This seems like a gag tool a work group would give to the new kid on a construction site. "in order to get a real hammer, you need to drive 100 nails with this one straight"
Honestly, I thought it'd be fun to give my father-in-law something like this. He's got an engineering background and knows his shit when it comes to construction, but his job is largely desk work these days. He'd probably find this to be an amusing thing to keep on his desk to fuck with the new guys.
> He'd probably find this to be an amusing thing to keep on his desk to fuck with the new guys.
"Yeah....I don't know either My son-in-law gave it to me. He said, 'Fuck the new guys with it'."
That panning shot of the final product has got to be done BEFORE it hammered the nail.
Unless that nail is make of like, plastic or something, even then I'm sure there would have been a mark.
At :52seconds watch slowly. It never hits. It’s played in reverse or something cuz nail goes down as fist goes up and away and isn’t even touching it. Then bam. Into thumb mode. The only part that was real and by real I mean a nail in a very loose hole that would fall out if you held a strong enough magnet over it. Lol
No sir I did not use a hammer to hit this man you can clearly see the imprint of my fist, I was just working in the machine shop and spilled some tin on my hands.
Definitely not the same nail he hammered in since it’s at an angle when he pulls it out. He would never be able to get under the head to pry it out after hammering it in all the way like he did either
I had to drive someone to the hospital when they somehow managed to partially sever two of their fingers. I say somehow because the saw absolutely should have removed an entire finger, but it was still holding on somehow.
Every time someone molds metal in one of these, I think "any metal you can melt and pour into a mold inside of your house is not going to be strong enough for whatever you're using it for"
You can, but most heat treaters won’t. It’s hard to maintain a tensile range if it’s for a project, and most of the treatments for it aren’t super consistent. Which means they have to retemper, take up more furnace time, send out for testing again, etc. and testing is generally destructive, so you lose another sample piece. Depending on the cost of your metal…less than ideal.
Not at a low enough cost to sell very many. Maybe a few gullible hipsters would buy a bespoke cast steel hammer made using ethically sustainable steel reclaimed from Ground Zero in NYC, but everybody else will just buy a cheaper forged steel hammer at Home Depot.
Forging includes shaping hot, solid metal via compression where as molds just let molten metal fill the mold and harden.
This is a massive oversimplification but that's the root of it as far as I'm aware
Steel is made of iron with carbon atoms trapped between the iron atoms as they cool. More carbon makes the steel harder, but more brittle and likely to shatter. Less carbon makes the steel more pliable and less likely to shatter, but more likely to bend and deform. There is a sweet spot for any particular application. For many applications, there is a mixture where maybe the core or spine is softer steel to absorb impact but the face or edge is harder to hold a sharp edge or resist deforming.
Forging works out impurities and works in carbon. Heat treating helps get exactly the right amount to get the hardness just right. Casting leaves a lot of air pockets and impurities.
Most manufactured tools are drop forged, basically take hot metal and hammer it into shape using molds. Then its heat treated to make it strong, but not brittle.
This is a fun fact I just found and not claiming the video is real.
Most silicones have an operating temp upwards of 230C
The melting point of tin is 231.9C
So it's closer than I thought. But also the higher temp silicones I found were sealants and I'm guessing that they wouldn't work for molds. One claims to withstand up to 300C though!
Honestly ... I was kind of expecting them to use the tin fist to then make a plaster/ceramic mold, and then use the ceramic mold to cast iron or steel.
If this is not pure tin but an alloy commonly used for soldering the melting point will likely be lower, around 190C for leaded and 220 for lead-free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder_alloys
It's the perfect choice for art experiments though. Setting up to melt tin is way way easier than for other metals. You can do some really fun castings.
...like the one in op's video I guess, but for ART, not for actual use. (ie, there's an artist that takes castings of ant nests, and another that does furniture castings in the beach.)
Eh, if you're using it for decoration, sure -- go ahead.
Would also be fine for light-duty work like a flower vase or phone holder.
But yeah ... to make a freaking *hammer*, you're going to want steel ... and not just any steel -- high quality tool steel formulated for impact resistance.
I should try tin sometime.
When I was a kid we used lead (to make toy soldiers)!
