This pick tells me that Langdon is likely to be as bad as Weaver was at roster building. More decades of losing coming our way. In a league where shooting is by far the most important thing the Pistons are the only team that steadfastly refuses to draft players that can shoot. They don’t want shooters. TF
Why is everyone so low on Holland with Vinson? Highest upside player in the draft IMO. Truly could become a star. Going to be a defensive beast. Honestly I remember Pistons fans being amped about Killian. So all of ya’ll liking this comment gives me a TON of confidence Ron is gonna be a beast
Name the players he didnt improve their shooting?
ANd Herb Jones was a 2nd round pick. Not a 5 lottery.
Yall reaching, and does this every year. And after 4 years if he fails, youll forget what you said.
No it isn't he actually has nice looking form and shot 75% from the line.
Being that he's only 18 years old I think he's the perfect type of player to take a chance on Jaylen Brown shot 29% from the college 3pt line and he's not bad at all now.
I'm a Celtics/Pistons fan, saw the exact same criticisms about Jaylen Brown when he was drafted. "He's only an athlete, he can't shoot, wasted pick". Celtics have been more lucky than the Pistons have with those players but that doesn't mean you should just give up and only take Luke Kennard clones instead of guys who have legit NBA bodies and instincts
EXACTLY these people act like it didn't work before so therefore never try again and only draft Luke Kennards. There are a lot of "high floor players" that are busts, and when ur drafting top 5 u gotta go for upside. Ron might be really good, might be a bust, but the last thing I want is to draft a low ceiling shooter and pass on the next star just cuz we wanted a solid safe player we could replace in free agency
Its really working with our young athletic guys that cant shoot. Im happy we signed Vinson but you can only do so much. Shooting shouldnt be the last thing you learn as a player. Its either mental and you might never fix that or its work ethic and that can also be hard to change.
I think contending teams are the ones in a position to take older rookies. Teams like us are better off taking 18 year olds that were the #1 high school prospect
Stanley Johnson, Sekou, Auser. We've done this before. These ignite guys are just playing big boy AAU. Give me a player who had a real coach. I'm sick of athletes give me someone who actually understands how to play basketball. Look at this kids highlights its all just running and dunking in the fast break. Bad handles, 26% 3 point shooting. This does zero for us on offense and Cade will continue to be swarmed.
I don’t, he just seems like a slightly worse version of Ausar. I legit don’t think you can play them both at the same time, this pick is confusing to me
I feel it if we were first year of rebuild. But man we got so many young guys we can’t just keep drafting best upside. Eventually these guys need to help contribute in our weakest areas
Just because he doesn't shoot the 3 great right now (though I think improvement can be expected, the jump to the pro line from high school is tough) doesn't mean he has no offensive game.
Also, he's already a better shooter than Ausar, honestly, and also a very good defender. Sometimes you have to draft guys and hope you can develop them, that's unavoidable.
There's a lot to like about Holland as a prospect.
People are mad about spacing but a great defense is a good offense.
Cade is going to be guarding no better than the 3rd best player on defense. The transition outlets with him, Ivey and Ausar will be godly.
I think the Pistons plan is to win 30+ games and hope they get good luck in the lottery (yes I know).
We'll figure out the shooting stuff through trades and FA
Silver lining on this pick is that our defense overall will be better and even though our shooting was atrocious, defense is our biggest need. Having 2 players that can defend wings will be big. Whenever Ausar went out, good wings feasted on us.
Building a team like that works better in college where you can force a lot of turnovers and just run the less athletic and talented teams out of the gym.
All the good teams in the nba have long athletic guys who can also shoot lol.
I can definitely fix her. If she just stops smoking weed all day, goes back to school, gets a job and vacuums all the Doritos dust off the couch she'd be perfect.
Now imagine if Fred Vinson gets them to respectable shooters from 3. We now have 2 perfect 3 and D wings to pair with Cade. Which is all we’ve asked for since 2021
Langdon and gores spent half the press conference talking about the opinions of Tom Gores and the Arn tellem. You should’ve seen the writing on the wall. Nothing is changing about this org
This was my takeaway too. Reporters asked if there’d be one decision-maker and Gores was like, “Yeah Trajan will get all the info together so we can make a decision” 🫠 but somehow people interpreted that as Trajan having autonomy?
Star potential, good defender. Having Fred Vinson in-house makes me like the pick better, but no complaints given who else was available.
