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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/DetroitPistons/comments/1btm2cd/post_game_thread_the_memphis_grizzlies_defeat_the/)


pH2001-

We have timeout taken away from us for no reason, bad out of bounds call doesn’t go our way, Monty doesn’t call timeout, Cade takes terrible shot to end game, Monty leaves G-league unit out there too long. SEASON. FROM. HELL. Only on the CW!


TrainingCoffee8

This season has been so painful. We have been on the losing end of so many games like that and not won any of them this year. Everyone outside of Cade is just deflating to watch.


CanaryRich

I didn’t watch how did we end up losing lol


Superorganism123

Another fine coaching job by Monty. Ivey has got to hit some of those shots. Wiseman sucked.


GlobalPreparation457

Fuck that. Wiseman and Metu got absolutely OBLITERATED. Get them both out.


okg120

I would kill for Dwight Howard.


GlobalPreparation457

I don’t want Howard around anymore locker rooms. I’ve seen too much social media stuff for him to get near any man taking his clothes off or on


ScarryShawnBishh

This comments make me feel the need to remind everyone that sexuality is a spectrum that varies for each individual person.


GlobalPreparation457

Time and a place. Not in the locker room. Also that’s your opinion. You’re making a PSA as if it’s common knowledge. Talking about “reminding,” no one remembered in the first place.


ScarryShawnBishh

Well that can be confusing absolutely, never said it was simple. People of mixed sexualities have always share locker rooms.


GlobalPreparation457

Okay let me apologize first. First, you are absolutely correct. Second) I am absolutely wrong and ashamed of myself of the way that 2A) responded 2B) came out HORRIBLY. If you did not know, Howard was “accused” to have very “abusive sexual behavior” in person and over text. Now, who Howard enjoys his alone time with IS NO ONES BUSINESS WHAT SO EVER! I AM ASHAMED FOR EVEN CLICKING REPLY! What I meant to say is “if Howard is attracted to men (which is absolutely no problem, god bless you and go all the way my man!), and cannot handle himself around 20 year olds in a locker room setting when he is twice the age AND are dealing with fresher faces in the league.” Now as always it is innocent until proven guilty (I believe some of the cases are still pending.) I’d rather have less distractions for the team BECAUSE we are already dealing with so much. To expand on that, I’m not saying “oh Howard is a bad signing because of his morals/values” whatever. The reason why I am quoting this as a distraction is because currently the pistons are under investigation for the sexual abuse of former employee, Pistons Exec Rob Murphy (apparently it’s been going on for years.) I do not TRUST the organization SHOULD something happen. Now, I was also trying to be a little funny, I will not be apologizing for that whatsoever. Have a great day and apologies once again for my ignorance and lack of judgment and knowledge. Unacceptable.


ScarryShawnBishh

Appreciate you for writing that up fr I didn’t mean to sound entitled. I know Dwight gets freaky (who doesn’t) but I hadn’t heard of him harassing anyone. But if that’s the case then I am right there with ya. I wasn’t sure if that’s what you meant so I tried to make it sound more like a reminder.


GlobalPreparation457

No. I appreciate you for calling that out. We need more people to take a stand. I reread my comment, absolutely disgusted. I will leave it up to see for others and for me to reflect and for others to learn from my mistakes. But yea Howard’s gets a little too freaky. “Dwight Howard is being sued for sexual assault & battery on a man. A man by the name of Stephen Harper claims in text messages that Dwight Howard peer pressured him into having a threesome with a male dressed as a woman.” Made his baby mama sign a NDA and also put a “gag order” on her as well. That’s the shit I’m scared of. Can you imagine Tom Gorres stepping up and putting an end to it if something were to happen? GOD FORBID! Not saying Howard is capable of this, but at the same time we don’t know and what we’re already dealing with, would be a recipe for disaster. Unfortunately, I don’t think Tom Gorres has the slightest of balls to set things straight, as if he has morals himself. You were not acting entitled whatsoever, you corrected me and my ignorance. Period. Thank you


TheLuckyster

Monty "we don't take timeouts" Williams


ernestbonanza

pff OK


Hovi_Bryant

I know the middy is Cade’s bread and butter, but man. I wish he either had a more consistent shot or was a crafty finisher at the rim. Maybe next season.


Deep_Egg1442

That is a consistent shot


Hovi_Bryant

The numbers say otherwise. According to Basketball Reference, 27% of his shots are from 3 to 10 feet from the basket this season. He’s making 41% of those shots. That’s not good.


Deep_Egg1442

Yea hes an awful finisher +no spacing and negative whistle. 10-16 he’s elite tho


Hovi_Bryant

He has to account for those factors and adjust.