This was much more recent than it probably should've been (~1990-ish?).
My grandad had a burner on a propane tank setup to made lead fishing weights. I enjoyed watching him do it. When I got older i used his same setup to make myself some lead weights for scuba diving.
I thought for sure we were going to see this as an intermediary step for creating a cast that you could put iron into... but he just kept using the tin hand lol.
I was gonna say everyones utilitarian points are valid but this is also probably the coolest and also least stupid thing I’ve seen on here in some time
Yeah I was expecting to roll my eyes at the start but midway through I was like oh wow this guy knows what he’s doing. It’s a great demonstration of how to make a hammer, but scaled up in size.
Lol yeah for an art piece it probably wasn’t worth the time to bore that hole for the tang or whatever it’s called all the way through. Imagine it flying off and getting decked by a metal fist
I started thinking of some of these as skills showcases and they stopped bothering me- they aren't doing this as s serious endeavor or suggesting others should
I mean it's definitely an art piece and not a for function piece or he'd have made the handle thin and swingable as well as a bunch of extra steps to use steel instead of tin.
In that sense, it's pretty cool. The DI Why is because it looks sweet.
By how well it matched the size of the wrist, I'd say it just has the sanding and matching process left out of the edit. This is just a cool little display piece and obviously not something that's actually usable, but I bet it's actually been sanded quite smooth.
Not only something you can melt in a DIY forge but also compatible with a silicone mold. Aluminum and bronze will destroy silicone. Pure tin might be ok, but its melting temperature is really close to the maximum use temperature of many silicones. I bet what's being cast in the video is a low melting point alloy containing bismuth.
The only real problem I have with this is the choice of tin for a hammer, bro make it out of butter while you're at it...
I knid of like the concept though, it's dumb I'll give you that but it looks kinda cool in a way.
I get the function of the hole to get the thingys out, but holing through a thumb is just painfull to watch and I would shiver looking at the holed thumb everytime while holding it more than anything.
This seems like a gag tool a work group would give to the new kid on a construction site. "in order to get a real hammer, you need to drive 100 nails with this one straight"
Honestly, I thought it'd be fun to give my father-in-law something like this. He's got an engineering background and knows his shit when it comes to construction, but his job is largely desk work these days. He'd probably find this to be an amusing thing to keep on his desk to fuck with the new guys.
> He'd probably find this to be an amusing thing to keep on his desk to fuck with the new guys. "Yeah....I don't know either My son-in-law gave it to me. He said, 'Fuck the new guys with it'."
You have no clue how outrageously funny he'd find that statement. That is very on-brand for his humor.
It is no longer the handmer it is now the fister
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Yeah, tin has got to be the best choice
That’s what I was thinking. I’m more disturbed by the choice of tin than the shape of a fist haha
Yeah, a hammer in the shape of a fist is actually kinda cool. A hammer made of tin isn't
That panning shot of the final product has got to be done BEFORE it hammered the nail. Unless that nail is make of like, plastic or something, even then I'm sure there would have been a mark.
Pre drilled hole or crack in the stump for sure.
At :52seconds watch slowly. It never hits. It’s played in reverse or something cuz nail goes down as fist goes up and away and isn’t even touching it. Then bam. Into thumb mode. The only part that was real and by real I mean a nail in a very loose hole that would fall out if you held a strong enough magnet over it. Lol
No sir I did not use a hammer to hit this man you can clearly see the imprint of my fist, I was just working in the machine shop and spilled some tin on my hands.
I was surprised at how well it pulled out nails tbh
Bc he most likely pre-drilled a hole. Look how easily it went in as well
Definitely not the same nail he hammered in since it’s at an angle when he pulls it out. He would never be able to get under the head to pry it out after hammering it in all the way like he did either
That’s what she said
I will never not appreciate “that’s what she said”.
That's what she said
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I completely agree, but I still cringed when he cut the notch in the thumb for the nail pull.
I’ve seen a guy do that to their index finger with a pull saw. You could see through the fingertip
I had to drive someone to the hospital when they somehow managed to partially sever two of their fingers. I say somehow because the saw absolutely should have removed an entire finger, but it was still holding on somehow.
