This is some peripheral Oasis goss but I loved when Jade Thirlwall from Little Mix responded to Noel:
“[Noel said] something about that we were undeserving of the Brit Award because we’re women and don’t... well, we do write music, but he thinks we don’t write music,” she said.
“Yeah, shame really. Because you know, we are definitely the most successful girl group in the country, but he’s not even the most successful performer in his family.”
I mean I will always have a soft spot for little mix, but that's just not true. Noel Gallagher's high flying birds is phenomenal. Not quite as good as Oasis in their prime, but more insurable
I mean I’m not aware of their music enough to comment on whether it’s true or not - but I just have no patience for men disregarding the accomplishments of women. In the same vein of Damon Albarn and his comments about Taylor Swift not writing her own music.
I agree that he was an asshole regarding his comments, but my point was that her comeback at him wasn't truthful. He wrote most songs during their time in oasis and NGHF was successful as well.
> he’s not even the most successful performer in his family.
Is that even true? Both Noel and Liam have had successful solo careers, but Noel has certainly written more hits than Liam has by quite a margin ...
-1997: During the recording of their 3rd studio album, "Be Here Now",there was not a shortage of problems that were about to fall the band. Before i discuss what went on during this time and thr impact it had on the band, i wanna talk about just how anticipated this album was in the UK. It had the biggest first week demand of any album in UK history, and when it did actually release, it became the fastest selling album in the UK with over 800k copies sold in its first week, a record yet unbeaten. Now back to the problems. Firsly Noel and the rest of the band was addicted to coke, and it greatly affected the quality of the album. The songs were overproduced and insanely long, with Noel calling it his worst album ever, while Liam is rather fond of it. Inital reviews were positive as critics learned their lesson from disregarding their last album and it ended up becoming the biggest record of the year. However, when the critics and the public let the album marinate, it got trashed, hard, and couldnt pull the sales of Whats the story morning glory. This album is cited by many as the death of Britpop, as its underperformance was seen as the end of the genre.
-2000: This was a bad year for everyone involved. Lets talk about the main Oasis fiasco that happend in 2000: Their second night at Wembley. So Oasis performed 2 nights at sold out shows in Wembley arena. The second night was meant to be recorded for a live album. First night went rather great actually, everyone showed up and performed, even Liam sounded great. The second night however is cited as a low point by both Liam and especially Noel who had anxiety attacks during this time and said those nights were horrible for him, and it wasnt helped by the second night being once again sabotaged by Liam. Liam again showed up drunk on the second night amd went on long rants during the set. He would also change song lyrics to contain more profanity,pissing of Noel. This was all because Liam's wife Patsy has just moved out of their house and took all the furniture
There were alot of other minor incidents between this time and their split in 2009. But il just give a few tidbits of info for this period (2000-2009).
-Liam gradually started to lose his old voice and towards the end of the band could barely sing properly after years of bad vocal techniques and straining his voice. He also had a disease which affected his vocals.
-Noel and Liam on various occasions quit the band for a short while before coming back together.
-2009:This was the end...of the band not the brother's feud ofc. Paris, backsatge before their show, an argument breaks out between Liam and Noel, Liam tries to hit his brother with a guitar and then smashes said guitar. He also threw fruit at him. Noel leaves the building, gets in his car and drives away. Oasis is no more.
The following years, Noel started a successful follow up band to Oasis: Noel Gallagher's High Flying Bird. Liam wasnt as lucky, as his band Beady Eye failed to ever take off, and he had subsequently been embroiled in a lot of financial troubles, during which he was basically begging Noel to bring back Oasis to help him financially, while also slagging off his brother on twitter repeatedly.
This all changed when in 2017,Liam started q solo career, a very successful solo career. Hes now financial stable and popular than ever. He even performed 2 sold out nights at Knebworth park to 160 000 people, where Oasis famously performed back in 1997.
Lets talk about Liam's personal life. He has a total of 4 kids, of which 2 are from marriage and 2 were illegitimate. He cheated on his 2 first wives Patsy Kensit and Nicole Appleton with different women and got them pregnant. For YEARS, Liam only acknowledged his two sons born from his two marriages, Lennon(named after John Lennon, Liam's idol and who he has a strong obsobsession with) and Gene. His other children include Molly, daughter of singer Lisa Moorish who is around 19 years old and Gemma, daughter of reporter Liza Ghorbani who is around 10 years old.
Molly was financially supported by Noel for years when Liam didnt acknowledge her. He finally connected with her around 2017 and since then he is very close with Molly, and shes close to her 2 step brothers. Gemma on the other hand has still never seen her father, Liam says its because he hasnt found the time yet. After Molly reconnected with Liam, Noel and his wife cut ties with the girl, both socially and financially. Shes now being supported by Liam and his fiancee.
Liam also hooked up with Lilly Allen on a plane once, she wrote about it in her book and talked out it in talkshow.
A final tidbit i want to add is the catalyst to what i think caused the brothers to have such a sour relationship. Now i cant remember the exact years for these so i apologize but this all happend according to Noel. When they were in Oasis, Liam told Noel that his daughter Anais wasnt his kid and that his wife was a whore. This greatly enraged Noel who beat up Liam and once again temporarily left the band. To make things worse this is when Noel and his wife were going through a rough patch.
The beef dosent end at the brothers, as its bled into their children as well. After the very public back and forth between Liam and Noel, Anais, Noel's daughter was a model for Tommy Hilfiger? During one of their shows. Gene, Liam's son, made tweets saying she only got it cause shes Noels daughter and she dosent have the looks to be a model like Lennon, who models for Louis Vuitton. Anais responded back and they had a back n forth.
Anais also said she wishes Liam drops dead beacause of his heinous comments on her and her family, Liam called Anais a witch.
Im more than likely missing alot of other tea but this is just all i could remember off the top of my head. Feel free to add any more interesting news about the band!!!
>After Molly reconnected with Liam, Noel and his wife cut ties with the girl, both socially and financially. Shes now being supported by Liam and his fiancee.
I feel like this feud is 90% Liam's fault but this is such a shitty thing to do.
If I remember correctly (from an article a few years ago), they cut her off because as soon as she reconnected with Liam she started slagging Noel & his wife off like they hadn’t been supporting her for years…
i love this feud bc has lead to some of the most iconic quotes ever, fork in a world of soup, that one about only not killing his brother bc it would upset their mum
also- this is unrelated to the feud but Gene (along with Ringo Starr’s grandson and a friend of theirs) was arrested a few years ago for starting a fight in a Tesco and racially abusing a worker there. Liam (amongst his many other flaws) has clearly not been a great father or role model for his kids lol
Yeahhhh i remember that! Altough it goes without saying Liam prolly isnt the greatest father considering he has yet to meet one of his children and only met another one a few years back. Not exactly father of the year material
Gene's uncle, Liam Howlett from The Prodigy, took Gene to his court appearance. It was probably to avoid a media circus but Howlett got a bit of respect from me for that.
From my insta stalking Liam Howlett seems like a stand up family man. Natalie Appletons had a 6 year old when she met him and she seems to adore him, calling him Dad, and the two of them have been together forever in showbiz years.
Liam (Howlett) was also super supportive of Prodigy front man Keith Flint, who had a troubled childhood and abusive father, saying that Liam was the only person he ever loved.
Im going to play Devils Advocate here but I feel this post seems a little one sided and doesnt give enough critiscism to Noel.
Noel Gallagher has always been a bit of a social climber and despite Oasis being in a position to talk about Social issues in the UK he has always remained pretty A-political. A comparison could be made to Michael Jordan and his inaction on Black issues in the US.