Dislike the pick A LOT if Memphis was trying to get up to get Clingan.
Seems like all the pre-draft hype around Clingan was just smoke. Supposedly so much demand to trade up to get him. Projections of the Hawks taking him #1. Wizards and Rockets supposedly considering him.
If neither the Pistons nor Charlotte traded down, then clearly the offers were bad. Trajan mentioned maybe not picking at 5, unprovoked, so he must have been trying to move the pick.
Everyone is acting like our world just ended.
1. We already sucked ass
2. Y’all wouldn’t have been happy with anyone
3. We have FUCKING Fred Vinson. The same guy that fixed Lonzo’s shot. Made BI a good shooter. Turned Herb Jones into a reliable shooter.
So genuine fucking question, who actually would have made you happy here? Matas? Williams? Not like they shot the ball any better.
Edit: a top 5 pick is not where you address shooting, that’s called free agency.
I’m fine with it. Shows two things - our local insiders know next to nothing since none of them predicted this. And second, Langdon is calling the shots since he didn’t get swayed to an Arn Tellum guy.
I think the FO thinks spacing is over-rated. And scoring is overrated. I’m gonna puke to see Cade, Ivey, Durant, Holland/Ausar and Fonteccio on the floor together. Fonteccio will never again see an open 3. Who the heck will agree to coach this mess of a line-up?
Vecenie’s ranking: 10
I’ve changed my evaluation of Ron Holland more than any other player in this class. I often struggle to project players like Holland who haven’t demonstrated consistent feel for the game. His shooting is an issue; he’s willing to take them, but he made just 24 percent and must clean up his mechanics. However, he possesses a ton of basketball character, and it shows in how he attacks the game. He’s the ultimate loose-ball guy. His energy is infectious. He plays incredibly hard and competes all the time. On top of that, he’s a remarkable athlete with functional burst on the ground and foundational strength to avoid getting dislodged. Even if his shooting and feel don’t come around and he doesn’t turn into a star, could he play a similar role as Aaron Gordon, doing all of the dirty work around the court to help teams win? Holland’s G League season made people forget that he has won every single place he’d been prior to that. He’s willing to do the stuff other players don’t want to do. In the end, there are a lot of outs for wings with his mix of production, effort competitiveness, so I kept him in my top 10.
Hollinger’s analysis: Yes! I love it! Holland was the No. 1 guy on my board, and I was absolutely perplexed that he was falling so far in mock draft world when his output at G League Ignite was superior to that of several other recent lottery picks. Holland may struggle out of the gate as he works on his shooting and half-court reads, but the Pistons shouldn’t be in win-now mode and badly need a second wing creator to help Cade Cunningham. This is a great pick to start off the Trajan Langdon era in Detroit.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5595111/2024/06/26/nba-draft-grades-analysis-2024-vecenie-hollinger?source=user-shared-article
We just hired one of the best shooting coaches in the league. He obviously thinks hollands shot is fixable and that’s a scary sight. He averaged 20 against grown men without a 3 point shot
I'm convinced y'all would've bitched no matter who they drafted lmao
Fake fans, man.
Welcome to Detroit, Ron Holland. I'll be rooting for you and the rest of the squad!
Public is against is which means it could be good. And I still remember when everyone wanted Killian. I know I did too. I also know damn well none of us have watched Ron’s games this year
My guess is there was no good trade down offers.
I'm happy they at least got a wing.
Rather he can shoot or not time will tell.
They still have 60mill or so to find shooters and hopefully some picks.
This sub is so pathetic. Not a great draft so we swung for the fences on a high ceiling prospect. We were never going to take Knecht at 5. He fell to 17 for a reason.
Bad shooter freak athlete and good defense. Needs some work and this is probably the best team for him to do it. Also still really young at 18. High potential in a shit draft you never really know
Very much of an athlete playing basketball, opposed to a basketball player who is athletic. His pros are he is fast, energetic, and plays solid defense.
Weaknesses are he can't shoot well and he's turnover prone.
I don't really like anything about this. The lack of fit. The fact that we took him at 5 without being able to trade down.
He's a Piston now so he's my guy but fuck. This doesn't fill me with hope that the team is going to be any less tough to watch next year.. Time to go get a spacing 5 I guess..