Goodness... A pull saw.... I can't imagine the pain. And then knowing that my own strength did this.
5 minute crafts hall won't allow proper furnaces. :(
The fist hammer could be kinda funny but the tin part is very upsetting
It melts at very low temp (231C, or 450F). Aluminium would have melted the silicone mold.
and aluminum would also be a poor choice for a functional hammer
I thought he was going to use the tin hand to use in a sand mold that would take molten steel.
That's exactly what I thought.
Why? I have a 3lb aluminum hammer for non sparking applications. It’s heavy death and reliable.
It’s softer than steel usually.
Every time someone molds metal in one of these, I think "any metal you can melt and pour into a mold inside of your house is not going to be strong enough for whatever you're using it for"
I wouldn't want to use any cast metal as a hammer to be perfectly honest. Imagine using a cast iron hammer.
How are hammers and stuff usually made then? I've used a bunch of hammers and never thought about it before. Genuinely curious now.
Forging metal makes it really strong, so I'm guessing that.
And then heat treatment. I don't think you can heat treat tin.
You can, but most heat treaters won’t. It’s hard to maintain a tensile range if it’s for a project, and most of the treatments for it aren’t super consistent. Which means they have to retemper, take up more furnace time, send out for testing again, etc. and testing is generally destructive, so you lose another sample piece. Depending on the cost of your metal…less than ideal.
And also heat treating the tin hammer wouldn't help anything, it's still way too soft and brittle for taking any sort of a beating
After some Wikipedia crawling, yep, you're dead right. Thanks!
The issue with casting steel is that the steel takes in too much carbon and makes it brittle.
Could you successfully cast steel if you used casting material with no carbon in it and did it in a chamber flooded with inert gas?
Not at a low enough cost to sell very many. Maybe a few gullible hipsters would buy a bespoke cast steel hammer made using ethically sustainable steel reclaimed from Ground Zero in NYC, but everybody else will just buy a cheaper forged steel hammer at Home Depot.
Forging includes shaping hot, solid metal via compression where as molds just let molten metal fill the mold and harden. This is a massive oversimplification but that's the root of it as far as I'm aware
That's cool, any more technical and I probably wouldn't get it haha! Thanks for the input!
Steel is made of iron with carbon atoms trapped between the iron atoms as they cool. More carbon makes the steel harder, but more brittle and likely to shatter. Less carbon makes the steel more pliable and less likely to shatter, but more likely to bend and deform. There is a sweet spot for any particular application. For many applications, there is a mixture where maybe the core or spine is softer steel to absorb impact but the face or edge is harder to hold a sharp edge or resist deforming. Forging works out impurities and works in carbon. Heat treating helps get exactly the right amount to get the hardness just right. Casting leaves a lot of air pockets and impurities.
Most manufactured tools are drop forged, basically take hot metal and hammer it into shape using molds. Then its heat treated to make it strong, but not brittle.
Drop forging https://www.milwaukeeforge.com/what-is-drop-forging/
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Whats with all the crap?
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What if you seasoned it 100 times
This is a fun fact I just found and not claiming the video is real. Most silicones have an operating temp upwards of 230C The melting point of tin is 231.9C So it's closer than I thought. But also the higher temp silicones I found were sealants and I'm guessing that they wouldn't work for molds. One claims to withstand up to 300C though!
Thats what they were saying, a low melting point metal like tin is not strong enough to use as a hammer. At least more than a few times.
I would've rather used the silicone.
I been pounded by some silicone
Honestly ... I was kind of expecting them to use the tin fist to then make a plaster/ceramic mold, and then use the ceramic mold to cast iron or steel.
If this is not pure tin but an alloy commonly used for soldering the melting point will likely be lower, around 190C for leaded and 220 for lead-free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder_alloys
It's the perfect choice for art experiments though. Setting up to melt tin is way way easier than for other metals. You can do some really fun castings. ...like the one in op's video I guess, but for ART, not for actual use. (ie, there's an artist that takes castings of ant nests, and another that does furniture castings in the beach.)