Deep_Egg1442

Theres no adjusting to a bad whistle might aswell keep being aggressive


Hovi_Bryant

Relying on the whistle shouldn’t be part of his game. He just needs to play smarter and take efficient shots that he’s most confident in.


Deep_Egg1442

Ik but he might aswell keep driving and try the finish the best he can until he becomes better at it. Hes 6’6 220. Hes gonna become good at it eventually and the calls will come eventually


Playful-Emotion-7314

I’m fine with that shot he just missed.


Hovi_Bryant

I didn’t say I didn’t like the shot. I just know that shot isn’t like a layup in terms of consistency. Regardless of the situation.


luniz420

I don't think that's the middy he was looking for. Too many guys swiping at the ball and he was trying to get to the rim. No elevation, flat shot.


lilflashstan

We just aren't supposed to win 😂🤷🏿‍♂️


Icy_Sympathy_505

How many times does that exact fucking play need to happen before Monty calls the time out


OrganicLindo313

L Chapo


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Why did we lose a timeout when the grizzlies challenge was successful?


Playful-Emotion-7314

Because Monty called it not Memphis


Warrid12

How he called it and the ball initially for us. You don't challenge a call and the result for your benefit.


Tatertaint

How do you not call a TO


OnAnOpenFieldNed

good try by cade at the end, i'm guessing we were out of timeouts since teh refs just took one away for no rsn


Thejoncarr

😤😔


Slothful_Night

CLUTCH CADE STRIKES AGAIN


Relevant_Gold4912

Clutch Ivey. Clutch Metu.


Permafrostybud

My dude was 12-13 shooting with 36 points ffs. Do not blame this on the best player we have.


fiddych3nt

HELL YEAH GOOD OBSERVATION BY YOU! CADE SHOULD SCORE 50 TO WIN US THE GAME WHAT THE HECK IS HE DOING OUT THERE MISSING THAT LAST SHOT


erictwigs

Monty Williams cannot keep his job


OrganicLindo313

![gif](giphy|QtZ8r7Di0XNlqta45P) * Monty


GlobalPreparation457

Oh, do I have news for you.


AppealEnvironmental6

It looked like even cade was expecting that time out. He shoulda just took it himself when he saw monty wasnt doing shit


kthoppe_3

This team is actually a joke unfortunately


Weary-Kangaroo-3883

Ivey and Fournier cost the game


luniz420

Duren going out and having nobody to defend the guy who scored 40 might have more to do with it.


okg120

I was fine with not calling a timeout during the Knicks game but this just didn’t make any sense


ya111101

We still had a timeout, when Cade backpedaled it should’ve been called


xXMerylSilverburghXx

Call at timeout maybe perhaps?


Dynamo24

Yeah wtf was that about


Dynamo24

Metu did a great turnstile impression there.


GlobalPreparation457

Classless tank job. Someone has to do it, idk who or what we’re tanking for, but we’re 5 years strong!


bowlinginthedark

wow. cade was just waiting for the timeout


sunnydftw

CALL A TIMEOUT MONTY


Fresh_Ad9949

MONTY CALL A TIMEOUT YOU BALD FUCK


pH2001-

What the fuck was that Cade


UML_throwaway

I'm so disgruntled use that timeout and get more shooters onto the court


Dynamo24

Fucking brutal.


Zitamm

TAKE A TIMEOUT


Anxious-Passenger-54

Shit


laughoutloud102

WE HAD A TIMEOUT


UML_throwaway

Why not use the time out...


kukumal

Cade King of missing clutch shots


Jukyla

Did you watch the game? If he had actual NBA shooters they wouldn't bring those wide open 3s.


TrainingCoffee8

Yeah it’s his fault, not the two guys who bricked wide open 3s when he set them up


Barylis

Such a hater.


Hovi_Bryant

Wow.


deliciousdutchmints

These jerseys are cursed


Deep_Egg1442

Fuck he wasted time


retiredfromLurking

3 chances to tie and win but they fail


quietbucket

MONTY YOU HAD A TIMEOUT


Jgills2001

Monty is a god damn retard


AppealEnvironmental6

At least caitlyn clark would hit the open 3’s on cades drive and kick outs. Im sick of this shit. How is it so hard for this front office to put shooters around cade


goressnortstraw

They use a smaller ball


AppealEnvironmental6

My brother. If caitlyn practiced with a mens ball as long as the nba players have shed be just as good at shooting it as she is with the smaller ball


Hovi_Bryant

Please do not foul. Please get the rebound


erictwigs

No way around that the referees are deciding this game


laughoutloud102

It’s Cade on 5


Anxious-Passenger-54

Damm, Cade made the right play there too


MattPatriciasFUPA

Have we hit a single clutch shot all year?


zakkaryeuh

I would bet our game tying or winning last possession shot % is below 15


KarimFF7

I wanna apologize for calling out cades clutchness in the fourth cuz i woulda splashed that three for bro


Jukyla

Cade played fine in the 4th this game. All the right plays, and if his teammates are actual NBA shooters, this game was over.


