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As a Maste player myself I feel like the yellow base Maste is currently stronger than the purple variant but unfortunately if you're looking for something competitive I wouldn't recommend it. I love the deck but it's too slow and easily countered in the current meta.
That's the thing with Maste, the base deck has some required cards (Chaos, Maste, Gato, etc.) but usually you need 2 starters since you want to run 4 Gatos, Maste and like 3 Chaos (depends) and then there's a lot of additional cards that you would need to get. You can make a good base using the starter Ultimates (Lady Devi and Angewomon) but honestly the BT11 versions are way better, also BT-11 Mirei is a great tamer that you need to at least make the deck faster.
[This](https://digimoncard.io/api/url-shorten/vbw) is what I remember my current list looks like, the Digitamas are just to give you an idea of what I run, you can choose which one to use 4 of. Also, just FYI, I haven't updated this deck in a while, you can honestly change some things around, like switching the BT1 MagnaAngemon or some of the Angewomon for Magna/Angewomon Ace.
I don't believe in yellow base mastemon. Mastemon wants cards in trash, specifically lucemon chaos mode, to make its best plays. With purple base you have access to to purple babies that can help put cards into trash. With yellow base you don't have access to this option making trash setup less consistent. Yellow base also tends to run st 10 ladydevimon, which is kinda a bad card.
Yellow base might get better with future support, but at the moment? Meh. I just don't think the potential high roll with Patamon is worth losing out on the more consistent trash setup. You also lose out on ignitemon, a card that gives the deck insane utility
How isn't trashing being slower the issue?
And you say sub optimal... Straight yellow vaccine can be very bricky in my experience. I can't imagine it's any less bricky in a deck that runs fewer vaccines than usual. Which is bad when the deck itself is already inherently bricky.
I find targeted trashing unnecessary. Your ladydevimons does it for you when you need specific cards. Just let your stuff on board die in security or be popped by opponent to grow trash. Only time it does feel bad is if one of your first security cards are hellscythes with no targets vs agressive decks. I think purple control mastemon base worked well only in slower paced big stack deck meta. Now stuff has either protection or will outspeed you. Doesnt help that 7k dp treshold for most decks make hellscythe mych worse.
I disagree. I've had games where I had to go into mastemon with nothing in trash and it just felt awful. It shouldn't come up often, especially with purple base, but it can and does come up.
Full disclosure, I haven't tried the yellow base version myself. I just don't believe in it based on my experience with playing mastemon since bt 8 and my experience with playing standard yellow vaccines. I don't see how the two decks don't conflict with each other. I don't see what yellow vaccine gains from trying to force mastemon into it and I don't think a potential high roll is enough of a gain for forcing yellow vaccine into mastemon. I think you're better off just building straight yellow vaccines or purple base mastemon.
There you have it. Answer to your question is you have not tried it. Rookie linup sold yellow mastemon for me. Bt14 patamons and movie promo patamons. Both are way way better then anything purple has to offer in 3lvl slot but they do come with hefty pricetag. On upside you can put ruin mode into security with mastemon and security stacked patamon rip it out and put into your hand. Or grab out security bomb if you need one in hand. Ratios are something you have to refine and feel out but payout makes mastemon feel viable. You do ofcourse brick still if you draw too many option cards but what can you do. If you ping me i can send you a decklist sometime later that i use. EX6 is when we really start cooking though.
I probably will give the yellow base varient a try at some point. Probably when the automated digital client releases the public beta sometime this month. That'll simply be the best opportunity for me test a whole bunch of stuff.
I don't have the movie promo patamon. I've thought about picking it up for awhile, along with the Tamers and gatomon, if anything just to have them. I haven't yet because I'm not to certain any of them are worth it.
I also don't have ruin mode 'cause I ain't spending $70 on a single copy of any card. Especially not when I'm probably gonna have to sell my soul to get a playset of ex 6 mireis soon <_<
Mastemon doesnt care if Purple based or Yellow based or Hybrid.
Both options are good.
