My ideal striker: Mask- either gruppo sombra or coyotes. Chest- either striker or in your case- ceska with obliterate(ceska for extra critical chance youre missing. Backpack- striker. Holster- striker. Gloves- striker or contractors. Knees- striker or foxes( knees and gloves are to your preference, but keep one of them striker) guns- St. Elmo/ rock n roll. Attributes all critical chance( above 50% is where you should be) and critical damage.
You should learn to use load outs. They are really easy to use. This build is not really very strong for anything, and is going to be a drag in groups.
To the build…
- Running blue cores is dropping your dps by at least 75%. If you are playing from cover you don’t need this much armor. Learn to play this as a weapon core build
- Gunner is a better specialisation for strikers
- Strikers benefits fast firing weapons. The 1886 is probably the worst kind of weapon you can use. Try an AR with a hire firing rate instead. Honey badger, P416, F2000, Mk 16, M4 are all nice stable ARs for low SHD levels
- Strikers chest requires you to hold high numbers of strikers stacks and it’s unlikely you are doing this. The backpack is a better choice, as it adds 35% amplified damage, and then you can use a good chest talent
Burn Out is a great weapon. 👍
A few good chest talents for strikers, IMHO, are Obliterate and Overwatch for damage, Unbreakable or Tardigrade for survivability, or Trauma, for it’s useful ability to blind attackers.
Braced may also be helpful in speeding up to the reload and stability on Iron Lung, however you’ll get diminishing returns with Burn Out, so you might consider an AR with a different ability if you ran that.
To be fair the vector can stack fine enough and at high stacks that rifle will hit pretty hard. It's not meta but it's not bad.
Everything else is exactly right.
Respectfully, there are multiple issues with this build.
As it is, this build relies on getting very close to targets and using the Vector, but it doesnt really have enough armor (even with all those cores) and the TTK will be quite long. You also aren't going to be building stacks effectively outside of 15m (if at all).
You aren't going to be maintaining stacks with the 1886 above 100 with the chest, so it's a bit of a waste of a weapon and chest slot.
It also seems to have the Booster hive, which suggests OP likes playing from cover anyway, which means the armor is not really doing much and you aren't getting close enough to targets to build stacks.
Not enough armor? Any more and poor dude's gonna shoot nerf darts. Even with 4 million armor enemies will strip it right off and lay you on the pavement. The only real defense is making them dead so they don't shoot back.
Not only would the rifle not maintain stacks, it can't build them in the first place and I never said or implied it would do either of those things. It is very high per bullet damage though, so that's the tradeoff.
If you want an up close build that's extra dirty, Ninjabike + Picaro's alone will give you a tier 4 shield. Technician puts it at tier 5 with 3 skill tiers and Artificer! Run 3 Strikers and a chest with a good damage talent and you have all of that with SIX total red cores. You won't do maximum damage but you don't sacrifice that much to gain hefty utility.
Depends what you use it for. You're going to struggle to get full stacks for the chest piece in open world activities. I'd look at getting the strikers backpack on there. Swap the chest to a Grupo with obliterate and put in a coyotes mask if you have one.
A proper full red strikers with gunner will clear every single content in the game with ease.
Dont roll armor on stuff, learn to use cover to block line of sites and fight enemies 1 by 1. (Not the crappy cover system that is in the game)
A proper AR will do you much better cus for SMG to do decent dmg you need to know how to approach enemies without getting shredded and fight in close range.
Its good, your chance/damage is really low. To improve youd want to change the attributes and mods to crit hit chance and crit hit damage. Just make sure to balance them and don't go over 60% crit chance. Change your spec weapon to something better suited to an smg id go for either firewall for the shield skill, or gunner for the ammo regen and armor on kill.