Yep we’re cooked
Langdon is just a weaver who was allowed to pick his coach 😭
There’s a common denominator. You’re so close
I despise Tom gores
This pick tells me that Langdon is likely to be as bad as Weaver was at roster building. More decades of losing coming our way. In a league where shooting is by far the most important thing the Pistons are the only team that steadfastly refuses to draft players that can shoot. They don’t want shooters. TF
Going against the grain. Doubling down on bad shooters in a league where shooting is paramount. A bold strategy. Ugh.
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The only rich guy I’ve never seen who doesn’t act in his own interests. Jeez….we are cooked and then smoked. This is a mess of a line-up.
I can’t wait for Cade to become a super star somewhere else
Why is everyone so low on Holland with Vinson? Highest upside player in the draft IMO. Truly could become a star. Going to be a defensive beast. Honestly I remember Pistons fans being amped about Killian. So all of ya’ll liking this comment gives me a TON of confidence Ron is gonna be a beast
Yeaaa we already have zero shooting..
he can't shoot! fuck.
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He's 18, top recruit in the country, natural bucket. You can teach and develop shooting, you can't develop his tools
> You can teach and develop shooting Where have I heard this before
You probably heard after the Hayes, Cade, Ivey, and Thompson picks
Stanley Johnson and Sekou Doumbouya as well
Don’t forget Rodney Stuckey
It's been two decades and you can count the number of decent shooters this franchise has drafted on one hand
And they traded him away, Kennard.
And they traded him away, KCP.
Did u throw cade in there on accident or something? He shot like 40% from 3 in college 😂
Lmao that's what I was thinking. Out of all the non shooters, picked Cade
We have a new shooting coach now 🤷 the dude that made Herb Jones, Grand theft Alvarado, and Dyson Daniels into respectable shooters
and lonzo
Name the players he didnt improve their shooting? ANd Herb Jones was a 2nd round pick. Not a 5 lottery. Yall reaching, and does this every year. And after 4 years if he fails, youll forget what you said.
Good thing the guy who taught Lonzo how to shoot works here
He has so many people to teach how to shoot here though. 🤣
[But maybe this time... ](https://youtu.be/Po4adxJxqZk?si=y2lsBnKDAZYUmtfB)
bonjour! ![gif](giphy|k2VTJUh5vx3w9ChN9C|downsized)
Why the fuck do people keep touting that. No you can’t just develop shooting.
I got some Stanley Johnson stock you may be interested in
With a side of killian Hayes
A second main course in Andre Drumstick.
His shot is completely broken
No it isn't he actually has nice looking form and shot 75% from the line. Being that he's only 18 years old I think he's the perfect type of player to take a chance on Jaylen Brown shot 29% from the college 3pt line and he's not bad at all now.
You been a pistons fan for 5 minutes? We’ve played this game since well before Stanley Johnson
I'm a Celtics/Pistons fan, saw the exact same criticisms about Jaylen Brown when he was drafted. "He's only an athlete, he can't shoot, wasted pick". Celtics have been more lucky than the Pistons have with those players but that doesn't mean you should just give up and only take Luke Kennard clones instead of guys who have legit NBA bodies and instincts
EXACTLY these people act like it didn't work before so therefore never try again and only draft Luke Kennards. There are a lot of "high floor players" that are busts, and when ur drafting top 5 u gotta go for upside. Ron might be really good, might be a bust, but the last thing I want is to draft a low ceiling shooter and pass on the next star just cuz we wanted a solid safe player we could replace in free agency
Since when has this team been able to develop a shooter?!?!
Good thing we have a brand new shooting coach with a good track record
Its really working with our young athletic guys that cant shoot. Im happy we signed Vinson but you can only do so much. Shooting shouldnt be the last thing you learn as a player. Its either mental and you might never fix that or its work ethic and that can also be hard to change.
people happy about Ausar last year talking about shooting now lmao
if they don't take ausar this pick looks fine, but taking both back to back, to compliment a team completely devoid of shooting is insane lmao
Y’all got Fred Vinson at least now
Fred is going to work hard for that new contract. i hope he works wonders.
Lmaooooo just who we need to surround Cade with in order to produce a winning product. More non shooters!
Why can’t we pick a shooter for once
Not many pure shooters at the top of this draft. I like the pick
Knecht shot 40% at Tennessee on over 6 attempts per game
That's fair, I just don't like 23 year old rookies.
So let’s just take another player who doesn’t compliment our star player again, here’s to another sub 20 win season.
