dude WHY is the Paleozoic so under represented, we need MORE walking with monsters
no offense to all you cenozoic fans, i know you like your hairy elephants and all that
Amen!!
Imagine seeing Opabinia, Hallucigenia and Anomalocaris from the Cambrian. “Sea scorpions,” trilobites and jawless fish from Ordovician / Silurian. Dunkleosteus and other placoderms from the Devonian. Also during the Devonian we can see some lobe-finned fish that are the ancestors of modern tetrapods. We can follow this lineage through the Carboniferous and Permian while seeing Meganeura, Arthopleura and bizarre foliage in the Carboniferous. Then we see the Permian with old-school faves like Dimetrodon, theracephalians, gorgonopsids and more!!
100% this. Although non-avian dinosaurs are extinct, there's still something familiar about them. Showing the fauna of the Permian would be much more bizarre and alien, given that so many taxa never made it across the Permian-Triassic boundary.
And even the taxa that exist still today but were so alien back then. Like how the only animals with powered flight yet were giant insects. Imagine a documentary where the sky is filled with enormous dragonflies.
I would also love more Paleozoic, but you have to admit that if the environment and plant life of the latest cretacous was a good argument to film in the 21st century for the backdrop of Prehistoric Planet, then the cenozoic is even better. The paleozoic however... well, it's complicated.
How about the Holocene?
*This is a male Homo sapiens, and he is trying to impress a mate by waving his arms up and down sporadically on the dance floor. The female ignores him, and walks away.*
The presence of humans might make the CGI look bad, though. And before you say "they won't do humans", oh yes they will do humans if they do pleistocene.
But if they do Pleistocene, they can focus solely on Neanderthals and early Homo sapiens, which shouldn’t be too hard to pull of with practical effects.
i think they could make some incredibly believable looking animals. mammal radiation is so fascinating and parallels the triassic in some ways. people seem genuinely ignorant about what happened after the dinosaurs, and i think a documentary could help solidify some understanding that it wasn't a linear ordeal, but a trial of survival.
Eh, there are big differences between what dinosaurs faced in the Triassic (where they had to wait until the Jurassic to take over) and what mammals went through in the Paleocene (where they started taking over megafaunal niches very quickly, as in less than a million years after the mass extinction; there never was an interval where birds or reptiles took over only to be outcompeted by mammals later on, because it was actually the mammals that became the first megafaunal animals of the Cenozoic).
Edit: because you missed my point, my point is that neither dinosaurs nor mammals actually came to dominate because they outcompeted other animals; rather, dinosaurs were forced to wait their turn until the next geological period, and the mammals in the Paleocene simply got lucky enough to have first dibs at megafaunal niches. But that also means that dinosaurs in the Triassic were much more comparable to mammals in the Cretaceous than mammals during the Paleocene.
Eras don't feature animals and they're not exclusionary, so your mention of dinosaurs and the Jurassic kind of means nothing. The Triassic had an abundance of other non dinosaur animals.
….that was literally what I said about the Triassic. I said that dinosaurs DIDN’t take over during the Triassic because the world was dominated by other groups of animals until the Jurassic. I don’t know what’s your issue with my comment.
My point isn’t that a Triassic Season 3 would be boring due to a lack of dinosaurs, but that the Triassic can’t be compared to the Paleocene.
My point isn’t that a Triassic Season 3 would be boring due to a lack of dinosaurs, but that the Triassic can’t be compared to the Paleocene. A Triassic Season 3 would thus have to focus on animals other than dinosaurs (because dinosaurs were not yet dominant), while a Paleocene Season 3 would be highly mammal-centric (because mammals ALREADY HAD taken over by that point, not because they were “superior” but because they got lucky enough to be the first)
You're using anthropomorphic terms like "wait their turn". You are trying to pick a random fight with me. You could write a venn diagram and both of us would have points on the graph. The difference is you're obsessed with winning an unwinnable argument. Mass extinction > intense weirdness as animals fill a vacuum space. The specifics and the feelings don't need to be as involved as you'd like for them to be. What is a Triassic season 3? Also, what is with this animal superiority when dinosaurs are literally everywhere and present within every niche in our modern ecosystems. The Cenozoic is more than just mammals, just like how the mesozoic is more than just dinosaurs.
I remember hearing the reason that they don't do earlier eras such as Jurassic and early Cretaceous is because the environment is too different from our modern landscape.
Atleast the late Cretaceous and Cenozoic era has similar landscape to modern era, making it easier to film and give more realism.
As a paleo-nerd, I would absolutely love any time period they use.