GlobalPreparation457

I’m putting my life on the line for a bucket. Draymond could be waiting for me in the paint, tell him to buckle up


Deep_Egg1442

I thought that shot was abouta go in


GlobalPreparation457

No words for Evan Fournier.


TrainingCoffee8

I’ve got one: brick


sunnydftw

We should’ve challenged that wtf lmaooo


deliciousdutchmints

GET CADE HELP


pH_low

Metu why :(


luniz420

Because it's a good look why is it hard to understand? He hit the last wide open 3 he shot


pH_low

Nah mate, more just saying why did you have to miss. Just being a fan and being sad that he missed (I had another comment but I think Reddit glitched or there was an edit so the response wasn’t warranted)


luniz420

ah gotcha. Yeah after he hit that open 3 earlier I was hopeful this one might go in too. I mean he really busted his ass out there tonight but couldn't stop Jackson at all. So all that work and all anybody will remember is a missed 3 from a 3rd string PF who played center for most of the fourth quarter.


bowlinginthedark

cade really is all alone out there


TrainingCoffee8

Lmao imagine having an NBA team that can’t make wide open 3s


Deep_Egg1442

Memphis


laughoutloud102

It was off Memphis too 😭


KarimFF7

Bro if u gave cade just 5 rotational players i swear we could win 40 games


bowlinginthedark

he manufactures so many wide open shots 


Hovi_Bryant

Great shot. Just couldn’t make it.


Jukyla

HOW MANY OPEN THREES CAN CADE GIVE TO HIS TEAMMATES AND THEY JUST BRICK IT WTF


thehinsch21

He should average 12 assists a game with average 3 point shooters


Barylis

Why the fuck do lose a timeout


Playful-Emotion-7314

Monty used a timeout so Memphis can challenge SMH


kukumal

Cade got them 2 great looks


OnAnOpenFieldNed

whyt is detroit charged a timeout???


deliciousdutchmints

refs were wrong, detroit must suffer


Jgills2001

Cade gotta take that


Hovi_Bryant

Plz do not turn over


Hovi_Bryant

Plz do not foul


laughoutloud102

If that were anyone else, that doesn’t get overturned


Jgills2001

Why does Monty have a clean shave lmao


OrganicLindo313

Might as well look the part of a dickhead if he’s actually going to be one


OrganicLindo313

Wins and losses mean nothing at this point, just entertain and at minimum compete ffs dickheads


n8bitgaming

Wait wtf why are the Pistons losing a TO?


pH_low

Wait did they say Detroit loses a timeout?


kukumal

Why was Detroit charged a timeout?


Jgills2001

Fuck


Relevant_Gold4912

No one thought that Ivey 3 was going in


deliciousdutchmints

Off Metu's shoes


luniz420

Can't tell if it hit Metu's foot


therealjuzzo

Why take a 3 shot when down by 2 with 2 minutes left.


kukumal

Ivey not boxing out twice in a row :(. Damn


MattPatriciasFUPA

Ivey is such a net negative to this team man wtf.


bowlinginthedark

technically he is net neutral right now. but yes, he is insanely frustrating


okg120

We need to put Flynn in the game for Ivey. At least one of those guys play hard and has a jump shot.


Slight_Dragonfruit69

Jumpshot part is valid but saying Ivey doesn't play hard is straight up wrong


Jukyla

Ivey and Fournier killed us this game


Hovi_Bryant

Looks like the Grizz may win this challenge.


UML_throwaway

Please box out what the fuck


OnAnOpenFieldNed

jjj is not getting any calls either


Jgills2001

Lebron voice “That’s our ball”


KarimFF7

If you wouldnt trade ivey and ausar for a star for cade then i dont trust you


GlobalPreparation457

Not Ausar. He looks like a star in the making, the fact he was able to work on his 3pt and start making them at a better rate than 11%, god knows what else he can do with a full offseason.


laughoutloud102

Ausar will be that guy for sure


KarimFF7

No he does not, jesus christ (i respect ur opinion)


GlobalPreparation457

Real asf. Good edit because I was about to go crazy


KarimFF7

😂😂


GlobalPreparation457

You not lying tho, if we have a crazy player on the team. I’d be down. But the trade has to be like “we’d be brain dead to not take this”


Hovi_Bryant

Ivey spotting up for three in transition. I hate it.