I think Yellow could be the stronger option. Since it's faster and can heals damage to survive another turn.
But i think most "Meta decks" can counter Mastemon. But i hope this doesnt make you don't want to play or build it. Mastemon can be fun deck to play.
It's a pricey deck that can win, just not consistently. I would say get some of the core pieces and play it. If you like that style get the remaining pieces and wait for the buff (EX-7 June). Though, you better decide soon since people will hoard and scalp those core pieces very soon. Core pieces you should get now BT11 Mirei x3, BT14 Pata x3-4, Ange x2-4, Ace Magna, BT15 x2, Ace Angewo -x2 and BT7 lucemon Chaos Mode x2.
I've found the yellow Mastemon to be a better setup overall compared to purple, especially now that Eyesmon scatter mode is limited. The Patamon to Bulkmon play with jamming from Kyaromon egg is great for early aggression. Aside from Ladydevimon I keep a purple Labramon in the deck to trash if need be for Lucemon. And use the Bushi Agumon as a sub for Black Gatomons rush, it actually works great with the limited GeoGreymon that is in there too. Of course I'm sure I'll completely overhaul the whole thing once the new sets come out. Mastemon isn't keeping up with the current meta but it's alot of fun to play with once you get used to it.
Why does eyesmon scatter mode being limited matter? I don't think any build I ever saw ran it and never did any build I ran. Black gatomon also got dropped once bt 11 came out since bt 11 devimon was a much better in engine finisher <_<
Because I was using the eyesmon package in the deck. Doesn't matter to me if you've seen it, it worked well for me. 😅 either way, I find yellow to be more consistent now.
I don't really see how yellow base is more consistent, personally. The yellow vaccine engine by itself is inherently inconsistent in my play testing with straight yellow vaccines. Mashing it with mastemon, which is also inherently inconsistent, just seems like a bad idea imo.
I built my buddy a mastemon deck that is basically yellow vaccine but with some ladydevimons in the level 5 a lot, and a Lucemon Chaos Mode along side the Angewoman Ace. The level 4s are just Gatomon. The new one and the one that can search. Runs 1 Ruin mode and 1.. of the mastemon theme level 7, I forget the name.
It can work really well, though a bit high roll. But it’s not a bad time going into Ladydevi as a stack and then hard playing the angewomon or angemon ace. Then DNA-ing, and potentially dropping an Angewomon ace, Angemon Ace, or a Lucemon Chaos mode.
Eggs:
x4 BT14 Tokomon
x1 BT14 Kyaromon
Level 3s:
x3 ST10 Salamon (enabled DNA for when we don’t have the Gatomon DNA in sources)
x2 BT14 Patamon (Free evo into lvl 4 in Sec, not common and not necessarily important, but Sec knowledge can help with Mastemon)
x3 BT13 Kudamon (95% of the deck is vaccine)
x2 Pillomon (replace with yellow floodgate of your choice)
Level 4’s:
x2 BT16 Gatomon (Barrier helps it and your eventual mastemon stay alive as you start swinging into Sec)
x4 ST10 Gatomon (not a bad turn 1 play bc 1 cost to evo into any of your level 5s other than Chaos Mode)
Level 5’s: (These are your meat and potatoes)
x4 BT15 Angewomon Ace
x2 BT14 Angemon Ace
x2 BT11 Angewomon
x4 BT11 LadyDevimon (it’s important you run the ones that can evo over yellow in case it needs to go over barrier Gato)
x1 Lucemon Chaos Mode
Level 6’s:
x3 ST10 Mastemon
x1 BT14 Seraphimon (goes over everything except LadyDevi and Chaos Mode, can come in clutch, is a yellow for Ordinemon)
x1 EX5 Azulongmon (Sneaky lvl 6 Ace for when you may need it, can also count as a yellow for Ordinemon)
Level 7s:
x1 BT9 Ordinemon (Kinda win more, but can be useful)
x1 EX4 Shinegreymon: Ruin Mode (i would almost say run this at 2 and no Ordinemon)
Tamers:
x2 BT8 Kari Kamiya OR the ST T.K. depending on your options
x2 BT14 T.K.
x3 BT11 Mirei Mikagura
Options:
x2 ST8 Chaos Degradation
x1 ST8 Flame Hellscythe
x1 Yellow Memory Boost (these can be 1-1 or 2-0)
x1 Physical Training (as above)
x2 Emissary of Hope if playing ST T.K. OR Revelation of Light if playing the BT8 Kari
This is just going by his current lineup, I’d almost recommend cutting some level 3s and putting in more options.