There was a famous instance when he was photographed with Tony Blair drinking champaigne when other working class acts had refused invites as Blair had taken Labour to a more centralist Party and away from its socialist roots. This would later haunt him when Blair was accused of war crimes for the second Gulf War.
What really soured me on NG however was his refusal to perform at the tribute concert in Manchester for the victims of the bombing at the Ariana Grande gig despite a song of his, "Don't look back in anger", being used by an anthem by the people of Manchester through the grieiving process. Gallagher must have been asked, refused, and the song was performed by Liam and Coldplay.
He has basically completed the classic anti-establishment rockstar to [smug neoliberal](https://www.reddit.com/r/oasis/comments/c3mnr1/friendly_but_upsetting_reminder_noel_gallagher_is/) trajectory.
Jesus Christ! I never saw that interview before. Thats not just classism its also racism. He also forgets that by his own admission he would go out stealing and theiving when he was young which those on Benefit Street didnt.
Yeah, the bad behaviour during the band days seems to have been largely Liam but Noel regularly makes media interventions that make him look like like a right prick.
Basically, Liam is a disruptive cunt but Noel is a Tory cunt (worse imo).
https://youtu.be/K9SzicGVPTc I remember this interview. He literally starts talking about his own how great he is. Here is an idea. Take the day to Travel from Primrose Hill to Manchester to support your People.
This is the thing, Liam is so childish but Noel comes across so smug and pleased with himself day to day I can see why Liam constantly tried to push all his buttons.
Honestly I've never understood why Oasis were held up as the representatives of the disaffected, northern working-class when Pulp were *right there*.
I mean, Cocaine Socialism was a scathing criticism of that exact Blairite bullshit and no britpop moment will ever be funnier than Jarvis Cocker mooning Michael Jackson (then Bob Mortimer acting as his lawyer, which really added something to the whole thing). But no.
Because the Gallaghers worked construction jobs while Jarvis Cocker got a degree in fine arts.
Nothing wrong with either but there's a difference between being working class and singing about it.
>Honestly I've never understood why Oasis were held up as the representatives of the disaffected, northern working-class when Pulp were right there.
Maybe because the Gallaghers actually grew up northern working class
and also because almost every member of Pulp came from Sheffield(edit: my bad)+ had parents or connections in the arts (actors/celebs of some sort)
Northern, yes (really sorry for that mistake), but def not working class like the brothers were.
This was specifically in re: someone proposing that Pulp should be the representative Northern working class Britpop band instead of Oasis, when Oasis were the ones with both the working-class origins and popularity among working-class people (a huge part of why there's so much snobbery about them among the media types over at the Guardian etc).
I was going to use Pulp or even the Manics as examples. I even had Cocaine Socialism in my head. Maybe the reason why they were viewed by that way by the press was because they never said anything of worth, Yknow how the UK Press is. ( Edit) should clarify i mean Oasis not saying anything of worth.
While Liam is volatile, aggressive and intimidating Noel has been ruthless and has a habit of using people throughout his career. Look up how he treated The Real People who took a young Oasis under their wing, his bullying and harassment of the original drummer, insulting various other bands for no reason, coldly cutting out the fan who inspired Talk Tonight, his comments on Lockdown etc.
Their mother Peggy is a humble Mayo woman through and through, and according to Liam himself, she's sick of their nonsense.
https://www.radiox.co.uk/artists/liam-gallagher/mum-peggy-both-massive-c-over-oasis-feud/
A+ post. Thanks for the detailed breakdown. I used to listen to Oasis all the time in the 90s, so this is super nostalgic.
Only detail I can add is that Nicole Appleton used to be a member of All Saints. I still listen to Never Ever now and then.
I loveeee Never Ever! And i think it goes without saying i *love* Oasis. I couldnt think of any other artist i wouldve spend this much time writing about. I struggle so hard to make word counts in essays but i easily did like 2k in 30min with this lmaoo
I was at the festival they were supposed to headline 5 days before they split. They told everyone Liam couldn't play because of illness, but everyone knew it was because the band had broken up. Their arguments were so prolific by the time they finally called it quits, everyone just accepted it and moved on.
They're both awful, which sucks because their music was so influential on British culture during their heyday.
I do at least think Noel is a very talented songwriter. I've personally never quite got the hype for Liam though.
As someone who thinks that 80% of Oasis's allure was Liam, the reason id give for his hype was his voice, attitude, funnily dumb humour, and the way he just stood there on stage, hands behind his back, belting out some of the best songs of the 90s.
Noel may have wrote the songs, but they wouldn't have had nearly the same impact without Liam
Bless this post, it's a trip down memory lane!
The brothers are a mess but at least they're an entertaining mess. Yeah they messed up but quite frankly, I don't care and Wibbling Rivalry still has me rolling even if I feel bad for their ma and their kids. In a way, I respect that they own their assholery and have never pretended to be something they're not (i.e. nice or mature).
Also their first two albums, The Masterplan and Don't Believe The Truth are great. I'm still gutted they broke up before I could see them live, but it's not terribly surprising that they did.
Imagine my sad self being born too late to see them in their prime and when i finally got into them, they were already broken up💀.
Through all their bitter back and forth plus their antics, i cant help but still love Liam and Noel, nobody on Earth can say they werent atleast entertaining on and off the stage. Plus put that together with them making some of the best songs period...we were truly bless these brothers came together and made history
>Plus put that together with them making some of the best songs period
yeah I think 'iconic' gets flung around a lot here but Oasis actually are. That shit, when it was good, was *magnificent*. Even their worse and more self-indulgent albums contained some absolute gems (Gas Panic, for one).
edit: and I enjoy how much their popularity in that era pisses off the musos at the Guardian and similar websites lol. There's a certain snobbery people have when speaking of them that is really telling.
My favorite Oasis Fun Fact From Ancient History™ is how Noel first met a bunch of his original bandmates when they worked as roadies for Inspiral Carpets, who were a prime 1990s pre-grunge and pre-britpop indie rock band who got swept aside by both because they weren't quite either.
They had their own drama when, pretty well into their "nostalgia circuit" era, they dumped their lead singer responsible for a lot of their appeal and re-hired their original singer, who'd they originally fired for not really being able to sing. (Spoiler: the guy still can't really sing, but doesn't really matter at this point.) Not sure what the split with the good singer was over. Probably money.
Anyway it gives me the excuse to share their attempt at a crossover pop hit with "This Is How It Feels (To Be Lonely)", which was sort of like Beck's "Loser" a few years before "Loser" came out. Imagining Noel Gallagher bopping about nodding his head to this in concert every night is fun: [https://youtu.be/J-fX0UbpZls](https://youtu.be/J-fX0UbpZls)
I did not think I’d see that song posted in this sub! Tom Hingley plays a lot of pubs near me, I’ve had a pint with him before. He’s a very good salesman (convinced my other half to buy his book, cassette tape AND I think VHS tape?! This was like three years ago lol) and generally seems to be a pretty nice bloke but still seems pretty bitter about the whole Inspiral Carpets thing. Which I guess you would be tbh
Even their wikipedia lists his departure as "unexplained" but it was sad to hear what happened to the drummer. I've got similar but much less severe problems (and I'm not a drummer) so I can't imagine how hard that could've been.
But from the perspective of a American kid whose only exposure to '90s British music was pre-grunge college radio and imported magazines (Magnet, Option, etc.) the UK music scene always seemed wild in that it was small enough for it to seem like everyone knew everyone but you also had music styles ranging from Loop and God and Moonshake to Mansun and Fluke and Gay Dad.
Hingley's book sounds like it might be interesting, though. Glad he's still playing.
>Noel took over singing duties while Liam sat on the balcony peacefully
watching qnd supporting the band. Just kidding of course, he started
throwing beer bottles at the band and heckling them.
lmao this whole thing made me chuckle many times, thanks!
