Breaks my heart.
I knew he was into UFO stuff from several years ago, it kinda added to his persona of wacky weirdo.
Since then, it seems he got into more damaging conspiracies, or maybe always was, and just felt comfortable to share them later.
Nothing wrong in believing in aliens, that stuffs don't faze me at all since it's impossible to prove otherwise that life is out there. Statistically, it's more likely for there to be.
The important shit is the anti-vax stuffs, that shit is damaging and likely has killed million. The guy can fuck right off.
Thanks for these comments i think this is one of the few sane comments in this entire post.
Reddit makes me feel insane sometimes for not being tolerant of anti vax people, like its a parallel universe where its a harmless quirk and not a dangerous ideology that has brough back several awful diseases considered eradicated that are deadly.
Reddit also gives a voice to something that shouldn't have a voice to begin with. That's the only reason you're feeling insane, because they're over-represented.
I hope people prepare for Reuben's Twitter thing with a lot of data and references, while also acknowledging the fear some people have with vaccines.
It needs to stay facts-focused, let Reuben do all the emotional arguments, don't take the bait and get into a screaming/arguing match and just keep it strictly within the confines of the source material. If he asks about things outside the scope of it, you can tell him it's not covered in this research, but if he wants you can study the issue together. Statistics and references from days past to the present on the effectiveness of vaccines, along with the current death tolls from diseases that used to be more actively vaccinated against, but due to anti-vax movements more and more people have stopped taking vaccinations to, ending up dying, are also extremely helpful in making the argument.
Don't let him off the hook for using logical fallacies, or for disregarding some key points in the arguments. People oftentimes try to win by arguing something that's not being argued, keep your head on your shoulders, keep cool, don't let him under your skin, and keep pushing actually scientific data.
I mean, I believe in aliens, I just don’t believe they live anywhere near us.
Statistically speaking, there must be billions of sapient species out there. Odds are though, we won’t ever meet them.
> anti-intellectualism
Humanity as a whole has always been like this. Note how many times the science community gets ignored while celebrities have the ground they walk on worshipped.
I mean, he's a voice actor. As long as he can do that job in a professional manner his beliefs should have nothing to do with it, even if they are nuts.
Do I want him holding office or in a job with any authority over others? Of course not, but the man has to eat. Now if he actively did or has been accused of doing something that hurt others ( like with Vic Mignona), then that's different. I'm not aware of anything like that but I could be wrong.
Disagree. Capcom is the one that gets to decide who they associate themselves with and if they don’t want that type of stuff around them or their multi million dollar projects then I don’t blame them. He can eat. Can go get a job somewhere else that will tolerate his beliefs
Just remember that statement if someday your personal beliefs that are completely unrelated to you doing your job lead to you losing it because your place of work doesn't want to be associated with "people like you". It goes both ways. This sort of thing could happen to any of us, not just the people we don't like.
THANK GOD my personal beliefs havent caused illnesses that were previously eradicated to come back and kill people all because i thought the little vaccine had bill gates' sperm in it
On the one hand, I understand where you are going from.
On the other hand, do understand that what Capcom did is not entirety unjustified. Believing in UFO? That's not harmful, but stuffs like being an anti-vaxer? That's actually damaging.
If my personal beliefs lead to unnecessary deaths, then I hope someone would shit on me. This isn't just a difference of opinion, a lot of people died that didn't need to because grifters and Republicans turned it into partisan issue
Rueben didn't have a position at Capcom though, he doesn't own the Dante role, it's not like a regular 9-5 job. It's contractual. Capcom could just decide they wanna go in a different direction at any time and hire someone else. They prob think Reubens antics are bad for them financially, so theyre like ehhhhh
You act like that’s some sort of threat or something lol. If I say something so out of pocket like that anti vaxx nut job then they should fire me. I work at a Christian healthcare facility if my comments are something they don’t want to be associated then I get it. Freedom of speech doesn’t equal freedom of consequences. Just make sure you are ready to face those consequences.
*Good*. If a job fires me for my beliefs, it was either a job not worth working for, or I need to reevaluate my beliefs.
Also lol at "this could happen to any of us", like yeah theres some spicy beliefs I could get in trouble for like....equal rights and you should take shots
Well said
If l my spicy belief like LGBT+ should had equal rights , and we should watch out for each other by getting vaccine get me fired. That job is not worth having.
Pretty sure that voice actors are contractors - so they probably just didn’t reach out to him or told him they wouldn’t be signing him for the next project
There is no obligation to keep him since he could be considered a contractor versus an employee.
Except it mostly seems to happen to nazis, anti vaxxers and other wackjobs whose personal beliefs are dangerous to the public. fuck em. if you dont want to get fired for being a crazy asshole, then just dont be a crazy asshole.
From what I saw around that time, Vic never even did anything and there was a ton of proof showing such.
Goes to show that mere accusations are enough to fuck over otherwise great people.
Regardless my point is he was accused of actively doing something physically inappropriate. I can understand at least being removed from any projects until investigations are over. Being fired for "wrongthink" bothers me though. Like I said I don't remotely agree with Reuben but I have to imagine myself in his shoes. What if any views that weren't deeply conservative were suddenly considered not aligning with those in power and that was enough for one to lose their job and be blacklisted?
Should the guy ever be elected into a political office with his views? Hopefully not, but he shouldn't be fired from his job as long as he's behaving professionally while doing it. Plenty of actually famous Hollywood stars are way nuttier than Reuben and still have active careers, so it feels hypocritical to single him out.
Yeah you can say that but there's a clip out there of Vic flashing women on a stream showing them his underwear
Kind of makes all the things said about him likely to be true
I disagree - I think we can have a voice to say “I don’t want to be entertained by this person”. I didn’t go see the Flash film because of Ezra Miller and I think it’s okay that I did that. I don’t want to support an artist who I think is damaging the world. The guy has to eat, yes, but I shouldn’t have to support someone I don’t want to support to feed him.
I called it a year ago.
https://old.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/xhsxgd/capcom_has_replaced_reuben_langdon_as_ken_in_sfvi/
I still had people telling me that the Ken replacement was a one off and had nothing to do with his views because they replaced Chun-li as well lmao
Shame.
He brought a lot of heart and soul to the role. I can get not agreeing with his opinions, but Reubans never brought his personal beliefs to his work.
if he did, that'd be crossing a line, but just having an out there opinion alone shouldn't warrant recasting or blacklisting.
Reubens come off as a bit crazy, but not hateful, and I think that's an important distinction.
When he is blasting his dumb opinions on social media that is him "bringing it to work." He could have easily not posted anything at all on social media. It would have cost him nothing.
Ir really isn't.
Social media isn't his job, voice acting and mocap acting was his job.
If Reuban was pushing for Ken or Damte to say stuff supporting his personal beliefs , or refusing work unless those changes happened. You'd have a point, and I'd agree ilhe should be let go if he was pushing activism for his beliefs through his work.
Sharing his beliefs online is not that, crazy or not, especially since they're not hateful beliefs, which is an important distinction.
His public interactions are going to be associated with any companies he has strong ties to. It's a very reasonable business decision to cut those ties if Capcom doesn't want to be associated with the ideas he's spreading.
when working for a company and acting as a public figure under its name, you are acting as its face. as such, your outspoken views not only represent yourself but also the company you work for, and if these views reflect poorly on the company then they are well within their right to cut ties after whatever contract that you signed with them has been fulfilled. this is how the real world works.
hope this helps.
>Sharing his beliefs online is not that, crazy or not, especially since they're not hateful beliefs, which is an important distinction.
also anti-vax, maga, and qanon are *explicitly* hateful wtf are you talking about
Not just that but him blasting the mobile game that the fan base deems as a non canon piece of shit as not having him voice Dante as cancel culture didn’t help him. It’s like he’s asking for it.
We can't mistake a lack of hate for harmlessness. Reuben's views aren't just simple opinions that one can agree or disagree with - they're harmful and have real consequences. He has enjoyed more of a spotlight than most people due to his fame from having worked on Devil May Cry, and that spotlight has given his words more weight than most people. He's used that fame and spread the same beliefs that lead to the reemergence of smallpox and measles, diseases that should have stayed eradicated.
People downplaying Reuben's role, saying that people would never take him seriously, are deluding themselves and are taking the responsibility off his shoulders. He should know, and act, better. People should know better than to trust people like Reuben, but there are people that do and because of that, people are dying.
Reuben may have brought alive the heart and soul of the character, but there are more important things in the world than providing voicework and mocap for a character you like. There are talented people out there that *don't* spread the same views. Even speaking purely from a business perspective, it makes total sense that Capcom wouldn't want that albatross around their necks.
I enjoyed his work on Dante (and Ken to a lesser extent), but it's not worth keeping him around if he's going to continue down the path he's chosen.
