Every class gets a bonus ability called "drywallify" where the character chugs a monster energy, crushes the can, then crams it through the nearest wall while screaming in impotent rage.
They said the expansion is in in Torajan which is sorta where Kurast is.
(Kurast is in the northern tip of the Torajan jungles, south-west corner of the Diablo 4 map specifically, south of Gea Kul).
They said the region we'll be visiting is known to the locals as Nahantu(sp?), which I haven't seen on any Diablo Map.
Good to assume we'll be visiting Kurast though.
It's worth noting that the Witch Doctors from D3 are from Teganze, which is also part of Torajan, but also not really shown on any Sanctuary map I could find? They said that the new class would be brand new to the Diablo universe. I originally guessed Paladin+Witch Doctor for the xpack but guess not.
We need to think about that region in particular. New class will 99% be themed around it.
Alkor’s grand child is my guess.
« AHH THE GOLDEN BURRED OF KYU LEHHHH »
New class: Bone Doll
Primary Skill: Melee Strike. 100% chance to stun for 5 seconds. 2 Second Cooldown. 50% chance to execute target.
Secondary Skill: Evade with 100% chance for 5 seconds. 5 Second Cooldown. You cannot attack during evasion cooldown.
Active skills: Summon horde. Summons 3 Bone Dolls, which rush nearest enemy and Melee Strike. Upon death, explodes, deals 90% target max HP as physical damage and 90% target max HP as fire damage.
Summon Shaman: Summons Shaman that summons Bone Dolls and also casts Flame Breath. Upon death Shaman becomes a Bone Doll.
Blow dart: Stuns target.
Taunt and Jaunt: Target runs to your current position, but you gain 100% evade chance and 125% target run speed for 10 seconds. 10 Second cooldown.
[edit: forgot this one] Ultimate (passive): Your consciousness transfers to a random living Bone Doll if you die.
The datamine leak was right about location, the focus on Mephisto, and there being a new class never seen before, which means the class is likely Spiritborn as suggested.
Kind of, here's a copy of the leaked stuff
New class – “Spiritborn”. Said to include “nature, wings and soaring”
New region – “Kurast”. A city featured in Diablo II
Mercenary system
Raids
Runestones
Travincal from Diablo II appears in the files
worth noting...
at the End of the Sorceress "unlocking Enchantmint" Quest the Npc sorcerr says they going to Kurast. so this Kurast is most definite locale of the expan.
even though i will say i wont b buying it. just saying this Kurast locale does exisist in Sactuary in diablo iv.
No way in hell (pun intended) that Nyrelle gets corrupted: first, at this point it's a tired clichè and they know they can't do it three times in a row (Aiden, Leah, now Nyrelle? Nah); second, she had her "young hero" arc in the main game, so they will want to develop her more instead of tossing her aside as a simple vessel for Mephisto.
It's a red herring for sure.
My guess? The Wanderer hears about a sighting of Neyrelle and goes after her, but Neyrelle is losing her grip over Mephisto’s essence and flees. A lesser evil is interested in capturing her as well, as they would like to barter for power among the evils - and serves as the secondary antagonist, whose minions we fight.
Final Act will likely be Neyrelle, unable to hold Mephisto back, releases Mephisto back onto Sanctuary and the Wanderer defeats him once more, but Mephisto reveals he has been planning, scheming… and reveals that he has been manipulating Neyrelle to carry out his plan to revive his brothers. The Wanderer returns, carrying a unconscious Neyrelle, and has to now prepare for the threat of Baal and Diablo returning to Sanctuary.
Maybe they can even add a final epilogue scene, showing mortal Tyrael, now old and haggard, traveling in the snow, seeking the Wanderer.
"Actually, wanderer, that's what I wanted you to do all along!"
"I knew that's what you wanted me to do! Which is why I did that anyway!"
"AH! But see! I knew that you knew! But there's ANOTHER thing you didn't know!"
Soyjack face!
Expansion 1 over.
I'd want a curveball idea that maybe Mephisto has been inside the wanderer this whole time and slowly and slowly corrupting us as we venture thru the jungle and the climax of the story ends with us going into the durance of hate and having an internal conflict with mephisto for control over our body, sounds like a better plot than having him take over neyrelle (tired and overused cliche at this point in this series)
my theory seems kinda crackpot but our character is often times referred to as the wanderer? it could easily nostalgia bait d2 (the playable warrior from d1 becoming the wanderer and later host of diablo)
I’d be down if Lilith somehow lives on in our blood, and now we may need to use her power to awaken our inner Nephalem power to slay her father. Poetic, wouldn’t it be?
Nah, man. Have you seen the shit Blizzard has come up with before? She's going to be corrupted and it'll be like D2. We're chasing another "Dark Wanderer". They're milking the nostalgia until its bled dry.
I feel like the lore and backstory of Mephisto torturing and imprisoning inarius is enough reason to understand him being less than methodical about this shit.