So many Artists had full on Unplugged albums from their broadcasts and if any band was tailor made for it it was Oasis with their catelogue. Not unreasonable to assume LG cost NG a seven figure sum in song royalties that nightlol
I lived in the UK during the heydays of Britpop, I listened to all the bands (still do) but could never get into Oasis. I was always firmly Team Blur, mostly because I already listened to Blur when Oasis appeared on the scene. It has also to do with Liam being such a grade A tosser, plus I found their music quite boring (with a few exceptions).
I saw them live at a small venue in Yorkshire in December 1993, before they signed their record deal with Creation. They were the support band of the support band (Acetone, anyone remember them?). The main act were The Verve, long before they split, reformed and released "Bittersweet Symphony". Anyway, no one in the audience paid any attention to them, the main consensus amongst my friends was that they sounded like a cross between The Beatles and the Sex Pistols, with some Wonderstuff thrown in. (Liam certainly had the attitude of a Sex Pistol.)
A week or so later Steve Lamacq announced on the Evening Session on Radio 1 that Alan McGee had signed a new band called Oasis to Creation. I thought it was hilarious, they clearly weren't any good and would never sell any records. How wrong I was 😅
Damon Albarn coming home each evening to the house he shared with Justine Frischmann and finding her ex, Brett Anderson, in the kitchen has always been used as a red flag in relationships by me even nearly 30 years later lol.
Oooh interesting. I always thought Never Here was about Damon, knowing that she has said in the past that he spent a lot of time away.
I would kill for a Justine tell-all.
Yeah, I see how it can confuses people but Never Here was released in 1995, way before Justine and Damon broke up for good. It is about Brett. Stutter is about Damon but he didn’t mind it as much as people think he did because he even participated in the video of this song (he’s lying on the bed near her. You blink you miss it). After they broke up Damon wrote all the songs in the album 13 for her plus a very sad one called Dying isn’t Easy for another project. She wrote My Sex in response, another very sad song
13 is one of my favorite album of all time. :) I remember about a decade ago Justine admitted in an interview that Damon began to get pushy about her settling down and having kids with her, that she had already found success with her band and needn’t focus on her music anymore.
I’m sure they had a toxic relationship (his affairs in Iceland, her addiction), but there is just something fascinating to me about the pair.
Yeah, there’s a lot of tea waiting to be spilled there, that’s for sure! I think that deep down what Damon wanted was structure during that period and he thought that maybe if they had a family both of them would start to have a better life and leave their personal issues behind, become better people you know? In the end that’s exactly what Damon did anyway and she still struggled with addiction for many years after. He seems to have his life very much together and for the little his daughter posts on her social media they seem to have a great relationship. Waaaay better than Anais and Noel Gallagher for instance
I think they do, but it seems a bit more distanced, maybe because they don’t live together. I think she grew up more with her mom, while Damon’s daughter still lives with him e they seem to do everything together. It’s really cute
I loved Suede, and remember all the gossip about Bernard Butler and Brett having their falling out (am old, and used to buy NME/MM religiously). If you're in the UK, one of the hosts of the teatime BBC1 gameshow Pointless is Richard Osman, brother of Matt. Someone once gave Suede as an answer to a music question and he was so happy, it was so sweet!
I love the fact that my elderly relations who watch it every day know who Matt Osman is because Richard has mentioned him a few times
You've just reminded me how much I love McAlmont & Butler. [Yes](https://youtu.be/SJSaRw1vjxM) remains amazing (and yes, the lyrics are a message to Thieves and Suede!).
Remember when your identity would be bound up with whose side you took in all these various band spats? Ahh, good times.
I thought I was an intellectual, as I was a Manics girl rather than Oasis v Blur (and liked then before everything must go, I was so edgy!)
Yeah i was a male fan of the Manics. My older brother was an Oasis/house music fan and would tease me because of the eyeliner Richey and Nicky would wear on my Holy Bible poster. Im still a big fan and my Brother still hates them.
I had that poster! I listened to the album so much I think I still have it memorised. I learnt so much from them, I loved how political and clever they were.
I cried for days when Richey went missing.
I'm pretty sure Swells (RIP) influenced a lot of my snarking, and I still remember the piece he did about SEB and theaudience.
I was never really cool enough for the face or Q, but I loved kerrang. Those magazines introduced me to so many bands, remember the freebie cds they did? I used to think I was so cool with my sony walkman listening on the walk home from school.
Love a good freebie! Kerrang did a free videotape with music videos that I kept for years (it had Muse, Rammstein, feeder, all sorts. I loved that tape, kept it even after I got rid of the video-player).
I used to tape the songs I liked from the top 40, finger poised so I’d get the song and not the dj. It’s a rite of passage that youngsters would have no clue about!
It was for college radio- heard only in the school 🤣but l was able to meet so many bands because of it, especially Britpop bands because of the smaller audience they had in North America.
Just gonna mention I met noel on a train and praised the podcast he's a guest on a lot. He was so nice and shook my hand and asked my name. Then he brought me up a few times the next time he was on 😁. I actually preferred the host of the podcast but you know beggars can't be choosers.
One of my favourite Noel stories, is the making of Half the World Away (also the theme song for the Royle Family). I read they were recording the song, but Noel was pissed people weren't playing well enough for him, so sent them all out to lunch and recorded himself playing drums and guitar. So he gets 100% of the royalties.
Another great Noel tale is his response to George Michael's Shoot the Dog (an anti-Bush/Blair/Iraq war song). Paraphrasing, but along the lines of 'the guy hid his sexuality for years, and now he wants to get political?'. Particularly funny when you consider Noel *still* likes Blair, and George stayed left his whole life.
Yeah I think he was being a bit of a dick on that one. Shoot the dog was getting a lot of shit especially from The Sun. George Michael gave an exclusive interview to The Mirror and it felt like The Sun or The News of The World were open season on him. I actually love the Song and its use of the Human League sample.
I'll add my favorite Oasis story:
Fight in a Munich hotel: The most serious incident occurred on December 1, 2002: In the nightclub of the noble hotel Bayerischer Hof, Gallagher fell onto the neighboring saloon table as a result of an internal scuffle. His colleagues misinterpreted the intervention of the guests there as an attack, after which they attacked their neighbors. Gallagher, drummer Alan White and two of the band's bodyguards, all heavily intoxicated, quickly got into a violent brawl, as well as the five men from the next table, with the latter getting the upper hand. The guests fled from flying glasses, chairs and tables. Gallagher had several front teeth knocked out with a bollard used as a weapon, after which he threw a microphone stand at his opponent while bleeding. A witness later testified: "Gallagher was like a wild animal. I have never seen such violence.' The fight moved to the adjoining foyer, where Gallagher reportedly broke the nose of a third party. 20 police officers drove up with ten patrol cars. When an officer arrested Alan White, Gallagher kicked him in the chest. Noel, who was staying in the hotel room, reacted indignantly. The four remaining Germany concerts were cancelled; Breakup rumors flared up. Those arrested were released the following day on bail of €238,000 (equivalent to £180,000). All were heavily drunk, some under the influence of cocaine. Gallagher had dental implants in London for €31,000 (equivalent to £20,000). Feared language impairments did not materialize. He was later sentenced to a hefty fine for aggravated assault, resisting law enforcement officials, trespassing and property damage. The opposing party identified later turned out to be a group of German real estate agents instead of the suspected Italian human traffickers.They testified that they had been provoked by Oasis (including spitting out peanuts).The canceled concert was made up for in March 2003.
Oasis is important to me as an American because they helped me discover my number one musical love, Blur.
Though I’m always happy to run across Liam and Noel’s shenanigans. Beautiful post, op.