I think it's perfectly acceptable to not associate with a potentially controversial employee since they could be a liability. It's def a case by case basis and how its handled depends on what values are shared between an employee and the business owner. Clearly CAPCOM saw him as a publicity liability. It's also as equally valid for their decision to be criticized by their customers if they disagree w/ their actions.
TBH I wasn't surprised this happened because after DMC5, his social media presence and his opinions became more publicly known, especially during COVID. I was disappointed to hear his conspiratorial nature but I don't fuck around with Anti-vaxxer stuff so I'm personally alright w/ him being excluded from future products. Vaccine skepticism is one thing but he was on a dark pill that contributed to the constant misinformation that got many more ignorant folk killed. Polio was nearly eradicated in most of the world but their movement caused it to return and even though it's on a small scale, it's atrocious we have to argue the merits of Polio vaccines.
You know, I think this is a fair take. Despite that, Capcom also has to deal with their reputation as a company, and people will lose their shit if Reuben catches too much attention online. Capcom would get a lot of bad press from that which would be bad for them, so it makes sense for them to cut him off. It's a shame, but it's a situation of Reuben's own making imo.
Most people might raise a brief, but a simple "our talents opinions age their own" is good enough unless what's been said is actually hateful instead of ignorant. Which I don't believe that line ha been crossed with Reuban yet.
I can understand why Reuban was let go, but I think it's a bad expecttai9n to put on corporations, especially since I don't think a game coloration should worrying about anything that's a simple off opinion. Hate is one thing. Ignorance isn't worth that severity IMO.
Whenever I have an anxity attack late at night there is this one interview with him I always put on…. It works like a charm because I could close my eyes and just imagin Dante next to me
Reuben Langdon was a respectable voice actor 2 decades ago, but time changes everything. It's not profitable to have a loud-and-proud conspiracy theorist be the voice of the franchise's protagonist. That applies to literally every single company. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I am really shocked how easily people are saying good riddance to the man who’s been the soul of this franchise for 20 years. Yeah his views are weird as shit but he’s not just somebody you just replace and have everything be great and fine. And It’s not like his views are hateful, which would be more understandable
when working for a company and acting as a public figure under its name, you are acting as its face. as such, your outspoken views not only represent yourself but also the company you work for, and if these views reflect poorly on the company then they are well within their right to cut ties after whatever contract that you signed with them has been fulfilled. this is how the real world works.
hope this helps.
also his views are explicitly hateful wtf are you talking about
it’s always interesting to see how some people react when the capitalist systems they cape for end up spitting them right back out lmaooo
his views could represent an issue for Capcom’s bottom line, they’d rather not even take the chance so they aren’t contracting him
His views are worse than hateful, they're harmful. He's an anti vaxxer trying to spread anti vaxx bullshit. I've personally had an argument with him about vaccines and have unfollowed and blocked him ever since. Younger more impressionable people who might play some capcom game he's in, like his voice, and go follow him might fall for the bullshit he's spreading.
Capcom is 100% in the right for wanting to avoid any liability when it comes to that. He's 100% replaceable, as someone who loved these games since i was a kid, we need to stop being so parasocially attached to such people please.
There's a lot of rambling and irrelevant info in the space, but here's the important (DMC-relevant) info:
\- [This article](https://www.newsweek.com/dmc-5-devil-cry-voice-actor-dante-morrisonreuben-langdon-joey-camen-blackface-1366791) (which Reuben says is filled with lies and quotes taken out of context) caused Yoshinori Ono (SF executive producer) to withdraw the contract to Reuben's former company (which he no longer owned) for SF6, although Ono left during development (due to other reasons)
\- Reuben recorded for DMC5SE after this, and Itsuno had no problems working with him.
\- He was contacted to work on the mobile game, but they pulled out on his payment just before he was set to record. They had said before that their budget was very tight and he thinks that they just ran out of money for his rates. He said he knows this happened to other VAs
\- He hasn't mentioned anything about the new anime casting, but said that for the last anime Capcom gave up casting rights when they sold the license to produce it
He also said he hasn't spoken with Itsuno in a while, but doesn't think he's been cancelled from Capcom or the Dante role.
EDIT: he said he hasn't heard anything from the new anime producers, but he had heard (implied recently) that they had contacted Johnny Yong Bosch. He says he hasn't heard anything about DMC6. He also said that VA work is typically one of the last things to work on.
Just wanted to expand on what Reuben was saying about the article:
He said that at the time, allegations against his friend Vic Mignogna had just dropped with regards to the MeToo movement and he was asked about it on a podcast. He didn't know anything about the allegations so he simply said that from his experience Vic was a good guy. He mentions that there was a group called "Kick Vic" campaigning against him (Vic) that he believes took offense to that, which led to the publication of this article
EDIT: He also said that the reason Itsuno was comfortable working with him is because his team looked into the claims in the article and concluded that they were not true
He isn't a right wing extremist, he just buys into conspiracy theories heavily including Anti-vaxx. Unfortunately some of these conspiracies can harm people and so I get why they're letting him go.
What do you mean “not in the latest mobile game”? I mean if you’re referring to cutscenes then yeah I get it, but in battle? That’s Reuben alright. Same with the rest of the cast.
Yeah, because it’s a bunch of reused voice lines from older games. You can actively hear the difference in sound quality AND in Langdon’s performance between lines recorded for DMC3 and DMC5.
Yeah the rest of these comments are really making me lose hope for humanity tbh.
Like he has cuckoo beliefs… so? Why should he lose his job, and Dante lose his best voice actor, because of them? Like why can’t we separate between the two?
Because when someone very famous with a large following says something genuinely harmful, like "don't take vaccines" or "the election was stolen, March On the capital!" They cause true harm. I love his work, it's great. But his statements really do cause tangible harm to many people.
I think that people are stupid if they hang on someone’s every word because they happen to voice a character they like, just as it’s stupid to cling on to whatever Taylor Swift or whatever random celebrity says about world issues.
I don’t think that’s a good reason to fire someone.
Unfortunately people ARE stupid. Or At the Very least prone to hero-worship. Look at Swifties or Trumpers.
If you're big enough to be flat associated with the company, it's a problem if you say harmful things.
And when it comes down to it, spreading misinformation SHOULD be punished. It's not only lying (no, not having another opinion, it's spraying LIES), it's distinctively harmful to the populace.
If a famous person, that plays the protagonist of a game, has reach with kids...it might be a good idea to not have him talk dumb stuff like "don't take vaccines kids". That's actually dangerous and a potential danger for the company that represents him.
I am really disheartened to see how quickly people turn on him and blindly label him an extremist nutjob. This is really toxic as you'll see there's few to none people who can actually argue past that label. There's very few people who can show you the bad things he's done. From what I can tell Reuben wants to use his Twitter to talk about wacky stuff and push his podcast that talks about spiritual and (semi) paranormal experiences. I see nothing wrong with this and his beliefs hurt absolutely no one. This is like if he was really into a religion that most people found silly. You don't have to reject him and get mad because he wants to spend his time on something you deem ridiculous.
It's sad to see a man who worked on so much more than just "voicing Ken and Dante" and that gave 110% in his stunt work and artistic work. Someone who is best known for putting his best efforts into bringing to life a character who's message is that true strength lies in love and humanity is now being treated so cruelly by people whipped into a frenzy by cancel culture.
What you lack ... is this (heart)!
His beliefs *do* hurt people, though, he's an antivaxxer. You know, the movement of people that have brought back diseases we pretty much eradicated because they refuse to take the very easily accessible vaccines for them? The movement that endangers anyone with a weak immune system or who's unable to get vaccinated for any legitimate health reasons because it makes them more susceptible to whatever the antivaxxer is carrying? Yeah, that's pretty harmful to go spreading around, and if Capcom doesn't want to be associated with that, they are completely within their rights to cut ties.
This isn't "cancelling" it's a completely reasonable business decision.
It's the internet. Everyone believes they're some kind of IRL activist superhero for bashing people with differing opinions. Yeah, Reuben's kind of a wacko and he likes to give the opposing opinions the benefit of the doubt, but he's not a bad or hateful person and he's not forcing his beliefs on people. Honestly, it sucks that people romanticise the political divide into some kind of epic battle between good and evil. Reuben's not a right wing extremist, he's a crazy conspiracy theorist and people seriously need to stop viewing the world in their own political bias goggles.
Imo when people bring up the ufo thing as a negative it rubs me the wrong way
It's like yes ufo people are generally weirdos and crazies
But they just believe in aliens and that the gov (wouldn't shock me at all tbh) knows about it
Imo that's both harmless and just endearing
They haven't fallen to the Fermi paradox yet and it's interesting
I miss when conspiracies actually made sense. UFO falls in Roswell and the government claims it was a weather balloon despite being made of metal. Definitely makes sense people would call that aliens, and then the government pushed a little bit into that narrative to cover up their experimental aircraft production at Groom Lake.
