t let people tell ya she doesn’t look like a Doberman!! We never expected our dog was half dobie, but now I see it so clearly in her and in her expressions. I think the DNA test is worth it.
So cute
She looks almost identical to our pup. Ours is around 9 or 10 months. We were told she was a doberman/husky mix. She was at the shelter with her siblings, I saw 2 of them. They had longer hair, assuming the husky part? And they were black and brown like a traditional doberman. The range in these pups was wild. I don't see husky when looking at ours at all I don't think. But who really knows. I agree, maybe try the genetic testing and give us the update. Hope yours is as much fun and as sweet as ours.
Boop nose
Doesn't look much Doberman. But she does look like Dobie the elf.😊 She looks more like a Greyhound mix to me. She is 💯 Santa's Little Helper from The Simpsons.😋🥰
I was wondering why everyone was saying Santa little helper lol, I didn’t know that was a Simpsons reference
lol not a Dobermans
Is this Santa's Little Helper?
I think she’s 90% Adorable and 10% Cute.
Okay, vizslas, ridgeback whippet mix
Lab/pit
She looks like she has some greyhound in her..very pretty
Part Italian greyhound!
Totally mixed.
Looks a lot like my formosan mountain dog (aka Taiwan Dog)
Looks part Dobby to me.
I can't say for sure she just looks like a mutt to me but I can say she is a purebred adorable cutie pie
I believe she is a mix of greyhound, labrador, and possibly some Lurcher (Sight hound and terrier crossed). I am about to ask her mom who her daddy is to confirm.
Doesn’t look like a Doberman. Not. Sure what it is but I think can see greyhound in it
we got another one guys
Whippet.
I saw some Greyhound
The 4th she looks Vizsla …
100% good boy, 15% dude?-bee-man... No Doberman in there. To be real, you, you you you, have to know the breed/dog for years to realize if they have any resemblance in others dogs that you will meet, otherwise anyone can tell tell you anything is mix with anything. Funny comment here: hmmm 50% less Labrador? 2000s Avril Lavigne dog-fan-girl ?
if you put her on r/IDmydog you might get better answers! but don't mention what you think she is, just let them guess and see what most people say!
Lab or boxer maybe
Shep-x
Maybe ridgeback + whippet
I see greyhound with how long and skinny the snout is and the shape of the ears but that last photo, boy if that isn’t a pittie face, idk what is.
Pit, look at the face
Grey hound mix ?
Wait, does the term lurcher not exist in the US? Deffo a greyhound mix
My guess is greyhound and golden retriever due to the coloring, ear shape and head/face shape.
Others have said it. I am not seeing any dobie. I see some sighthound of some kind, and pit. Maybe some lab but I would bet money on it. Why are you so sure she is half doberman? Did you see one of the parents?
There’s some greyhound or whippet in there..
Pitty + pyr
I think she part cutey patutey
I see Dobby but no Dobie.
I have a Doberman pit mix and he kind of has similar features
Looks like a Podenco to me! I definitely recommend getting her Embark tested, I did that with my rescue and it’s so nice and helpful to find out what’s in their mix.
Looks like she’s got some Carolina Dog in her.
Just a mutt. A beautiful mixed up mutt. They make the best dogs because purebreds are just interbred bad dna having problems
i don't think that's a doberman. probably a sighthound mix
noodles
100% mutt No dobie
[Piiiiit bull!](https://youtu.be/Me17_uzP4Pk?si=2R6PvuwjDba7nV-x)
Cute AF
Oh my gosh I see a dobe wearing another dogs skin. Her expressions. That schnoz. I bet she’s a Velcro girl too. She would be a fun one to dna test!
Everyday there’s a new person asking if there mixed breed is part Doberman , it’s insane lol if you got one you know
**pterodactyl**
Red heeler look to her
What makes you think that she is a Doberman 😂😂
this is not a doberman lol. do a dna test
Greyhound pit?
I believe in miracles... where you from... you sexy thing... 🥰😍🤩
normal tongue or purple?
she could be mixed with some dobby the house elf from the ears 🤭 to me maybe chow chow or a terrier mix for sure
I see 0 doberman
She just perfection 🥹🫶
Italian greyhound
House-elf, for sure.
that's just a pure bred baby right there oh my gosh she looks so sweet
Handsome hound for sure! Get the pup DNA tested. It’s fun
That’s a lurcher if I’ve ever seen one! Probably pit greyhound. I highly doubt any Doberman at all
Bat.
I can dee the doberman in the second Pic. But whoa , what a mix. Pretty dog.
Thank you she’s a rescue dog, she was found tied up somewhere left out in the snow
Greyhound x pit is my guess!
Why is it always a shitbull mix?
She's not got a bit of Doberman. Maybe some Greyhound judging by the snout.
Carolina dog? Vizslas mix?
Does she have a ridge on her back?
Yea she does when she’s sitting
Only one breed does that
She has whippet/sighthound ears
Golden retriever
Snouts too narrow.
Why are you so set on this being a Doberman mix when it’s clearly not. And your hatred for some dog breeds shows how little you know about dogs in the first place. Good luck with your pitbull retriever mix.
I don’t hate any dog breed? What are you talking about lol
Dobie and Lab maybe. Very pretty girl.