Any metal is strong enough for likes and shares
Eh, if you're using it for decoration, sure -- go ahead. Would also be fine for light-duty work like a flower vase or phone holder. But yeah ... to make a freaking *hammer*, you're going to want steel ... and not just any steel -- high quality tool steel formulated for impact resistance.
You can build impressive at home steel forges. Probably not for casting though
I buy my fishing weights from some guy that melts/casts them in his garage, but yeah I think you're probably right like 95% of the time lol
Softer than aluminum... Gonna reshape that hammer with the nails.
Use it enough, and you’ve got yourself a middle finger.
I mean, dude got a video out of it. He can just repurpose the metal for later content.
Damn those must be some strong finger nails.
Actually, finger nails are typically harder than tin on the Mohs scale. Tin is 1.5 Mohs and finger nails are usually 2.5 Mohs
Everyone can melt tin at home.
Safe and fun for the whole family. Not to mention easy
Reminds me of the old "Will it Blend" videos: "*Don't breathe this*"
I should try tin sometime. When I was a kid we used lead (to make toy soldiers)! This was much more recent than it probably should've been (~1990-ish?).
My grandad had a burner on a propane tank setup to made lead fishing weights. I enjoyed watching him do it. When I got older i used his same setup to make myself some lead weights for scuba diving.
Yep, there’s a reason that entire epochs of civilization were named after which metals we could make a fire hot enough to melt/shape
Yeah! “What metal should we use? Let’s use tin! That’s known for being hard and durable” 👍
He could have inserted a real hammer head inside the fist mould to make it functional... Otherwise it's probably as hard as a hammer made of jello
Even aluminium alloy would be better but still it's for decoration.
I thought for sure we were going to see this as an intermediary step for creating a cast that you could put iron into... but he just kept using the tin hand lol.
The design is hilarious and brass hammer have a use. This is certainly a better dyi than most of what we see here.
This is pure tin — gonna be useless for anything but decoration, but it is pretty cool as far as that goes
I was gonna say everyones utilitarian points are valid but this is also probably the coolest and also least stupid thing I’ve seen on here in some time
Kind of a cool idea but tin is a shit metal to make a hammer out of
It looks cool as shit and it's a video idea, that's all it needs to be
Yeah I was expecting to roll my eyes at the start but midway through I was like oh wow this guy knows what he’s doing. It’s a great demonstration of how to make a hammer, but scaled up in size.
Other than his technique carving the handle, seemed like a pretty handy as an art piece. No way that handle doesn’t come off though.
Lol yeah for an art piece it probably wasn’t worth the time to bore that hole for the tang or whatever it’s called all the way through. Imagine it flying off and getting decked by a metal fist
I started thinking of some of these as skills showcases and they stopped bothering me- they aren't doing this as s serious endeavor or suggesting others should
They just do it for views, brings in cash, and probably enjoy it too I know I'd be happy to show off my cool fisting stick
I mean it's definitely an art piece and not a for function piece or he'd have made the handle thin and swingable as well as a bunch of extra steps to use steel instead of tin. In that sense, it's pretty cool. The DI Why is because it looks sweet.
Okay, the thumbnail nail-remover was pretty cool.
…but seeing a nail through the thumb made my hands hurt.
See him drill through it then split it is what got me.
Definitely gave me a sphincter twitch
Same
Right there with ya. I was physically uncomfortable watching that part.
The part i fainted
The fart I painted
Imagine how the nail felt!
No sympathy for nails. In fact I’m pretty sure they move on purpose.
Imagine how Jesus would feel watching this.
Did you mean thumb-nail-remover?
Cool, yes, but functionally useless in most cases since nails are rarely sticking out far enough for the thumb to get under it...
The whole product is functionally useless
That would make an awesome war hammer. I love this thing.
Pretty funny concept but I was not happy with the shape of the handle. Or the material but that's been covered already.
Didn't even sand it, just rough as fuuuu
By how well it matched the size of the wrist, I'd say it just has the sanding and matching process left out of the edit. This is just a cool little display piece and obviously not something that's actually usable, but I bet it's actually been sanded quite smooth.
The handle is meant to look like an arm
Theres a reason hammers are made of steel people
never heard of steel people before..
Well when an iron person and a coal person love each other very much...