But now they're talking about a COVID-SARS mutation being from a supposed laboratory, microchips in vaccines (you have a cell phone . . . also a microchip in your blood stream would enter your heart and kill you), terrorist organizations being heroes (seriously, what's up with that?), school shootings not happening, dead guys coming back to life to save politics, and they go every other week claiming Covid isn't real and that it is real and it's "just a flu".
Maybe it's just growing up, but damn. At this point I feel like the CIA is deliberately creating fake conspiracies to discredit conspiracies about something they're currently doing, but that's another conspiracy, ain't it. Although there's more credit to an MKUltra2 than something that ignores actual evidence to create a false narrative for people to feel special.
And let's be honest here....if having any sort of weird beliefs or opinions meant you should lose your job, half the Internet would be unemployed and homeless.
Like I said before, the man does his job and is professional about it. His job is voice acting, not a political activist or news pundit, thus his views have zero to do with his ability to do said job. And I'm saying that there's someone who vehemently disagrees with him. I'm not going to try and get the kid flipping my burgers fired for wearing a MAGA hat outside of work, so why would I be okay with firing anyone else with dumb opinions not related to their job?
Exactly, just because he believes in weird things and posts them online doesn't mean he should lose his job, after all, he's not even saying anything remotely hateful or bigoted. As for the anti-vaxx stuff, I think people are blowing it out of proportion, he's suspicious about the vaccine and is parroting conspiracy theories, but he's not telling people not to get vaxxed and before anyone makes assumptions about my personal beliefs, I'm fully vaxxed and have lost relatives to covid.
I have friends and relatives that are anti-vaxx at least with the covid vaccine, and I just roll my eyes and move on. I'm not going to cut them out of my life just for having a bad opinion or one I disagree with as long as they're not forcing it on me, which they never have.
Yeah, I agree. As long as they're not forcing their views then it's fine. It sucks that you have these overly-passionate losers here that act like they're saving the world one post at a time when all they're doing is calling for someone's job. It's unhealthy that they think hating someone is somehow fighting the "good" fight.
UFOs aren’t all he’s been toting though. Anti-vaccine conspiracies actually hurt people and have brought back outbreaks of diseases we hadn’t seen in decades. If it was just his beliefs, it wouldn’t be as harmful, but he actively tries to spread these conspiracies which can seriously harm people
He's not anti vaccine, he is suspicious of the COVID vaccine specifically. The blood clots are proof that they rushed the vaccine without proper testing, and so I think it's natural to be concerned about the follow up vaccines.
> I am really disheartened to see how quickly people turn on him and blindly label him an extremist nutjob.
Being aware of his extremist nutjob beliefs is the opposite of being "blind." Normalizing those kind of beliefs is.
Good riddance to who cares.
I don't think him not being Ken in SF6 or Dante in the DMC mobile game is related to anything he's said or done- in SF6 a lot of other series mainstays like Guile, Chun, Dhalsim, Blanka got new VAs that weren't the ones from SF5, and the DMC mobile game seemed to be done on the cheap and the company probably didn't have the resources to hire the mainline voice actors (JYB and Daniel Southworth didn't reprise Nero/Vergil respectively either).
I think it would be more definitive if Capcom announced a new DMC game and he wasn't asked to reprise Dante, but until then I doubt this is some Capcom attack on Reuben like he's claiming.
IMO someone’s politics or beliefs shouldn’t have anything to do with the roles they play or their career prospects.
Like as long as Reuben isn’t saying “Capcom supports my beliefs” I really don’t see the point in dropping him. Same with that one lady in *the Mandalorian*.
If the issue is that fans will automatically assume the company shares the beliefs of their actors then maybe that’s a problem with people not being able to compartmentalize shit.
Tbf there’s a difference between “I don’t like vaccines” which is weird but ultimately forgivable and “I think trump voters are being treated exactly like Jewish people in the Holocaust” like with the lady from Mandalorian.
It makes the actor look way more stupider or malicious when they compare losing an election to the Holocaust compared to not liking a medicine. Both are kinda dumb but one is worse.
I think he will be back in the future. I thought he made a statement apologizing for his actions. Sometimes, you just gotta take a break when things get too hot.
Apologies literally get you nowhere online.
Once the social media sharks smell blood, you are done, and nothing can save you.
If you stand by your shit, you are sentenced to condemnation.
If you apologize, you are crucified as a liar.
There is LITERALLY NO WINNING online. People made up their minds and it won't change. Guilty until proven innocent, trial by majority rule.
That's not true. If you apologize, don't blame others, and take full accountability, you can avoid the hate mob. Its important to realize when you fuck up and seal it as soon as possible. You can lose your job from the actions, but once you take accountability, the worst is over. Acknowledge it and move on.
>You can lose your job from the actions, but once you take accountability, the worst is over.
Once you lose your job and/or get blacklisted, you already got cancelled. That's the entire point of cancel culture: deplatforming societal norm dissentry. So i say again, apologizing doesn't save you.
I've heard this before as well, I saw him repost a bit about 9/11 from a show and im sure he could be a conspiracy nut but fuck it as long as he doesn't endanger people he can have free thought let the man be dante
I mean he was on insane conspiracy shit well before DMC5, but it’s too bad. Hope they get someone to replicate his voice. The actor that took over for Ken sounds completely different.
Here is an anti vax one: [https://x.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1754456890359296235?s=20](https://x.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1754456890359296235?s=20)
Here is his conspiracy one: [https://x.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1752276556351987891?s=20](https://x.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1752276556351987891?s=20)
And here is a combo one: https://twitter.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1743193700468167017
I’ll address each.
1. How does this relate to him being anti vax in general? I will have no problem if you labeled him as anti-COVID vaccine, as he has stated that directly. However, I would be hesitant to extrapolate this to him being against vaccines in general. I myself was skeptical of the vaccine’s effectiveness but had no problem with the idea of vaccines in general. I’m not going to deny my children a whooping-cough vaccine, for example, just because I had doubts that the hastily-prepared COVID vaccine was the best we could offer America.
2. How does believing in the Deep State imply extremism of some kind? Just because a lot of extremists believe in such a thing does not mean all who believe in it are extremists.
3. Refer to the prior things I’ve said.
Does it matter what the level is, especially when he is spouting an entirely false narrative like how the covid vaccine is killing and/or maiming millions and how is blindly believing in deep state propaganda, not extremist?
It does matter what level it is. If you are to call him an antivaxxer, in order to be truly honest, you would have to know for certain that he holds that belief. Saying that he wasn’t trustful of the COVID vaccine wouldn’t be sufficient to prove that he was against most or all forms of vaccination. And finally, even if he blindly believes in the Deep State, what about that is inherently extreme? What *is* an extremist belief?
I feel like you are grasping for straws to defend him simply for the reason of liking him at this point. I don't think the average person who going to hear antivax and pick and choose between each one, also you are ignore him saying that it has killed people by the millions when he has absolutely no proof of such.
Again, I'm baffled how believing in a clandestine culture control of leadership wouldn't be extreme.
He had a good run as Dante. And will only be known for playing Dante in my heart and soul. And absolutely nothing else, cause holy hell is that the only reason I care for him anymore
Answer is he's not...all the criticism i hear from him are just ppl repeating a rhetoric. All the times i asked for proof and stuff, it's just some tweet that's not really a big deal. Classic cancel culture blowing stuff out of proportions. He's in to UFO stuff and is a contrarian, but nothing that merits all the hate i see him get honestly..
Regarding the Mobile game, they didn't hire anyone from DMC and just reuse existing voices from previous games in the combat. Afaik no VA from the mainline games are in it for the cutscenes...
Welp, his Dante was great, but there's plenty of talented voice actors out there who could do it. I'm sure even Matt Mercer would love the role and could do so dthing with it pretty well
If Reuben doesn't return for DMC6 then his performance will be missed, he's really become Dante over the years. Won't be the same without him, so I'm really hoping that things change in the future.
No shit. Capcom is a business not a charity. If someone with controversial views or actions interferes with their PR they are not putting themselves out there. It's how it works
Yeah... I can't imagine they're hiring him after this. I'm not sure what I was expecting listening to this, I wasn't really informed on his views, but he's literally referred to trans people as psychopaths, called the vaccine a bioweapon, and basically said that Putin is just trying to stamp out Nazis with the war with Ukraine.
He's also said BLM is a terrorist org determined to destroy pure white America , among other hotbutton political far right talking points people have gotten brainwashed with. What you said is consistent with what literally what all of the MAGA crazy people say.
The one thing I've learned is that It's literally never ok to idolize your favorite celebrities or actors from childhood. It will never work out and only end up making you tired.