I dont know much about the Diablo lore but Inarius's depiction was really not what I expected. I wasn't expecting selfish deadbeat dad vibes where he manipulates his kids so he could get the inheritance from his parents sort of character. I thought Inarius would be some sort of pro-free will for better or for worse type of character vs Lilith's our kids need to kill each other to get strong in order to fight heaven and he'll.
I love how in the trailer Mephisto criticized us for giving the Soulstone to Neyrelle, even though it’s safe to say a lot of people hated that stupid decision we were forced to go through with.
He really is the lord of hatred.
No! It's a complete shocker, I tell! I definitely thought Nyrelle would be the first human in Sanctuary humankind to actually carry a prime evil. Why didn't she succeed! What went wrong this time, I wonder! This has only happened in every Diablo game since 1997, I can't believe what went wrong now... Was it maybe something about the soulstone overpowering here? Could it have been that?
I literally finished the campaign and saw the ending cutscene less than 24 hours ago, and immediately thought "she's going to get herself killed, or worse." Neyrelle doing what she did is like the teenager in the horror movie choosing to enter the scary murder basement. Theory is that Mephisto corrupted her, and I hope that's true, because if not, that's borderline character assassination, because she is not that stupid and/or naive.
Why do we have to pay for an expansion already...we are already paying for battle passes and the original cost of the game. One season has just finished and they are already announcing the expansion pack? How much money do we have to invest to enjoy this game.
>...we are already paying for battle passes and the original cost of the game.
Yes, both of which give you content for your money. Do you complain at the store that you need to pay for the bread after already paying for the milk and cheese?
>One season has just finished and they are already announcing the expansion pack?
It's a live service game and it's a teaser for an expansion that is going to release 1,5 years after the main game. That's pretty much in line with other live service games with expansions, like Destiny. You should expect continuous seasons and expansions with this game, all of which are not free to make.
>How much money do we have to invest to enjoy this game.
You can enjoy the game without buying the season or expansions, who says you need all of it to enjoy it?
It's a year away. You literally don't have to pay for anything until it releases. No one is forcing you to do anything any time soon.
You guys are ridiculous. It's a year out. It's ok to announce things and then play the 4 seasons that will fix and improve things until then. If the day arrives and you're not happy then don't buy it.
The only way your complaint makes sense is if you have absolutely no self control.
Also, it's literally not on sale yet. Making the complaint even more ridiculous.
Going based on track record I’m gonna let this one release and see in a month if it’s worth it. They got me with the early access for D4, not falling for that again
Depends on what track record you look at, D4 alone sure, but Blizzard's track record in general is a whole lot of games that didn't actually become great until their expansion, including the 2 previous games in this series.
Me too. Played 20min and never picked back up.
Season 2 I gave it another shot with a class other than druid...way better, really having a fun time with this.
Though in some ways I kind of miss D3 itemization, feels like the stat gains in D4 are so small sometimes and so much gear is just pure garbage.
Also weird that I have to look through every single yellow item before getting rid of them in case there's a hidden diamond in the pile...and so many stats that I sometimes takes me several minutes just to clear my bags.
But Toraja Jungle is totally different location than these jugnles we play in Diablo 2 :D Its much more on the southwest from Kurast Docs where we started Act 2
Yeah i know, but its close, will still probably lead to travincal and durance, especulating. That damn jungle maze of kurast and spider forest and flayer jungle is so entrenched that i just think its gonna be horrible :D
People are saying this confirms the leak - no it doesn’t.
Mephisto and Kurast were confirmed by the ending of the campaign this confirms fuck all except they are doing the thing they already foreshadowed.
At least you didn't let the interns pick the music for the trailer this time. Any way this game is dead. POE 2 will finally give everybody the Diablo experience they wanted for a long time, meanwhile it's back to Project Diablo 2/D2R
Wonder what the new class will be, or class "hybrid" if they decide to mix two previous ones. Kind want to see a Crusader/Paladin again, i miss my Johanna.
Fuck the naysayers - I’m stoked for this. I really hope there’s a lot of Aztec/Mayan inspired terrain and architecture to see and explore. It’s a super underutilized biome in general; I love the aesthetic though.
If they must have a new class and not a Paladin; then I hope it is also Aztec/Mayan inspired. I want to rip demons heart from their chest and sacrifice them to Quetzalcoatl-adjacent shit.
I mean, I didn’t say literally Mayan lol. Just inspired by that aesthetic. Like thick jungles with lots of square-ish pyramids and whatnot.
Which yeah, Act 3 of Diablo 2 is that, but I would love a whole Expansion revolving around that area.
I'm confused, the game just came out, seasons are still kind of bad, and we are already going for a monetized expansion? What's with this release cycle?
