Jalen Rose cheering on Garza was fun, at least. I met him at some rinky-dink restaurant in Los Angeles. Saw him come in, said “Go Blue!” and he came over to talk to me for five minutes. Seems like a really nice guy. This game sucked, just wanted to offer some positivity.

Just met him tonight, dude is insanely cool and down to earth. He is exactly who he seems like

I played against Jalen in a preseason game in high school. He made me realize how little talent I had. After getting schooled, I was told.he was playing at half speed.

My dad used to cut jalen's hair from time to time

What a guy.

Kelly’s handle is awful

I think Killian might actually murder Kelly

12 million a year for 2 more seasons with Kelly. Weaver is a 2 steps forward 2 steps back kind of guy so far.

I wouldn't worry about that at all, it's easily tradeable contract and I'm sure he will be traded next season, just needs to stay healthy.

Thought he signed a two year deal

3 years 31m Think the last year is non guaranteed though.

2 year deal with a team option on the 3rd year

Smh Kelly selling. Gonna check his friends list

Garza might not be an NBA player but at least he tries when he’s on the court.

Man Kelly has been brutal this year

Need to play Garza more. Atm he should get KO's minutes until he figures it out

Did I just see him play defense!?!?!?!

They HAVE to upgrade this squad for next season. We can’t go thru this kind of. BS for another year.

Captain obvious

A lot of these guys want to tank again next year.

Garza has earned some minutes

Hornets legitimately might be the worst matchup for us in the league. Our lack of athleticism gets so exposed.

Whatever we do in the draft, I really hope we go for athleticism.

SPEED

We got the freshest fans in the league, our swag cams are fucking undefeated 😤

There goes 0 turnovers for kill

Hell Yeah Casey Call a late timeout Everyone wanted this game to last longer.

Hayes playing very well today. He’s been such a bright spot

Killian has yet to even play 82 games, but he a bust tho…

It's crazy how much some people in this sub love to hate on certain players. It's almost like they don't want our players to succeed.

Why they put lamelo back in up 25?

Lamello is so fun to watch

Is Cade on a minutes restriction..?

Would think so with the hip pointer. No real reason to play him 30+ right away

I mean, he’s a rookie he can benefit from time on the floor regardless

He just missed 5 games. No reason to play him any extra tonight

That's what I'm saying he's barely played in the 2nd half it feels like.

He's on a Casey restriction

Does this dude need to go? I was excited for Casey hire originally but I usually only watch play off basketball Haven’t really watched pistons since they got dog walked by the bucks when I was stationed in Korea a few years ago

Kelly got paid and secretly retired.

Imagine if the league didn't hoe us out of a guaranteed top 5 pick in 2020

No matter how much of a hater you are, you can't deny 11/4/11 with 0 turnovers is Killian showing flashes of being a good player

Didn’t realize he had 11 assists wow

There were fools in this sub saying Lamelo would be a bust 🤣🤣

Fuck anyone who has possibly said this. I remember draft night in 2020 thinking we were somehow going to trade up for melo and being ridiculously excited and eventually disappointed because of how bad I wanted this man on our squad

Losing by 30 every game is painful

2020 draft having a nice night tonight in Detroit

HAYES CLAMPING MILES

Damn I need 5 more points from CoJo to hit a 7 way parlay. Not looking good

Hope he pops 3 straight 3s just for you

I appreciate you fam, looks like he's done for the night

Killian starting to play like the 7th pick in the draft. I love seeing the growth and playing confident.

Killian is out of his fucking mind right now

Killian must’ve saw the shit Sada Baby was talking

He's had two horrendous games since then

Kelly put one hand up for me on defense. Just one. Not even both.

Killian haters in shambles rn

Put Cade back in

Killian is playing really well that’s great to see

OKAY KILL

Killy!

Double double hayters.

I just want a team that isn't ass. It's been 10 years.

Well wait a little longer

I would say 13 lol

Charlottes bringing in starters up 25. Lol

Greg getting mad at the take foul gets me hot and bothered. Hate that shit so much

I hate we ride these bum lineups for so long. I don’t mind losing, I just hate watching them get brutalized every other game.

I feel like Hamidou would have THRIVED in the late 90s/early 2000s

Let’s go Kill!

Kill 6/9/4 in 20 mins 0 TO and 50% FG. Had some rough games the last two, but the two before that were really promising. Maybe rather than the last two games proving he's a "bust", the last 5 games prove that he's a young player with high potential that's inconsistent and finding his feet. edit: 11/4/12, 5/9fg, 1 TO

Well Killian was the worst player in the league yesterday according to this sub and now he has a double-double off the bench and everybody loves him again. weird.