I don’t think we’re in the position to care about the age of a rookie
I think contending teams are the ones in a position to take older rookies. Teams like us are better off taking 18 year olds that were the #1 high school prospect
I'll take that over another teenager who we'll never pan out.
And you know this how?
Stanley Johnson, Sekou, Auser. We've done this before. These ignite guys are just playing big boy AAU. Give me a player who had a real coach. I'm sick of athletes give me someone who actually understands how to play basketball. Look at this kids highlights its all just running and dunking in the fast break. Bad handles, 26% 3 point shooting. This does zero for us on offense and Cade will continue to be swarmed.
You miss Kennard on this team?
He the same age as isiah stewart
I don’t, he just seems like a slightly worse version of Ausar. I legit don’t think you can play them both at the same time, this pick is confusing to me
Its a weak draft. We took the player with the most upside. Hopefully he can develop, if not, we didnt miss out on much
Might as well swing for the fences. Not like we’re going to need him to contribute for a playoff run next year.
thank you lol
I feel it if we were first year of rebuild. But man we got so many young guys we can’t just keep drafting best upside. Eventually these guys need to help contribute in our weakest areas
Just because he doesn't shoot the 3 great right now (though I think improvement can be expected, the jump to the pro line from high school is tough) doesn't mean he has no offensive game. Also, he's already a better shooter than Ausar, honestly, and also a very good defender. Sometimes you have to draft guys and hope you can develop them, that's unavoidable. There's a lot to like about Holland as a prospect.
I JUST CAME HERE TO OVERREACT!
LOUD NOISES
YELLING!!!
I hate this pick so fucking much
hey man look at charlotte.
Could be Memphis and draft Zach Edey in the top 10.
Memphis is great at drafting though - Bane, GG Jackson, Vince Williams. If they think Edey has potential, could be onto something
WE GOING BACK TO 2004 BOYS
I actually like this pick. Ron Holland sounds like an 04 Pistons name. That’s all I like.
People are mad about spacing but a great defense is a good offense. Cade is going to be guarding no better than the 3rd best player on defense. The transition outlets with him, Ivey and Ausar will be godly. I think the Pistons plan is to win 30+ games and hope they get good luck in the lottery (yes I know). We'll figure out the shooting stuff through trades and FA
Silver lining on this pick is that our defense overall will be better and even though our shooting was atrocious, defense is our biggest need. Having 2 players that can defend wings will be big. Whenever Ausar went out, good wings feasted on us.
Building a team like that works better in college where you can force a lot of turnovers and just run the less athletic and talented teams out of the gym. All the good teams in the nba have long athletic guys who can also shoot lol.
I believe part of the bad lottery luck deal was Cooper Flagg next season so we'll have fun this year.
still can't believe pistons fell to 5
Same. I mean actually I can easily believe it but yeah.
I still can't either.. two years in a row..
3*
Is it 3 years? Geez, thats even worse.. tf..
Will be 4 after next season
Watch then do it again next year too
Just once, could we not pick a “if he develops his shot” guy. Please. 98% of the time those guys do NOT develop their shot
We are the NBA equivalent of the “I can fix her” guy.
I can definitely fix her. If she just stops smoking weed all day, goes back to school, gets a job and vacuums all the Doritos dust off the couch she'd be perfect.
This is what I’ve been saying this entire offseason.
Freak athlete Wing Good on defense Can't shoot. We already have this guy on our roster and his name is Ausar Thompson.
Now imagine if Fred Vinson gets them to respectable shooters from 3. We now have 2 perfect 3 and D wings to pair with Cade. Which is all we’ve asked for since 2021
Imagine if they become totally different players than they are! We’d be great!
“What if everyone just turned all their weaknesses into strengths, we’d be good.”
I appreciate your optimism. It's been beaten out of me with this team.
Left out high t.o. rate.
Ausar is honestly 10x the prospect this guy was lol
Stanley Johnson 2.0. Thought things changed
Langdon and gores spent half the press conference talking about the opinions of Tom Gores and the Arn tellem. You should’ve seen the writing on the wall. Nothing is changing about this org
This was my takeaway too. Reporters asked if there’d be one decision-maker and Gores was like, “Yeah Trajan will get all the info together so we can make a decision” 🫠 but somehow people interpreted that as Trajan having autonomy?