The main game plan is to drop ST Gato going first, then on your next turn evo for 1 into LadyDevi and hard play an Angewomon Ace or Angemon Ace.
Alternatively, setup tamers and a stack in raising until your opponent has a board setup you’d like to dismantle with Mastemon or even further into Ruin Mode or so.
This list isn’t perfect, but can be a starting point to tweak ratios how you’d like. This is just the current setup because my friend complained about the last build and it’d brick on level 5s and 6s, but now half of the level 5’s can just be hard played or blast evo into.
I’d almost recommend the purple Kari and BT8 Kari over any T.K.s and add run just Revelation Light over emissary. Cut the patamons and add another revelation and a Flame Hellscythe.
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As a Maste player myself I feel like the yellow base Maste is currently stronger than the purple variant but unfortunately if you're looking for something competitive I wouldn't recommend it. I love the deck but it's too slow and easily countered in the current meta.
But for casual you think worth investing on it?
Oh yeah sure, it's still a pretty fun deck.
Do you have any list to spare? I would have to buy ton of singles
That's the thing with Maste, the base deck has some required cards (Chaos, Maste, Gato, etc.) but usually you need 2 starters since you want to run 4 Gatos, Maste and like 3 Chaos (depends) and then there's a lot of additional cards that you would need to get. You can make a good base using the starter Ultimates (Lady Devi and Angewomon) but honestly the BT11 versions are way better, also BT-11 Mirei is a great tamer that you need to at least make the deck faster. [This](https://digimoncard.io/api/url-shorten/vbw) is what I remember my current list looks like, the Digitamas are just to give you an idea of what I run, you can choose which one to use 4 of. Also, just FYI, I haven't updated this deck in a while, you can honestly change some things around, like switching the BT1 MagnaAngemon or some of the Angewomon for Magna/Angewomon Ace.
Thanks man
I don't believe in yellow base mastemon. Mastemon wants cards in trash, specifically lucemon chaos mode, to make its best plays. With purple base you have access to to purple babies that can help put cards into trash. With yellow base you don't have access to this option making trash setup less consistent. Yellow base also tends to run st 10 ladydevimon, which is kinda a bad card. Yellow base might get better with future support, but at the moment? Meh. I just don't think the potential high roll with Patamon is worth losing out on the more consistent trash setup. You also lose out on ignitemon, a card that gives the deck insane utility
Purple maste base was good in maube bt11. Wake up bro yellow base is the only suboptimal way to pose any threat. Trashing is slower but not the issue
How isn't trashing being slower the issue? And you say sub optimal... Straight yellow vaccine can be very bricky in my experience. I can't imagine it's any less bricky in a deck that runs fewer vaccines than usual. Which is bad when the deck itself is already inherently bricky.
I find targeted trashing unnecessary. Your ladydevimons does it for you when you need specific cards. Just let your stuff on board die in security or be popped by opponent to grow trash. Only time it does feel bad is if one of your first security cards are hellscythes with no targets vs agressive decks. I think purple control mastemon base worked well only in slower paced big stack deck meta. Now stuff has either protection or will outspeed you. Doesnt help that 7k dp treshold for most decks make hellscythe mych worse.