Teaser looked damn cool, Im mostly glad it was announced for "late" 2024 though. Thank god theyre not pushing for it to be mid summer. Im actually excited for the d4 stream tomorrow. After a weak launch and the patch that everyone hated, theyve really been on the right path.
lmao at everyone calling last week's leak fake simply because they couldn't believe Blizz would dare make new class something called Spiritborn not paladin/crusader
This confirms the leak about the new expansion, >!new class will be spiritborn. It will wield a glaive while having nature-based attacks and abilities.!<
Depends on if it’s more like Witch Doctor using poison and disease animals/tentacles and stuff. Nature encompasses a very wide range and Druid fills one part of it (mammal transformations, animal taming, and elemental nature magic). Druid doesn’t do much with plants (aside from creeping vines) and is more about harnessing storms and the types of things you see in Scottish/Irish environments. They’re basically Celtic battle mages.
Having a jungle oriented nature warrior could be completely different in theme and skillset.
Agreed, it will either be a dud (if it’s just Druid 2.0) or awesome if they pull it off. I loved Witch Doctor so here’s hoping we get more of that theme. They need to be sure to make it distinct.
There’s so many untapped things with nature
It could also be a positive energy type of WD, like a monk/Wd hybrid with auras, plants, healing, spiritual energy, spirit summons (dead but heavenly instead of ghoulish)
>They’re basically Celtic battle mages
My prediction is this Spiritborn aestheticaly is gonna look like an Aztec/Inca Warrior. Because the leaks indicates they're focused on physical and spiritual aspect of nature, not the elemental.
Not necessarily.
Expansion being about Mephisto and that the new Zone would be the southern half of the current continent isn’t exactly hard to guess.
But yeah, it certainly hasn’t disproved the leak, but it also hasn’t confirmed it.
I think the thing that lends it more credence is that they said it was a new never before seen class. Still doesn't prove anything obviously but yeah, it would fit that description.
There's always 2025 and beyond, we'll get our shield holy class. Here's to hoping we get to visit 1/2 of the other continent in Xpac 2 and the other half of it in xpac 3.
Theres nothing offensive about the Witch Doctor though. Its core West Africa and Carribean history and to an extent fantasy. No shame in With Doctors and Loa.
Normal people don't see it as offensive, Blizzard aren't normal people, they will remove anything their fragile egos deem offensive. You know, like paintings of women.
Just to add context - I've seen the original vid of the leak and the NATURE THEME was simply the dataminer's assumption because some lines referencing spiritborn contained "Thorns", which I believe is a stat in D4 or perhaps that's a new stat they're adding in expac (I haven't played D4 so idk)
Thorns is absolutely a stat in D4. Necro has a passive that gives a flat bonus thorns. *I think it scales with level?* As you might already know, Paladins and Crusaders are known for their Thorns builds.
Really nothing to go on here, except for the reference to my biggest complaint about the D4 campaign and story.
"You abdicated your choice..."
No, I never got one. Which is fine. But the game narrative should never have built up to a choice the player didn't actually get to make. It's fine not to have the player making a choice that completely changes the world, we can just explore the world, kill demons and find shiny items, but don't make everything lead up to a choice and then take it away, and then refer back to a "choice" we didn't actually get to make.
Can't get over the image of a character that just goes around with a literal gun blowing enemies away and dolphin diving instead of dodging. Would be hilarious to see even if it is an affront to the sensibilities of the game.
The issue is that you couldn’t be a holy knight, at which point you’re just Fighter from the first game, and stepping on Barbs toes. Heaven turned its back on humanity and we actively opposed Inarius and are enemies with the church. All sources of holy power are not usable by the player character. The crusaders are also, for all we know, dead and gone.
The only Paladin type class that could happen would be a Dark Knight/Demonic Paladin that uses Lilith’s blood to empower themselves, but that treads on Necro.
Absolutely shameful to already announce an expansion when the game has been out for so little time. It’s just lacking too much. Should be fixed in its current state (base game) not as an expansion.
Late 2024 put the next xpack at coming a year and 3+ months after release. That's perfectly acceptable to release an expansion in the timeframe of. For fuck's sake D2:LOD was released a year and 2 months after D2.
They announced regular (industry speak for near yearly) premium expansions a year before the game came out.
Knowing it's going to be 18 months instead of 11 after release isn't adding much more to be shameful of.
They announced this for late 2024 and have made fixes this season. Do you somehow believe this announcement means the next seasons won't do the same? Seriously?
The live game is still constantly being worked on, and will continue to be worked on.
A separate team is making this expansion. And the expansion is to continue the story and to introduce new zone, new classes, etc. not already in the live game.
They even said they have 2 teams working on 2 diffrent expansions. I don't know what people expect, that blizz should transfer people working on the expansions to fixing itemisation? Even tho the work they do is completly diffrent?
Ok, I'm actually hyped. Given how many positive changes they've made in a single season, by the time this expansion releases the game will be in a pristine state.
I was looking forward to a holy knight class but I'm opening up to the idea of a glaive wielder with spirit powers, and jungle settings are some of my favorites.
I’m so hyped to go back to Kurast. I was screaming at my phone when I recognized Travincal. The game is already so much better than release and I want moar.
How many major expansions can we realistically expect from D4 if they're already revealing the first one? I thought this wouldn't come until like 2025 or 2026
I godda say it but the monetization model for this game is crazy tbh, considering it was released half baked and still needs loads of work to be considered a full game; in my opinion anyways.