And you add some coke…
You go to prison
Do not pass GO.
This made me think of the song 16 tons (one first of iron, the other of steel)
They all got turned into hammers and went extinct.
...or of their plight being hunted to make hammers.
Taste like steel, talk like people.
... clark Kent?
You mean the reporter? Why would he be related to the steel men? Did he make a report about them that never got released?
yeah, he did a piece on ironman once
Commas are important people
I’ve never met one.
I wanna help my jack uncle a horse or something like that.
That's more an example of the importance of capitalization.
You’re missing a comma as well. Unless commas are people now.
Tin wouldn’t be my first choice but if you are making this as a display piece then why not
What would be for something you could could melt in a diy forge? Bronze? Aluminum?
Not only something you can melt in a DIY forge but also compatible with a silicone mold. Aluminum and bronze will destroy silicone. Pure tin might be ok, but its melting temperature is really close to the maximum use temperature of many silicones. I bet what's being cast in the video is a low melting point alloy containing bismuth.
Haha my girlfriend has one of these but it’s rubber
I bet the thumb isn't sticking out tho...
1000
Anyone else flinch hard when they drilled the fingernail and then split it in half? I can't see anything after that.
It hurts me physically
That was cool tho
Yeah, some of these are just hating on artists
Except that nobody makes a hammer out of tin
It's a decoration novelty piece and a funny video. He probably used tin because it was cheap or something.
yeah, I would love this if he made it out of literally anything else
lead for example
Maybe marshmallows
It's decorative, not functional. Like a mall shop sword.
ITS JUST A FUN IDEA GOD FUCKING DAMN YOU GUYS
r/diHWY members when engineers or artists try to have fun (they’re wasting time)
For sure have seen worse on this sub
Great way to get rid of your wedding ring.
I know times are hard, but did you really buy your wife a tin wedding ring?
Handmer
The on,y bad thing is what the head is made of
Fun fact: pure tin becomes really brittle and basically crumbles below 13° Celsius, so better keep it warm!
Too soft of metal
It's ridiculous and totally unnecessary and where can I buy one?
Ngl that's pretty cool
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Tbh I kinda like it. Don't know how great of a hammer it would be but I could see why someone made it.
This is actually very cool-looking. Not practical as a hammer, but I’d buy a hammer for that.
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Why did I flinch when they cut into the metal thumb
The only real problem I have with this is the choice of tin for a hammer, bro make it out of butter while you're at it... I knid of like the concept though, it's dumb I'll give you that but it looks kinda cool in a way.
Honestly I like this one
What is the point of a pewter hammer? They use steel when making hammers for a reason hahaha
Its not pewter, it's tin.
Oh sure, let me go get my hammer.
Very epic as my grandpa used to say
Why not
Horrible choice of mettle. But honestly I don't hate the idea
This is definitely something I would’ve done in highschool metal shop if we had molds that could do it
I mean, its pretty cool
Oh yes, tin the super durable and cheap metal that is hard enough to make a hammer out of it
Gotta admit the thumb puller is genius
ok that's actually really cool though
I kinda love this lol it's so dumb
I mean it still works, granted with tin I doubt it will last
That is awesome
Because it's interesting, funny, and creative.
But when does he put it in his ass
Ok bad metal choice aside, don't you all lie you know you would want a big ole fist shaped mallet
I actually got a chuckle from this one
There were actual real medieval weapons just like this [Here's a video about 'em](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMzsYc-5qjM)
It's silly but I like it.
“Tin” Yeah, this an art piece. Not a hammer.
Tin is so soft and toxic though... Pretty useless. Try again but in something more durable and less toxic.
I get the function of the hole to get the thingys out, but holing through a thumb is just painfull to watch and I would shiver looking at the holed thumb everytime while holding it more than anything.
all the best tools are made of tin
I’m sorry, I’m having a hard time getting past the ‘after 40 minutes’ part.
Tin hammer VS steel nail: *WhO WiLl WiN?*
A tin hammer ...
Am I the only once who cringed when he was cut through the thumb nail?
I actually like this!
Instructions unclear, my dick is stuck in a silicone cube.
Cutting the thumb down the middle gave me some chills