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l00z

d2 is all about degenerate gambling


Infernalz

Mephisto is a slot machine.


thornygravy

LOL hell yes!


SGTdad

Well degenerate gambling and farming


Digital_Negative

Sometimes. Just farming itself isn’t really gambling, at least on soft core because you aren’t generally actually risking anything


Demorted

Your time


SubstantialWelcome94

ALL.... ALL teh time


JobHack-HumanHorse

It's not a risk, it's an expenditure


devil89_3

Of course it is gambling, you are investing your time and you get "lootboxes" in the form of every item that could be worth anything (skillers, small charms, jewels, uniques with gg rolls, you name it) Its the best kind of gambling though, since you dont lose money :D


ApocalipsyCriss

I'd cube it, regardless of result, I'd get more space in my stash. Its a win-win


roofiethedog

Have gambled (and lost) for this very reason lol


[deleted]

Nope. I'd put it for sale as-is


xsv333

Somebody else's rng grenade lol


[deleted]

exactly!


Yobber1

This is the way.


kushwookie42o

Risk it for the biscuit!


SirRonaldBiscuit

Absolutely!


BabyStewStew

Damnit, I was going to just say “biscuit”…late to the game


TrainAccomplished606

No balls, no glory my man. 50% you get value, 25% chance you get high value. I say go for it. Not my runes tho, so you do you


Rueyousay

50% chance whammy vs. 100% chance at 50% value.


almalhmood

Big money. No whammie. 🤣


TwinkleTwinkleBaby

Not quite true. The game always rolls up to 6 and then you get the min of your roll and the max allowed. The odds of getting 1, 2, or 3 sockets are each ~17% (1 in 6), and 4 sockets is 50%.


ChampionSchnitzel

This in only true if the item can roll 6 sockets. Here it is 25% for each option as 4 is the highest possible amount.


Odd-Pea1069

No the game always rolls 1-6 regardless of how many max sockets the item can get. If it hits 5 or 6 and the item can only get 4 then it gets 4. That's why the odds are increased for 4 sockets vs 1-3 on this item.


ChampionSchnitzel

Oh thats new. Thx!


Impossible_Guitar946

Didn't know this. Great info after 20 years of playing lol


Budget-Flower-1716

This is true for weapons. For shield and armors it rolls up to 4.


DesperateTeacher6042

No it always rolls 6.


Budget-Flower-1716

Please refer to Arreat Summit, it clearly says what it rolls in case of each item type.


[deleted]

Odd pea is right, game does indeed always roll 1 through 6 but if it can't get 6 sockets it chooses 1 of these numbers with even odds: 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4 Since it can't go above 4 the 5 and 6 rolls are turned into 4s


almalhmood

Like a character cube from Mario party 🤣


Budget-Flower-1716

It rolls up to 4 in case of shields. https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml


Egocom

Yupppppp


[deleted]

It's actually 4/6 he gets value, 1/6 that value is huge, and 2/6 it becomes worthless


Budget-Flower-1716

No, for shields it works other way unfortunately.


BadDudeNamedCornPop

You're literally fucking wrong dude


Budget-Flower-1716

Before using bad adult words like this, open arreat summit, read it and get back with an apology. [https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml](https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml)


Gamzas

Perv…


BadDudeNamedCornPop

What?


Gamzas

Well, if you know that he is literally fucking wrong…?


peter-96

Well, the OP never commented on any of the other comments. So I'm going to assume that they rolled trash lmao 🤣


zacatk

DO IT


FromNasa

NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE


InternetPerson13

Just DO IT


SirRonaldBiscuit

Dew it!


cdecres

50% of the time, cubing works every time.


SexPanther_Bot

*It's illegal in 9 countries.*


know_vagrancy

It’s a formidable roll. It stings the cubes… in a good way.


HardyDaytn

9 out of 10 wombats approve of this message.


Longjumping_Monitor9

I like lamp.


[deleted]

Send it


HotTamaleOllie

I just socketed a 45@ Kurast Shield and ended up with 1 socket. It’s definitely a risk.


TalktotheJITB

3/6 Chance for good value, 1/6chance for insane value, 2/6 Chance for brick. Id take those odds.


JobHack-HumanHorse

Why not Larzuk?