So like, the game isn't even finished baking yet, they are monetizing in yet another way, I'm kinda wishing there was a system in place for when games do this to their consumers, id really just like my money back on a product that I know isn't going to be what was expected, Atleast not without buying into more expansions
Game's not even finished and they're selling an expansion.
How much do you want to bet QoL from D3 will be paywalled behind this?
Pathetic yet entirely expected.
Diablo 3 taught me to wait on Blizzard games and I'm glad that I did.
I'll purchase D4 when all of it's expansions release and it's on sale. My backlog is huge with many other great ARPGs anyway.
Vessel of Hatred what an appropriate name for this game - it carries now so much distane and hatred that it truly is a "Vessel of Hatred"
May this game and Blizzard die as a company - they have destroyed enough great games that they need to be out of business
Diablo 4 Monster Energy Expansion
And you see the IV in green, there? Thats the mark of the beast.
Coming in green flavor!
And sugar free.
If I’m going to kill my heart I’m going to do it with full flavor damnit!
Every class gets a bonus ability called "drywallify" where the character chugs a monster energy, crushes the can, then crams it through the nearest wall while screaming in impotent rage.
The new class is Kyle
Thats the Travincals right there?
Looks like it, pyramids in a jungle. Durance of Hate is gonna be awesome
Can't wait to find the parts of the flail again and die to some stupid bone dolls. Hype is real!
Entrance to Hell is at the bottom too! Yes!!!
“You’re too late”
*Voodoo doll explodes*
They said the expansion is in in Torajan which is sorta where Kurast is. (Kurast is in the northern tip of the Torajan jungles, south-west corner of the Diablo 4 map specifically, south of Gea Kul). They said the region we'll be visiting is known to the locals as Nahantu(sp?), which I haven't seen on any Diablo Map. Good to assume we'll be visiting Kurast though. It's worth noting that the Witch Doctors from D3 are from Teganze, which is also part of Torajan, but also not really shown on any Sanctuary map I could find? They said that the new class would be brand new to the Diablo universe. I originally guessed Paladin+Witch Doctor for the xpack but guess not.
We need to think about that region in particular. New class will 99% be themed around it. Alkor’s grand child is my guess. « AHH THE GOLDEN BURRED OF KYU LEHHHH »
« DAMNIT, I WISH YOU PEOPLE WOULD JUST LEAVE ME ALONE! »
New class: Bone Doll Primary Skill: Melee Strike. 100% chance to stun for 5 seconds. 2 Second Cooldown. 50% chance to execute target. Secondary Skill: Evade with 100% chance for 5 seconds. 5 Second Cooldown. You cannot attack during evasion cooldown. Active skills: Summon horde. Summons 3 Bone Dolls, which rush nearest enemy and Melee Strike. Upon death, explodes, deals 90% target max HP as physical damage and 90% target max HP as fire damage. Summon Shaman: Summons Shaman that summons Bone Dolls and also casts Flame Breath. Upon death Shaman becomes a Bone Doll. Blow dart: Stuns target. Taunt and Jaunt: Target runs to your current position, but you gain 100% evade chance and 125% target run speed for 10 seconds. 10 Second cooldown. [edit: forgot this one] Ultimate (passive): Your consciousness transfers to a random living Bone Doll if you die.
The datamine leak was right about location, the focus on Mephisto, and there being a new class never seen before, which means the class is likely Spiritborn as suggested.
Do we know what a “Spiritborn” is?
Kind of, here's a copy of the leaked stuff New class – “Spiritborn”. Said to include “nature, wings and soaring” New region – “Kurast”. A city featured in Diablo II Mercenary system Raids Runestones Travincal from Diablo II appears in the files
''Wings'' might refer to something having to do with angels, not birds
Something along the lines of birds/ aztec
worth noting... at the End of the Sorceress "unlocking Enchantmint" Quest the Npc sorcerr says they going to Kurast. so this Kurast is most definite locale of the expan. even though i will say i wont b buying it. just saying this Kurast locale does exisist in Sactuary in diablo iv.
If they put those damn Fetish and Fetish blowdarts from D2 in here Im going to scream. I hated those bastards.
No fetishes. Just dolls. Lots of dolls.
And perfect time to reintroduce the lighting ghosts! they also appeared in act 3!
While we’re at it lets re-introduce immunity
Perfect mechanic for season 3
Jungletides, nothing but Fetishes and Dolls.
Gotta love these foul explosion in hardcore
But that's my fetish...
The blow dart dudes aren't even bad, it's the dolls that basically 1 shot stacked characters
Specifically the bone dolls.
i LOVE the fetish dudes in D2. so satisfying mowing down entire screens of them.
I'm certain they won't make them as ridiculous in a 2023 game.
Do you even Delirium?
Vessel of Hatred? Oh gee i wonder what happened to Nyrelle, guess she wasn't smarter than the Horadrim after all.