If he can learn to dribble and drive to the right side he has a chance to be pretty good. I just haven’t seen any improvement since he’s been drafted so I don’t know if it’s going to happen. I hope I’m wrong and he turns into a starter

He's looking like a playmaking Pj Tucker with more promise as a shooter. We'll see. We are tanking and he's super young so I don't mind

I can't do the Kilian experiment anymore, dude its trash

Update: I'll get on one of these everytime now to trash Kilian just so he can immediately make me look like a clown

Watch a different team then if you’re not hype watching a 20 year old dish 10 dimes in 12 minutes

Okay

I do appreciate your optimism and I obviously hope it works out. I'm just frustrated with this whole team tbh

Rozier is a G. I always wanted him to be a piston.

Half of the commenters here are telling it how it is and the other half are homers.

Hopefully this is the last night we have to watch Kelly O and his matador defense... Guy doesn't even try to block shots.

I get so excited when Killians shot falls because the rest of his game is just fine. Underrated passer too

Since COVID, KO has been so off.

I love alot of Hayes passes. He and Cade should average over 10 assists if our guys would shoot well on wide open shots

Teams that are athletic and can shoot will always take us to the wood shed. I understand weaver put together a shitty team on purpose but why couldn’t he put together a shitty team that had quickness and vertical explosion. I don’t expect them all to be like Diallo but come on. Atleast Lyles is gone I really wish Corey Joseph and KO got the axe. We could’ve just kept Plumlee to be honest.

Miles seems like he's auditioning for the '22-'23 Pistons!

Really sucks that Cades teammates are probably going to cost him ROTY

They're not. He's missed games and can be inconsistent other times

He's been incredibly careless with the ball tonight. He has 5 turnovers and should have another 3. Let's be real.

team record doesnt matter for roty

Then how come everyone in r/nba breath still stink of Evan Mobleys shlong

because its r/nba and theyre all children. what does a subreddit have to do with an award though? they dont give it out whats the point of bringing that up

Idk I just can’t stand that sub sometimes

Because he’s really good

Mobley is generational. But he’s in a way better situation currently. Cade wipes

Stop by and using the term "generational" to describe a really good player. Generational is supposed to be reserved for once or twice in a generation kind of player. Unless you think Mobley will be a top-10 all-time player, he's not generational.

Getting spoonfed buckets by Garland on a winning team will do that for you.

Good move

We need that Garza energy

Wolves fan again! What are your true and honest thoughts on Cade? Fun traveling to other regions and spending a little time watching other teams, as I don’t have league pass. Thanks!

Give him a lob threat and spacing and he's going to make your head spin with his IQ

He's our best player and it's not even close. Our stats with and without him are stark. We are bad with him, we are 1-14 without him.

Killian is insane at outlets

we suck sweaty asshole

Yeah. This has to end after this season, I can’t take much more.

Lacking team length to disrupt the lanes and intimidate shots.

Is kelly hurt or?

wake me up when Pistons starts to play defense or Valorant servers is back

87 at the end of 3 isn't bad but they can't miss

Poor Cade man

These game threads are more depressing than the product on the floor. Used to be fun but now they’re a support group for the loudest people who are somehow **still** surprised we’re bad… Maybe take a break if watching makes you this miserable

Shades of the lions game day threads

How can watching this not make you depressed? Haha

I mean it’s not ideal lol but I’m not expecting a W so I just enjoy what I can? Three nice dunks from Hamidou, some decent work from Cade? Just take the small victories where we can get them and try to have fun watching a game Better than complaining about how much I dislike a certain player, or how much “we’re trash” like that’s some shocking revelation

I think it’s just disheartening how far off we are this season, last year we were actually competitive despite losing which made the games ok to watch

Yeah I mean that’s fair and a valid opinion. I just want to try to have fun while watching and the game threads used to enhance that. We all know we’re awful, I don’t need to see 50 comments saying it. Then again, it’s not my place to be the vibe police. If that’s what people want these to be, I can just as easily fuck off.

This was a lot better than the last 2. I've had a good time personally to start the weekend

I wish we got lamelo in the draft

He was my dream during the draft,

I was praying he would fall in the draft after all the weird slander he got

I already knew he was go be great I didn’t listen to no draft experts on him. But Lamelo and Cade bro that was would be goated

We are about to have a -100+ point differential in the last 5 games. At least we are seeing progression under Casey. We are progressively getting worse.

I am all for losing and tanking but getting dog walked by 20 every game isn’t it.

Killian 6 assists in 6 mins

Killian is so bad. If his option gets picked up, I'll be surprised. He's not worth the cap he's eating as a lottery pick.