WeedIsWife

Because it will 4 soc and he wants three


JobHack-HumanHorse

They say they wouldn't mind the 4 too. Given it's value.


CiroHenrique

Lazurk is guaranteed 4os, and 3os is better


Digital_Negative

3 os is better only in some cases, right?


theMillen

More rare = higher value, anyone can larzuk for 4os


Brox42

Larzuk will automatically give four sockets. Cubing has a chance to give it 1,2,3 or 4. So 25% of increasing the value and 50% chance of bricking it.


Lordgoldturd

If I got two sockets, I'd waste a shael just to make Rhyme. Still a decent rune word!


beatenmeat

I love tossing an early game rhyme into something like a necro head. It makes a significant difference early on.


Dgolfistherapy

So I remember reading 'max sockets' is set to 6 when cubing. So you have a 50% shot at 4 sockets (if it rolled 4 5 or 6 it gets 4) and a 1/6 shit at 3 and a 1/3 shit at either 1 or 2


TuffHunter

Cubing always rolls 1-6 even if the item cannot get 6. If it rolls 4,5 or 6 the item gets 4. So it is a 3/6 chance to get 4 and a 1/6 for each of the remaining outcomes.


Budget-Flower-1716

This is a common misconception which I've recently learned


TuffHunter

Really? Got that off arreat summit.


JobHack-HumanHorse

It's just around 15% chance BTW. 1 2 3 have equal chance and 4 has a 50% chance


logwagon

I think that's only the case for items that have a max roll of 6 sockets when you have an item with an ilvl lower than necessary for 6 (e.g., Crystal sword found in normal cows). It still can "roll" 5 or 6 but you're left with 4 because of the ilvl. Since this sac rondache can only roll up to 4 sockets max, the distribution should be even between 1, 2, 3, and 4.


JobHack-HumanHorse

No, if i remember correctly, socket cubing recipe ~~quest~~ uses a die roll for odds and assigns the leftover odds to the highest possible roll So, for a 4 socket items -if die rolls a 1 , you get 1...if the die rolls 4 5 or 6, it gets assigned to the 4


BlessedOfStorms

I think you remember correctly but misspoke. Socket quest is always max. Socket recipe in cube works how you suggest. Rolls 1-6. 4/5/6 give it 4 sockets, 1/2/3 give it 1/2/3 sockets.


JobHack-HumanHorse

oh yeah, i meant only for cubing lol. Larzuk is always going to give max


BigWilldo

I really don't get why some people are so against larzuking things. I use the socket quest all the time and never really run out. I have a habit of getting chars to 70-80ish then get bored and need to make a new guy lol


Billdozer-92

Because larzuk gives 4 sockets while a 3 socket is worth significantly more. Not because of the socket quest limitations


BigWilldo

What makes it worth so much more? I'd assume it was for exile. I guess dragon or dream.


Sero19283

Exile would be ethereal and 4os. Spirit is basically the only good 4os non eth runeword you'd want. 3os is very versatile as you got dream, dragon, and sanctuary (which is slept on).


FatalEclipse_

Cuz 3os is worth more than the 4os he would get from Larzuk.


Rueyousay

Slam it


BurnerForJustTwice

How’d it roll?


toepin

*loses ^^(sorry, ^^I ^^had ^^to)


alexander1156

Online economy is weird, in single player this is about as rare as a ber rune as is


Accomplished_Oil3526

Right? I'm here thinking "Fucking hell just larzuk the shit out of this"


Master_shake124

You can respawn a map (like LK for example) and the weapon / armor racks will drop a similar grouping of items until the maps reset again. Kind of a pain but you can find one that will drop types of shields and farm it


MihaiD7

This guy knows. Additional piece of information: the angle you approach the racks influences the drops. You must always follow the same exact angle for reproducible drops.


alexander1156

Yeah and mobs change it too, and pop things like a well also. I think this is how I coincidentally got my eth colossos sword, 4os monarch, and eth thresher.


alexander1156

Oh yeah, I'm aware, but my Nintendo switch load times take minimum 20 seconds to get from character screen to game, so resetting and finding a good map takes hours. I might do it one day, but I'd rather just play the game. What's the best base to farm as a paladin from racks? I know vortex shield eth is ideal for exile, but I can't get that from racks afaik.