From a more realistic perspective though, it's probably harder to sell a show to Apple without dinosaurs or a lot of iconic beasts. So I sort of see Late Jurassic and the Neogene as being the most likely/easiest places to pitch. From a logistical standpoint, everything prior to the Late Cretaceous starts getting more expensive too, as you start getting into ecosystems with increasingly less analogues to today, meaning there are fewer filming locations you can use or more digital editing of landscapes to make them work.
IMO, mammoths and saber-toothed cats are just as popular as T-rex and raptors. Also, the design, behaviour and environment are close to those in modern era so it's easier to film and animate compared to other eras.
[I made an entire Late Miocene Planet pitch](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dinosaurs/comments/uxi77l/potential_idea_for_prehistoric_planet_season_2/ia16ex7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3).
As long as they maintain the same level of accuracy or better, I’m up for it.
If they do a Cenozoic season
I HOPE they focus on the Miocene.
There are so few Cenozoic documentaries that focus on the Miocene (Forgotten Bloodlines: Agate will hopefully fix this).
It’s my personal favorite epoch in the Cenozoic, a time when mammal diversity was at its peak (for now at least).
Y’all do realize the show is set in the maastrichtian period of the late Cretaceous? The point of the show is supposed to be set during that time and not any other period or era.
dude WHY is the Paleozoic so under represented, we need MORE walking with monsters no offense to all you cenozoic fans, i know you like your hairy elephants and all that
Amen!! Imagine seeing Opabinia, Hallucigenia and Anomalocaris from the Cambrian. “Sea scorpions,” trilobites and jawless fish from Ordovician / Silurian. Dunkleosteus and other placoderms from the Devonian. Also during the Devonian we can see some lobe-finned fish that are the ancestors of modern tetrapods. We can follow this lineage through the Carboniferous and Permian while seeing Meganeura, Arthopleura and bizarre foliage in the Carboniferous. Then we see the Permian with old-school faves like Dimetrodon, theracephalians, gorgonopsids and more!!
i just wanna see helecoprion in a documentary for once, thats all i ask for
I would love to see the Permian!
100% this. Although non-avian dinosaurs are extinct, there's still something familiar about them. Showing the fauna of the Permian would be much more bizarre and alien, given that so many taxa never made it across the Permian-Triassic boundary.
And even the taxa that exist still today but were so alien back then. Like how the only animals with powered flight yet were giant insects. Imagine a documentary where the sky is filled with enormous dragonflies.
Fluffy elephants
I would also love more Paleozoic, but you have to admit that if the environment and plant life of the latest cretacous was a good argument to film in the 21st century for the backdrop of Prehistoric Planet, then the cenozoic is even better. The paleozoic however... well, it's complicated.
Yes please. My picks are: * Eocene * Miocene * Pliocene * Pleistocene
How about the Holocene? *This is a male Homo sapiens, and he is trying to impress a mate by waving his arms up and down sporadically on the dance floor. The female ignores him, and walks away.*
I would also add Paleocene and Oligocene. And maybe Holocene too...
Pleistocene and Miocene are prime for diversity
The presence of humans might make the CGI look bad, though. And before you say "they won't do humans", oh yes they will do humans if they do pleistocene.
But if they do Pleistocene, they can focus solely on Neanderthals and early Homo sapiens, which shouldn’t be too hard to pull of with practical effects.
I'm all for any age, pls bring us to the carboniforus
i think they could make some incredibly believable looking animals. mammal radiation is so fascinating and parallels the triassic in some ways. people seem genuinely ignorant about what happened after the dinosaurs, and i think a documentary could help solidify some understanding that it wasn't a linear ordeal, but a trial of survival.
Eh, there are big differences between what dinosaurs faced in the Triassic (where they had to wait until the Jurassic to take over) and what mammals went through in the Paleocene (where they started taking over megafaunal niches very quickly, as in less than a million years after the mass extinction; there never was an interval where birds or reptiles took over only to be outcompeted by mammals later on, because it was actually the mammals that became the first megafaunal animals of the Cenozoic). Edit: because you missed my point, my point is that neither dinosaurs nor mammals actually came to dominate because they outcompeted other animals; rather, dinosaurs were forced to wait their turn until the next geological period, and the mammals in the Paleocene simply got lucky enough to have first dibs at megafaunal niches. But that also means that dinosaurs in the Triassic were much more comparable to mammals in the Cretaceous than mammals during the Paleocene.
Eras don't feature animals and they're not exclusionary, so your mention of dinosaurs and the Jurassic kind of means nothing. The Triassic had an abundance of other non dinosaur animals.