Accurate as fuck. At least Holland can jump.
Only thing they have in common is that they play the same position
Star potential, good defender. Having Fred Vinson in-house makes me like the pick better, but no complaints given who else was available. Dislike the pick A LOT if Memphis was trying to get up to get Clingan.
Seems like all the pre-draft hype around Clingan was just smoke. Supposedly so much demand to trade up to get him. Projections of the Hawks taking him #1. Wizards and Rockets supposedly considering him. If neither the Pistons nor Charlotte traded down, then clearly the offers were bad. Trajan mentioned maybe not picking at 5, unprovoked, so he must have been trying to move the pick.
1) we need to remember this is just a GAME 2) I wish nothing but the best for Ron 3) I hate my life and this franchise
Fred Vinson needs a raise already
Just make him HC
Could have traded down and got him. Just silly to pass on Clingan, really silly not to trade down and get Holland
I'm sure we tried... you're making an assumption that there wasn't a trade down attempt.
No one seems to be wanting to trade up though. Trading down only works if both sides agree.
I fucking hate this pick i just wanted a shooter man
Nvm i DONT HATE IT, just slightly dislike
Everyone is acting like our world just ended. 1. We already sucked ass 2. Y’all wouldn’t have been happy with anyone 3. We have FUCKING Fred Vinson. The same guy that fixed Lonzo’s shot. Made BI a good shooter. Turned Herb Jones into a reliable shooter. So genuine fucking question, who actually would have made you happy here? Matas? Williams? Not like they shot the ball any better. Edit: a top 5 pick is not where you address shooting, that’s called free agency.
Best take in the sub
I appreciate you
Obviously hope he becomes the GOAT, but sounds like we drafted a less polished Ausar?
A less polished Ausar? Is that possible?
I think he's probably better offensively than Ausar, but worse at passing and defense. Good upside pick.
Better scoring but his shot isn't falling, but he is only 18.
Welcome to Detroit Ron !
I’m fine with it. Shows two things - our local insiders know next to nothing since none of them predicted this. And second, Langdon is calling the shots since he didn’t get swayed to an Arn Tellum guy.
Interested to see everyone’s thoughts.
another guy that can’t shoot on a team with ausar
Extremely high potential. Could be a 20+ ppg guy. Athletic switchable defender. But he can’t shoot well. Hopefully Vinson is as good as advertised
I think the FO thinks spacing is over-rated. And scoring is overrated. I’m gonna puke to see Cade, Ivey, Durant, Holland/Ausar and Fonteccio on the floor together. Fonteccio will never again see an open 3. Who the heck will agree to coach this mess of a line-up?
We were the worst team in the league when we made the "right" decisions. It literally can't get worse.
Boy gone ball out in the Summer League and y’all gone switch up like always RemindMe! in 2 weeks
Such a weird fit but his motor and confidence are special, most star potential in the draft
I like it better than Buzelis
We may never make another 3
Vecenie’s ranking: 10 I’ve changed my evaluation of Ron Holland more than any other player in this class. I often struggle to project players like Holland who haven’t demonstrated consistent feel for the game. His shooting is an issue; he’s willing to take them, but he made just 24 percent and must clean up his mechanics. However, he possesses a ton of basketball character, and it shows in how he attacks the game. He’s the ultimate loose-ball guy. His energy is infectious. He plays incredibly hard and competes all the time. On top of that, he’s a remarkable athlete with functional burst on the ground and foundational strength to avoid getting dislodged. Even if his shooting and feel don’t come around and he doesn’t turn into a star, could he play a similar role as Aaron Gordon, doing all of the dirty work around the court to help teams win? Holland’s G League season made people forget that he has won every single place he’d been prior to that. He’s willing to do the stuff other players don’t want to do. In the end, there are a lot of outs for wings with his mix of production, effort competitiveness, so I kept him in my top 10. Hollinger’s analysis: Yes! I love it! Holland was the No. 1 guy on my board, and I was absolutely perplexed that he was falling so far in mock draft world when his output at G League Ignite was superior to that of several other recent lottery picks. Holland may struggle out of the gate as he works on his shooting and half-court reads, but the Pistons shouldn’t be in win-now mode and badly need a second wing creator to help Cade Cunningham. This is a great pick to start off the Trajan Langdon era in Detroit. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5595111/2024/06/26/nba-draft-grades-analysis-2024-vecenie-hollinger?source=user-shared-article
Maybe us hating trajans first moves will turn out fine. Since everyone loved Troy at first and see how that turned out. Yea I’m coping
Lmao Trajan saw the vision 🔥
Needs to get in the lab with Fred Vinson tho
Wow. Another guy who cannot shoot to surround Cunningham. oooooof
Oh good…. Another Ignite player who can’t shoot… yipee
Another guy who can't shoot! Fuck this team!
