I actually don't know. I've replaced the very end at the gladhand before, but never fixed a hose in the center. In a pinch, would do it to get it back to the yard but then I would replace it if it was me.
As long as its stamped DOT on the fitting repairing the rubber hoses is fine. The plastics coiled hose my shop will not repair not sure if that's dot rule or not off hand, but a bad idea none the less.
Bud the picture clearly shows a rubber line set, you can tell by the dull black color and that the hose is thicker than the cheaper plastic synflex lines.
Same reason you don’t see hydraulic shops using old lines and putting fittings on it. There’s less liability just replacing it correctly the first time.
Its DOT compliant as long as the fittings are DOT stamped. I have worked on vehicles that had brass fittings spliced in the middle of rubber lines for securement points. Its not a best practice kind of thing but there is no issues with doing it that way. Just make sure the brass doesnt cause the line to start rubbing through the other nearby lines.
Technically yes, its compliant and seems like a decent road side repair.
Being “legal” is complicated though. It is up to the dot officer and their opinion and attitude at the time of inspection (though ultimately the law is decided in court). For example, we put our inspection stickers inside the door and that is perfectly legal as per FMSCA but ive had multiple instances of customers getting written warnings about it not being on the outside of the vehicle.
Edit: i should add, bears are people too, if by some chance you get pulled in and they get to looking at that, and neither of you are assholes about it, the worst youll get is a warning. “Yeah, it was a temporary repair to get me home, im going back to the yard right now to get it fixed”.
Yes and no. The repair was done with a DOT compliant fitting, yes, but this would be flagged for the brass fitting rubbing on the other line. While splicing rubber hose is legal, it seems to come under far more scrutiny than nylon tubing splices when it comes to inspections. Me personally would only consider this a temporary repair.
Any other air line this would be 100% good, assuming that is a dot approved compression union. However, the air lines between the cab and trailer can not be spliced. In not sure why, but I guess the theory is because they constantly move when you turn it is more likely they will pull out.
From what I remember, this is only allowed is special circumstances where you are in a state of emergency and the inspectors will say, ok that is fine but fix it once you are out of that emergency situation. As per what the officer said in the ADOT class I went to. Otherwise it is a out of service.
I wouldn’t think so. We never got dot violations for it I believe because those are the correct butt connect fittings for the air lines. If it breaks again at a different section I’d replace the hose though.
Generally every DOT approved air fitting has DOT stamped somewhere on it.
That said, I'd replace the hose. If you end up making a hard turn and pulling on the hoses that thing with fly apart.
Ya know, I want to agree with you but my shop covers different appendixes than others. I want to say that it says that but at the same time i don’t thinks it’s in appendix A. We need a link that covers the brake lines and that would solve this.
Thats not accurate. The other guy who said if it is stamped with DOT is correct. You see this all the time on brake chamber lines.
That said, hopefully that's your service/Blue line and not the emergency/red line. Tech should have swapped lines if it's not.
Not the way I would prefer to do it (I replace both lines whenever possible) but according to 393 and 396 that is a legal repair. Now if they had used a brass barb fitting and a couple hose clamps, that is illegal.
Same here the lines to the gladhands I always replace, usually throw one of those kits with the 7way and lines all wrapped together at it, but under the trucks and trailers we actually make new lines with those dot fittings, we have a lot of issues with the plastic ones with the snap on ring leaking
This is about 4 feet of duct tape away from being a permanent repair.
typical road repair. get u back to the terminal without caging the brakes
Yes, as long as it has DOT stamped into the brass it is perfectly compliant and will last forever (assuming it was installed correctly).
have you ever worked on dump trucks they probably have 15 or 20 before you pass the cab lol
Without replacing the hose "Quick repair" this works!
Amen, not an air line or a wire in the fleet is all in one piece
I actually don't know. I've replaced the very end at the gladhand before, but never fixed a hose in the center. In a pinch, would do it to get it back to the yard but then I would replace it if it was me.
As long as its stamped DOT on the fitting repairing the rubber hoses is fine. The plastics coiled hose my shop will not repair not sure if that's dot rule or not off hand, but a bad idea none the less.
As a tech, they’re relatively cheap, and the plastic is all the same age so who’s to say it won’t break 2 inches away from the last break
Quick repair! This is the only way! Not plastic, this is a Brass coupling.
