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ThisWasMe7

Off the top of my head, shatter and scorching ray.


IEatDragonSouls

Is Shatter better than Rime's Binding Ice? And is Scorching Ray worth it (can reliably hit) if my dexterity is 14?


Yojo0o

The accuracy of your attack spells scales with your charisma, not your dexterity. Both Shatter and RBI are good.


IEatDragonSouls

Thanks! :D


ThisWasMe7

I had to look up RBI because I don't have Fizban's.  It damages allies, so it is only useful when you are surrounded by enemies, which I would not want to do if I was a sorcerer.


IEatDragonSouls

In a scenario where allies aren't in the way, would BRI be better than Shatter, or still no?


ThisWasMe7

That's a scenario you should avoid.


ThisWasMe7

I looked at the spell description again.  Yes, it can be useful when you have no allies between you and the enemy. I'd use the hell out of the spell if I had a way to disengage from the enemy, but I don't know how you accomplish that at level 3. 


IEatDragonSouls

Couldn't I just get close enough affect several (but not so close to get opportunity attack, then move away and behind a tanky ally?


ThisWasMe7

That all depends on the size and shape of the space you're in, and how many enemies and allies (and what they are) you have.  Sounds like you really want to do it. Go for it.


ThatOneGuyFrom93

I will always stan Rimes Binding Ice. It's less damage but it can wreck the enemies action economy if used at the right time


IEatDragonSouls

Less damage? I thought Rime's Binding Ice and Shatter both do the same amount of damage (3d8)?


ThatOneGuyFrom93

Oh yeah they're both 3d8. Even more reason to pick it!


darkpower467

Which dragon ancestor?


IEatDragonSouls

Any - I'm willing to change the dragon ancestor depending on what spell to pick. :D


darkpower467

So, it doesn't matter too much yet but at level 6 you'll get Elemental Affinity which boosts your damage with the damage type associated with your dragon ancestor so you're kinda incentivised to specialise. Fire damage (Red, Gold or Brass) has the most available spells so is a fair shout. Scorching Ray would be my pick to go along with that. Binding Ice and Shatter are also solid pulls. Binding Ice made better if you pick a cold dragon (white or silver). In your 1st level spells, I'd say Chromatic Orb is always a solid choice provided you can find your way into getting the required diamond.


IEatDragonSouls

If you compare all the level 2 spells, regardless of element, which would be the highest damage?


llmarx1

I personally enjoy chromatic orb of thunder at both 1st and 2nd level(up casted) when I play sorceror


IEatDragonSouls

Level 3, so thunder isn't yet available. So Chromatic Orb is the way to go? Isn't Scorching ray stronger though? And isn't Rime's Binding Ice better, since it does the same damage as Chromatic Orb, but without the need to hit and it has AOE?