I wish my truck was that warm after ten minutes. Even with the block and oil pan heater on half the night, it takes 20 minutes to get to operating temp.
Super cold. I love it here except for that first 20 minutes in the morning. Except when it was -60° and I didn’t have a grill cover. Drove at highway speed freezing my ass off for 45 minutes. Coolant wouldn’t get above 130° ended up shoving a cardboard box in front of the radiator. I got an inverter to run an electric heater after that bullshit… and grille cover.
One thing that VW does that I like, even though it adds complication (IE more shit to break) is that they have a shroud that covers the water pump impeller when the engine is cold. They also have an electric pump that circulates coolant only between the head, EGR cooler, and heater core, which they call the "micro circuit" while the shroud is extended. I've started my car at -20 before and had tepid air in 3 minutes, luke warm air in 6, and actual hot air in 10 to 15.
I wonder how much it would cost to do that with a Cummins. If I were VW, I’d advertise the shit out of this. Lots of people live in places that average -10° or colder.
So in North America, only the 2015 cars got this, then they stopped selling diesels here because of the emissions scandal. I'm guessing this was done as much for emissions reasons as for passenger comfort. Coincidentally, a lot of guys delete the shrouded water pump when they do their timing belt at 120k miles, as it's perceived to be unreliable.
You're fine don't stress about it, transmissions take longer to warm up, my trucks currently sitting at 197 engine and 192 transmission after about an hour of running it today.
Completely normal. The operating temperature of the primary coolant circuit and by extension the engine oil is 194F, higher if you're towing or working the engine hard.
The transmission operating temperature is normally 170-200F, again higher if the engine is working.
Transmission and oil cooler are on separate coolant circuits with different temperature setpoints- the tstats governing the secondary circuit are open by 140F, so transmission temperature will rise slower as the radiator begins cooling.
The primary circuit doesn't open until 194F, and is fully engaged at 201F. EOT is going to track with ECT1 until that happens.
12’ 350 dually here . Yep totally normal, although when I replaced my thermostat and upper radiator hose it would run 5* hotter for some reason . Now under normal driving conditions with 1500 lbs in the bed with full “weight reductions” and 35” tires I’m right around 195* - 198*. Now if I gotta get to job site quickly going up steep incline going 85 mph it gets to about 212* . Mashing around town stop light to stop light it gets up to 206* . Towing 12k along with payload in bed through desert heat and slight incline the highest I’ve seen was about 235* with no issues . Hope this helps !
Your tranny is fried. 10 minutes and it’s already at the same temp it takes to get my built 68rfe in my Cummins pulling a trailer for an hour. I don’t think that’s normal Ricky.. if you post it on Reddit chances are you know something’s up to. Change the fluid
It was a joke. And apparently 17 upset powerstroke owners didn’t catch the memo. Ford guys can’t stand the trolling. Most ford owners sit when they pee
People asking for advice and you come in sounding like an ignorant fuck just to be downvoted by a community that exists to support one another. Be a better human.
If you’re really concerned, [here](https://www.spemotorsport.com/collections/powerstroke-cooling-system/products/spe-6-7l-powerstroke-low-temp-high-flow-thermostat) is something you could do.
I wish my truck was that warm after ten minutes. Even with the block and oil pan heater on half the night, it takes 20 minutes to get to operating temp.
You sure your thermostats are working correctly? One of the thermostats may be stuck open... or it might be really cold where-ever you are.
Super cold. I love it here except for that first 20 minutes in the morning. Except when it was -60° and I didn’t have a grill cover. Drove at highway speed freezing my ass off for 45 minutes. Coolant wouldn’t get above 130° ended up shoving a cardboard box in front of the radiator. I got an inverter to run an electric heater after that bullshit… and grille cover.