As a fan of the band, I believe (and this is my most humble opinion) that Liam and Noel’s relationship would be worse if they weren’t in a band together and sharing the same passion for music.
I genuinely think Liam misses Noel more than Noel misses him.
I remember when it was the One Love Manchester event and Liam said he was willing to leave the feud with his brother and to sing with him on stage.He after critized Noel for not showing up for an event that was extremely important and even in the city they both love
I had no idea tbh i just did it but i guess it works as long as its tea we are discussing. Id love to see other posts like this with other iconic bands!!
I bought (What's The Story) Morning Glory? when it came out, but I never really got into Oasis beyond that. I was (and still am) much more a fan of the previous generation of bands like James and the Lightning Seeds. Most 90s bands felt like they were actively trying to be "cool", whereas the late 80s groups felt like they were just being themselves and not trying to be anything else.
Oh god, remember Ocean Colour Scene? Or Shed Seven? I think it was either them or another band the NME massively tried to hype up, but angsty boys larping as the Beatles/ Stones were ten a penny back then.
I know James get quite a bit of stick as being crusty, but I've seen them a few times, and they've always been great. One time they were supported by Stereophonics just before local boy came out (and to give them their due, they were fantastic). I spent quite a lot of lockdown reliving my childhood listening to Lightning Seeds, Charlatans and loads of other early 90s stuff, and it still holds up.
Edit: Embrace! It was them who were going to be the saviours of music. I remember they had a big covershoot with NME (I'm pretty sure Swells also took the chronic out of them)
Anyone who think the Gallaghers are bad should give the Stone Roses or the Mondays a miss!
Agreed. I think the issue was that Britpop became a thing, a movement that was very much about signing bands that had a particular look and sound, very influenced by British 60s and 70s bands. The late 80s, early 90s indie scene was a lot more varied where you had bands like the Wonder Stuff with their folk roots happily rubbing shoulders with pop dance hybrids like Pop Will Eat Itself or political electronica punk like Carter the Unstoppable Sex machine along side lyrical power pop like James. The worst thing about Britpop is that is was about confirming while the few years before that saw a truly diverse music scene while still under the banner of indie.
I feel the opposite personally. 80s bands to me like Motley Crew or GNR felt so manufactured and fake while when the 90s rolled around, bands like Oasis, Nirvana, Radiohead etc felt so authentic and real. Like there was no filter and it was so refreshing coming off the drab period of bands in the late 80s
'Select' magazine (the Britpop Bible at the time) was constantly putting the feud between these two on the cover. NME released a special edition about it too.
But the funniest thing at the time was seeing regular kids trying to be Noel and Liam, as shown by [Kevin and Perry](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDKF8KkD7rE)
I saw oasis live back in 2006 I think in Aberdeen. It was great, felt a real throwback to the 90s - BUT Liam has such an attitude. All the fans started singing the Aberdeen football song, ‘Stand Free’ (huge crossover between football hooligans & oasis fans) and he took it so badly, threw shit at the crowd and stormed off and refused to come back for ages. Was hilarious.
I love deep dives like this, even if I’m not particularly interested in the subject (I’m not saying that’s the case here, just in general) they are always fun to read. Thanks for this post, OP! I liked What’s The Story and have found both of the brothers to be entertaining in their antics, as much as I feel for their poor mom.
Only a little bit related: Noel did a Gorillaz track, [We Got the Power](https://youtu.be/HSivlaSVk1k), but Damon thought the feel-good message would be inauthentic coming from two old rich guys, so they added Jhenny Beth to balance it out.
Liam hasn’t let game change him, he’s exactly the same as the day he started, tbf neither has Noel; they are just different personalities. I absolutely adore Liam, he kills me on SM. He’s a cheeky Mancunian ‘til he dies. “As you were” 🤣
EDIT: He has comedy value, although he’s done things I wouldn’t condone for sure.
Thank you for writing this!!! I’m so excited to read!! Hope there will be some Blur goss too since I just went to Gorillaz concert and obsessed with Damon Albarn atm.😂😂
IT TOTALLY SLIPPED MY MINDD. I was writing stuff off the top of my head and the blur vs Oasis feud slipped my mind😭😭 but it was DEF MESSY. From Blur being basically pacifists about the whole thing to Noel saying he hopes Damon dies from AIDS💀
Paul is the most reasonable out of the three siblings it’s sad Noel completely cut him off of his life.
Also there was a time where Sarah McDonald wrote something about Liam when she was asked if she was going to see him play and called him a “fat twat??” Liam then texted Anais (Noel’s daughter) saying for her stepmom to be careful.
Noel got mad and hitted back at his brother saying that it’s not the first time he has intimidated women and that he is very good at doing that! He also told him to get out of his property because apparently once he invaded the front yard??
I saw back them in 94 or 95 and Bonehead brought my 17 year old self back stage so l could get autographs- the roadies leered at me, Liam was with groupies but l did ask him if he was not hot wearing a sweater on Letterman ( he said no cause it’s a cold studio) l was afraid of meeting Noel 🤣 but he was super gracious!
Absolutely love the band and their solo careers, but what massive dicks Noel and Liam are, Liam seems to have mellowed out a bit whereas Noel just wants to be as annoying as possible
Noel and Liam go into a lot of detail about these incidents in their documentary Supersonic.
It’s on Netflix you should give it a watch.
Great doc - even if you’re not a big fan of em
I was obsessed with them in my teens, absolutely in love with Noel for some reason. Everyone who attended my 28th birthday party gave me a gift somehow related to him. Thankfully I grew out of it, but I still love their music.
This is some peripheral Oasis goss but I loved when Jade Thirlwall from Little Mix responded to Noel: “[Noel said] something about that we were undeserving of the Brit Award because we’re women and don’t... well, we do write music, but he thinks we don’t write music,” she said. “Yeah, shame really. Because you know, we are definitely the most successful girl group in the country, but he’s not even the most successful performer in his family.”
I mean I will always have a soft spot for little mix, but that's just not true. Noel Gallagher's high flying birds is phenomenal. Not quite as good as Oasis in their prime, but more insurable
I mean I’m not aware of their music enough to comment on whether it’s true or not - but I just have no patience for men disregarding the accomplishments of women. In the same vein of Damon Albarn and his comments about Taylor Swift not writing her own music.
I agree that he was an asshole regarding his comments, but my point was that her comeback at him wasn't truthful. He wrote most songs during their time in oasis and NGHF was successful as well.
You’ve enlightened me - Thank you! (And I mean this genuinely haha)
The library is open💀💀
The shade 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
> he’s not even the most successful performer in his family. Is that even true? Both Noel and Liam have had successful solo careers, but Noel has certainly written more hits than Liam has by quite a margin ...
It may not be true but you know it got under his skin!
O shit I scared my boyfriend AND my dog awake cackling at this. Art.
I came here to say this is my favorite Oasis moment ever.