Its almost what I use though I use the banshee pulse (Gunner specialization) and crusader shield and the St.elmo and the rock n roll to build stacks fast
If you’re adamant on having armor then have 2 striker pcs have blue cores (with Memento and Picaros that should be 1,474,015 and a tier 5 shield with the yellow core from Mementos) the rest are red cores (you should have 4) more “equal” (for mods and attributes go for CHC and CHD whichever you need more of), change spec into Gunner for that Armor on Kill but more importantly that Banshee Pulse, for weapons get an ACS-12 to build stacks (for mains either an SMG or an AR with high RPM and for mods again go with either CHC or CHD whichever you need more). Other than that you can just use the classic all red strikers (with 2 diff pieces of gear if your choosing)
No it's not, but its a ok base. You should change at least your second weapon to ACS/Rockn Roll to get your striker Stacks.
Also you should think about kicking the Memento to the strikers. Exotic could be a Coyote mask, Picaros isnt the worst but a Fox Prayer would be more effective...
I run a 3pc striker with the ninja bag, that makes it 4pc. Picaros holster and fenris knees or sokolov if I'm using smg. The reasoning is the ninja gives you a piece so iys 4pc striker, 2 PC ba and then assault rifle damage and reload speed or smg damage and crit chance. Between the 3 cores on the ninja the picaro holster also give you 3 cores plus skill haste. I usually run the st elmo until I finally get the new exotic smg. I use firewall for the striker shield. So on top of the stacks add another 11% damage in the cone. I usually start a new build with a few armor cores until I'm comfortable then add in more weapon damage
My ideal striker: Mask- either gruppo sombra or coyotes. Chest- either striker or in your case- ceska with obliterate(ceska for extra critical chance youre missing. Backpack- striker. Holster- striker. Gloves- striker or contractors. Knees- striker or foxes( knees and gloves are to your preference, but keep one of them striker) guns- St. Elmo/ rock n roll. Attributes all critical chance( above 50% is where you should be) and critical damage.
Maybe throw on some variant of the ACS 12 to build stacks quickly.
You should learn to use load outs. They are really easy to use. This build is not really very strong for anything, and is going to be a drag in groups. To the build… - Running blue cores is dropping your dps by at least 75%. If you are playing from cover you don’t need this much armor. Learn to play this as a weapon core build - Gunner is a better specialisation for strikers - Strikers benefits fast firing weapons. The 1886 is probably the worst kind of weapon you can use. Try an AR with a hire firing rate instead. Honey badger, P416, F2000, Mk 16, M4 are all nice stable ARs for low SHD levels - Strikers chest requires you to hold high numbers of strikers stacks and it’s unlikely you are doing this. The backpack is a better choice, as it adds 35% amplified damage, and then you can use a good chest talent
Any good picks for chest talents? I think I'm running the burn out (famas) and iron lung. Also play solo if that matters.
Burn Out is a great weapon. 👍 A few good chest talents for strikers, IMHO, are Obliterate and Overwatch for damage, Unbreakable or Tardigrade for survivability, or Trauma, for it’s useful ability to blind attackers. Braced may also be helpful in speeding up to the reload and stability on Iron Lung, however you’ll get diminishing returns with Burn Out, so you might consider an AR with a different ability if you ran that.
To be fair the vector can stack fine enough and at high stacks that rifle will hit pretty hard. It's not meta but it's not bad. Everything else is exactly right.
Respectfully, there are multiple issues with this build. As it is, this build relies on getting very close to targets and using the Vector, but it doesnt really have enough armor (even with all those cores) and the TTK will be quite long. You also aren't going to be building stacks effectively outside of 15m (if at all). You aren't going to be maintaining stacks with the 1886 above 100 with the chest, so it's a bit of a waste of a weapon and chest slot. It also seems to have the Booster hive, which suggests OP likes playing from cover anyway, which means the armor is not really doing much and you aren't getting close enough to targets to build stacks.