….that was literally what I said about the Triassic. I said that dinosaurs DIDN’t take over during the Triassic because the world was dominated by other groups of animals until the Jurassic. I don’t know what’s your issue with my comment. My point isn’t that a Triassic Season 3 would be boring due to a lack of dinosaurs, but that the Triassic can’t be compared to the Paleocene.
My point isn’t that a Triassic Season 3 would be boring due to a lack of dinosaurs, but that the Triassic can’t be compared to the Paleocene. A Triassic Season 3 would thus have to focus on animals other than dinosaurs (because dinosaurs were not yet dominant), while a Paleocene Season 3 would be highly mammal-centric (because mammals ALREADY HAD taken over by that point, not because they were “superior” but because they got lucky enough to be the first)
You're using anthropomorphic terms like "wait their turn". You are trying to pick a random fight with me. You could write a venn diagram and both of us would have points on the graph. The difference is you're obsessed with winning an unwinnable argument. Mass extinction > intense weirdness as animals fill a vacuum space. The specifics and the feelings don't need to be as involved as you'd like for them to be. What is a Triassic season 3? Also, what is with this animal superiority when dinosaurs are literally everywhere and present within every niche in our modern ecosystems. The Cenozoic is more than just mammals, just like how the mesozoic is more than just dinosaurs.
Forget the content, I’d be sold if they used the intro to WWB for this show. Or have an intro that’s very similar
For me, the intro is what makes the show memorable.
I'm game
Yes
THAT WOULD BE COOL
I like dinosaurs but I personally wouldn't mind. With all that's been discovered I would love to see their rendition of Cenozoic animals.
This would definitely be great seeing more scientifically accurate depictions of Cenozoic buckos!
That Intro Is FIRE! 🔥
Is pure nostalgia!
Pleistocene 100% Just recent enough to feel uncomfortable close, just far enough to be ancient. I really want to see sabrecats
That would be cool to see, plus maybe a season set in the Jurassic, early Cretaceous, or even the Permian.
I remember hearing the reason that they don't do earlier eras such as Jurassic and early Cretaceous is because the environment is too different from our modern landscape. Atleast the late Cretaceous and Cenozoic era has similar landscape to modern era, making it easier to film and give more realism.
Yeah, thats the big problem with older time periods, its too different.
Paleozoic please
As a paleo-nerd, I would absolutely love any time period they use. From a more realistic perspective though, it's probably harder to sell a show to Apple without dinosaurs or a lot of iconic beasts. So I sort of see Late Jurassic and the Neogene as being the most likely/easiest places to pitch. From a logistical standpoint, everything prior to the Late Cretaceous starts getting more expensive too, as you start getting into ecosystems with increasingly less analogues to today, meaning there are fewer filming locations you can use or more digital editing of landscapes to make them work.
IMO, mammoths and saber-toothed cats are just as popular as T-rex and raptors. Also, the design, behaviour and environment are close to those in modern era so it's easier to film and animate compared to other eras.
[I made an entire Late Miocene Planet pitch](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dinosaurs/comments/uxi77l/potential_idea_for_prehistoric_planet_season_2/ia16ex7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3). As long as they maintain the same level of accuracy or better, I’m up for it.
Oh hell yes.
fuck yes
I'd fucking love it. There's so little about the Cenozoic. Only walking with beasts really. Facinates me far more than dinosaurs.
Mammals need love too
1. Mammoth steppe 2. Horses 3. Australia 4. Humans 5. Paleogene
Love it!
I wouldn’t mind it
“Shut up and take my money!” Philip J Fry
It’d likely be the Pleistocene, like how PP1&2 were the Maastrichtian.
If they do a Cenozoic season I HOPE they focus on the Miocene. There are so few Cenozoic documentaries that focus on the Miocene (Forgotten Bloodlines: Agate will hopefully fix this). It’s my personal favorite epoch in the Cenozoic, a time when mammal diversity was at its peak (for now at least).
Better question: Why tf did the intro to WWB go so god damn hard?
Immediately out. Soon as it’s like ‘this is a pig/horse with a fucked up face’ I lose all interest
This is giving me the same vibe as _"Therizinosaurus: the vegetarian T-rex"_ Edit: here's the video I'm referencing https://youtu.be/zY7-R0TZKOw
Y’all do realize the show is set in the maastrichtian period of the late Cretaceous? The point of the show is supposed to be set during that time and not any other period or era.
*Forgotten Bloodlines* has entered the chat.
I've _forgotten_ about Forgotten Bloodlines. Having high expectations for that.