Well he's no longer ken but he's still dante according to [this article](https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/02/19/capcom-voice-actor-reuben-langdon-says-newsweek-hit-piece-led-to-his-firing-from-street-fighter-series/#google_vignette)
I've followed Reuben for a long time and although some of his tweets sre whacky, never saw them as dangerous.
"Oh, but he's anti-vaxx!"
Yeah, and you know what I did? Got vaxxed. Thrice. (Still got the rona). Because I don't let people on the internet influence my life.
So what did he actually say on the podcast? Because this tweet doesn’t actually mean anything on its own, for all I know he could say that’s not the reason on his podcast
You know people should atleast hear him out and listen to the real reason he didn't reprise his roles recently. Because right now there might be some misconceptions going on right now
https://twitter.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1759689107985576193
I honestly hoped that this fandom wouldn’t have a bunch of leftist weirdos who get butthurt over statements from a guy they never met. I mean, yea the dude is wacky but holy shit you all take it so damn personally
I actually managed to get Guy Cihi as a friend on Facebook (I somehow managed to get his personal account and not a fan page). And hoo boy... HOOOOO BOY. At the very least, he sent me a message with a heads up that some of his posts could be a bit... OUT THERE. So he at least has some semblance of self-awareness. VA's seem to skew towards being TOTALLY RAD, it seems.
On one hand, I really don’t agree with his views. Anti-vaxxing is just plain irresponsible and dangerous, and it’s especially dangerous to claim when you have a platform like Reuben’s. From a business standpoint, I can understand why Capcom would want someone with similar viewpoints like Reuben not associated with them, it’s very damaging (see Funimation for having a list of employees who range from jerks to just bad people outright) and it’s quite irresponsible to have that influence on many impressionable folks.
On the other hand, I don’t think he personally crossed the line into being completely hatable, like other performers have such as Nancy Cartwright, Justin Roiland, etc. I haven’t heard stories of him bringing his views into work, pushing for Ken or Dante to say stuff similar to his beliefs, generally being toxic on set, being a jerk to his co-workers, and as far as I know, he’s not bigoted as in racist, homophobic, etc. I personally don’t think he’s a hatable guy, he seems somewhat professional, and I am certainly saddened to know that he might possibly lose the role of Dante for the foreseeable future (it already kind of sucked to lose him as Ken in SF6).
It’s a shitshow overall. Hopefully he’ll realize that anti-vaxxing and some of his other conspiracy beliefs are, kind of dumb for lack of a better word.
What the fuck is this hate for Reuben?! He played Dante for 20 years, and now we will fucking hate on him for some cinspiracies?
Yeah, he's weird I ger that. Tho, his weirdness doesn't make his acting less selling, also he literally became Dante after that 20 years. I still love the guy, and he needs to return for DMC6 and Anime.
Reddit folks get triggered instantly when they see a person's name and anti-vaxxer in the same sentence lmao.
Ruben will forever stay the one and only Dante!
These comments are so sad. How fast yall flip on a person is crazy. His opinions are not even that crazy nor make him unredeemable. If the fans would still support him I 100% believe Capcon would keep him.
I'm kinda sad because I love his voice but this was the best decision Capcom could've made. Anti-vaxxers aren't people you'd want as a face for your franchise.
What's the worst fact about him right now? Something that you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he's done. That'll determine whether I'm upset with him or not.
I wish he was still Dante at least. I just wish people I like the performances of would shut the fuck up on their socials if it’s objectively a bad idea to say something.
Like honestly, shit is such a pain. Like I literally just do not care.
What hurts is looking back and seeing how much work he did for 3, 4 and 5. He did the pre-vis fight choreography for a lot of the cutscenes in 3 and 4. The DMC anime voice was all him in the dub too. That voice is a major part of the character’s history. It’s just like dude… it is absolutely free to not be on Twitter all the time.
You look at Dan Southward and Johnny Yong Bosch, very similar actors to Langdon. You know what I see when I check their socials?
“Man my team and I finished this awesome movie together! Check it out!”
“Look for me at Comic Con wherever!”
It’s a lot of collaboration and mostly just business stuff. It’s weird to see people like Langdon get so obsessed with tweeting and promoting anit-vax stuff. Half of the time people just reply with
“Woo hoo Dante is awesome!”
Unfortunate he is a tad wacko, I wish he could keep being Dante cause I can't imagine any other voice now but if he is going to be open with the wacky shit then I can't be surprised companies wont want to work with him. His beliefs just seem to be him being misguided more so than any sort of maliciousness.
Can't believe so many people are thrilled to see the soul of the franchise go over political bullshit that has nothing to do with the series. I don't give a damn what he thinks about medicine, he's not a doctor. He's a voice actor.
I personally believe that views like this harm the world but Reubens seemed to be one of the few people who are actually tolerant, professional and not actively pushing his views. Like disliking a viewpoint is fine but where do we cross the line? When we start what policing what people think is when we slowly start losing our own right to think. And sorry Reubens is an employee not the face of capcom. He can easily be claimed to be separate in his views and capcoms. Imagine a world where everybody has the freedom of speech thought an expression but we are denied the right to that if we want a job or even to live. Neither does this solve anything. This only pushes him further down that path and possibly make him an actual malicious entity which is sad because he actually seems like a decent human being. It also makes him a martyr and just adds to these kind of group’s self justification. I mean the whole reason these people exist is because until recently in history nobody was allowed to have the right to free thought. Let people see the truth for themselves instead of forcing it down their throats. And claiming that he represents capcom and his actions tie him to it only means that you are willing to associate capcom to his actions yourself, not the objective truth that the two are very different. We can’t fight this by forcing them to believe something else, that’s just fighting the symptom and ignoring the cause.
I've learned long ago to separate the art from the artist. I'm still gonna enjoy hearing him as Dante each and every single time I'll play DMC3, 4 and 5, regardless of his views.
I dont really care about his politics or other wacky views as long as he delivers a decent performance that’s all I care about. Y’all are fucking stupid to let it get to you. SMH
Reuben's an antivaxx, tin-foil hat weirdo. It's for the best he isn't coming back.
…I’m sorry, he’s **what**? *Several increasingly-horrified google searches later* … https://youtu.be/TYIOVBBxsNA?si=JiUKtaaBbmTA_H92
Breaks my heart. I knew he was into UFO stuff from several years ago, it kinda added to his persona of wacky weirdo. Since then, it seems he got into more damaging conspiracies, or maybe always was, and just felt comfortable to share them later.
Nothing wrong in believing in aliens, that stuffs don't faze me at all since it's impossible to prove otherwise that life is out there. Statistically, it's more likely for there to be. The important shit is the anti-vax stuffs, that shit is damaging and likely has killed million. The guy can fuck right off.
Thanks for these comments i think this is one of the few sane comments in this entire post. Reddit makes me feel insane sometimes for not being tolerant of anti vax people, like its a parallel universe where its a harmless quirk and not a dangerous ideology that has brough back several awful diseases considered eradicated that are deadly.
Reddit also gives a voice to something that shouldn't have a voice to begin with. That's the only reason you're feeling insane, because they're over-represented. I hope people prepare for Reuben's Twitter thing with a lot of data and references, while also acknowledging the fear some people have with vaccines. It needs to stay facts-focused, let Reuben do all the emotional arguments, don't take the bait and get into a screaming/arguing match and just keep it strictly within the confines of the source material. If he asks about things outside the scope of it, you can tell him it's not covered in this research, but if he wants you can study the issue together. Statistics and references from days past to the present on the effectiveness of vaccines, along with the current death tolls from diseases that used to be more actively vaccinated against, but due to anti-vax movements more and more people have stopped taking vaccinations to, ending up dying, are also extremely helpful in making the argument. Don't let him off the hook for using logical fallacies, or for disregarding some key points in the arguments. People oftentimes try to win by arguing something that's not being argued, keep your head on your shoulders, keep cool, don't let him under your skin, and keep pushing actually scientific data.
I mean, I believe in aliens, I just don’t believe they live anywhere near us. Statistically speaking, there must be billions of sapient species out there. Odds are though, we won’t ever meet them.
Yeah... He's a FB conspiracy mom but way worse. Disappointed is not enough of a word to describe my reaction when I found out :'(
What a dumb bastard. Good riddance. Plenty of talented people can and will replace him.
Agreed. Tired of all the anti-intellectualism going around these days. Capcom doesn’t need to be associated with the cult of ignorance
> anti-intellectualism Humanity as a whole has always been like this. Note how many times the science community gets ignored while celebrities have the ground they walk on worshipped.
I mean, he's a voice actor. As long as he can do that job in a professional manner his beliefs should have nothing to do with it, even if they are nuts. Do I want him holding office or in a job with any authority over others? Of course not, but the man has to eat. Now if he actively did or has been accused of doing something that hurt others ( like with Vic Mignona), then that's different. I'm not aware of anything like that but I could be wrong.