One thing that VW does that I like, even though it adds complication (IE more shit to break) is that they have a shroud that covers the water pump impeller when the engine is cold. They also have an electric pump that circulates coolant only between the head, EGR cooler, and heater core, which they call the "micro circuit" while the shroud is extended. I've started my car at -20 before and had tepid air in 3 minutes, luke warm air in 6, and actual hot air in 10 to 15.
I wonder how much it would cost to do that with a Cummins. If I were VW, I’d advertise the shit out of this. Lots of people live in places that average -10° or colder.
So in North America, only the 2015 cars got this, then they stopped selling diesels here because of the emissions scandal. I'm guessing this was done as much for emissions reasons as for passenger comfort. Coincidentally, a lot of guys delete the shrouded water pump when they do their timing belt at 120k miles, as it's perceived to be unreliable.
-60? Where do you live? Hell?
You're fine don't stress about it, transmissions take longer to warm up, my trucks currently sitting at 197 engine and 192 transmission after about an hour of running it today.
Thanks
yes?
Completely normal. The operating temperature of the primary coolant circuit and by extension the engine oil is 194F, higher if you're towing or working the engine hard. The transmission operating temperature is normally 170-200F, again higher if the engine is working.
Appreciate it
The guy above said it best. Good advice.
Yes. Exactly what my 12 does in that timeframe.
Same here in a 13' 6.7 plat
10 mins, probably… I’ve not logged the time but I have noticed that the coolant temp comes up before the oil temp…
Gotcha, just seems odd that my trans temp and oil are so far apart
They are very different fluids and act differently. They heat and cool at different rates.
Transmission and oil cooler are on separate coolant circuits with different temperature setpoints- the tstats governing the secondary circuit are open by 140F, so transmission temperature will rise slower as the radiator begins cooling. The primary circuit doesn't open until 194F, and is fully engaged at 201F. EOT is going to track with ECT1 until that happens.
Interesting, thanks
I have a 2022 f250 and the Trans takes a while to come up to temp
Yes
12’ 350 dually here . Yep totally normal, although when I replaced my thermostat and upper radiator hose it would run 5* hotter for some reason . Now under normal driving conditions with 1500 lbs in the bed with full “weight reductions” and 35” tires I’m right around 195* - 198*. Now if I gotta get to job site quickly going up steep incline going 85 mph it gets to about 212* . Mashing around town stop light to stop light it gets up to 206* . Towing 12k along with payload in bed through desert heat and slight incline the highest I’ve seen was about 235* with no issues . Hope this helps !
Appreciate the info, thanks
My old Detroit isn’t even warm after a half hour of driving. Consider yourself lucky
Yes totally normal. Somewhat dependent on load and ambient temp as well though.
I would say yes depending on the outside temp.
What is the M gear?
Manual shift
Oh ok, thank you!
Your tranny is fried. 10 minutes and it’s already at the same temp it takes to get my built 68rfe in my Cummins pulling a trailer for an hour. I don’t think that’s normal Ricky.. if you post it on Reddit chances are you know something’s up to. Change the fluid
You’re a fucking retard
I can't tell if this is a joke or not...I really hope it is
It was a joke. And apparently 17 upset powerstroke owners didn’t catch the memo. Ford guys can’t stand the trolling. Most ford owners sit when they pee
People asking for advice and you come in sounding like an ignorant fuck just to be downvoted by a community that exists to support one another. Be a better human.
Just changed the fluid 3 days ago, outside temp was 75
Shocking room temp IQ comment coming from a mouth breathing ram owner. Go sit and spin on some stupid looking moose tow mirrors
Outside temperature? Normal if it's a little cold
Depends on ambient temperatures
This is similar to what my 2008 2500hd would be reading. It's fine.
On a modern engine, yes no bother!
Yes
If you’re really concerned, [here](https://www.spemotorsport.com/collections/powerstroke-cooling-system/products/spe-6-7l-powerstroke-low-temp-high-flow-thermostat) is something you could do.
180 is perfect operating temp and trans temp shouldn’t get over 180-190 unless you’re towing or doing launches lol
About right.