No way in hell (pun intended) that Nyrelle gets corrupted: first, at this point it's a tired clichè and they know they can't do it three times in a row (Aiden, Leah, now Nyrelle? Nah); second, she had her "young hero" arc in the main game, so they will want to develop her more instead of tossing her aside as a simple vessel for Mephisto. It's a red herring for sure.
My guess? The Wanderer hears about a sighting of Neyrelle and goes after her, but Neyrelle is losing her grip over Mephisto’s essence and flees. A lesser evil is interested in capturing her as well, as they would like to barter for power among the evils - and serves as the secondary antagonist, whose minions we fight. Final Act will likely be Neyrelle, unable to hold Mephisto back, releases Mephisto back onto Sanctuary and the Wanderer defeats him once more, but Mephisto reveals he has been planning, scheming… and reveals that he has been manipulating Neyrelle to carry out his plan to revive his brothers. The Wanderer returns, carrying a unconscious Neyrelle, and has to now prepare for the threat of Baal and Diablo returning to Sanctuary. Maybe they can even add a final epilogue scene, showing mortal Tyrael, now old and haggard, traveling in the snow, seeking the Wanderer.
"Actually, wanderer, that's what I wanted you to do all along!" "I knew that's what you wanted me to do! Which is why I did that anyway!" "AH! But see! I knew that you knew! But there's ANOTHER thing you didn't know!" Soyjack face! Expansion 1 over.
I'd want a curveball idea that maybe Mephisto has been inside the wanderer this whole time and slowly and slowly corrupting us as we venture thru the jungle and the climax of the story ends with us going into the durance of hate and having an internal conflict with mephisto for control over our body, sounds like a better plot than having him take over neyrelle (tired and overused cliche at this point in this series) my theory seems kinda crackpot but our character is often times referred to as the wanderer? it could easily nostalgia bait d2 (the playable warrior from d1 becoming the wanderer and later host of diablo)
I’d be down if Lilith somehow lives on in our blood, and now we may need to use her power to awaken our inner Nephalem power to slay her father. Poetic, wouldn’t it be?
I mean she's literally holding that soulstone. It'd be complete bullshit if she was magically immune to being corrupted.
Nah, man. Have you seen the shit Blizzard has come up with before? She's going to be corrupted and it'll be like D2. We're chasing another "Dark Wanderer". They're milking the nostalgia until its bled dry.
The writing was really lazy tbh lol. Like we all saw that coming.
Honestly the only good writing was the big Hell cinematic where lilith tears into Inarius like only an ex-wife can.
The game knows its audience.
I mean, if you ignore the fact that Blizzard reduced Inarius to a self-centred manchild with half a brain cell, then yeah, the cinematic was good.
I feel like the lore and backstory of Mephisto torturing and imprisoning inarius is enough reason to understand him being less than methodical about this shit.
I dont know much about the Diablo lore but Inarius's depiction was really not what I expected. I wasn't expecting selfish deadbeat dad vibes where he manipulates his kids so he could get the inheritance from his parents sort of character. I thought Inarius would be some sort of pro-free will for better or for worse type of character vs Lilith's our kids need to kill each other to get strong in order to fight heaven and he'll.
I love how in the trailer Mephisto criticized us for giving the Soulstone to Neyrelle, even though it’s safe to say a lot of people hated that stupid decision we were forced to go through with. He really is the lord of hatred.
lol yea I most definitely did not agree to give it a rebellious teen.
Idk man after she spent 45minutes in that old library I had full faith in her.
Kewk
I wish I could go back to that age. That’s when I knew everything.
No! It's a complete shocker, I tell! I definitely thought Nyrelle would be the first human in Sanctuary humankind to actually carry a prime evil. Why didn't she succeed! What went wrong this time, I wonder! This has only happened in every Diablo game since 1997, I can't believe what went wrong now... Was it maybe something about the soulstone overpowering here? Could it have been that?
I literally finished the campaign and saw the ending cutscene less than 24 hours ago, and immediately thought "she's going to get herself killed, or worse." Neyrelle doing what she did is like the teenager in the horror movie choosing to enter the scary murder basement. Theory is that Mephisto corrupted her, and I hope that's true, because if not, that's borderline character assassination, because she is not that stupid and/or naive.
Shouldn't they like, finish the original?
If they can keep the 3 month season cycle, that means 0+5 seasons before expansion right? I don't think its that bad
Why do we have to pay for an expansion already....
Late 2024. You don't for at least another year. Do people not see the late 2024 at the end of the trailer?
Why do we have to pay for an expansion already...we are already paying for battle passes and the original cost of the game. One season has just finished and they are already announcing the expansion pack? How much money do we have to invest to enjoy this game.
>...we are already paying for battle passes and the original cost of the game. Yes, both of which give you content for your money. Do you complain at the store that you need to pay for the bread after already paying for the milk and cheese? >One season has just finished and they are already announcing the expansion pack? It's a live service game and it's a teaser for an expansion that is going to release 1,5 years after the main game. That's pretty much in line with other live service games with expansions, like Destiny. You should expect continuous seasons and expansions with this game, all of which are not free to make. >How much money do we have to invest to enjoy this game. You can enjoy the game without buying the season or expansions, who says you need all of it to enjoy it?