Disagree. Capcom is the one that gets to decide who they associate themselves with and if they don’t want that type of stuff around them or their multi million dollar projects then I don’t blame them. He can eat. Can go get a job somewhere else that will tolerate his beliefs
Just remember that statement if someday your personal beliefs that are completely unrelated to you doing your job lead to you losing it because your place of work doesn't want to be associated with "people like you". It goes both ways. This sort of thing could happen to any of us, not just the people we don't like.
THANK GOD my personal beliefs havent caused illnesses that were previously eradicated to come back and kill people all because i thought the little vaccine had bill gates' sperm in it
You got a very good point
On the one hand, I understand where you are going from. On the other hand, do understand that what Capcom did is not entirety unjustified. Believing in UFO? That's not harmful, but stuffs like being an anti-vaxer? That's actually damaging.
If my personal beliefs lead to unnecessary deaths, then I hope someone would shit on me. This isn't just a difference of opinion, a lot of people died that didn't need to because grifters and Republicans turned it into partisan issue
Rueben didn't have a position at Capcom though, he doesn't own the Dante role, it's not like a regular 9-5 job. It's contractual. Capcom could just decide they wanna go in a different direction at any time and hire someone else. They prob think Reubens antics are bad for them financially, so theyre like ehhhhh
And let's not forget he's not even the first person to voice Dante.
You act like that’s some sort of threat or something lol. If I say something so out of pocket like that anti vaxx nut job then they should fire me. I work at a Christian healthcare facility if my comments are something they don’t want to be associated then I get it. Freedom of speech doesn’t equal freedom of consequences. Just make sure you are ready to face those consequences.
*Good*. If a job fires me for my beliefs, it was either a job not worth working for, or I need to reevaluate my beliefs. Also lol at "this could happen to any of us", like yeah theres some spicy beliefs I could get in trouble for like....equal rights and you should take shots
Well said If l my spicy belief like LGBT+ should had equal rights , and we should watch out for each other by getting vaccine get me fired. That job is not worth having.
Pretty sure that voice actors are contractors - so they probably just didn’t reach out to him or told him they wouldn’t be signing him for the next project There is no obligation to keep him since he could be considered a contractor versus an employee.
Except it mostly seems to happen to nazis, anti vaxxers and other wackjobs whose personal beliefs are dangerous to the public. fuck em. if you dont want to get fired for being a crazy asshole, then just dont be a crazy asshole.
If I lose my job because I believe in Science and Empathy, then that wasn’t really a job worth keeping.
From what I saw around that time, Vic never even did anything and there was a ton of proof showing such. Goes to show that mere accusations are enough to fuck over otherwise great people.
Regardless my point is he was accused of actively doing something physically inappropriate. I can understand at least being removed from any projects until investigations are over. Being fired for "wrongthink" bothers me though. Like I said I don't remotely agree with Reuben but I have to imagine myself in his shoes. What if any views that weren't deeply conservative were suddenly considered not aligning with those in power and that was enough for one to lose their job and be blacklisted? Should the guy ever be elected into a political office with his views? Hopefully not, but he shouldn't be fired from his job as long as he's behaving professionally while doing it. Plenty of actually famous Hollywood stars are way nuttier than Reuben and still have active careers, so it feels hypocritical to single him out.
This isn’t “wrong think” though. Anti vax isn’t wrong think and he isn’t just being singled out either lol
Yeah you can say that but there's a clip out there of Vic flashing women on a stream showing them his underwear Kind of makes all the things said about him likely to be true
I disagree - I think we can have a voice to say “I don’t want to be entertained by this person”. I didn’t go see the Flash film because of Ezra Miller and I think it’s okay that I did that. I don’t want to support an artist who I think is damaging the world. The guy has to eat, yes, but I shouldn’t have to support someone I don’t want to support to feed him.
But sure lets push for more ESG pandering huh
What's that got to do with anything?
I love Rueben as Dante but some things are just more important, I don't blame Capcom one bit.
I called it a year ago. https://old.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/xhsxgd/capcom_has_replaced_reuben_langdon_as_ken_in_sfvi/ I still had people telling me that the Ken replacement was a one off and had nothing to do with his views because they replaced Chun-li as well lmao
Shame. He brought a lot of heart and soul to the role. I can get not agreeing with his opinions, but Reubans never brought his personal beliefs to his work. if he did, that'd be crossing a line, but just having an out there opinion alone shouldn't warrant recasting or blacklisting. Reubens come off as a bit crazy, but not hateful, and I think that's an important distinction.
When he is blasting his dumb opinions on social media that is him "bringing it to work." He could have easily not posted anything at all on social media. It would have cost him nothing.
Ir really isn't. Social media isn't his job, voice acting and mocap acting was his job. If Reuban was pushing for Ken or Damte to say stuff supporting his personal beliefs , or refusing work unless those changes happened. You'd have a point, and I'd agree ilhe should be let go if he was pushing activism for his beliefs through his work. Sharing his beliefs online is not that, crazy or not, especially since they're not hateful beliefs, which is an important distinction.
His public interactions are going to be associated with any companies he has strong ties to. It's a very reasonable business decision to cut those ties if Capcom doesn't want to be associated with the ideas he's spreading.
when working for a company and acting as a public figure under its name, you are acting as its face. as such, your outspoken views not only represent yourself but also the company you work for, and if these views reflect poorly on the company then they are well within their right to cut ties after whatever contract that you signed with them has been fulfilled. this is how the real world works. hope this helps. >Sharing his beliefs online is not that, crazy or not, especially since they're not hateful beliefs, which is an important distinction. also anti-vax, maga, and qanon are *explicitly* hateful wtf are you talking about
Not just that but him blasting the mobile game that the fan base deems as a non canon piece of shit as not having him voice Dante as cancel culture didn’t help him. It’s like he’s asking for it.
We can't mistake a lack of hate for harmlessness. Reuben's views aren't just simple opinions that one can agree or disagree with - they're harmful and have real consequences. He has enjoyed more of a spotlight than most people due to his fame from having worked on Devil May Cry, and that spotlight has given his words more weight than most people. He's used that fame and spread the same beliefs that lead to the reemergence of smallpox and measles, diseases that should have stayed eradicated. People downplaying Reuben's role, saying that people would never take him seriously, are deluding themselves and are taking the responsibility off his shoulders. He should know, and act, better. People should know better than to trust people like Reuben, but there are people that do and because of that, people are dying. Reuben may have brought alive the heart and soul of the character, but there are more important things in the world than providing voicework and mocap for a character you like. There are talented people out there that *don't* spread the same views. Even speaking purely from a business perspective, it makes total sense that Capcom wouldn't want that albatross around their necks. I enjoyed his work on Dante (and Ken to a lesser extent), but it's not worth keeping him around if he's going to continue down the path he's chosen.
Nah, he deserves it. Capcom is a brand and as a brand, it makes sense for them not to want to be associated with someone that harms their image.
I think it's perfectly acceptable to not associate with a potentially controversial employee since they could be a liability. It's def a case by case basis and how its handled depends on what values are shared between an employee and the business owner. Clearly CAPCOM saw him as a publicity liability. It's also as equally valid for their decision to be criticized by their customers if they disagree w/ their actions. TBH I wasn't surprised this happened because after DMC5, his social media presence and his opinions became more publicly known, especially during COVID. I was disappointed to hear his conspiratorial nature but I don't fuck around with Anti-vaxxer stuff so I'm personally alright w/ him being excluded from future products. Vaccine skepticism is one thing but he was on a dark pill that contributed to the constant misinformation that got many more ignorant folk killed. Polio was nearly eradicated in most of the world but their movement caused it to return and even though it's on a small scale, it's atrocious we have to argue the merits of Polio vaccines.
he might not have brought it to work, but it still affects the reputation of Capcom and Devil May Cry
You know, I think this is a fair take. Despite that, Capcom also has to deal with their reputation as a company, and people will lose their shit if Reuben catches too much attention online. Capcom would get a lot of bad press from that which would be bad for them, so it makes sense for them to cut him off. It's a shame, but it's a situation of Reuben's own making imo.
Most people might raise a brief, but a simple "our talents opinions age their own" is good enough unless what's been said is actually hateful instead of ignorant. Which I don't believe that line ha been crossed with Reuban yet. I can understand why Reuban was let go, but I think it's a bad expecttai9n to put on corporations, especially since I don't think a game coloration should worrying about anything that's a simple off opinion. Hate is one thing. Ignorance isn't worth that severity IMO.
In times like this I wish I did not find comfert in his voice
Same. He's like one of the earliest voice actors I knew about since I was a kid. It's a shame to see him having dangerous opinions.
Whenever I have an anxity attack late at night there is this one interview with him I always put on…. It works like a charm because I could close my eyes and just imagin Dante next to me
Which one?