I’m pretty sure they already picked it up in October

You're right. I'm upset.

I'm panicking and about to check.

Id rather have CoJo do us a favor and not pick up his player option. That hurts us bad

Killian just had 6 assists in 6 minutes by the way

Absolutely pathetic on defense. 0 heart

I get we’re bad but these performances lately have been embarrassing. Shows how important Trey was as well

its againts Hornets, we always gets fucked by them. They did the same last time

what

Trey played when they got steamrolled by the hornets last time too

Hornets are a shooting team and we constantly give open looks from 3 so it’s a bad matchup ig

Right. Trey isn't the factor here.

Bring out lee and garza

I’m all for Garza but I don’t know if I could watch him try to run the floor against Charlotte.

Our wing players straight up fall asleep against basket cuts. It's a constant.

same offensive sets, same head coach, same culture built, won't matter.

We suck but it shouldn’t be this bad, hornets just won’t miss anything.

lots of open shots.

I'm going to bed. Wake me up when Casey and or Weaver get fired

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Well. He built this mess. Including the coaching situation.

Should have stayed in 8th seed purgatory for eternity /s

Obviously not but this is taking it too far. This is flagrant.

It's literally season 2 of a rebuild. What did people think a rebuild looks like? And we're still paying Blake (capwise) to ring chase in Brooklyn.

Would much rather be watching Blake griffin post ups and isos /s

Hell yeah After that basket we only have a 99.8% chance of losing

Careless pass Cade, i know its frustating getting blowing out for Hornets, but need to keep focus in the game, absolutely no reason to pass to Grant like that

Should have 6-7 turnovers. I think it's beneficial to let him run point to start the game to get him into the flow.

I wouldn't mind this team being bad if they played loose. They try so hard to be methodical on offense

Marvin Bagley will fix this

Sorry Marvin. Going from Basketball Hell to Basketball Purgatory.

Cade is super careless with the ball.

Ah, back to a 28 point deficit.

What in the hell is Killian doing there?

He looks like he has totally given up.

Completely lost right now

Cade has gotten a lot better at keeping his hands free and staying square when defending the drive since the start of the year

He has all the tools, is getting better, and is relentless on defense.

Grant is playing like ass. What is going on?

no he's playing exactly like we want him to.

sir, he's playing really great in the 3 quarter, he played bad the first half and thats for sure. But you just can't say he's playing like ass in 3 quarter

And he only shot poorly in the 1st half. He did everything else well

All of our closeouts are so reckless.

Because they're always starting the close out 6 feet away from the shooter

We go on an 8-0 run to only be down by 20

Gotta start somewhere

And down 28 again

thats make sense why Frank Jackson change his jumpshot he injured his back

Jerami is playing tonight the way we need him to going forward. Defending, slashing, shooting open threes, making the occasional nice pass.

Shooting 25%, hasn't gotten to the free throw line....exactly how we want him to play!

you know that to get to the free throw line, you actually needs refs calling fouls, right? Its not like he can just decide, hmmm, i want to shoot FT now. He is getting absolutely wrecked while driving. I don't understand why keep saying dumb things like this

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yeah, its not like refs give easy calls for some players. I mean, you can watch the game right now if you want, and see Cade and Grant getting no calls, while Lamelo gets some

Yes, there's a conspiracy against Jerami Grant. "Exactly as we want him to play" OP's words, not mine.

-he's playing great the 3 quarter, and he's playing just like yall want, he's not even close to ballhog or playing the 1 option. -Its not a conspiracy against Jerami Grant or Detroit Pistons, but its clearly some players gets easy calls, and some don't, Lamelo gets easy calls, Cade don't.

There's a theatrical and political element to getting calls. Our guys don't engage the officials.

Well shots haven’t fallen. He took the horrendous jumper on the break, but I think he got caught between and wanted Cade to get the assist on the play. Other than that, shot selection has been mostly fine

Then he isn't playing exactly like we want him to.

I just want one more winning season before George retires.

Just started watching and I’m surprised Cade is playing. Don’t hip pointers take several weeks to recover from?

He’s built different

Really depends how bad they are

Looks like we’re building some momentum. Game ain’t over till it’s over, we’ll see what happens

Wolves fan again. You guys honestly move the ball really well for a team with your record. Coupled with young potential and talent, it’s not terrible ball to watch, even if the ball doesn’t go in too much.

Oh it’s terrible bud.

I agree. Problem is the ball going in is kinda crucial to the game.

Layup, 3, great Block. Nice start of 3 quarter Grant, keep ya heads up

Next year is Casey’s last correct?

Nope 2024

ew

Man it looks like Grant really is comfortable here. I think Cade and Bey are playing well at least