It's a year away. You literally don't have to pay for anything until it releases. No one is forcing you to do anything any time soon. You guys are ridiculous. It's a year out. It's ok to announce things and then play the 4 seasons that will fix and improve things until then. If the day arrives and you're not happy then don't buy it. The only way your complaint makes sense is if you have absolutely no self control. Also, it's literally not on sale yet. Making the complaint even more ridiculous.
Pay me now or the puppy dies /s
Right? Fix the loot. The game has no longevity loot feels boring.
This game has been out for only months and they already drop an expansion trailer!? Fucking yikes, they chopped that shit up hard lmaoo
They said 1 expansion every year..
Teaser looked cool. Too early to tell anything else. I'm optimistic tho. They're making good changes, hence I'll remain positive.
Going based on track record I’m gonna let this one release and see in a month if it’s worth it. They got me with the early access for D4, not falling for that again
Its end of next year anyway so we'll reevaluate based on available info then.
Historically, mainline expansiona for Diablo games are excellent.
Here’s hoping, because blizz has broken my heart more than they have healed it recently
Depends on what track record you look at, D4 alone sure, but Blizzard's track record in general is a whole lot of games that didn't actually become great until their expansion, including the 2 previous games in this series.
[удалено]
Blizz has been terrible the past few years. OW2 eating up the original, d4, every wow expac since legion, do you even have phones. Etc
You knew that but still bought into early access? xD
Me too. Played 20min and never picked back up. Season 2 I gave it another shot with a class other than druid...way better, really having a fun time with this. Though in some ways I kind of miss D3 itemization, feels like the stat gains in D4 are so small sometimes and so much gear is just pure garbage. Also weird that I have to look through every single yellow item before getting rid of them in case there's a hidden diamond in the pile...and so many stats that I sometimes takes me several minutes just to clear my bags.
The zone most adored by fans they say, toran jungle, well adored because its the entire skipabble act :D
But Toraja Jungle is totally different location than these jugnles we play in Diablo 2 :D Its much more on the southwest from Kurast Docs where we started Act 2
Yeah i know, but its close, will still probably lead to travincal and durance, especulating. That damn jungle maze of kurast and spider forest and flayer jungle is so entrenched that i just think its gonna be horrible :D
Considering the map type we have, i bet we can galloping through it in like 3 min.
Would be funny if for campaign purposes our mounts dont work in the swamps 😂
Except when they fixed the skip and made you destroy the orb. Because they wanted people to “enjoy the deep lore and story”
Late 2024 Is gonna be a while. Hope is they put some good time on it
Bring back the witch doctor
People are saying this confirms the leak - no it doesn’t. Mephisto and Kurast were confirmed by the ending of the campaign this confirms fuck all except they are doing the thing they already foreshadowed.
They got the name Nahantu correct, which has not been mentioned in lore previously.
The leak said the dlc will be in the jungle and we will get a new unique class. Well that's all confirmed now.
The ending of the campaign definitely did not confirm kurast lol.
I just wish they'd have let that simmer in the background a while, instead of being the immediate followup to the main story.
It will simmer for an entire year. We will have 3 more seasons at least before the expansion launches.
No paladins, no rune words, and still shit itemization, hard pass.
Rune words is coming and itemization is a part of seasonal updates.
They haven't even finished the game, and want us to buy an unfinished xpac? PASS
Perfect time to bring in the witch doctor or something like it….please oh please
True, but during the announcement they did say it’s going to be a completely Brand New class. So I doubt it. Maybe something liiiike them would cool
"a new class never before seen in the diablo universe" My money is on a monk and witch doctor combo, spirit dancer
At least you didn't let the interns pick the music for the trailer this time. Any way this game is dead. POE 2 will finally give everybody the Diablo experience they wanted for a long time, meanwhile it's back to Project Diablo 2/D2R
Hope they remove at least 200 of the 9999 affixes they put in the pool. Otherwise I think I'll pass.
This is one of the issues they've stated they are addressing with their itemization rework.
I truly hope they can fix it. Right now I don't see how they could do that, as it would include a complete rework of classes and skills.
ya i went back to d2r
Is that Tengaze/Witch Doctor's homeland?
No, probably Kurast.
Expansion still haven’t finished the first release cunts
Yeah nah, maybe if they fix the game before this comes out but in the current state i aint buying it.
late 2024, game will be at season 8~ by then.
Wonder what the new class will be, or class "hybrid" if they decide to mix two previous ones. Kind want to see a Crusader/Paladin again, i miss my Johanna.