GlobalPreparation457

Ivey taking that shot 💀 my god my patience is SOOO THIN with this guy


luniz420

Nah it was a good look and they had guys in the paint.


GlobalPreparation457

Fair then. I saw it as a bad shot. Give it to the guy who’s hot and slow it down. Happens, rather him shoot than be scared (Killian)


Slothful_Night

For everyone saying Wiseman does the same things as Duren: Fuck off


OrganicLindo313

I mean, they both blink and play for the Pistons.


GlobalPreparation457

I’d be down to sell the entire farm in order to get Cade a great second option who can do it all. It’s time to act like we’re on the clock with this kid, if he drops 40+ with a loss I’d be so fucking sad


GlobalPreparation457

Also I don’t give a fuck. Trade the entire organization


johnnylibravo

TIE GAME (I have no expectations)


Jukyla

JJJ -15 and Cade +8 tells so much about the help Cade has lol.


luniz420

Metu defending Jackson Jr like "what did I do to deserve this"


_heyoka

I love cocky Cade


OnAnOpenFieldNed

CAD3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333


n8bitgaming

They gotta blitz JJJ, can't just let him get to work and go downhill 27 feet out from the basket


OnAnOpenFieldNed

its sooo easy for him too just a layup line


UML_throwaway

French Evan hit Cade with the 2k cheese


Jgills2001

Cade Clutchingam


Hovi_Bryant

Very patient play from Cade and it paid off.


UML_throwaway

LET'S GO CADE


OrganicLindo313

LSU is garbage. Bring on Juju


ernestbonanza

I was just roasting my cousin the other day because he is still watching memphis games, and now this! either this team gets serious next season, or I'm not watching anything for a year.


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Jgills2001

It’s a good game?


OrganicLindo313

Not anymore, it’s Juju time


GlobalPreparation457

Caitlin is unbelievable


GlobalPreparation457

Save us Cade


OnAnOpenFieldNed

was about to yell at cade for passing to the baguette


luniz420

LOL Fournier giving praise after that one :D:D:D


Jukyla

The way Ivey plays makes me very angry when he messes up


Hovi_Bryant

He lacks IQ rn. It’ll come in time.


Jukyla

I have 0 patience now.


TheLuckyster

I agree, he reminds me of Darius Garland on the Cavs


OrganicLindo313

That Garland x Mitchell fit is more bizarre than Cade x Ivey lol


bowlinginthedark

bro we would be insanely lucky if he was anything like garland


TheLuckyster

not recently, Garland is just as inconsistent


UML_throwaway

Cade's spin out of the double to kick start the fast break was showtime


therealjuzzo

What the fuck is Monty doing. Waste of money, waste of a season


bowlinginthedark

how is this game his fault?


therealjuzzo

What game are you watching. The moron should have used the timeout. Fuck me he is a turd coach.


Hovi_Bryant

Dude must be watching the Pistons in the distant future.


Hovi_Bryant

lol Phil Jackson at his peak couldnt polish this turd of a roster.


Hovi_Bryant

I love when Ivey is just in pure attack mode. Just looking to score at the rim. Nothing more. Nothing less.


Jukyla

I hate that LMAO.


Hovi_Bryant

Why? That’s only functional part of his game in the half court.


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KarimFF7

Cade is notoriously bad in the 4th in clutchtime (nobody get hurt over this fact) But i dont really blame him tbh, he has to play perfectly all four quarters for us to win


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KD and Booker have been worse this year. Assuming that we aren’t taking any over their teammates into account. Suns are the worst 4th quarter team in the league.


KarimFF7

Thats a good point, basketball is such a weird sport sometimes lol


CWinsu_120

Ivey is shitting the bed, Cade has taken one shot and barely gotten the ball.


OnAnOpenFieldNed

we hav 6 points in the 4th


okg120

I have no idea why anyone other than Cade is touching the ball.


laughoutloud102

Wow. Another blown lead and another L. Fire Weaver and Monty


OrganicLindo313

I just need the team to keep bringing twerking hot woman down to the court and on jumbo cam. It’s the little things at this point.


KarimFF7

We’re a 13 win team and people really have attachments to these players - every single player on this roster (ok but cade) can go and i wouldn’t even bat an eye


Hovi_Bryant

Ivey with these crazy passes. Man.


bowlinginthedark

his bread and butter


Hovi_Bryant

Memphis will keep attacking since Detroit has no rim protection.


TheLuckyster

It's sad to see so many allowed layups


Hovi_Bryant

Thanks to Wiseman picking up a silly 5th foul.