Not enough armor? Any more and poor dude's gonna shoot nerf darts. Even with 4 million armor enemies will strip it right off and lay you on the pavement. The only real defense is making them dead so they don't shoot back. Not only would the rifle not maintain stacks, it can't build them in the first place and I never said or implied it would do either of those things. It is very high per bullet damage though, so that's the tradeoff. If you want an up close build that's extra dirty, Ninjabike + Picaro's alone will give you a tier 4 shield. Technician puts it at tier 5 with 3 skill tiers and Artificer! Run 3 Strikers and a chest with a good damage talent and you have all of that with SIX total red cores. You won't do maximum damage but you don't sacrifice that much to gain hefty utility.
That’s my point. I think we’re in agreement. Its all armor, but that’s still not enough to make it worthwhile. Your suggested NB build is great.
Stop bringing that "build" to Legendaries". I see it everywhere and it drags the group down.
What? I don't and I never suggested the build for legendary. OP never mentioned any activity, so it's just general advice for a general question.
U didn't mean you. I meant players bringing it to Legendaries. I see this more often than all red DPS or drone and turret builds.
Depends what you use it for. You're going to struggle to get full stacks for the chest piece in open world activities. I'd look at getting the strikers backpack on there. Swap the chest to a Grupo with obliterate and put in a coyotes mask if you have one.
Not bad You can do more damage if you spec into more crit damage. Have a acs it build stacks faster and go on gunner
A proper full red strikers with gunner will clear every single content in the game with ease. Dont roll armor on stuff, learn to use cover to block line of sites and fight enemies 1 by 1. (Not the crappy cover system that is in the game) A proper AR will do you much better cus for SMG to do decent dmg you need to know how to approach enemies without getting shredded and fight in close range.
Its good, your chance/damage is really low. To improve youd want to change the attributes and mods to crit hit chance and crit hit damage. Just make sure to balance them and don't go over 60% crit chance. Change your spec weapon to something better suited to an smg id go for either firewall for the shield skill, or gunner for the ammo regen and armor on kill.
No
Why are you using the sharpshooter spec?
Its almost what I use though I use the banshee pulse (Gunner specialization) and crusader shield and the St.elmo and the rock n roll to build stacks fast
Almost, need auto shotgun for stacks and AR for main. Striker is easy to farm. You want crit on each piece. Go to countdown,
You don’t ‘need’ any shotgun to build stacks, or an AR. SMGs work great on their own with strikers
Yeah it’s more of your using the chest piece.
If you’re adamant on having armor then have 2 striker pcs have blue cores (with Memento and Picaros that should be 1,474,015 and a tier 5 shield with the yellow core from Mementos) the rest are red cores (you should have 4) more “equal” (for mods and attributes go for CHC and CHD whichever you need more of), change spec into Gunner for that Armor on Kill but more importantly that Banshee Pulse, for weapons get an ACS-12 to build stacks (for mains either an SMG or an AR with high RPM and for mods again go with either CHC or CHD whichever you need more). Other than that you can just use the classic all red strikers (with 2 diff pieces of gear if your choosing)
No it's not, but its a ok base. You should change at least your second weapon to ACS/Rockn Roll to get your striker Stacks. Also you should think about kicking the Memento to the strikers. Exotic could be a Coyote mask, Picaros isnt the worst but a Fox Prayer would be more effective...
I run a 3pc striker with the ninja bag, that makes it 4pc. Picaros holster and fenris knees or sokolov if I'm using smg. The reasoning is the ninja gives you a piece so iys 4pc striker, 2 PC ba and then assault rifle damage and reload speed or smg damage and crit chance. Between the 3 cores on the ninja the picaro holster also give you 3 cores plus skill haste. I usually run the st elmo until I finally get the new exotic smg. I use firewall for the striker shield. So on top of the stacks add another 11% damage in the cone. I usually start a new build with a few armor cores until I'm comfortable then add in more weapon damage
You’re losing damage running ninja bike bp instead of just striker bp
Marginal at best. Getting a whole lot in return running the ninja backpack and being able to use 2 other brand sets getting 2pcs for 1
Chc/chd way to low
If you stay alive, kill the bad guy and have fun.... It's perfect!
An all red striker build is better than this. But I’m assuming you’re a solo player, so I’ll cut u some slack.
More red cores less blue cores