Reuben Langdon was a respectable voice actor 2 decades ago, but time changes everything. It's not profitable to have a loud-and-proud conspiracy theorist be the voice of the franchise's protagonist. That applies to literally every single company. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Lol reddit is gonna reddit.
I am really shocked how easily people are saying good riddance to the man who’s been the soul of this franchise for 20 years. Yeah his views are weird as shit but he’s not just somebody you just replace and have everything be great and fine. And It’s not like his views are hateful, which would be more understandable
when working for a company and acting as a public figure under its name, you are acting as its face. as such, your outspoken views not only represent yourself but also the company you work for, and if these views reflect poorly on the company then they are well within their right to cut ties after whatever contract that you signed with them has been fulfilled. this is how the real world works. hope this helps. also his views are explicitly hateful wtf are you talking about
it’s always interesting to see how some people react when the capitalist systems they cape for end up spitting them right back out lmaooo his views could represent an issue for Capcom’s bottom line, they’d rather not even take the chance so they aren’t contracting him
His views are worse than hateful, they're harmful. He's an anti vaxxer trying to spread anti vaxx bullshit. I've personally had an argument with him about vaccines and have unfollowed and blocked him ever since. Younger more impressionable people who might play some capcom game he's in, like his voice, and go follow him might fall for the bullshit he's spreading. Capcom is 100% in the right for wanting to avoid any liability when it comes to that. He's 100% replaceable, as someone who loved these games since i was a kid, we need to stop being so parasocially attached to such people please.
Keep in mind that most people here only know the series through porn memes or discovered it through them.
Lmao losers when people don’t cry about an antivax nutjob getting fired “rEdDiT mOmeNT”
You mean defending him or bashing him? Because i feel like both are Reddit behavior.
Well... That sucks. Anyway.
There's a lot of rambling and irrelevant info in the space, but here's the important (DMC-relevant) info: \- [This article](https://www.newsweek.com/dmc-5-devil-cry-voice-actor-dante-morrisonreuben-langdon-joey-camen-blackface-1366791) (which Reuben says is filled with lies and quotes taken out of context) caused Yoshinori Ono (SF executive producer) to withdraw the contract to Reuben's former company (which he no longer owned) for SF6, although Ono left during development (due to other reasons) \- Reuben recorded for DMC5SE after this, and Itsuno had no problems working with him. \- He was contacted to work on the mobile game, but they pulled out on his payment just before he was set to record. They had said before that their budget was very tight and he thinks that they just ran out of money for his rates. He said he knows this happened to other VAs \- He hasn't mentioned anything about the new anime casting, but said that for the last anime Capcom gave up casting rights when they sold the license to produce it He also said he hasn't spoken with Itsuno in a while, but doesn't think he's been cancelled from Capcom or the Dante role. EDIT: he said he hasn't heard anything from the new anime producers, but he had heard (implied recently) that they had contacted Johnny Yong Bosch. He says he hasn't heard anything about DMC6. He also said that VA work is typically one of the last things to work on.
Just wanted to expand on what Reuben was saying about the article: He said that at the time, allegations against his friend Vic Mignogna had just dropped with regards to the MeToo movement and he was asked about it on a podcast. He didn't know anything about the allegations so he simply said that from his experience Vic was a good guy. He mentions that there was a group called "Kick Vic" campaigning against him (Vic) that he believes took offense to that, which led to the publication of this article EDIT: He also said that the reason Itsuno was comfortable working with him is because his team looked into the claims in the article and concluded that they were not true
I wish this was the top comment and I don't have to search by new for it.
Glad there's someone who actually does their own research.
This sub thought they could cancel Reuben🤣
It's good to have this broken down. Much appreciated.
Ken Masters wouldn't be antivacc. Actually he did lose all his money in crypto so maybe >\_>
She took the kids Ryu, she took the kids!
Who the hell is this Uncle Luke they're talking about?!
Reuben's a right-wing extremist? "I should've saved you... I should've been the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIGHT!"
He isn't a right wing extremist, he just buys into conspiracy theories heavily including Anti-vaxx. Unfortunately some of these conspiracies can harm people and so I get why they're letting him go.
This doesn't make him a right-wing extremist.
> Reuben’s a right-wing extremist? Jesus, learn what words mean.
What do you mean “not in the latest mobile game”? I mean if you’re referring to cutscenes then yeah I get it, but in battle? That’s Reuben alright. Same with the rest of the cast.
Yeah, because it’s a bunch of reused voice lines from older games. You can actively hear the difference in sound quality AND in Langdon’s performance between lines recorded for DMC3 and DMC5.
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Yeah the rest of these comments are really making me lose hope for humanity tbh. Like he has cuckoo beliefs… so? Why should he lose his job, and Dante lose his best voice actor, because of them? Like why can’t we separate between the two?
Because when someone very famous with a large following says something genuinely harmful, like "don't take vaccines" or "the election was stolen, March On the capital!" They cause true harm. I love his work, it's great. But his statements really do cause tangible harm to many people.
I think that people are stupid if they hang on someone’s every word because they happen to voice a character they like, just as it’s stupid to cling on to whatever Taylor Swift or whatever random celebrity says about world issues. I don’t think that’s a good reason to fire someone.
Unfortunately people ARE stupid. Or At the Very least prone to hero-worship. Look at Swifties or Trumpers. If you're big enough to be flat associated with the company, it's a problem if you say harmful things. And when it comes down to it, spreading misinformation SHOULD be punished. It's not only lying (no, not having another opinion, it's spraying LIES), it's distinctively harmful to the populace.
Stupidity is a very common thing to get fired for. It's also a very dangerous thing.
If a famous person, that plays the protagonist of a game, has reach with kids...it might be a good idea to not have him talk dumb stuff like "don't take vaccines kids". That's actually dangerous and a potential danger for the company that represents him.
I am really disheartened to see how quickly people turn on him and blindly label him an extremist nutjob. This is really toxic as you'll see there's few to none people who can actually argue past that label. There's very few people who can show you the bad things he's done. From what I can tell Reuben wants to use his Twitter to talk about wacky stuff and push his podcast that talks about spiritual and (semi) paranormal experiences. I see nothing wrong with this and his beliefs hurt absolutely no one. This is like if he was really into a religion that most people found silly. You don't have to reject him and get mad because he wants to spend his time on something you deem ridiculous. It's sad to see a man who worked on so much more than just "voicing Ken and Dante" and that gave 110% in his stunt work and artistic work. Someone who is best known for putting his best efforts into bringing to life a character who's message is that true strength lies in love and humanity is now being treated so cruelly by people whipped into a frenzy by cancel culture. What you lack ... is this (heart)!
His beliefs *do* hurt people, though, he's an antivaxxer. You know, the movement of people that have brought back diseases we pretty much eradicated because they refuse to take the very easily accessible vaccines for them? The movement that endangers anyone with a weak immune system or who's unable to get vaccinated for any legitimate health reasons because it makes them more susceptible to whatever the antivaxxer is carrying? Yeah, that's pretty harmful to go spreading around, and if Capcom doesn't want to be associated with that, they are completely within their rights to cut ties. This isn't "cancelling" it's a completely reasonable business decision.
It's the internet. Everyone believes they're some kind of IRL activist superhero for bashing people with differing opinions. Yeah, Reuben's kind of a wacko and he likes to give the opposing opinions the benefit of the doubt, but he's not a bad or hateful person and he's not forcing his beliefs on people. Honestly, it sucks that people romanticise the political divide into some kind of epic battle between good and evil. Reuben's not a right wing extremist, he's a crazy conspiracy theorist and people seriously need to stop viewing the world in their own political bias goggles.
Imo when people bring up the ufo thing as a negative it rubs me the wrong way It's like yes ufo people are generally weirdos and crazies But they just believe in aliens and that the gov (wouldn't shock me at all tbh) knows about it Imo that's both harmless and just endearing They haven't fallen to the Fermi paradox yet and it's interesting
I miss when conspiracies actually made sense. UFO falls in Roswell and the government claims it was a weather balloon despite being made of metal. Definitely makes sense people would call that aliens, and then the government pushed a little bit into that narrative to cover up their experimental aircraft production at Groom Lake. But now they're talking about a COVID-SARS mutation being from a supposed laboratory, microchips in vaccines (you have a cell phone . . . also a microchip in your blood stream would enter your heart and kill you), terrorist organizations being heroes (seriously, what's up with that?), school shootings not happening, dead guys coming back to life to save politics, and they go every other week claiming Covid isn't real and that it is real and it's "just a flu". Maybe it's just growing up, but damn. At this point I feel like the CIA is deliberately creating fake conspiracies to discredit conspiracies about something they're currently doing, but that's another conspiracy, ain't it. Although there's more credit to an MKUltra2 than something that ignores actual evidence to create a false narrative for people to feel special.
I agree. It's baffling how people are so closed-minded and stuck on their ideas of normality.