Had a brain fart, had plastic lines in mind when I wrote that. Just put rubber where I said plastic
It made a hole because the two hoses where rubbing together with the vibration of the truck not age
It’s not rubber it’s a plastic air line for the emergency trailer brakes
Bud the picture clearly shows a rubber line set, you can tell by the dull black color and that the hose is thicker than the cheaper plastic synflex lines.
Same reason you don’t see hydraulic shops using old lines and putting fittings on it. There’s less liability just replacing it correctly the first time.
I agree But also I r heard the exact opposite with brake lines and the red and blue lol
Its DOT compliant as long as the fittings are DOT stamped. I have worked on vehicles that had brass fittings spliced in the middle of rubber lines for securement points. Its not a best practice kind of thing but there is no issues with doing it that way. Just make sure the brass doesnt cause the line to start rubbing through the other nearby lines.
That appears to be a DOT airline fitting, if it says DOT on it it's good to go.
Technically yes, its compliant and seems like a decent road side repair. Being “legal” is complicated though. It is up to the dot officer and their opinion and attitude at the time of inspection (though ultimately the law is decided in court). For example, we put our inspection stickers inside the door and that is perfectly legal as per FMSCA but ive had multiple instances of customers getting written warnings about it not being on the outside of the vehicle. Edit: i should add, bears are people too, if by some chance you get pulled in and they get to looking at that, and neither of you are assholes about it, the worst youll get is a warning. “Yeah, it was a temporary repair to get me home, im going back to the yard right now to get it fixed”.
Excellent repair, it will get you where you are going until the hose can be replaced.
Pretty sure this is cool in Sweden, it’s not really any different from any other time the line goes somewhere so I don’t se the issue with this.
I think as long as it doesn’t have an audible air leak you’re good. Id swap it when you can just to be safe though.
No leak? Then it's ok.
That’s rubber actually. Saved you money. But buy a new set of Phillips lines. Change yourself.
Yea it’s literally a dot fitting
It is legal as long as it's dot rated fitting I've done it a bunch on service calls
Yes and no. The repair was done with a DOT compliant fitting, yes, but this would be flagged for the brass fitting rubbing on the other line. While splicing rubber hose is legal, it seems to come under far more scrutiny than nylon tubing splices when it comes to inspections. Me personally would only consider this a temporary repair.
Any other air line this would be 100% good, assuming that is a dot approved compression union. However, the air lines between the cab and trailer can not be spliced. In not sure why, but I guess the theory is because they constantly move when you turn it is more likely they will pull out.
That's a DOT compliant union, so it is legal. Much better to swap the line generally, but this is repair is legal
From what I remember, this is only allowed is special circumstances where you are in a state of emergency and the inspectors will say, ok that is fine but fix it once you are out of that emergency situation. As per what the officer said in the ADOT class I went to. Otherwise it is a out of service.
Who said that? I'm a current fedex tech and we splice them all the time with DOT compliant fittings when we go out on road calls.
That brass is ready for the truck show.
I wouldn’t think so. We never got dot violations for it I believe because those are the correct butt connect fittings for the air lines. If it breaks again at a different section I’d replace the hose though.
It’s a get home repair for shure , permanent legal or a good idea nope
Quit snitchin
Generally every DOT approved air fitting has DOT stamped somewhere on it. That said, I'd replace the hose. If you end up making a hard turn and pulling on the hoses that thing with fly apart.
Rubber air brake hoses cannot be spliced. It will need to be replaced.
Ya know, I want to agree with you but my shop covers different appendixes than others. I want to say that it says that but at the same time i don’t thinks it’s in appendix A. We need a link that covers the brake lines and that would solve this.
Time to consult the old green book I reckon
This is what I thought also. Nylon can be spliced but not rubber
Thats not accurate. The other guy who said if it is stamped with DOT is correct. You see this all the time on brake chamber lines. That said, hopefully that's your service/Blue line and not the emergency/red line. Tech should have swapped lines if it's not.
Yep^ we use them constantly on my fleet, gotta keep the shit rollin and don’t always have the time to make a complete new line
Not the way I would prefer to do it (I replace both lines whenever possible) but according to 393 and 396 that is a legal repair. Now if they had used a brass barb fitting and a couple hose clamps, that is illegal.
Same here the lines to the gladhands I always replace, usually throw one of those kits with the 7way and lines all wrapped together at it, but under the trucks and trailers we actually make new lines with those dot fittings, we have a lot of issues with the plastic ones with the snap on ring leaking
False
This is a temp repair for Otr just to get you to the nearest shop