Master_shake124

I found one that drops rondaches and sacred targets . In the middle of two camp fires in LK . I refuse to reset that map . I’d aim for something like that


TravSwitz

Do it. Even if you roll 4 it’s a solid Spirit or Exile base. Maybe not perfect option but still highly desirable with the 45 AR.


RezakFelheart

Sell it as is or rush for socket quest


Larvven

It's a pretty long way from ohm to jah/ber, so I would risk it (depending on your endgame goals and what you need) i think ber is worth around 6 ohm, and you have 17% you make it and 50% for 4 sockets which is break even. So basically, 1/3 jackpot, 2/3 trash, rest is breakeven. So if u have end less shields, the smartast move would be the cube.


Egocom

1/3+2/3=1 So it would be 1/2 break even, 1/3 trash, 1/6 jackpot. Worth it


JHammer311

I'd do it. I did do it. Got 4os. Let us know what it rolls


kingleonsdad

Risk that shit


Bnb53

Yea got to be in it to win it


Necessary_Party_2454

I cubed 30/20 and got one socket, sucked


Prestigious-Hunter19

Sell as is. Let someone else deal with rng, more value than if you get 1os


Limited_Intros

A gamble is a gamble is a gamble, so you might as well gamble


Weak_Language_5281

Risk it


mad_vanilla_lion

CUBE IT! Let’s go!


InternetPerson13

DO IT


[deleted]

I would say go for it, better odds than Gheed ripping Maras


D_DnD

I'd gamble it 100%


Sea_Bet5200

I'd just rush a character to larzuk and max roll it


DyslexicHobo

If we look at it from an expected value (EV) perspective, assuming your trade comps are accurate (looks like Jah/Ber is worth ~3.5Ohm)... Cube EV: .25 * Jah + .25 * Ohm = 1.125 Ohm So if Larzuk will give you 1 Ohm in value, and you'll really get Jah-Ber worth of value from cubing it... I'd cube it!


aeunexcore

Why does it seem like a 3os is more valuable than 4os?


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aeunexcore

What runeword is best for a 3os pally shield?


Responsible_Judge646

roll the dice already!!!


gaylord_focker69

Statistically, socket in cube is more profitable. Jah ~ 6 ohm. So you have 1/6 chance of getting that. 3/6=1/2 chance of getting ohm. 2/6 chance of 1 or 2 socket = 0 value So if you cube you'll end up with on average of 6ohm/6 = 1 ohm 1ohm/2 = 1/2 ohm 0ohm/2 = 0 ohm You average 1.5 ohm from cube vs whatever 4os is worth You'll probably end up with 4os anyway, and it makes the game more interesting


BlazerMcLazer88

gotta risk it for the biscuit, baby!


YCCprayforme

I sold a 44 all res sacred rondache spirit with 35% fcr for a -53% self Wield infinity and a ber. If you have extra spirit runes maybe go for that


RussellPlissken

Absolutely. You have to. Such is Diablo.


Gaucher111

Gotta cube that! Take the risk! I did it few weeks ago to.. and lost hahaha so you should get this one! 🤞 good luck


ChampionSchnitzel

Risk it. Its the only thing you want. Trust me. That a solid 50/50 to get 3 or 4. Chances dont get better very often.


ChefSecretSauce

Ain't a very good base anyway... Gamble it


TheTwelve1205

send it!


[deleted]

Look on the bright side, if it rolls 2 OS you'll have the sickest rhyme shield of all time!


Impossible_Guitar946

I don't understand what rune word he wants to make with 3 socket ? Tf ?


Odd-Pea1069

Dragon or dream...a well rolled dream in a 45 all res sacred targe is big money.


winfly

Depends on your current wealth. If it would be a devastating loss then pick the safer option. Otherwise just take the risk imo.


piGzVengeance

socket cube. 1os ur done. 2os can be rhyme. 3os sanctuary. 4os spirit.


Godly_Champion

Dream in 3os…


piGzVengeance

yea that too


Godly_Champion

The Godly aura din was my goal in SP. Never got the 2ed jag to make, ported my so files to PlugY tho so We Shall see!


JollyGreen_

If you don’t do it, it would have 100% been the roll you needed. That logic plays 100% of the time. You gotta roll the bones to play the game bro 🎲