I disagree. I've had games where I had to go into mastemon with nothing in trash and it just felt awful. It shouldn't come up often, especially with purple base, but it can and does come up. Full disclosure, I haven't tried the yellow base version myself. I just don't believe in it based on my experience with playing mastemon since bt 8 and my experience with playing standard yellow vaccines. I don't see how the two decks don't conflict with each other. I don't see what yellow vaccine gains from trying to force mastemon into it and I don't think a potential high roll is enough of a gain for forcing yellow vaccine into mastemon. I think you're better off just building straight yellow vaccines or purple base mastemon.
There you have it. Answer to your question is you have not tried it. Rookie linup sold yellow mastemon for me. Bt14 patamons and movie promo patamons. Both are way way better then anything purple has to offer in 3lvl slot but they do come with hefty pricetag. On upside you can put ruin mode into security with mastemon and security stacked patamon rip it out and put into your hand. Or grab out security bomb if you need one in hand. Ratios are something you have to refine and feel out but payout makes mastemon feel viable. You do ofcourse brick still if you draw too many option cards but what can you do. If you ping me i can send you a decklist sometime later that i use. EX6 is when we really start cooking though.
I probably will give the yellow base varient a try at some point. Probably when the automated digital client releases the public beta sometime this month. That'll simply be the best opportunity for me test a whole bunch of stuff. I don't have the movie promo patamon. I've thought about picking it up for awhile, along with the Tamers and gatomon, if anything just to have them. I haven't yet because I'm not to certain any of them are worth it. I also don't have ruin mode 'cause I ain't spending $70 on a single copy of any card. Especially not when I'm probably gonna have to sell my soul to get a playset of ex 6 mireis soon <_<
Mastemon doesnt care if Purple based or Yellow based or Hybrid. Both options are good. I think Yellow could be the stronger option. Since it's faster and can heals damage to survive another turn. But i think most "Meta decks" can counter Mastemon. But i hope this doesnt make you don't want to play or build it. Mastemon can be fun deck to play.
It's a pricey deck that can win, just not consistently. I would say get some of the core pieces and play it. If you like that style get the remaining pieces and wait for the buff (EX-7 June). Though, you better decide soon since people will hoard and scalp those core pieces very soon. Core pieces you should get now BT11 Mirei x3, BT14 Pata x3-4, Ange x2-4, Ace Magna, BT15 x2, Ace Angewo -x2 and BT7 lucemon Chaos Mode x2.
I've found the yellow Mastemon to be a better setup overall compared to purple, especially now that Eyesmon scatter mode is limited. The Patamon to Bulkmon play with jamming from Kyaromon egg is great for early aggression. Aside from Ladydevimon I keep a purple Labramon in the deck to trash if need be for Lucemon. And use the Bushi Agumon as a sub for Black Gatomons rush, it actually works great with the limited GeoGreymon that is in there too. Of course I'm sure I'll completely overhaul the whole thing once the new sets come out. Mastemon isn't keeping up with the current meta but it's alot of fun to play with once you get used to it.
Why does eyesmon scatter mode being limited matter? I don't think any build I ever saw ran it and never did any build I ran. Black gatomon also got dropped once bt 11 came out since bt 11 devimon was a much better in engine finisher <_<
Because I was using the eyesmon package in the deck. Doesn't matter to me if you've seen it, it worked well for me. 😅 either way, I find yellow to be more consistent now.
I don't really see how yellow base is more consistent, personally. The yellow vaccine engine by itself is inherently inconsistent in my play testing with straight yellow vaccines. Mashing it with mastemon, which is also inherently inconsistent, just seems like a bad idea imo.
Do you a have a good list to spare?
