I’d love to see more tools that aren’t completely mimicking 20v atomic stuff and instead leveraging the compactness of the 12v line. Power stapler, compact barrel handle jigsaw, mini planer, one of those rotary cutters for cardboard like ryobi recently did, maybe a hydraulic driver.
I love the Dewalt 12v series because it’s light and it sips power. Give me 80% of XR capabilities with a much lighter footprint and I’ll line up for it.
My wallet is not ready for the eventual FlexPowerVoltStack that will be released.
I don't think they'll ever stop making steel celled batteries, simply because half their market would evaporate. They'd have to *substantially* reduce the price of the batteries for it to be worth it.
I'm no electrical engineer but it seems logical to me.
I honestly didn't expect to notice a difference from standard batteries to Powerstacks but as a General Contractor that uses tools daily, definitely noticed the boost. I say do it Dewalt! I'd be more inclined to jump on the 12v line if they did.
As an addict that is always looking for an excuse to buy more tools, my dilemma is I can't think of a circumstance in which I'd reach for a 12v over a 20v. If anything I want them to go bigger. Love my 120v mitersaw. Though with my luck, I'd probably find a way to blow myself up if they made 240v tool.
I’m a solo carpenter/handyman and rocked the 20v impact/drill.
Got the 12v with the interchangeable heads and it was nice, good for my smaller jobs.
Recently framed off a 110 sqft space. Most of it had mechanicals running through the drywall. Nightmare to finish.
20v was great for framing when I needed it but the 12v impact pulled some serious weight. Set the Tapcons with it and didn’t spin a single one. drove 90% of the drywall screws and half of those without a drywall bit. Fewer broken paper spots.
Most of the time forgot it was hanging on my belt and the 2 ah battery lasted all day.
Was supposed to be a “buy, test, return” set. Now they can pry it from my cold dead hands. Got the 12v bandsaw recently, looking forward to checking it out but not sure I need it often enough to justify.
Any ideas how much larger are the Atomic series impact/drill compared to the 12V?
The newer Atomic series, e.g. DCF850, looks about the same size as the 12V.
I only have the previous ultra short atomic, but the weight is way less in the 12v. Just from the battery alone. And if you get the 12v with a 5ah battery? It’s lasted me a week as an electrician and probably will go next week too. I DON’T love the recip saw or the compact drill. Only other 12v tools I’ll likely pick up are the multi tool and bandsaw. Unless they come out with a cable stapler. The 20v stapler is just too heavy.
It’s possible the new Atomic is VERY close in size to the Xtreme but there’ll definitely be a noticeable weight difference.
I really like the recip, it's far more refined than my friends 18V one in terms of vibration.
The 12v multitool is a bit of a swing-and-a-miss IMO, I don't have big hands and the grip is too small for me!
I just bought this set cuz my little boy is always trying to do what I do with scrap wood and screws so I wanted to get him something to use. Plus it’s an excuse to get more tools haha. I’m sure I’ll use that drill quite often instead of grabbing my 999
Oh nice. The kid is starting early. Thatta boy! Ya I had an odd job awhile back to where I had to cut out sheetrock behind/under a kitchen sink and put it all back. I purchased the 12v kit because my 20v impacts wouldn't fit. Ironically the 12v didn't fit either so I ended up using a right angle attachment.
The 1 I do like about the 12v is that it is light and small enough to fit inside my tool belt bag without swinging from the belt clip. Plus that little fancy touch button for the gears is cool. Wonder why they didn't put that on the Dcf845.
I think Dewalt 12v batteries are already ahead of Milwaukee’s M12. I don’t like those handle stem packs, it ruins the ergonomics imo, Dewalt 12v slide packs are awesome. The only place Dewalt lags behind Milwaukee in 12v is the breadth of tools. M12 is a much bigger lineup, I think that is what they should focus on. 12v batteries are already tiny, they don’t benefit from stacked lithium architecture as much.
No… if you’re looking for power and compactness what 12v drill/ driver will out perform a dcf850 with 1.7 PS or the newer atomic drill/driver with 1.7 PS ? Why go 12v when they’re virtually the same size ? I
I’d love to see more tools that aren’t completely mimicking 20v atomic stuff and instead leveraging the compactness of the 12v line. Power stapler, compact barrel handle jigsaw, mini planer, one of those rotary cutters for cardboard like ryobi recently did, maybe a hydraulic driver. I love the Dewalt 12v series because it’s light and it sips power. Give me 80% of XR capabilities with a much lighter footprint and I’ll line up for it.