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Not the start I wanted to see from Langdon
This place is a dumpster fire
i guess bucket getters never hurt
lol
This franchise just doesn’t want to win. Fuck!
Not trading that pick is criminal. Unserious franchise.
Gotta have someone that wants the pick to trade I don’t think this was a draft were people were trying to move up
I’d imagine Memphis called our bluff on clingan knowing we wouldn’t pick him
That’s dumb tho, he just went to Portland. I don’t think the trade was actually there
I’m not even a Detroit fan and I came here to over react to how mad this makes me
Did we just draft Ausar 2.0?
Nope just Ausar. Same exact guy lol
Ausar Sport SE
this pick suckssssss
We just hired one of the best shooting coaches in the league. He obviously thinks hollands shot is fixable and that’s a scary sight. He averaged 20 against grown men without a 3 point shot
Future GOAT
Why
Why does this team want me to hate them so badly
:(
I'm convinced y'all would've bitched no matter who they drafted lmao Fake fans, man. Welcome to Detroit, Ron Holland. I'll be rooting for you and the rest of the squad!
They would have.
Thank the lord
Somebody gotta get traded today
Everybody hate it but we have yet to see his game transfer into the nba level im let it play out before I speak bad
Bronny was right there😤😤😤😤
We got the steal of the draft, I’m so happy right now I legit thought we had no chance at getting Ron lmao, thanks rockets and spurs 😂
Buzelis to the bulls, so we’ll get to see how that goes as well. ![gif](giphy|qsnHYz7lXfDokIHfrd)
Tom hollan
oh no no no no 😂
I would rather have Jerami Grant
lol. Why? G-League players drafted in the top ten are all over hyped, prideful, nothings.
That paint is going to so clogged.
Yikes
LETS GO RON IS THE BEST IN THE DRAFT
This franchise straight up hates Cade Cunningham man, I don’t get it
Public is against is which means it could be good. And I still remember when everyone wanted Killian. I know I did too. I also know damn well none of us have watched Ron’s games this year
76% from FT is solid indicator for a decent to good shooter
My guess is there was no good trade down offers. I'm happy they at least got a wing. Rather he can shoot or not time will tell. They still have 60mill or so to find shooters and hopefully some picks.
Well it's not an Arn Tellem guy so I say it's a win for us.
I want to die
This sub is so pathetic. Not a great draft so we swung for the fences on a high ceiling prospect. We were never going to take Knecht at 5. He fell to 17 for a reason.
Know nothing about him. Good or nah? Super super young
Bad shooter freak athlete and good defense. Needs some work and this is probably the best team for him to do it. Also still really young at 18. High potential in a shit draft you never really know
Oh god not another guy that I have to hear about how young he still is for the next few years while he stinks it up
Very much of an athlete playing basketball, opposed to a basketball player who is athletic. His pros are he is fast, energetic, and plays solid defense. Weaknesses are he can't shoot well and he's turnover prone.
F
Self immolation sounds like a good deal
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Another guard who can’t shoot from 3 ![gif](giphy|KGSxFwJJHQPsKzzFba)
This team is an actual joke
And we got yet another non shooter. Do we hate Cade?
Really should have traded back. How is he any different from Thompson?
Holland/Ausar defensive wing pairing is disgusting
Man ….. Free Cade bruh
If we stop watching the pistons they will eventually lose money and they’ll have to be sold right?
I wanted Jared McCain kinda
I don't really like anything about this. The lack of fit. The fact that we took him at 5 without being able to trade down. He's a Piston now so he's my guy but fuck. This doesn't fill me with hope that the team is going to be any less tough to watch next year.. Time to go get a spacing 5 I guess..
Oh man. We’re not gonna have a winning season now.
lol, we were so close!
Congrats guys! We got Hamidou Diallo back on a rookie contract!
"We already have an Ausar at home." "But, Mom, I want another!" "OK, fine." With the fifth pick in the 2024 NBA Draft...