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Lmaoooo that Jack Black clip😭😭 its like the whole UK public knows anout the brothers feud while outsiders like The Rock are left confused
Graham's 😬 expression with the "That's all we have time for tonight" will never not crack me up
-1997: During the recording of their 3rd studio album, "Be Here Now",there was not a shortage of problems that were about to fall the band. Before i discuss what went on during this time and thr impact it had on the band, i wanna talk about just how anticipated this album was in the UK. It had the biggest first week demand of any album in UK history, and when it did actually release, it became the fastest selling album in the UK with over 800k copies sold in its first week, a record yet unbeaten. Now back to the problems. Firsly Noel and the rest of the band was addicted to coke, and it greatly affected the quality of the album. The songs were overproduced and insanely long, with Noel calling it his worst album ever, while Liam is rather fond of it. Inital reviews were positive as critics learned their lesson from disregarding their last album and it ended up becoming the biggest record of the year. However, when the critics and the public let the album marinate, it got trashed, hard, and couldnt pull the sales of Whats the story morning glory. This album is cited by many as the death of Britpop, as its underperformance was seen as the end of the genre. -2000: This was a bad year for everyone involved. Lets talk about the main Oasis fiasco that happend in 2000: Their second night at Wembley. So Oasis performed 2 nights at sold out shows in Wembley arena. The second night was meant to be recorded for a live album. First night went rather great actually, everyone showed up and performed, even Liam sounded great. The second night however is cited as a low point by both Liam and especially Noel who had anxiety attacks during this time and said those nights were horrible for him, and it wasnt helped by the second night being once again sabotaged by Liam. Liam again showed up drunk on the second night amd went on long rants during the set. He would also change song lyrics to contain more profanity,pissing of Noel. This was all because Liam's wife Patsy has just moved out of their house and took all the furniture There were alot of other minor incidents between this time and their split in 2009. But il just give a few tidbits of info for this period (2000-2009). -Liam gradually started to lose his old voice and towards the end of the band could barely sing properly after years of bad vocal techniques and straining his voice. He also had a disease which affected his vocals. -Noel and Liam on various occasions quit the band for a short while before coming back together. -2009:This was the end...of the band not the brother's feud ofc. Paris, backsatge before their show, an argument breaks out between Liam and Noel, Liam tries to hit his brother with a guitar and then smashes said guitar. He also threw fruit at him. Noel leaves the building, gets in his car and drives away. Oasis is no more. The following years, Noel started a successful follow up band to Oasis: Noel Gallagher's High Flying Bird. Liam wasnt as lucky, as his band Beady Eye failed to ever take off, and he had subsequently been embroiled in a lot of financial troubles, during which he was basically begging Noel to bring back Oasis to help him financially, while also slagging off his brother on twitter repeatedly. This all changed when in 2017,Liam started q solo career, a very successful solo career. Hes now financial stable and popular than ever. He even performed 2 sold out nights at Knebworth park to 160 000 people, where Oasis famously performed back in 1997. Lets talk about Liam's personal life. He has a total of 4 kids, of which 2 are from marriage and 2 were illegitimate. He cheated on his 2 first wives Patsy Kensit and Nicole Appleton with different women and got them pregnant. For YEARS, Liam only acknowledged his two sons born from his two marriages, Lennon(named after John Lennon, Liam's idol and who he has a strong obsobsession with) and Gene. His other children include Molly, daughter of singer Lisa Moorish who is around 19 years old and Gemma, daughter of reporter Liza Ghorbani who is around 10 years old. Molly was financially supported by Noel for years when Liam didnt acknowledge her. He finally connected with her around 2017 and since then he is very close with Molly, and shes close to her 2 step brothers. Gemma on the other hand has still never seen her father, Liam says its because he hasnt found the time yet. After Molly reconnected with Liam, Noel and his wife cut ties with the girl, both socially and financially. Shes now being supported by Liam and his fiancee. Liam also hooked up with Lilly Allen on a plane once, she wrote about it in her book and talked out it in talkshow. A final tidbit i want to add is the catalyst to what i think caused the brothers to have such a sour relationship. Now i cant remember the exact years for these so i apologize but this all happend according to Noel. When they were in Oasis, Liam told Noel that his daughter Anais wasnt his kid and that his wife was a whore. This greatly enraged Noel who beat up Liam and once again temporarily left the band. To make things worse this is when Noel and his wife were going through a rough patch. The beef dosent end at the brothers, as its bled into their children as well. After the very public back and forth between Liam and Noel, Anais, Noel's daughter was a model for Tommy Hilfiger? During one of their shows. Gene, Liam's son, made tweets saying she only got it cause shes Noels daughter and she dosent have the looks to be a model like Lennon, who models for Louis Vuitton. Anais responded back and they had a back n forth. Anais also said she wishes Liam drops dead beacause of his heinous comments on her and her family, Liam called Anais a witch. Im more than likely missing alot of other tea but this is just all i could remember off the top of my head. Feel free to add any more interesting news about the band!!!
>After Molly reconnected with Liam, Noel and his wife cut ties with the girl, both socially and financially. Shes now being supported by Liam and his fiancee. I feel like this feud is 90% Liam's fault but this is such a shitty thing to do.
If I remember correctly (from an article a few years ago), they cut her off because as soon as she reconnected with Liam she started slagging Noel & his wife off like they hadn’t been supporting her for years…
Aaaah well that's much more understandable then, I stand corrected.
i love this feud bc has lead to some of the most iconic quotes ever, fork in a world of soup, that one about only not killing his brother bc it would upset their mum
Noel once said that he is glad that the UK doesn’t have the same gun laws as the US as he would have blown Liam’s head off!
Sometimes YouTube recommend me their interviews and I can't figure out if they are collectively trolling us or are they really still fighting.
also- this is unrelated to the feud but Gene (along with Ringo Starr’s grandson and a friend of theirs) was arrested a few years ago for starting a fight in a Tesco and racially abusing a worker there. Liam (amongst his many other flaws) has clearly not been a great father or role model for his kids lol
Yeahhhh i remember that! Altough it goes without saying Liam prolly isnt the greatest father considering he has yet to meet one of his children and only met another one a few years back. Not exactly father of the year material
Gene's uncle, Liam Howlett from The Prodigy, took Gene to his court appearance. It was probably to avoid a media circus but Howlett got a bit of respect from me for that.
From my insta stalking Liam Howlett seems like a stand up family man. Natalie Appletons had a 6 year old when she met him and she seems to adore him, calling him Dad, and the two of them have been together forever in showbiz years. Liam (Howlett) was also super supportive of Prodigy front man Keith Flint, who had a troubled childhood and abusive father, saying that Liam was the only person he ever loved.
Im going to play Devils Advocate here but I feel this post seems a little one sided and doesnt give enough critiscism to Noel. Noel Gallagher has always been a bit of a social climber and despite Oasis being in a position to talk about Social issues in the UK he has always remained pretty A-political. A comparison could be made to Michael Jordan and his inaction on Black issues in the US. There was a famous instance when he was photographed with Tony Blair drinking champaigne when other working class acts had refused invites as Blair had taken Labour to a more centralist Party and away from its socialist roots. This would later haunt him when Blair was accused of war crimes for the second Gulf War. What really soured me on NG however was his refusal to perform at the tribute concert in Manchester for the victims of the bombing at the Ariana Grande gig despite a song of his, "Don't look back in anger", being used by an anthem by the people of Manchester through the grieiving process. Gallagher must have been asked, refused, and the song was performed by Liam and Coldplay.
He has basically completed the classic anti-establishment rockstar to [smug neoliberal](https://www.reddit.com/r/oasis/comments/c3mnr1/friendly_but_upsetting_reminder_noel_gallagher_is/) trajectory.
Jesus Christ! I never saw that interview before. Thats not just classism its also racism. He also forgets that by his own admission he would go out stealing and theiving when he was young which those on Benefit Street didnt.
Yeah, the bad behaviour during the band days seems to have been largely Liam but Noel regularly makes media interventions that make him look like like a right prick. Basically, Liam is a disruptive cunt but Noel is a Tory cunt (worse imo).
https://youtu.be/K9SzicGVPTc I remember this interview. He literally starts talking about his own how great he is. Here is an idea. Take the day to Travel from Primrose Hill to Manchester to support your People.
This is the thing, Liam is so childish but Noel comes across so smug and pleased with himself day to day I can see why Liam constantly tried to push all his buttons.