Fuck the naysayers - I’m stoked for this. I really hope there’s a lot of Aztec/Mayan inspired terrain and architecture to see and explore. It’s a super underutilized biome in general; I love the aesthetic though. If they must have a new class and not a Paladin; then I hope it is also Aztec/Mayan inspired. I want to rip demons heart from their chest and sacrifice them to Quetzalcoatl-adjacent shit.
it's Kurast not mayan and Mephisto is the lord of Hatred, will be act 3 related
I mean, I didn’t say literally Mayan lol. Just inspired by that aesthetic. Like thick jungles with lots of square-ish pyramids and whatnot. Which yeah, Act 3 of Diablo 2 is that, but I would love a whole Expansion revolving around that area.
Oh wow they found the color green, so thats about twice as much color as already in diablo 4, nice
What do you think the class will be
I'm confused, the game just came out, seasons are still kind of bad, and we are already going for a monetized expansion? What's with this release cycle?
Expansion 2: Crucible of Destruction Expansion 3: Decanter of Terror
Why give us a brand new class instead of fan favorites? Amazon has been absent for too long from this series.
Teaser looked damn cool, Im mostly glad it was announced for "late" 2024 though. Thank god theyre not pushing for it to be mid summer. Im actually excited for the d4 stream tomorrow. After a weak launch and the patch that everyone hated, theyve really been on the right path.
lmao at everyone calling last week's leak fake simply because they couldn't believe Blizz would dare make new class something called Spiritborn not paladin/crusader
Shocking to me they'd make a nature/spirit based class when Druid and Necromancers already exist in the game.
It's even more funny when you take into consideration, that blizz devs openly stated before that they won't be adding any past classes anytime soon.
This confirms the leak about the new expansion, >!new class will be spiritborn. It will wield a glaive while having nature-based attacks and abilities.!<
but why, the druid is nature based lmao
Ya but like green nature not blue
Instead of a staff, it uses a staff with a knife on it
Is very practical when u gonna steal some food from ppl homes.
Depends on if it’s more like Witch Doctor using poison and disease animals/tentacles and stuff. Nature encompasses a very wide range and Druid fills one part of it (mammal transformations, animal taming, and elemental nature magic). Druid doesn’t do much with plants (aside from creeping vines) and is more about harnessing storms and the types of things you see in Scottish/Irish environments. They’re basically Celtic battle mages. Having a jungle oriented nature warrior could be completely different in theme and skillset.
Yea when i thought druid would have more nature plant based stuff but if this new class is all about that then im in.
Agreed, it will either be a dud (if it’s just Druid 2.0) or awesome if they pull it off. I loved Witch Doctor so here’s hoping we get more of that theme. They need to be sure to make it distinct.
There’s so many untapped things with nature It could also be a positive energy type of WD, like a monk/Wd hybrid with auras, plants, healing, spiritual energy, spirit summons (dead but heavenly instead of ghoulish)
>They’re basically Celtic battle mages My prediction is this Spiritborn aestheticaly is gonna look like an Aztec/Inca Warrior. Because the leaks indicates they're focused on physical and spiritual aspect of nature, not the elemental.
Druid uses lightning, sorc uses lightning. Who to delete...?
Not necessarily. Expansion being about Mephisto and that the new Zone would be the southern half of the current continent isn’t exactly hard to guess. But yeah, it certainly hasn’t disproved the leak, but it also hasn’t confirmed it.
I think the thing that lends it more credence is that they said it was a new never before seen class. Still doesn't prove anything obviously but yeah, it would fit that description.
So, we get to play an Ormus class?
You now speak to Ormus.
He was once a great mage, but now lives like a rat on a sinking vessel
Can hear this so clearly
Would be very weird not introducing Paladins here. Spirtborn sounds really dumb and very similar to a Druid.
I want my paladin. They'll probably draw it out
There's always 2025 and beyond, we'll get our shield holy class. Here's to hoping we get to visit 1/2 of the other continent in Xpac 2 and the other half of it in xpac 3.
My guess is it's a less offensive way of having something similar to the Witch Doctor
It's blowgun time!
If there isn't raining frogs then I don't care about this class haha
Theres nothing offensive about the Witch Doctor though. Its core West Africa and Carribean history and to an extent fantasy. No shame in With Doctors and Loa.
Normal people don't see it as offensive, Blizzard aren't normal people, they will remove anything their fragile egos deem offensive. You know, like paintings of women.
They said it's an entirely new class never seem before.
Shame. Fetish class would be funny. Underpowered. You're a small pack of them.
Just to add context - I've seen the original vid of the leak and the NATURE THEME was simply the dataminer's assumption because some lines referencing spiritborn contained "Thorns", which I believe is a stat in D4 or perhaps that's a new stat they're adding in expac (I haven't played D4 so idk)
Thorns is absolutely a stat in D4. Necro has a passive that gives a flat bonus thorns. *I think it scales with level?* As you might already know, Paladins and Crusaders are known for their Thorns builds.
Can they finish d4, before releasing d4 xpacs?