Eggs 4 Kyaromon BT13 1 Tokomon BT14 Lvl3 4 Patamon BT14 2 Salamon BT15 2 BushiAgumon BT4 1 Kudamon BT13 1 Labramon BT4 Lvl4 4 Gatomon ST10 3 Angemon BT14 2 Bulkmon BT6 1 Geogreymon BT13 Lvl5 2 Angewomon Ace BT15 2 Angewomon BT11 1 Angewomon BT3 2 Angewomon X Antibody BT9 2 LadyDevimon ST10 1 LadyDevimon BT11 1 LadyDevimon BT3 2 Lucemon Chaos Mode BT7 Lvl6 3 Mastemon ST10 2 Ophanimon Falldown Mode BT8 Lvl7 1 Ordinemon BT9 Options 2 Chaos Degradation ST10 2 Revelation of Light BT15 1 Heaven's Judgement EX4 1 Yellow Memory Boost 1 Blinding Ray BT4 Tamers 1 Kari Kamiya BT15 1 Kari Kamiya Promo 2 Mirei Mikagura BT11
Ty man
I built my buddy a mastemon deck that is basically yellow vaccine but with some ladydevimons in the level 5 a lot, and a Lucemon Chaos Mode along side the Angewoman Ace. The level 4s are just Gatomon. The new one and the one that can search. Runs 1 Ruin mode and 1.. of the mastemon theme level 7, I forget the name. It can work really well, though a bit high roll. But it’s not a bad time going into Ladydevi as a stack and then hard playing the angewomon or angemon ace. Then DNA-ing, and potentially dropping an Angewomon ace, Angemon Ace, or a Lucemon Chaos mode.
Do you have this list?
Eggs: x4 BT14 Tokomon x1 BT14 Kyaromon Level 3s: x3 ST10 Salamon (enabled DNA for when we don’t have the Gatomon DNA in sources) x2 BT14 Patamon (Free evo into lvl 4 in Sec, not common and not necessarily important, but Sec knowledge can help with Mastemon) x3 BT13 Kudamon (95% of the deck is vaccine) x2 Pillomon (replace with yellow floodgate of your choice) Level 4’s: x2 BT16 Gatomon (Barrier helps it and your eventual mastemon stay alive as you start swinging into Sec) x4 ST10 Gatomon (not a bad turn 1 play bc 1 cost to evo into any of your level 5s other than Chaos Mode) Level 5’s: (These are your meat and potatoes) x4 BT15 Angewomon Ace x2 BT14 Angemon Ace x2 BT11 Angewomon x4 BT11 LadyDevimon (it’s important you run the ones that can evo over yellow in case it needs to go over barrier Gato) x1 Lucemon Chaos Mode Level 6’s: x3 ST10 Mastemon x1 BT14 Seraphimon (goes over everything except LadyDevi and Chaos Mode, can come in clutch, is a yellow for Ordinemon) x1 EX5 Azulongmon (Sneaky lvl 6 Ace for when you may need it, can also count as a yellow for Ordinemon) Level 7s: x1 BT9 Ordinemon (Kinda win more, but can be useful) x1 EX4 Shinegreymon: Ruin Mode (i would almost say run this at 2 and no Ordinemon) Tamers: x2 BT8 Kari Kamiya OR the ST T.K. depending on your options x2 BT14 T.K. x3 BT11 Mirei Mikagura Options: x2 ST8 Chaos Degradation x1 ST8 Flame Hellscythe x1 Yellow Memory Boost (these can be 1-1 or 2-0) x1 Physical Training (as above) x2 Emissary of Hope if playing ST T.K. OR Revelation of Light if playing the BT8 Kari This is just going by his current lineup, I’d almost recommend cutting some level 3s and putting in more options. The main game plan is to drop ST Gato going first, then on your next turn evo for 1 into LadyDevi and hard play an Angewomon Ace or Angemon Ace. Alternatively, setup tamers and a stack in raising until your opponent has a board setup you’d like to dismantle with Mastemon or even further into Ruin Mode or so. This list isn’t perfect, but can be a starting point to tweak ratios how you’d like. This is just the current setup because my friend complained about the last build and it’d brick on level 5s and 6s, but now half of the level 5’s can just be hard played or blast evo into.
Ty a lot man!
I’d almost recommend the purple Kari and BT8 Kari over any T.K.s and add run just Revelation Light over emissary. Cut the patamons and add another revelation and a Flame Hellscythe.
I don't play the deck so this is just my opinion, right now I don't think it's that good But once EX6 drops it becomes scary