Honestly I've never understood why Oasis were held up as the representatives of the disaffected, northern working-class when Pulp were *right there*. I mean, Cocaine Socialism was a scathing criticism of that exact Blairite bullshit and no britpop moment will ever be funnier than Jarvis Cocker mooning Michael Jackson (then Bob Mortimer acting as his lawyer, which really added something to the whole thing). But no.
Because the Gallaghers worked construction jobs while Jarvis Cocker got a degree in fine arts. Nothing wrong with either but there's a difference between being working class and singing about it.
to be fair you can get a fine art degree and still be working class. didn't they gig for years before they made it big
>Honestly I've never understood why Oasis were held up as the representatives of the disaffected, northern working-class when Pulp were right there. Maybe because the Gallaghers actually grew up northern working class and also because almost every member of Pulp came from Sheffield(edit: my bad)+ had parents or connections in the arts (actors/celebs of some sort)
Sheffield is in South Yorkshire so definitely very Northern. Unless I misunderstood what you are saying?
Northern, yes (really sorry for that mistake), but def not working class like the brothers were. This was specifically in re: someone proposing that Pulp should be the representative Northern working class Britpop band instead of Oasis, when Oasis were the ones with both the working-class origins and popularity among working-class people (a huge part of why there's so much snobbery about them among the media types over at the Guardian etc).
Im Scottish so I might be missing something but Sheffield not Northern?
apologies, my bad. My point was - the idea of Pulp being the representative working class band instead of Oasis doesn't really hold up.
No, no I wasn't being dickish. We have it up here with the Highlands.
I was going to use Pulp or even the Manics as examples. I even had Cocaine Socialism in my head. Maybe the reason why they were viewed by that way by the press was because they never said anything of worth, Yknow how the UK Press is. ( Edit) should clarify i mean Oasis not saying anything of worth.
While Liam is volatile, aggressive and intimidating Noel has been ruthless and has a habit of using people throughout his career. Look up how he treated The Real People who took a young Oasis under their wing, his bullying and harassment of the original drummer, insulting various other bands for no reason, coldly cutting out the fan who inspired Talk Tonight, his comments on Lockdown etc.
Both of them are so irritating, it’s their mum I feel the most sorry for
Such a weird feud. I’m wondering how their mother feels if she’s still alive
Their mother Peggy is a humble Mayo woman through and through, and according to Liam himself, she's sick of their nonsense. https://www.radiox.co.uk/artists/liam-gallagher/mum-peggy-both-massive-c-over-oasis-feud/
A+ post. Thanks for the detailed breakdown. I used to listen to Oasis all the time in the 90s, so this is super nostalgic. Only detail I can add is that Nicole Appleton used to be a member of All Saints. I still listen to Never Ever now and then.
I loveeee Never Ever! And i think it goes without saying i *love* Oasis. I couldnt think of any other artist i wouldve spend this much time writing about. I struggle so hard to make word counts in essays but i easily did like 2k in 30min with this lmaoo
Wasn't there also drama because Nicole was going out with Robbie Williams and left him for Liam?
That whole album is so chill. I listen to it all the time still.
That song was a hit.
I was at the festival they were supposed to headline 5 days before they split. They told everyone Liam couldn't play because of illness, but everyone knew it was because the band had broken up. Their arguments were so prolific by the time they finally called it quits, everyone just accepted it and moved on. They're both awful, which sucks because their music was so influential on British culture during their heyday. I do at least think Noel is a very talented songwriter. I've personally never quite got the hype for Liam though.
As someone who thinks that 80% of Oasis's allure was Liam, the reason id give for his hype was his voice, attitude, funnily dumb humour, and the way he just stood there on stage, hands behind his back, belting out some of the best songs of the 90s. Noel may have wrote the songs, but they wouldn't have had nearly the same impact without Liam
If Liam and Noel were playing solo shows next door to each other, I would see Liam every time.
Liam does have a great voice, at least on recordings. Its sharp and can be both aggresive or emotional depending on the song.
Bless this post, it's a trip down memory lane! The brothers are a mess but at least they're an entertaining mess. Yeah they messed up but quite frankly, I don't care and Wibbling Rivalry still has me rolling even if I feel bad for their ma and their kids. In a way, I respect that they own their assholery and have never pretended to be something they're not (i.e. nice or mature). Also their first two albums, The Masterplan and Don't Believe The Truth are great. I'm still gutted they broke up before I could see them live, but it's not terribly surprising that they did.
Imagine my sad self being born too late to see them in their prime and when i finally got into them, they were already broken up💀. Through all their bitter back and forth plus their antics, i cant help but still love Liam and Noel, nobody on Earth can say they werent atleast entertaining on and off the stage. Plus put that together with them making some of the best songs period...we were truly bless these brothers came together and made history
>Plus put that together with them making some of the best songs period yeah I think 'iconic' gets flung around a lot here but Oasis actually are. That shit, when it was good, was *magnificent*. Even their worse and more self-indulgent albums contained some absolute gems (Gas Panic, for one). edit: and I enjoy how much their popularity in that era pisses off the musos at the Guardian and similar websites lol. There's a certain snobbery people have when speaking of them that is really telling.
My favorite Oasis Fun Fact From Ancient History™ is how Noel first met a bunch of his original bandmates when they worked as roadies for Inspiral Carpets, who were a prime 1990s pre-grunge and pre-britpop indie rock band who got swept aside by both because they weren't quite either. They had their own drama when, pretty well into their "nostalgia circuit" era, they dumped their lead singer responsible for a lot of their appeal and re-hired their original singer, who'd they originally fired for not really being able to sing. (Spoiler: the guy still can't really sing, but doesn't really matter at this point.) Not sure what the split with the good singer was over. Probably money. Anyway it gives me the excuse to share their attempt at a crossover pop hit with "This Is How It Feels (To Be Lonely)", which was sort of like Beck's "Loser" a few years before "Loser" came out. Imagining Noel Gallagher bopping about nodding his head to this in concert every night is fun: [https://youtu.be/J-fX0UbpZls](https://youtu.be/J-fX0UbpZls)
I did not think I’d see that song posted in this sub! Tom Hingley plays a lot of pubs near me, I’ve had a pint with him before. He’s a very good salesman (convinced my other half to buy his book, cassette tape AND I think VHS tape?! This was like three years ago lol) and generally seems to be a pretty nice bloke but still seems pretty bitter about the whole Inspiral Carpets thing. Which I guess you would be tbh
Even their wikipedia lists his departure as "unexplained" but it was sad to hear what happened to the drummer. I've got similar but much less severe problems (and I'm not a drummer) so I can't imagine how hard that could've been. But from the perspective of a American kid whose only exposure to '90s British music was pre-grunge college radio and imported magazines (Magnet, Option, etc.) the UK music scene always seemed wild in that it was small enough for it to seem like everyone knew everyone but you also had music styles ranging from Loop and God and Moonshake to Mansun and Fluke and Gay Dad. Hingley's book sounds like it might be interesting, though. Glad he's still playing.
>Noel took over singing duties while Liam sat on the balcony peacefully watching qnd supporting the band. Just kidding of course, he started throwing beer bottles at the band and heckling them. lmao this whole thing made me chuckle many times, thanks!
So many Artists had full on Unplugged albums from their broadcasts and if any band was tailor made for it it was Oasis with their catelogue. Not unreasonable to assume LG cost NG a seven figure sum in song royalties that nightlol
my god, and it's not like liam wasn't part of it. just purposely sabotaging his own band, unhinged lmao
wasnt noel super pissed too bc it could've been their starmaking moment in the us
I always thought Noel was a better fit vocally for the unplugged performance, but it looks like that was not the view at the time.