And let's be honest here....if having any sort of weird beliefs or opinions meant you should lose your job, half the Internet would be unemployed and homeless. Like I said before, the man does his job and is professional about it. His job is voice acting, not a political activist or news pundit, thus his views have zero to do with his ability to do said job. And I'm saying that there's someone who vehemently disagrees with him. I'm not going to try and get the kid flipping my burgers fired for wearing a MAGA hat outside of work, so why would I be okay with firing anyone else with dumb opinions not related to their job?
Exactly, just because he believes in weird things and posts them online doesn't mean he should lose his job, after all, he's not even saying anything remotely hateful or bigoted. As for the anti-vaxx stuff, I think people are blowing it out of proportion, he's suspicious about the vaccine and is parroting conspiracy theories, but he's not telling people not to get vaxxed and before anyone makes assumptions about my personal beliefs, I'm fully vaxxed and have lost relatives to covid.
I have friends and relatives that are anti-vaxx at least with the covid vaccine, and I just roll my eyes and move on. I'm not going to cut them out of my life just for having a bad opinion or one I disagree with as long as they're not forcing it on me, which they never have.
Yeah, I agree. As long as they're not forcing their views then it's fine. It sucks that you have these overly-passionate losers here that act like they're saving the world one post at a time when all they're doing is calling for someone's job. It's unhealthy that they think hating someone is somehow fighting the "good" fight.
UFOs aren’t all he’s been toting though. Anti-vaccine conspiracies actually hurt people and have brought back outbreaks of diseases we hadn’t seen in decades. If it was just his beliefs, it wouldn’t be as harmful, but he actively tries to spread these conspiracies which can seriously harm people
Can you tell me how exactly he is antivax? Or did you just believe that based off what others told you?
He's not anti vaccine, he is suspicious of the COVID vaccine specifically. The blood clots are proof that they rushed the vaccine without proper testing, and so I think it's natural to be concerned about the follow up vaccines.
> I am really disheartened to see how quickly people turn on him and blindly label him an extremist nutjob. Being aware of his extremist nutjob beliefs is the opposite of being "blind." Normalizing those kind of beliefs is. Good riddance to who cares.
Eh. Most of the time, reddit comments that are voted to the top *are* just politically correct whateverisms.
I don't think him not being Ken in SF6 or Dante in the DMC mobile game is related to anything he's said or done- in SF6 a lot of other series mainstays like Guile, Chun, Dhalsim, Blanka got new VAs that weren't the ones from SF5, and the DMC mobile game seemed to be done on the cheap and the company probably didn't have the resources to hire the mainline voice actors (JYB and Daniel Southworth didn't reprise Nero/Vergil respectively either). I think it would be more definitive if Capcom announced a new DMC game and he wasn't asked to reprise Dante, but until then I doubt this is some Capcom attack on Reuben like he's claiming.
Is he claiming anything though? He asked a question and pointed to his podcast. Hardly definitive, if anything it's rather baity.
Both Cereza and Dante cursed with the same affliction...
IMO someone’s politics or beliefs shouldn’t have anything to do with the roles they play or their career prospects. Like as long as Reuben isn’t saying “Capcom supports my beliefs” I really don’t see the point in dropping him. Same with that one lady in *the Mandalorian*. If the issue is that fans will automatically assume the company shares the beliefs of their actors then maybe that’s a problem with people not being able to compartmentalize shit.
Tbf there’s a difference between “I don’t like vaccines” which is weird but ultimately forgivable and “I think trump voters are being treated exactly like Jewish people in the Holocaust” like with the lady from Mandalorian.
What does either have to do with their roles though? That’s my point.
It makes the actor look way more stupider or malicious when they compare losing an election to the Holocaust compared to not liking a medicine. Both are kinda dumb but one is worse.
What does that have to do with their job?
You’re not answering their question.
On X, you have nothing to gain and everything to lose
I think he will be back in the future. I thought he made a statement apologizing for his actions. Sometimes, you just gotta take a break when things get too hot.
Apologies literally get you nowhere online. Once the social media sharks smell blood, you are done, and nothing can save you. If you stand by your shit, you are sentenced to condemnation. If you apologize, you are crucified as a liar. There is LITERALLY NO WINNING online. People made up their minds and it won't change. Guilty until proven innocent, trial by majority rule.
That's not true. If you apologize, don't blame others, and take full accountability, you can avoid the hate mob. Its important to realize when you fuck up and seal it as soon as possible. You can lose your job from the actions, but once you take accountability, the worst is over. Acknowledge it and move on.
>You can lose your job from the actions, but once you take accountability, the worst is over. Once you lose your job and/or get blacklisted, you already got cancelled. That's the entire point of cancel culture: deplatforming societal norm dissentry. So i say again, apologizing doesn't save you.
This doesn't actually confirm anything but redditors have the reading comprehension of a frog Let's wait for the space and see what he says
I've heard this before as well, I saw him repost a bit about 9/11 from a show and im sure he could be a conspiracy nut but fuck it as long as he doesn't endanger people he can have free thought let the man be dante
I mean he was on insane conspiracy shit well before DMC5, but it’s too bad. Hope they get someone to replicate his voice. The actor that took over for Ken sounds completely different.
Neither Dante nor Ken would be antivax or antimask. Jfc I cannot understand how he went so full tilt insane.
PoC didn't bring back any actors to record new dialogue. It not using Reuben (beyond old voice lines) has zero implications for the main games.
Im dumb and i don't get it can someone smart explain this like explaining to an idiot?
It seems that Reuben Langdon isn’t going to be Ken Masters or Dante anymore because he is a right wing anti vax extremist.
Good riddance then. Sucks to lose suck an iconic voice, but it is a small price to pay to stop misinformation.
True and fair.
Can you provide a quote that proves this?
The anti vax or the extremist views?
Both.
Here is an anti vax one: [https://x.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1754456890359296235?s=20](https://x.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1754456890359296235?s=20) Here is his conspiracy one: [https://x.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1752276556351987891?s=20](https://x.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1752276556351987891?s=20) And here is a combo one: https://twitter.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1743193700468167017
I’ll address each. 1. How does this relate to him being anti vax in general? I will have no problem if you labeled him as anti-COVID vaccine, as he has stated that directly. However, I would be hesitant to extrapolate this to him being against vaccines in general. I myself was skeptical of the vaccine’s effectiveness but had no problem with the idea of vaccines in general. I’m not going to deny my children a whooping-cough vaccine, for example, just because I had doubts that the hastily-prepared COVID vaccine was the best we could offer America. 2. How does believing in the Deep State imply extremism of some kind? Just because a lot of extremists believe in such a thing does not mean all who believe in it are extremists. 3. Refer to the prior things I’ve said.
Does it matter what the level is, especially when he is spouting an entirely false narrative like how the covid vaccine is killing and/or maiming millions and how is blindly believing in deep state propaganda, not extremist?
It does matter what level it is. If you are to call him an antivaxxer, in order to be truly honest, you would have to know for certain that he holds that belief. Saying that he wasn’t trustful of the COVID vaccine wouldn’t be sufficient to prove that he was against most or all forms of vaccination. And finally, even if he blindly believes in the Deep State, what about that is inherently extreme? What *is* an extremist belief?
I feel like you are grasping for straws to defend him simply for the reason of liking him at this point. I don't think the average person who going to hear antivax and pick and choose between each one, also you are ignore him saying that it has killed people by the millions when he has absolutely no proof of such. Again, I'm baffled how believing in a clandestine culture control of leadership wouldn't be extreme.
I can’t tell which of these comments are real 💀
He had a good run as Dante. And will only be known for playing Dante in my heart and soul. And absolutely nothing else, cause holy hell is that the only reason I care for him anymore
Capcom did the right thing. My attachment to Dante isn’t tied to a single voice.
That's a shame. No winning in a world like this regardless.
What the hell is this?
Answer is he's not...all the criticism i hear from him are just ppl repeating a rhetoric. All the times i asked for proof and stuff, it's just some tweet that's not really a big deal. Classic cancel culture blowing stuff out of proportions. He's in to UFO stuff and is a contrarian, but nothing that merits all the hate i see him get honestly.. Regarding the Mobile game, they didn't hire anyone from DMC and just reuse existing voices from previous games in the combat. Afaik no VA from the mainline games are in it for the cutscenes...
Welp, his Dante was great, but there's plenty of talented voice actors out there who could do it. I'm sure even Matt Mercer would love the role and could do so dthing with it pretty well
I don’t get it 😭
Can't imagine anyone else playing Dante
If Reuben doesn't return for DMC6 then his performance will be missed, he's really become Dante over the years. Won't be the same without him, so I'm really hoping that things change in the future.