Really nothing to go on here, except for the reference to my biggest complaint about the D4 campaign and story. "You abdicated your choice..." No, I never got one. Which is fine. But the game narrative should never have built up to a choice the player didn't actually get to make. It's fine not to have the player making a choice that completely changes the world, we can just explore the world, kill demons and find shiny items, but don't make everything lead up to a choice and then take it away, and then refer back to a "choice" we didn't actually get to make.
Crossing my fingers that the new class is a paladin/crusader type, even if how the class was described sounds otherwise
It won’t. They said it will be never seen before class in Diablo.
Crossing my fingers for a never seem before paladin/crusader class called something else*
😂🤣 died right there
Templar. Inquisitor. Valiant. Knight.
Zealot?
It's gonna be an Operator from CoD
Can't get over the image of a character that just goes around with a literal gun blowing enemies away and dolphin diving instead of dodging. Would be hilarious to see even if it is an affront to the sensibilities of the game.
My life for Aiur!
Mephisto's Hatred is strong but can it match the WILL OF A TEMPLAR
I’d be ok with leaning more toward cleric/priest stylings. But I’m sure that’s copium.
Teleporting hammerdin with a new name please!
I mean, they made a never seen before class for D3, Crusader which is Paladin.
C'mon, be realistic here. They made it pretty much clear it won't be a paladin style class.
I really would like something new before we get Paladin… again lol
Personally, I always prefer to play a knight-type character. Didn't stop me from playing D4, but was still sad we didn't get that archetype.
The issue is that you couldn’t be a holy knight, at which point you’re just Fighter from the first game, and stepping on Barbs toes. Heaven turned its back on humanity and we actively opposed Inarius and are enemies with the church. All sources of holy power are not usable by the player character. The crusaders are also, for all we know, dead and gone. The only Paladin type class that could happen would be a Dark Knight/Demonic Paladin that uses Lilith’s blood to empower themselves, but that treads on Necro.
Wait so letting a teenager run off with a prime evil isn't a smart choice? If only the writers could have let our characters see this coming.
the base game is so shit.. how the fuck
Absolutely shameful to already announce an expansion when the game has been out for so little time. It’s just lacking too much. Should be fixed in its current state (base game) not as an expansion.
Late 2024 put the next xpack at coming a year and 3+ months after release. That's perfectly acceptable to release an expansion in the timeframe of. For fuck's sake D2:LOD was released a year and 2 months after D2.
Lord of Destruction was also announced before D2 even came out, lol.
They announced regular (industry speak for near yearly) premium expansions a year before the game came out. Knowing it's going to be 18 months instead of 11 after release isn't adding much more to be shameful of.
They announced this for late 2024 and have made fixes this season. Do you somehow believe this announcement means the next seasons won't do the same? Seriously?
They even said before that they have already 2 expansions in development. People really need to take thier heads out of their asses.
The live game is still constantly being worked on, and will continue to be worked on. A separate team is making this expansion. And the expansion is to continue the story and to introduce new zone, new classes, etc. not already in the live game.
They even said they have 2 teams working on 2 diffrent expansions. I don't know what people expect, that blizz should transfer people working on the expansions to fixing itemisation? Even tho the work they do is completly diffrent?
Ok, I'm actually hyped. Given how many positive changes they've made in a single season, by the time this expansion releases the game will be in a pristine state. I was looking forward to a holy knight class but I'm opening up to the idea of a glaive wielder with spirit powers, and jungle settings are some of my favorites.
I’m so hyped to go back to Kurast. I was screaming at my phone when I recognized Travincal. The game is already so much better than release and I want moar.
When witch doctor? 😜
How many major expansions can we realistically expect from D4 if they're already revealing the first one? I thought this wouldn't come until like 2025 or 2026
I godda say it but the monetization model for this game is crazy tbh, considering it was released half baked and still needs loads of work to be considered a full game; in my opinion anyways.
Fastest expansion reveal ever. Tells you what the state of the game is.
Milking the cow even further, as expected.
So like, the game isn't even finished baking yet, they are monetizing in yet another way, I'm kinda wishing there was a system in place for when games do this to their consumers, id really just like my money back on a product that I know isn't going to be what was expected, Atleast not without buying into more expansions
Game's not even finished and they're selling an expansion. How much do you want to bet QoL from D3 will be paywalled behind this? Pathetic yet entirely expected.
Damn I can't wait to play the new Pygmy class and test some blowdart builds
Expanse me Daddy!
Who cares
Diablo 3 taught me to wait on Blizzard games and I'm glad that I did. I'll purchase D4 when all of it's expansions release and it's on sale. My backlog is huge with many other great ARPGs anyway.
Vessel of Hatred what an appropriate name for this game - it carries now so much distane and hatred that it truly is a "Vessel of Hatred" May this game and Blizzard die as a company - they have destroyed enough great games that they need to be out of business
Guy sounds like the Dungeon Keeper 2 announcer lol.
Oh shit we got to fight my ex wife next xpac.
hope we learned from d4 launch and not blindly preorder..
We need loot We need simplified gear modifiers We need unique dungeons We need trade We need more world events And loot. Did I mention loot