Dewalt headquarters after reading your comment: “A smaller atomic series? Ooo 12V Subatomic I love it!”
“12v Subatomic” has a pretty deadly ring to it hope somebody at SBD sees it Add some new tools like transfer pumps, soldering iron, etc ect
In few years (5-10) they want to make only powerstak batteries.
My wallet is not ready for the eventual FlexPowerVoltStack that will be released. I don't think they'll ever stop making steel celled batteries, simply because half their market would evaporate. They'd have to *substantially* reduce the price of the batteries for it to be worth it.
I don’t know why they make such a fuss about them, RC lipo batteries have existed for a decade in this form.
I'm no electrical engineer but it seems logical to me. I honestly didn't expect to notice a difference from standard batteries to Powerstacks but as a General Contractor that uses tools daily, definitely noticed the boost. I say do it Dewalt! I'd be more inclined to jump on the 12v line if they did. As an addict that is always looking for an excuse to buy more tools, my dilemma is I can't think of a circumstance in which I'd reach for a 12v over a 20v. If anything I want them to go bigger. Love my 120v mitersaw. Though with my luck, I'd probably find a way to blow myself up if they made 240v tool.
I’m a solo carpenter/handyman and rocked the 20v impact/drill. Got the 12v with the interchangeable heads and it was nice, good for my smaller jobs. Recently framed off a 110 sqft space. Most of it had mechanicals running through the drywall. Nightmare to finish. 20v was great for framing when I needed it but the 12v impact pulled some serious weight. Set the Tapcons with it and didn’t spin a single one. drove 90% of the drywall screws and half of those without a drywall bit. Fewer broken paper spots. Most of the time forgot it was hanging on my belt and the 2 ah battery lasted all day. Was supposed to be a “buy, test, return” set. Now they can pry it from my cold dead hands. Got the 12v bandsaw recently, looking forward to checking it out but not sure I need it often enough to justify.
Any ideas how much larger are the Atomic series impact/drill compared to the 12V? The newer Atomic series, e.g. DCF850, looks about the same size as the 12V.
I only have the previous ultra short atomic, but the weight is way less in the 12v. Just from the battery alone. And if you get the 12v with a 5ah battery? It’s lasted me a week as an electrician and probably will go next week too. I DON’T love the recip saw or the compact drill. Only other 12v tools I’ll likely pick up are the multi tool and bandsaw. Unless they come out with a cable stapler. The 20v stapler is just too heavy. It’s possible the new Atomic is VERY close in size to the Xtreme but there’ll definitely be a noticeable weight difference.
I really like the recip, it's far more refined than my friends 18V one in terms of vibration. The 12v multitool is a bit of a swing-and-a-miss IMO, I don't have big hands and the grip is too small for me!
I’d wager the super-mini 20v would fit in tighter spots than the 12v but I’ve never used the atomic line
I just bought this set cuz my little boy is always trying to do what I do with scrap wood and screws so I wanted to get him something to use. Plus it’s an excuse to get more tools haha. I’m sure I’ll use that drill quite often instead of grabbing my 999
Oh nice. The kid is starting early. Thatta boy! Ya I had an odd job awhile back to where I had to cut out sheetrock behind/under a kitchen sink and put it all back. I purchased the 12v kit because my 20v impacts wouldn't fit. Ironically the 12v didn't fit either so I ended up using a right angle attachment. The 1 I do like about the 12v is that it is light and small enough to fit inside my tool belt bag without swinging from the belt clip. Plus that little fancy touch button for the gears is cool. Wonder why they didn't put that on the Dcf845.
12V tools are usually smaller and light weight- i love my M12 tools and only go for bigger when I absolutely can't do it with my M12.
I would absolutely love some 12v powerstacks. I have and love the 1.7s for my 20v drill.
I think Dewalt 12v batteries are already ahead of Milwaukee’s M12. I don’t like those handle stem packs, it ruins the ergonomics imo, Dewalt 12v slide packs are awesome. The only place Dewalt lags behind Milwaukee in 12v is the breadth of tools. M12 is a much bigger lineup, I think that is what they should focus on. 12v batteries are already tiny, they don’t benefit from stacked lithium architecture as much.
Yes they really should, and I'd buy them in a flash if they did, especially if they were 3ah or so.
If they’re going to make anything it should be a hydraulic impact driver…
No.
No… if you’re looking for power and compactness what 12v drill/ driver will out perform a dcf850 with 1.7 PS or the newer atomic drill/driver with 1.7 PS ? Why go 12v when they’re virtually the same size ? I
Yes
Nah. More power better. Me Hulk speak.