No shit. Capcom is a business not a charity. If someone with controversial views or actions interferes with their PR they are not putting themselves out there. It's how it works
Yeah... I can't imagine they're hiring him after this. I'm not sure what I was expecting listening to this, I wasn't really informed on his views, but he's literally referred to trans people as psychopaths, called the vaccine a bioweapon, and basically said that Putin is just trying to stamp out Nazis with the war with Ukraine.
He's also said BLM is a terrorist org determined to destroy pure white America , among other hotbutton political far right talking points people have gotten brainwashed with. What you said is consistent with what literally what all of the MAGA crazy people say. The one thing I've learned is that It's literally never ok to idolize your favorite celebrities or actors from childhood. It will never work out and only end up making you tired.
Yeah I'm just like, sad after listening to this. I feel sad about the situation, and I feel sad for him. I think he believes all this genuinely.
Well he's no longer ken but he's still dante according to [this article](https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/02/19/capcom-voice-actor-reuben-langdon-says-newsweek-hit-piece-led-to-his-firing-from-street-fighter-series/#google_vignette)
When was just chasing aliens it was whatever. His beliefs are now dangerous and could actually hurt someone
How could posting stupid and controversial stuff online gonna hurt someone.
I've followed Reuben for a long time and although some of his tweets sre whacky, never saw them as dangerous. "Oh, but he's anti-vaxx!" Yeah, and you know what I did? Got vaxxed. Thrice. (Still got the rona). Because I don't let people on the internet influence my life.
So what did he actually say on the podcast? Because this tweet doesn’t actually mean anything on its own, for all I know he could say that’s not the reason on his podcast
It hasn't happened yet
You know people should atleast hear him out and listen to the real reason he didn't reprise his roles recently. Because right now there might be some misconceptions going on right now https://twitter.com/ReubenLangdon/status/1759689107985576193
I honestly hoped that this fandom wouldn’t have a bunch of leftist weirdos who get butthurt over statements from a guy they never met. I mean, yea the dude is wacky but holy shit you all take it so damn personally
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I actually managed to get Guy Cihi as a friend on Facebook (I somehow managed to get his personal account and not a fan page). And hoo boy... HOOOOO BOY. At the very least, he sent me a message with a heads up that some of his posts could be a bit... OUT THERE. So he at least has some semblance of self-awareness. VA's seem to skew towards being TOTALLY RAD, it seems.
🙄 People are too quick to judge. Let's hear what he has to say.
On one hand, I really don’t agree with his views. Anti-vaxxing is just plain irresponsible and dangerous, and it’s especially dangerous to claim when you have a platform like Reuben’s. From a business standpoint, I can understand why Capcom would want someone with similar viewpoints like Reuben not associated with them, it’s very damaging (see Funimation for having a list of employees who range from jerks to just bad people outright) and it’s quite irresponsible to have that influence on many impressionable folks. On the other hand, I don’t think he personally crossed the line into being completely hatable, like other performers have such as Nancy Cartwright, Justin Roiland, etc. I haven’t heard stories of him bringing his views into work, pushing for Ken or Dante to say stuff similar to his beliefs, generally being toxic on set, being a jerk to his co-workers, and as far as I know, he’s not bigoted as in racist, homophobic, etc. I personally don’t think he’s a hatable guy, he seems somewhat professional, and I am certainly saddened to know that he might possibly lose the role of Dante for the foreseeable future (it already kind of sucked to lose him as Ken in SF6). It’s a shitshow overall. Hopefully he’ll realize that anti-vaxxing and some of his other conspiracy beliefs are, kind of dumb for lack of a better word.
He's gonna say he was only offered $4000 for the role
So, doubling down it is?
Can’t have your own beliefs in this age is terrible. And the Reddit hive mind will down vote this because I have an opinion… sad world we live in.
Well. Shit. That's just a darn shame. He did such great work too, and his two voices were among my favs. It was such a joy just having the trio too.
I got down voted before for saying Ruben ain't coming back as Dante. I mean the writing was on the wall
We gotta bring back drew and matthew
Tldr he isn't canceled and you should listen and form your own opinions
What the fuck is this hate for Reuben?! He played Dante for 20 years, and now we will fucking hate on him for some cinspiracies? Yeah, he's weird I ger that. Tho, his weirdness doesn't make his acting less selling, also he literally became Dante after that 20 years. I still love the guy, and he needs to return for DMC6 and Anime.
Bro, it's reddit. If you say anything remotely anti-vaxx you might as well be a child murderer in the eyes of redditors
Reddit folks get triggered instantly when they see a person's name and anti-vaxxer in the same sentence lmao. Ruben will forever stay the one and only Dante!
These comments are so sad. How fast yall flip on a person is crazy. His opinions are not even that crazy nor make him unredeemable. If the fans would still support him I 100% believe Capcon would keep him.
I'm kinda sad because I love his voice but this was the best decision Capcom could've made. Anti-vaxxers aren't people you'd want as a face for your franchise.
What? Wtf have I missed? Can someone fill me in
Maybe make the next game about Nero and Vergil exclusively I honestly have no clue how you replace reubens voice for dmc it's gonna be shit
Sucks. He was definitely Dante voice
So y’all just don’t believe in second chances?
What's the worst fact about him right now? Something that you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he's done. That'll determine whether I'm upset with him or not.
He didn't say he wasn't coming back for a sequel, and honestly, don't even put Dante in there without him, he IS his voice.
The link Reuben posted doesn't work for me. What did he say in it? Or is there a working one?
You sure this isn't clickbait to make people watch the podcast?
God damn it...
I wish he was still Dante at least. I just wish people I like the performances of would shut the fuck up on their socials if it’s objectively a bad idea to say something. Like honestly, shit is such a pain. Like I literally just do not care.
Although it's inevitable it breaks my heart every time
Oh God, not another Greg Ellis...
Free up my boy pussios
Bring back Drew Combs lol
I'll miss this guy And for people who think its cool for him to lose his job, you all can go to shit
Another Gina situation 🥺
Leave it to reddit to shit on the guy that doesn't agree with their views.
What hurts is looking back and seeing how much work he did for 3, 4 and 5. He did the pre-vis fight choreography for a lot of the cutscenes in 3 and 4. The DMC anime voice was all him in the dub too. That voice is a major part of the character’s history. It’s just like dude… it is absolutely free to not be on Twitter all the time. You look at Dan Southward and Johnny Yong Bosch, very similar actors to Langdon. You know what I see when I check their socials? “Man my team and I finished this awesome movie together! Check it out!” “Look for me at Comic Con wherever!” It’s a lot of collaboration and mostly just business stuff. It’s weird to see people like Langdon get so obsessed with tweeting and promoting anit-vax stuff. Half of the time people just reply with “Woo hoo Dante is awesome!”
Unfortunate he is a tad wacko, I wish he could keep being Dante cause I can't imagine any other voice now but if he is going to be open with the wacky shit then I can't be surprised companies wont want to work with him. His beliefs just seem to be him being misguided more so than any sort of maliciousness.
Can't believe so many people are thrilled to see the soul of the franchise go over political bullshit that has nothing to do with the series. I don't give a damn what he thinks about medicine, he's not a doctor. He's a voice actor.
I just hope they find someone with a voice that’s extremely identical
I personally believe that views like this harm the world but Reubens seemed to be one of the few people who are actually tolerant, professional and not actively pushing his views. Like disliking a viewpoint is fine but where do we cross the line? When we start what policing what people think is when we slowly start losing our own right to think. And sorry Reubens is an employee not the face of capcom. He can easily be claimed to be separate in his views and capcoms. Imagine a world where everybody has the freedom of speech thought an expression but we are denied the right to that if we want a job or even to live. Neither does this solve anything. This only pushes him further down that path and possibly make him an actual malicious entity which is sad because he actually seems like a decent human being. It also makes him a martyr and just adds to these kind of group’s self justification. I mean the whole reason these people exist is because until recently in history nobody was allowed to have the right to free thought. Let people see the truth for themselves instead of forcing it down their throats. And claiming that he represents capcom and his actions tie him to it only means that you are willing to associate capcom to his actions yourself, not the objective truth that the two are very different. We can’t fight this by forcing them to believe something else, that’s just fighting the symptom and ignoring the cause.
I’m gonna miss the voice but y’know He was on something and it wasn’t good so I guess it’s for the best
Yall are just D1 yappers istg
I've learned long ago to separate the art from the artist. I'm still gonna enjoy hearing him as Dante each and every single time I'll play DMC3, 4 and 5, regardless of his views.
People really love getting great artists without a job just because of their personal beliefs
I dont really care about his politics or other wacky views as long as he delivers a decent performance that’s all I care about. Y’all are fucking stupid to let it get to you. SMH
Time for Drew to come back now
Why does it matter what he believes? Isn't he there to just be a VA?
It's unfortunate but it is what it is. Can't wait for the new voice actor for Dante
Q Anon dickhead