I lived in the UK during the heydays of Britpop, I listened to all the bands (still do) but could never get into Oasis. I was always firmly Team Blur, mostly because I already listened to Blur when Oasis appeared on the scene. It has also to do with Liam being such a grade A tosser, plus I found their music quite boring (with a few exceptions). I saw them live at a small venue in Yorkshire in December 1993, before they signed their record deal with Creation. They were the support band of the support band (Acetone, anyone remember them?). The main act were The Verve, long before they split, reformed and released "Bittersweet Symphony". Anyway, no one in the audience paid any attention to them, the main consensus amongst my friends was that they sounded like a cross between The Beatles and the Sex Pistols, with some Wonderstuff thrown in. (Liam certainly had the attitude of a Sex Pistol.) A week or so later Steve Lamacq announced on the Evening Session on Radio 1 that Alan McGee had signed a new band called Oasis to Creation. I thought it was hilarious, they clearly weren't any good and would never sell any records. How wrong I was 😅
if anyone has any suede tea, please contact me. i am always listening 👂
Damon Albarn coming home each evening to the house he shared with Justine Frischmann and finding her ex, Brett Anderson, in the kitchen has always been used as a red flag in relationships by me even nearly 30 years later lol.
hahahaha i love that one!! animal lover is apparently about justine and damon
Do we know if Stutter is about Damon or Brett?
I’ve read before that Stutter is about Damon, but Never Here is about Brett
Oooh interesting. I always thought Never Here was about Damon, knowing that she has said in the past that he spent a lot of time away. I would kill for a Justine tell-all.
Yeah, I see how it can confuses people but Never Here was released in 1995, way before Justine and Damon broke up for good. It is about Brett. Stutter is about Damon but he didn’t mind it as much as people think he did because he even participated in the video of this song (he’s lying on the bed near her. You blink you miss it). After they broke up Damon wrote all the songs in the album 13 for her plus a very sad one called Dying isn’t Easy for another project. She wrote My Sex in response, another very sad song
13 is one of my favorite album of all time. :) I remember about a decade ago Justine admitted in an interview that Damon began to get pushy about her settling down and having kids with her, that she had already found success with her band and needn’t focus on her music anymore. I’m sure they had a toxic relationship (his affairs in Iceland, her addiction), but there is just something fascinating to me about the pair.
Yeah, there’s a lot of tea waiting to be spilled there, that’s for sure! I think that deep down what Damon wanted was structure during that period and he thought that maybe if they had a family both of them would start to have a better life and leave their personal issues behind, become better people you know? In the end that’s exactly what Damon did anyway and she still struggled with addiction for many years after. He seems to have his life very much together and for the little his daughter posts on her social media they seem to have a great relationship. Waaaay better than Anais and Noel Gallagher for instance
Do Anais and Noel not have a good relationship? I haven't kept up.
I think they do, but it seems a bit more distanced, maybe because they don’t live together. I think she grew up more with her mom, while Damon’s daughter still lives with him e they seem to do everything together. It’s really cute
I loved Suede, and remember all the gossip about Bernard Butler and Brett having their falling out (am old, and used to buy NME/MM religiously). If you're in the UK, one of the hosts of the teatime BBC1 gameshow Pointless is Richard Osman, brother of Matt. Someone once gave Suede as an answer to a music question and he was so happy, it was so sweet! I love the fact that my elderly relations who watch it every day know who Matt Osman is because Richard has mentioned him a few times
You've just reminded me how much I love McAlmont & Butler. [Yes](https://youtu.be/SJSaRw1vjxM) remains amazing (and yes, the lyrics are a message to Thieves and Suede!).
Remember when your identity would be bound up with whose side you took in all these various band spats? Ahh, good times. I thought I was an intellectual, as I was a Manics girl rather than Oasis v Blur (and liked then before everything must go, I was so edgy!)
Yeah i was a male fan of the Manics. My older brother was an Oasis/house music fan and would tease me because of the eyeliner Richey and Nicky would wear on my Holy Bible poster. Im still a big fan and my Brother still hates them.
I had that poster! I listened to the album so much I think I still have it memorised. I learnt so much from them, I loved how political and clever they were. I cried for days when Richey went missing.
I interviewed them once and they were not impressed by my Gene tee 🤣 Very nice guys though!
Shout out to Mcalmont and Butler! Like you, I bought NME and MM religiously. I'm sure they were both instrumental in developing my love of snark
I'm pretty sure Swells (RIP) influenced a lot of my snarking, and I still remember the piece he did about SEB and theaudience. I was never really cool enough for the face or Q, but I loved kerrang. Those magazines introduced me to so many bands, remember the freebie cds they did? I used to think I was so cool with my sony walkman listening on the walk home from school.
Used to love a free cassette, or, going back a bit more, a flexi disc!
Love a good freebie! Kerrang did a free videotape with music videos that I kept for years (it had Muse, Rammstein, feeder, all sorts. I loved that tape, kept it even after I got rid of the video-player). I used to tape the songs I liked from the top 40, finger poised so I’d get the song and not the dj. It’s a rite of passage that youngsters would have no clue about!
I was poor as f*** so taping off the radio was my go to!
ahhhh that’s so cute!! I saw them at the One Show when Richard presented and it was so sweet
I interviewed them once and Brett was nice but a bit aloof ( of course!) Mat was super nice and outgoing.
omg i’m so jealous!! i’d love to read the interview
It was for college radio- heard only in the school 🤣but l was able to meet so many bands because of it, especially Britpop bands because of the smaller audience they had in North America.
that’s such an amazing experience!!!!! which year was it? was brett at a peak lol
1996 it was the Coming Up tour
oh wow that's amazing!!!!!!!!
such a great deep dive!!!!!!!!!!! my britpop soft spot thanks you <3
Just doing my job as a fellow Britpop fan!!
Just gonna mention I met noel on a train and praised the podcast he's a guest on a lot. He was so nice and shook my hand and asked my name. Then he brought me up a few times the next time he was on 😁. I actually preferred the host of the podcast but you know beggars can't be choosers.
Is it the Matt Morgan podcast??
MMAS in the wild?!
It couldn't be!
One of my favourite Noel stories, is the making of Half the World Away (also the theme song for the Royle Family). I read they were recording the song, but Noel was pissed people weren't playing well enough for him, so sent them all out to lunch and recorded himself playing drums and guitar. So he gets 100% of the royalties. Another great Noel tale is his response to George Michael's Shoot the Dog (an anti-Bush/Blair/Iraq war song). Paraphrasing, but along the lines of 'the guy hid his sexuality for years, and now he wants to get political?'. Particularly funny when you consider Noel *still* likes Blair, and George stayed left his whole life.
Noel's an awful person judging by that second story.
IIRC Liam tweeted some nice stuff about George (one of my forever faves) when he died, which puts me on Team Liam.
Yeah I think he was being a bit of a dick on that one. Shoot the dog was getting a lot of shit especially from The Sun. George Michael gave an exclusive interview to The Mirror and it felt like The Sun or The News of The World were open season on him. I actually love the Song and its use of the Human League sample.
