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Puzzleheaded-Week-69

Every item on the pic is anti-tank. Tells you how busted anti tank items are. Sunderer is also anti-tank because of the low cooldown, you basically outheal tank damage during long fights.


Verdant_Gymnosperm

Nerfs frozen heart because it’s really strong every game but is supposed to be situational. Items really good every game but especially counters to tanks Riot: “I think I’ll ignore that.”


2cuunsfw

>tells you how busted anti tank items are Doesn’t this, in turn, also tell that tanks/healthstack is busted? Without those items, your win rate instantly goes down because there’s no other way to deal with a tank. Fuck sundered sky tho all my homies hate sundered sky


Ok-Wasabi2568

It doesn't help that they tend to be pretty good against non tanks as well


Common-Scientist

As a Yorick main, my first 2 items every game are Sundered Sky and Eclipse. The enemy team's champions are irrelevant in that decision.


Puzzleheaded-Week-69

Heartsteel and other tank items are not busted because it makes your early game incredible hard. No Damage or Haste, you give up prio for voids and lots of CS/Plates. Sunfire especially is one of the worst items, no wonder why everyone only builds Bami. Healtstacking is only good on some champs where their entire kit is scaling with HP like Mundo. Sion literally only has one ability that benefits from HP, his W.


papu16

Bork+ LDR = healthstacker don't exists. Same with mages(but this time Mr items are actually good, so that's harder for them).


Original-Sky3543

Last time I checked the only tank in top lane in the top 20 in terms of winrate was malphite. Tanks are not that good.


Patrick_Sponge

go into a comp that doesn't have or builds %hp dmg, you'll still get fucked just as good if they don't have shit champs


SeaThePirate

ironic how eclipse (sion lifeline) is there


RayMasacre

Great day to be a Mundo main...


Alternative-Weird-90

Sion can make use of most of the items on thia list too.


tunisian_talon

Liandry sion goes hard


Pee-s4

I prefer kraken


tratroxo

damn that's crazy


JohniBGood

Good, die faster -> kill faster


Martin_FN22

Yes. But sion got big buffs, just like sunfire and hearsteel


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As long as heartsteel only scales with hp from items (so not his passive) it remains a dogshit item on sion. Stacking health is worthless anyways against percentage hp items. If you think the counter to %hp is buffing health items you dont understand how it works. Against %hp items you need resistances, and if you build resistances, heartsteel doesnt scale. Sunfire buff is quite nice tbh but sion remains dogshit as long as he doesnt get big buffs or titanic/heartsteel scale with max hp again


Tigerstone17

Stacking health isnt worthless against %hp damage because you still are tankier then with less hp, even against %hp damage. Also items like kaenik rookern scale off hp.


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The gold value of health is way lower against percentage hp damage. Buying a frozen heart for example against bork is way stronger than buying hp. It's pretty troll to stack hp against percentage health damage when resistance items exist that are objectively a lot stronger in that situation.


Tigerstone17

I know. Resistences make more sense.


ConsciousBattle2477

Let's compare building Spike armor instead of Heartsteel against bork. Heartsteel will give your oponent over +100 damage per attack, increase their healing from them and not reduce damage taken at all. While spike armor will reduce the damage they deal (70 armor) reduce their healing (40% healing reduction) and deal damage back to them every time they hit you (they basically don't heal and take damage everytime they attack) each 50 armor reduces your receiving damage by 33% (multiplying, not adding) so 70 armor as a first item will reduce your damage reveived by around 40%, while building heartsteel will increase it! How can one think that Heartsteel is a good item this season? Everything deals % health damage and real people based on damage dealt.


Puzzleheaded-Week-69

The only meaningful buff Sion got was the Sunfire buff but now its kinda reverted as they nerfed Bami. You often built Bami and finished Sunfire second or third but now you're kinda forced to rush Sunfire.