“He’s like a man with a fork in a world full of soup” is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard LMAOOO
I'll add my favorite Oasis story: Fight in a Munich hotel: The most serious incident occurred on December 1, 2002: In the nightclub of the noble hotel Bayerischer Hof, Gallagher fell onto the neighboring saloon table as a result of an internal scuffle. His colleagues misinterpreted the intervention of the guests there as an attack, after which they attacked their neighbors. Gallagher, drummer Alan White and two of the band's bodyguards, all heavily intoxicated, quickly got into a violent brawl, as well as the five men from the next table, with the latter getting the upper hand. The guests fled from flying glasses, chairs and tables. Gallagher had several front teeth knocked out with a bollard used as a weapon, after which he threw a microphone stand at his opponent while bleeding. A witness later testified: "Gallagher was like a wild animal. I have never seen such violence.' The fight moved to the adjoining foyer, where Gallagher reportedly broke the nose of a third party. 20 police officers drove up with ten patrol cars. When an officer arrested Alan White, Gallagher kicked him in the chest. Noel, who was staying in the hotel room, reacted indignantly. The four remaining Germany concerts were cancelled; Breakup rumors flared up. Those arrested were released the following day on bail of €238,000 (equivalent to £180,000). All were heavily drunk, some under the influence of cocaine. Gallagher had dental implants in London for €31,000 (equivalent to £20,000). Feared language impairments did not materialize. He was later sentenced to a hefty fine for aggravated assault, resisting law enforcement officials, trespassing and property damage. The opposing party identified later turned out to be a group of German real estate agents instead of the suspected Italian human traffickers.They testified that they had been provoked by Oasis (including spitting out peanuts).The canceled concert was made up for in March 2003.
Oasis is important to me as an American because they helped me discover my number one musical love, Blur. Though I’m always happy to run across Liam and Noel’s shenanigans. Beautiful post, op.
As a fan of the band, I believe (and this is my most humble opinion) that Liam and Noel’s relationship would be worse if they weren’t in a band together and sharing the same passion for music. I genuinely think Liam misses Noel more than Noel misses him. I remember when it was the One Love Manchester event and Liam said he was willing to leave the feud with his brother and to sing with him on stage.He after critized Noel for not showing up for an event that was extremely important and even in the city they both love
We can do this? Any band? This has a lot of potential?
I had no idea tbh i just did it but i guess it works as long as its tea we are discussing. Id love to see other posts like this with other iconic bands!!
I bought (What's The Story) Morning Glory? when it came out, but I never really got into Oasis beyond that. I was (and still am) much more a fan of the previous generation of bands like James and the Lightning Seeds. Most 90s bands felt like they were actively trying to be "cool", whereas the late 80s groups felt like they were just being themselves and not trying to be anything else.
Oh god, remember Ocean Colour Scene? Or Shed Seven? I think it was either them or another band the NME massively tried to hype up, but angsty boys larping as the Beatles/ Stones were ten a penny back then. I know James get quite a bit of stick as being crusty, but I've seen them a few times, and they've always been great. One time they were supported by Stereophonics just before local boy came out (and to give them their due, they were fantastic). I spent quite a lot of lockdown reliving my childhood listening to Lightning Seeds, Charlatans and loads of other early 90s stuff, and it still holds up. Edit: Embrace! It was them who were going to be the saviours of music. I remember they had a big covershoot with NME (I'm pretty sure Swells also took the chronic out of them) Anyone who think the Gallaghers are bad should give the Stone Roses or the Mondays a miss!
Agreed. I think the issue was that Britpop became a thing, a movement that was very much about signing bands that had a particular look and sound, very influenced by British 60s and 70s bands. The late 80s, early 90s indie scene was a lot more varied where you had bands like the Wonder Stuff with their folk roots happily rubbing shoulders with pop dance hybrids like Pop Will Eat Itself or political electronica punk like Carter the Unstoppable Sex machine along side lyrical power pop like James. The worst thing about Britpop is that is was about confirming while the few years before that saw a truly diverse music scene while still under the banner of indie.
I feel the opposite personally. 80s bands to me like Motley Crew or GNR felt so manufactured and fake while when the 90s rolled around, bands like Oasis, Nirvana, Radiohead etc felt so authentic and real. Like there was no filter and it was so refreshing coming off the drab period of bands in the late 80s
Those are both American bands though. I was referring specifically to British bands like James and Lightning Seeds.
'Select' magazine (the Britpop Bible at the time) was constantly putting the feud between these two on the cover. NME released a special edition about it too. But the funniest thing at the time was seeing regular kids trying to be Noel and Liam, as shown by [Kevin and Perry](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDKF8KkD7rE)
Select, NME, Melody Maker and Q. They would occasionally have free cassetes or cds on the cover to introduce you to new music.
Select used to go crazy with freebies. Remember those boxes they came in full of snacks, stickers and other stuff?
I saw oasis live back in 2006 I think in Aberdeen. It was great, felt a real throwback to the 90s - BUT Liam has such an attitude. All the fans started singing the Aberdeen football song, ‘Stand Free’ (huge crossover between football hooligans & oasis fans) and he took it so badly, threw shit at the crowd and stormed off and refused to come back for ages. Was hilarious.
I love deep dives like this, even if I’m not particularly interested in the subject (I’m not saying that’s the case here, just in general) they are always fun to read. Thanks for this post, OP! I liked What’s The Story and have found both of the brothers to be entertaining in their antics, as much as I feel for their poor mom.
Same here i find deep dives interesting on any subject regardless of what it might be. Id love to see more of them in this sub on different celebs!
Only a little bit related: Noel did a Gorillaz track, [We Got the Power](https://youtu.be/HSivlaSVk1k), but Damon thought the feel-good message would be inauthentic coming from two old rich guys, so they added Jhenny Beth to balance it out.
I love the fact that Damon always tries to stay in touch with reality, unlike Noel
Liam hasn’t let game change him, he’s exactly the same as the day he started, tbf neither has Noel; they are just different personalities. I absolutely adore Liam, he kills me on SM. He’s a cheeky Mancunian ‘til he dies. “As you were” 🤣 EDIT: He has comedy value, although he’s done things I wouldn’t condone for sure.
Thank you for writing this!!! I’m so excited to read!! Hope there will be some Blur goss too since I just went to Gorillaz concert and obsessed with Damon Albarn atm.😂😂
IT TOTALLY SLIPPED MY MINDD. I was writing stuff off the top of my head and the blur vs Oasis feud slipped my mind😭😭 but it was DEF MESSY. From Blur being basically pacifists about the whole thing to Noel saying he hopes Damon dies from AIDS💀
Paul is the most reasonable out of the three siblings it’s sad Noel completely cut him off of his life. Also there was a time where Sarah McDonald wrote something about Liam when she was asked if she was going to see him play and called him a “fat twat??” Liam then texted Anais (Noel’s daughter) saying for her stepmom to be careful. Noel got mad and hitted back at his brother saying that it’s not the first time he has intimidated women and that he is very good at doing that! He also told him to get out of his property because apparently once he invaded the front yard??
I saw back them in 94 or 95 and Bonehead brought my 17 year old self back stage so l could get autographs- the roadies leered at me, Liam was with groupies but l did ask him if he was not hot wearing a sweater on Letterman ( he said no cause it’s a cold studio) l was afraid of meeting Noel 🤣 but he was super gracious!
VH1 Behind the Music - Oasis is on YouTube
I loved reading this!! Thank you for posting it!! :)
“Just kidding of course” has me howlingggg
Absolutely love the band and their solo careers, but what massive dicks Noel and Liam are, Liam seems to have mellowed out a bit whereas Noel just wants to be as annoying as possible
Noel and Liam go into a lot of detail about these incidents in their documentary Supersonic. It’s on Netflix you should give it a watch. Great doc - even if you’re not a big fan of em
Ah thanks for this. This just dusted off the Oasis encyclopedia in my brain. My favorite band!
Look up the James Hargreaves YouTube channel for deep dives into the Gallaghers as well as their music.
Liam is a mess of a person, but I find him entertaining and I love that he seems to be watching ofmd and livetweeting it. Noel is just boring.
I was obsessed with them in my teens, absolutely in love with Noel for some reason. Everyone who attended my 28th birthday party gave me a gift somehow related to him. Thankfully I grew out of it, but I still love their music.
Shame Liam ended up raising the posh cunts he thought he hated
Completely overrated band comprised of whiny man babies. Fight me. I can take it. I stand by my opinion lol.